the right to bear arms

[hover11]

FUL PROCESS TO BE DONE ONLINE

ACTING Police Commissioner Junior Benjamin says there has been a noticeable post-election increase in Firearm User Licence (FUL) applications and the police service is embracing technology to deal with the expected continuous rise.

The UNC, while in opposition, promised to make legal gun ownership easier if it won the election.


https://www.facebook.com/share/15LZANAiRF/

[redmanjp]

FUL PROCESS TO BE DONE ONLINE

ACTING Police Commissioner Junior Benjamin says there has been a noticeable post-election increase in Firearm User Licence (FUL) applications and the police service is embracing technology to deal with the expected continuous rise.

The UNC, while in opposition, promised to make legal gun ownership easier if it won the election.


https://www.facebook.com/share/15LZANAiRF/

by the way, the move to online was not triggered by UNC winning or the surge in applications, it was in the works before

[MaxPower]

“System Down”

[pugboy]

submitting is one thing
what system they putting for follow up years down the road whilst yuh seeing ppl get just a few months after applying?

[MaxPower]

submitting is one thing
what system they putting for follow up years down the road whilst yuh seeing ppl get just a few months after applying?

The Govt has announced to revamp the process and also mentioned there will/maybe some additional requirements.

These dotish empty d clip mentality Trinis do not even know what is the new process and additions and still gone to apply to flood out the system again? More so, why did Kyamila even tell them to apply with no new system.

T&T eh ready to do this online. You gonna have every tom/dick/harry who have criminal records, not even of age, dont meet the requirements, cant even fill out a form properly or upload a document in pdf who just gonna keep back the process even more.

Put everything on pause, reset everything if you must, set up the new system and then invite applicants. Have a proper appointment system where applicants come in with their documents and be interviewed in person and once all the criteria is met…then load it up in the system for another department to action in a timely manner.

pug yuh right….the way they start already…men gonna get through in a week while others waiting for years….yuh don know what going on. I tell allyuh before men hungry for long now and money hadda make back and they will structure the system accordingly.

[alfa]

That eliminates this dotish trip to Caroni just to get a form.
But yeah everyone waiting to hear what they doing about the backlog and how fast new applications will be processed

[redmanjp]

That eliminates this dotish trip to Caroni just to get a form.
But yeah everyone waiting to hear what they doing about the backlog and how fast new applications will be processed

we need divisional units, cyah be 1 unit for d whole country - at least to take care of the backlog and the surge in applications

[pugboy]

i don’t see that happening at least for divisional
will have plenty corruption possible that way

we can be sure them cops waiting to see what the new “systems” will be put in place and how they can work around it

That eliminates this dotish trip to Caroni just to get a form.
But yeah everyone waiting to hear what they doing about the backlog and how fast new applications will be processed

we nee\d divisional units, cyah be 1 unit for d whole country - at least to take care of the backlog and the surge in applications

[MaxPower]

Listen we need efficiency.

We need a system just as when you applying for a US Visa.

Fill out your forms and lies online, print and walk with all documents and lies for the interview.

Right there and then you should be told whether you qualify or not.

[hover11]

Listen we need efficiency.

We need a system just as when you applying for a US Visa.

Fill out your forms and lies online, print and walk with all documents and lies for the interview.

Right there and then you should be told whether you qualify or not.

Check us back next 50 years for that. We still using paper based files and forms in ministries and state organizations. You know the same thing we been using since 1962(independence )

[redmanjp]

i don’t see that happening at least for divisional
will have plenty corruption possible that way

we can be sure them cops waiting to see what the new “systems” will be put in place and how they can work around it

That eliminates this dotish trip to Caroni just to get a form.
But yeah everyone waiting to hear what they doing about the backlog and how fast new applications will be processed

we nee\d divisional units, cyah be 1 unit for d whole country - at least to take care of the backlog and the surge in applications

less likely with a digital system- plenty auditing can happen - it logs who accessed what file and who edit , delete it, from what IP, etc. customer should ideally also be able to track the process. that's why some ppl at licensing objected to digitalization - cuz it removes corruption or at least tracks what is happening

with a database there is no misplacing of files or putting somebody file at d top because u got 'processing fees'

[pugboy]

tracking is definitely needed along the way
but it still ends up in finality at the desk of a human to make final “approval”

unlike a drivers license where you physically perform the test in public

during the height of the gg feeding frenzy
ppl were getting responses from ful dept within a month or two that their applications were approved and “awaiting signature”
which of course was simply a message to let you know now is the time to get your friend gun dealer involved

[MaxPower]

The majority of Trinis are too lawless and irresponsible.

Too many Trinis with FULs is a problem, they like to jackass everything.

We should be focusing on improving the TTPS.

[i_code_and_stuff]

The majority of Trinis are too lawless and irresponsible.

Too many Trinis with FULs is a problem, they like to jackass everything.

We should be focusing on improving the TTPS.

it's easy to say "improve the ttps", when no one seems to have any feasible idea of how to do so. most arguments like "root out corruption" or "increase bar for entry" falls flat when faced with the reality of the situation.

and most importantly, the police can only act once a crime has been committed. in the case of a home invasion or robbery, it is already too late for that.

the only answer to get a hand back on the wheel within the next few years is for the citizens to help with the task of eradication. the jackassery we can deal with when the time comes

[hover11]

The majority of Trinis are too lawless and irresponsible.

Too many Trinis with FULs is a problem, they like to jackass everything.

We should be focusing on improving the TTPS.

Too many trinis with FUL is a problem , too many trinis without FULs is a problem...cant win

[i_code_and_stuff]

The majority of Trinis are too lawless and irresponsible.

Too many Trinis with FULs is a problem, they like to jackass everything.

We should be focusing on improving the TTPS.

Too many trinis with FUL is a problem , too many trinis without FULs is a problem...cant win

for once, you making sense.

people have to get rid of this idea that we will find some perfect solution that has no downsides. those people need to quit being so idealistic and accept that the status quo cannot be allowed to continue. we have to try something else (edit: something else drastic enough to make a swing in favor of the average citizen). will that something else be worse than our current situation? no one can predict that, but we have to be rtarded to sit here and do nothing

[pugboy]

heinz wish was that nobody except bandits have firearms

The majority of Trinis are too lawless and irresponsible.

Too many Trinis with FULs is a problem, they like to jackass everything.

We should be focusing on improving the TTPS.

Too many trinis with FUL is a problem , too many trinis without FULs is a problem...cant win

for once, you making sense.

people have to get rid of this idea that we will find some perfect solution that has no downsides. those people need to quit being so idealistic and accept that the status quo cannot be allowed to continue. we have to try something else (edit: something else drastic enough to make a swing in favor of the average citizen). will that something else be worse than our current situation? no one can predict that, but we have to be rtarded to sit here and do nothing

[88sins]

heinz wish was that nobody except bandits have firearms

criminals and idiots tend to support their own, and he's blessed with the fortune of being both simultaneously.
I'll give him one thing tho
His incompetence is consistent

[pugboy]

the correct term was he was competently incompetent

heinz wish was that nobody except bandits have firearms

criminals and idiots tend to support their own, and he's blessed with the fortune of being both simultaneously.
I'll give him one thing tho
His incompetence is consistent

[alfa]

So how this working with kamla plans to give more firearms to citizens?

[pugboy]

it ain’t
she may have to start interfering with the existing process like how heinz and rowlee were except in the opposite direction
until they pass legislation to overhaul the whole
process

So how this working with kamla plans to give more firearms to citizens?

[redmanjp]

4 years jail for protecting family who suffered multiple home invasions including 1 armed robbery

https://newsday.co.tt/2025/05/28/gasparillo-businessman-gets-four-years-for-illegal-gun-to-protect-family/

better judged by 12 than carried by 6?

[pugboy]

steups judge say she was a victim of robbery
them have taxpayer provided security wscort

[redmanjp]

and with this conviction he eh getting no FUL when he come out

[mero]

Yea, but why you being seen with the firearm for ppl to call police on you? Now you inside and can't do one fk

Same thing I saying, soon as men get gun, dey brandishing the thing all over the place.

[hover11]

When i tell you the law is an ass....

4 years jail for protecting family who suffered multiple home invasions including 1 armed robbery

https://newsday.co.tt/2025/05/28/gasparillo-businessman-gets-four-years-for-illegal-gun-to-protect-family/

better judged by 12 than carried by 6?

[MaxPower]

Yea, but why you being seen with the firearm for ppl to call police on you? Now you inside and can't do one fk

Same thing I saying, soon as men get gun, dey brandishing the thing all over the place.

X3000.

Too many Trinis should not have easy access to legal firearms.

We should be focusing on proper policing. More mobile police stations in hotspot areas with direct communication with residents and panic buttons, more vehicles patrolling, more equipment, more training, more drones, more surveillance.

[redmanjp]

that ain't happening. besides, even in 1st world USA, the police not faster than a speeding bullet. yes, we need only responsible law abiding citizens to have legal firearms.

as for brandishing- if there were ppl around wanting to pounce on him and rob him or somebody else, what he supposed to do? the article says they get rob/thief several times including once at gunpoint.

what would a FUL holder do? not show their firearm as a warning? he should have applied for a FUL yes, but maybe he did and was waiting years.

[pugboy]

4years seems long
i think the laventille youths does get much less
usually a fine

[MaxPower]

what would a FUL holder do?

Light dem up
Load up d matic
Empty d clip
Brandishing in public/social media
Firearm hanging on a tree in Caura/Beach/Fete
Reckless discharge in public
Suicide
Domestic violence/murder
Firearm printing through clothes(ranking ting)
Firearm in school bags
Lack of consistent training
Poor situational awareness
Road rage
Increase in theft
Etc

T&T’s culture and FUL cannot mix.