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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby mero » May 11th, 2025, 8:03 am

alfa wrote:
mero wrote:And you cyah wear yuh gyal jeans and the 2 size too small Hollister tee again.

Glock 43x and a slim line IWB holster go fix that.
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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby mero » May 11th, 2025, 8:15 am

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mero wrote:Guns in the hands of cowards and already paranoid men who does want to cross the road when they see a creole walking on the same side is a recipe for disaster waiting to happen..

FUL screening should consist of social media posts and heavy psychometric and mental evaluations cuz like half a allyuh who want gun not right in allyuh head.


X3000.

Brandishing like that for any and everything.

The FUL requirements are way too easy to fulfill and “law abiding” and “responsibility” is difficult to really determine.

I have said it before….the insecure small coco man that sending death threats to he woman/hornerman, the village drunk that beating the wife/children, the road rage ignoranters, the questionable social media posters…….they can all be easily shown as law abiding on paper.
Almost every new recipient i see who acquired a firearm suddenly became obsessed with it till it become their personality and identity, from business man to bad boy. That power is not for everybody. Thay is a serious burden and responsibility to carry.

Suddenly men want men test them and trying to put themselves in unnecessary situations to pull it or talking talk where they could use it, as if it not gonna be the beginning of a new set of problems they not ready for.

Man washing wares with gun on dey waist. Men checking in on d gun every 15 minutes, man taking selfie, men showing everybody it. Madness

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby 88sins » May 11th, 2025, 8:31 am

mero wrote:Guns in the hands of cowards and already paranoid men who does want to cross the road when they see a creole walking on the same side is a recipe for disaster waiting to happen..

FUL screening should consist of social media posts and heavy psychometric and mental evaluations cuz like half a allyuh who want gun not right in allyuh head.


One man's cowardice and paranoia in another man's preference to avoid conflict and hyper-vigilance/situational awareness. But everybody entitled to their opinion, no matter how erroneous or biased that opinion may be.


Psychological examination was always a requirement son, and I go bring you up to speed a lil bit.
A boi can get and pass all the psychometric testing and evaluation you can possibly ask for today, submit it with his application, and go bat-shit crazy the following week and still eventually get his FUL, buy a strap, and nobody outside of someone who knows everything about him would have any idea that a certified lunatic is armed and amidst the public.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby sMASH » May 11th, 2025, 9:06 am

88sins wrote:
mero wrote:Guns in the hands of cowards and already paranoid men who does want to cross the road when they see a creole walking on the same side is a recipe for disaster waiting to happen..

FUL screening should consist of social media posts and heavy psychometric and mental evaluations cuz like half a allyuh who want gun not right in allyuh head.


One man's cowardice and paranoia in another man's preference to avoid conflict and hyper-vigilance/situational awareness. But everybody entitled to their opinion, no matter how erroneous or biased that opinion may be.


Psychological examination was always a requirement son, and I go bring you up to speed a lil bit.
A boi can get and pass all the psychometric testing and evaluation you can possibly ask for today, submit it with his application, and go bat-shit crazy the following week and still eventually get his FUL, buy a strap, and nobody outside of someone who knows everything about him would have any idea that a certified lunatic is armed and amidst the public.
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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby mero » May 11th, 2025, 9:16 am

Agreed sins, and its easy to make assumptions from a responsible ful holder, hunter/member of the protective services pov where carrying is like second nature.

But, this is the GENERAL PUBLIC we talking about here. Have 2nrs confidently saying 9mm have no recoil ffs. Trinis already violent, bad and short tempered, even non violent people violent and people who not bad bad and we were being encouraged by our now PM through her campaign, citing the same violent dancehall music we scorn to "knock it on dem" reload and "empty the clip"

Quite sure lots of clips will be emptied, is who gonna pick up

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby 16 cycles » May 11th, 2025, 9:17 am

mero wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
mero wrote:Guns in the hands of cowards and already paranoid men who does want to cross the road when they see a creole walking on the same side is a recipe for disaster waiting to happen..

FUL screening should consist of social media posts and heavy psychometric and mental evaluations cuz like half a allyuh who want gun not right in allyuh head.


X3000.

Brandishing like that for any and everything.

The FUL requirements are way too easy to fulfill and “law abiding” and “responsibility” is difficult to really determine.

I have said it before….the insecure small coco man that sending death threats to he woman/hornerman, the village drunk that beating the wife/children, the road rage ignoranters, the questionable social media posters…….they can all be easily shown as law abiding on paper.
Almost every new recipient i see who acquired a firearm suddenly became obsessed with it till it become their personality and identity, from business man to bad boy. That power is not for everybody. Thay is a serious burden and responsibility to carry.

Suddenly men want men test them and trying to put themselves in unnecessary situations to pull it or talking talk where they could use it, as if it not gonna be the beginning of a new set of problems they not ready for.

Man washing wares with gun on dey waist. Men checking in on d gun every 15 minutes, man taking selfie, men showing everybody it. Madness


Some long time recipients are the same....responsibility and wisdom not always determined by age.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby sMASH » May 11th, 2025, 9:53 am

mero wrote:Agreed sins, and its easy to make assumptions from a responsible ful holder, hunter/member of the protective services pov where carrying is like second nature.

But, this is the GENERAL PUBLIC we talking about here. Have 2nrs confidently saying 9mm have no recoil ffs. Trinis already violent, bad and short tempered, even non violent people violent and people who not bad bad and we were being encouraged by our now PM through her campaign, citing the same violent dancehall music we scorn to "knock it on dem" reload and "empty the clip"

Quite sure lots of clips will be emptied, is who gonna pick up
Y are u so adamant about trespass ?

The stand ur ground legislation does it exist if ur not on other people property

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby pugboy » May 11th, 2025, 9:57 am

haha
and men only cleaning clearing and racking

mero wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
mero wrote:Guns in the hands of cowards and already paranoid men who does want to cross the road when they see a creole walking on the same side is a recipe for disaster waiting to happen..

FUL screening should consist of social media posts and heavy psychometric and mental evaluations cuz like half a allyuh who want gun not right in allyuh head.


X3000.

Brandishing like that for any and everything.

The FUL requirements are way too easy to fulfill and “law abiding” and “responsibility” is difficult to really determine.

I have said it before….the insecure small coco man that sending death threats to he woman/hornerman, the village drunk that beating the wife/children, the road rage ignoranters, the questionable social media posters…….they can all be easily shown as law abiding on paper.
Almost every new recipient i see who acquired a firearm suddenly became obsessed with it till it become their personality and identity, from business man to bad boy. That power is not for everybody. Thay is a serious burden and responsibility to carry.

Suddenly men want men test them and trying to put themselves in unnecessary situations to pull it or talking talk where they could use it, as if it not gonna be the beginning of a new set of problems they not ready for.

Man washing wares with gun on dey waist. Men checking in on d gun every 15 minutes, man taking selfie, men showing everybody it. Madness

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby alfa » May 11th, 2025, 10:10 am

Tbh washing wares with gun on your waist seems extreme but these guys who applied for personal protection weapon would know the reason why. Recently I did a firearms course and a classmate told me even when he's watching tv and playing with the dog his pistol is within arms reach. This is an older big belly dude who has his decades now, not the metro gym rat type who now get ful and looking to flams.

A former special forces guy once told me even when he on the beach in his swim trunks he has his piece 'discreetly concealed' and just cleans and lubes the gun and ammo after. It's s Glock so no rust. I didn't bother to ask where exactly he conceales it and no it wasn't no funny man discussion but genuine carry mindset he was trying to impart

Hopefully neither of those situations ever reaches me but those guys know why they carry the way they do. Trinidad ain't for the light hearted

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby pugboy » May 11th, 2025, 10:19 am

carrying a gun is a real sensitive emotional topic for many persons
on a cycling forum i am on there is a long continuous emotional debate on it

that thread is decades old and more active than a covid thread ever was

imagine wearing cycling lycra clothing and carrying a gun with you

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby mero » May 11th, 2025, 10:30 am

sMASH wrote:
mero wrote:Agreed sins, and its easy to make assumptions from a responsible ful holder, hunter/member of the protective services pov where carrying is like second nature.

But, this is the GENERAL PUBLIC we talking about here. Have 2nrs confidently saying 9mm have no recoil ffs. Trinis already violent, bad and short tempered, even non violent people violent and people who not bad bad and we were being encouraged by our now PM through her campaign, citing the same violent dancehall music we scorn to "knock it on dem" reload and "empty the clip"

Quite sure lots of clips will be emptied, is who gonna pick up
Y are u so adamant about trespass ?

The stand ur ground legislation does it exist if ur not on other people property


Why are you adamant on trying to get any excuse to shoot or kill someone? U self say u more than willing to kill a youthman for retrieving a cricket ball in your yard. That is not standing your ground saddis.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby j.o.e » May 11th, 2025, 10:33 am

Everyone’s situation, lifestyle and risks different. With a FUL my focus is on home protection but can’t knock anyone who wants to carry 100% of the time. I would really pick and choose when I carry. A gun is a big responsibility and sometimes a hassle.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby sMASH » May 11th, 2025, 10:44 am

mero wrote:
sMASH wrote:
mero wrote:Agreed sins, and its easy to make assumptions from a responsible ful holder, hunter/member of the protective services pov where carrying is like second nature.

But, this is the GENERAL PUBLIC we talking about here. Have 2nrs confidently saying 9mm have no recoil ffs. Trinis already violent, bad and short tempered, even non violent people violent and people who not bad bad and we were being encouraged by our now PM through her campaign, citing the same violent dancehall music we scorn to "knock it on dem" reload and "empty the clip"

Quite sure lots of clips will be emptied, is who gonna pick up
Y are u so adamant about trespass ?

The stand ur ground legislation does it exist if ur not on other people property


Why are you adamant on trying to get any excuse to shoot or kill someone? U self say u more than willing to kill a youthman for retrieving a cricket ball in your yard. That is not standing your ground saddis.
Ttps : I feared for my life and exercised my use of force policy.
Everyone will be safe bro. The country will be safer .

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby 88sins » May 11th, 2025, 10:54 am

mero wrote:Agreed sins, and its easy to make assumptions from a responsible ful holder, hunter/member of the protective services pov where carrying is like second nature.

But, this is the GENERAL PUBLIC we talking about here. Have 2nrs confidently saying 9mm have no recoil ffs. Trinis already violent, bad and short tempered, even non violent people violent and people who not bad bad and we were being encouraged by our now PM through her campaign, citing the same violent dancehall music we scorn to "knock it on dem" reload and "empty the clip"

Quite sure lots of clips will be emptied, is who gonna pick up


they can correctly say that, it's easy to parrot what you read on the internet. give them a few over-pressured P++ and hear them change their tune.

In the end, given all things to be considered, a boi who like to play he a hot head will soak that same hot head in ice water and put it in a freezer when they remember is not only dem carrying iron. Will there be shootings? Yes. Will some people die? Probably, with any luck mostly pest and imps. But t in short order it'll settle down quickly.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby mero » May 11th, 2025, 10:55 am

alfa wrote:Tbh washing wares with gun on your waist seems extreme but these guys who applied for personal protection weapon would know the reason why. Recently I did a firearms course and a classmate told me even when he's watching tv and playing with the dog his pistol is within arms reach. This is an older big belly dude who has his decades now, not the metro gym rat type who now get ful and looking to flams.

A former special forces guy once told me even when he on the beach in his swim trunks he has his piece 'discreetly concealed' and just cleans and lubes the gun and ammo after. It's s Glock so no rust. I didn't bother to ask where exactly he conceales it and no it wasn't no funny man discussion but genuine carry mindset he was trying to impart

Hopefully neither of those situations ever reaches me but those guys know why they carry the way they do. Trinidad ain't for the light hearted


Key words, special forces and seasoned FUL holder. But better than me. Can't imagine having to deal with that responsibility and just living my life normal. Better to have it and not need it than need it when u don't have it but I cool dey.

Sure yuh breden swimming in tiny mid thigh trunks too lmao

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby sMASH » May 11th, 2025, 11:02 am

mero wrote:
alfa wrote:Tbh washing wares with gun on your waist seems extreme but these guys who applied for personal protection weapon would know the reason why. Recently I did a firearms course and a classmate told me even when he's watching tv and playing with the dog his pistol is within arms reach. This is an older big belly dude who has his decades now, not the metro gym rat type who now get ful and looking to flams.

A former special forces guy once told me even when he on the beach in his swim trunks he has his piece 'discreetly concealed' and just cleans and lubes the gun and ammo after. It's s Glock so no rust. I didn't bother to ask where exactly he conceales it and no it wasn't no funny man discussion but genuine carry mindset he was trying to impart

Hopefully neither of those situations ever reaches me but those guys know why they carry the way they do. Trinidad ain't for the light hearted


Key words, special forces and seasoned FUL holder. But better than me. Can't imagine having to deal with that responsibility and just living my life normal. Better to have it and not need it than need it when u don't have it but I cool dey.

Sure yuh breden swimming in tiny mid thigh trunks too lmao
Honesty is good for the soul .
NOT EVERYBODY who apply going to get .

While allyuh trolling, it hsve people like time lapse who are easily rattled and push the propaganda hard, making things unnecessarily difficult

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby pugboy » May 11th, 2025, 11:38 am

makes sense

when bandits robbing you in public in 2s and 3s it really don’t make sense to engage and run high risk of everybody dead including yourself
and no doubt them bandits will adjust their robbing protocols to suit

j.o.e wrote:Everyone’s situation, lifestyle and risks different. With a FUL my focus is on home protection but can’t knock anyone who wants to carry 100% of the time. I would really pick and choose when I carry. A gun is a big responsibility and sometimes a hassle.

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Postby j.o.e » May 11th, 2025, 11:47 am

pugboy wrote:makes sense

when bandits robbing you in public in 2s and 3s it really don’t make sense to engage and run high risk of everybody dead including yourself
and no doubt them bandits will adjust their robbing protocols to suit

j.o.e wrote:Everyone’s situation, lifestyle and risks different. With a FUL my focus is on home protection but can’t knock anyone who wants to carry 100% of the time. I would really pick and choose when I carry. A gun is a big responsibility and sometimes a hassle.


Plus I don’t feel like I am at risk in public based on where I am and times of day. Don’t move flashy, don’t do cash transactions at banks, don’t drive a in demand car for thieves, not around any gambling etc
I more at risk of collateral damage and a gun wouldn’t help in that case.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby MaxPower » May 11th, 2025, 11:51 am

Mero,

What about the FUL holder who purposely walking around with the firearm printing through the clothes or the fake “stretch” where they raise their hands so their shirt could raise and ppl can see dey carrying

LOL

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Postby 16 cycles » May 11th, 2025, 11:54 am

some folks just want to know they have to tools to protect their home and family if it comes to that...one person jumping a wall to pick a zabocar is different from 5 persons in the night trying to break in your home.

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the right to bear arms

Postby MaxPower » May 11th, 2025, 12:13 pm

I agree with giving ALL citizens firearms for stand your ground laws and home defense only.

ONLY Effective air rifles would be best, but if it goes along the lines of shotguns and pistols….keep that at home and when you emptying d clip, make sure your property is secure so as to not spray the houses/occupants around.

Personal carry should not be overly approved….the general irresponsible population should not have firearms in public.

NO Firearms in:

Schools
Banks
Rivers
Beaches
Malls
Bars
Restaurants
Govt Offices
Groceries

Stay your ass at home and stand your ground and wait for the home invaders and mango pickers and leh gooooo.

Let us be reminded that the TTPS also has their job to do.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby 88sins » May 11th, 2025, 1:13 pm

Max, that's why I always say, shotguns for everyone who wants them.
It eh easy to hide a 12 gauge with an 18" barrel, even if it's a bullpup, and that's more than enough for home or business defense applications.
Additionally, unless you're are a hunter, it has no reason to leave your property other than for the purposes of going to the range for training and practice, or to the smithy for repairs or upgrades, or for disposal by sale or destruction.

I am all for arming the public that wants arms. but I'd prefer it be done in a way that lends itself in support of responsible ownership and usage.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby pugboy » May 11th, 2025, 1:21 pm

max that is called small t**** syndrome

MaxPower wrote:Mero,

What about the FUL holder who purposely walking around with the firearm printing through the clothes or the fake “stretch” where they raise their hands so their shirt could raise and ppl can see dey carrying

LOL

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby mero » May 11th, 2025, 5:05 pm

MaxPower wrote:Mero,

What about the FUL holder who purposely walking around with the firearm printing through the clothes or the fake “stretch” where they raise their hands so their shirt could raise and ppl can see dey carrying

LOL
Telling me. Worse yet when they head nice and trying to impress a lil smally or Spanish.

Same smally and Spanish who putting them in place to get rob.

Imagine when the General public, once they have a coc and fit fhe "requirements" get their hands on it. Real marrow flying

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby matix » May 11th, 2025, 6:33 pm

mero wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
mero wrote:Guns in the hands of cowards and already paranoid men who does want to cross the road when they see a creole walking on the same side is a recipe for disaster waiting to happen..

FUL screening should consist of social media posts and heavy psychometric and mental evaluations cuz like half a allyuh who want gun not right in allyuh head.


X3000.

Brandishing like that for any and everything.

The FUL requirements are way too easy to fulfill and “law abiding” and “responsibility” is difficult to really determine.

I have said it before….the insecure small coco man that sending death threats to he woman/hornerman, the village drunk that beating the wife/children, the road rage ignoranters, the questionable social media posters…….they can all be easily shown as law abiding on paper.
Almost every new recipient i see who acquired a firearm suddenly became obsessed with it till it become their personality and identity, from business man to bad boy. That power is not for everybody. Thay is a serious burden and responsibility to carry.

Suddenly men want men test them and trying to put themselves in unnecessary situations to pull it or talking talk where they could use it, as if it not gonna be the beginning of a new set of problems they not ready for.

Man washing wares with gun on dey waist. Men checking in on d gun every 15 minutes, man taking selfie, men showing everybody it. Madness



You’re clearly around some real life panty men

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby sMASH » May 11th, 2025, 8:17 pm

Let's say there are certain parts of the country where the crime rate is markedly lower , and FUL will try to extend that gratuity to other parts but by legal means.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby RBphoto » May 14th, 2025, 2:02 pm

So Tants say to apply for the FUL. can someone post the current procedure?. Also, the "reason" for application, can it be for "Protection of self and property, hunting and professional marksmanship?" Would that get my application thrown out?

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby alfa » May 14th, 2025, 2:09 pm

RBphoto wrote:So Tants say to apply for the FUL. can someone post the current procedure?. Also, the "reason" for application, can it be for "Protection of self and property, hunting and professional marksmanship?" Would that get my application thrown out?

My advice is to wait until they roll out whatever new legislation they coming with in case they change the whole application procedure.
As it stands get a form # 1 and 16 from govt printery in caroni and together with a cert of character drop into firearms dept corner or park and Richmond street pos.
You can apply for any of the above reasons but as it stands you must have proof to justify it, eg letter from sport shooting association, land deed etc

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby pugboy » May 14th, 2025, 2:26 pm

the form info is pretty basic
it’s really when they come to interview you to see your situation
assuming not going thru the “fee” route


RBphoto wrote:So Tants say to apply for the FUL. can someone post the current procedure?. Also, the "reason" for application, can it be for "Protection of self and property, hunting and professional marksmanship?" Would that get my application thrown out?

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby MaxPower » May 15th, 2025, 1:23 am

Use allyuh head and have some patience.

They did say they are or may be changing some requirements.

Rushing to apply with no new system/procedure/guidelines in place is just causing unnecessary paperwork and a waste of manpower for those receiving the docs.

So what is it? Allyuh rush to apply and when they ask for more requirements, allyuh rush to get that? Make a guess as to how many docs will be all over the place and would never even reach the files.

An inefficient system will encourage processing fees eh.

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