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[X_Factor]

anyone changed their 4/8ft tubes to led yet?

[*KRONIK*]

anyone changed their 4/8ft tubes to led yet?

No

But i saw that electrical shops doing rel demos and pushing this as the way forward

[neexis]

never was a spade bit fan bc i find they cut kinda rough but if finish doesnt matter then no scene & its always clogging up so u have to stop 1\2 way & clean d bit or go from d other side , even with good irwin bits

recently got d porter cable 7 piece holesaw kit & by far d best 1 i used so far , cuts rather efficiently & doesnt burn d wood unless u drilling slow , u need a good high speed drill with some torque for wood though ....

You ever tried those on MDF?

Tried a hole saw on a thick piece of MDF and it started smoking... was a cheapo black & decker

[bossmann]

anyone changed their 4/8ft tubes to led yet?

I did. Really bright. Only had one burn out on me so far after lightning hit a pole.

[Rovin]

never was a spade bit fan bc i find they cut kinda rough but if finish doesnt matter then no scene & its always clogging up so u have to stop 1\2 way & clean d bit or go from d other side , even with good irwin bits

recently got d porter cable 7 piece holesaw kit & by far d best 1 i used so far , cuts rather efficiently & doesnt burn d wood unless u drilling slow , u need a good high speed drill with some torque for wood though ....

You ever tried those on MDF?

Tried a hole saw on a thick piece of MDF and it started smoking... was a cheapo black & decker

d poreter cable holesaw ? - yes on 1\2 & 3\4 mdf , worked well

cheap holesaws is d worse , some so dull & cheaply designed that it cud barely cut 1 hole good ....

[Chimera]

anyone changed their 4/8ft tubes to led yet?

No

But i saw that electrical shops doing rel demos and pushing this as the way forward

yes i have done a lot at my office

they REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL bright

i had 4 , 4 feet assemblies before

i took down 2 and put leds in the remaining 2 assemblies

and much more light than the 4 it had before

lol i blow 2 bulbs when i was initially trying to rewire it though

[Chimera]

i cant find the 8 feet to buy anywhere though

[pugboy]

the dewalt metal cutting hole saws are very good, have a couple 2 1/2, 3"
the ones you get in them door install kits are not so good
almost as bad as the ones in a reverse sensor kit

[bossmann]

i cant find the 8 feet to buy anywhere though

Tried infinity electrical in couva?

[pugboy]

them still in business after pp lorse elections ?

[Chimera]

i cant find the 8 feet to buy anywhere though

Tried infinity electrical in couva?

i went to the one in mcbean
thats where i always buy my 4 feet
they say they never get the 8 feet, the one in mcbean and the one in couva are the same company i think

[Ted_v2]

Boodoos electrical has too. 55ish for a 4 ft bulb.

[X_Factor]

a 4ft led tube up here goes for $110 in modern

[adnj]

anyone changed their 4/8ft tubes to led yet?

You'll have to remove the starter and short circuit the ballast for an LED tube to work. It's was easy to do on my old shop lights.

The energy used for the LED is less but you won't notice a big difference. What you will notice is longer life, no humming from the LED and instant on. You'll also notice that one or diodes that fail before the others and create a dark spot.

If you've blown a starter or your ballast is bad changing to LED makes sense. Warmer colors and higher lumens will cost you more just like in florescent tubes.

[silent_riot]

There's a power seller selling the 4ft and 8ft in the Misc section.

[Chimera]

There is a major difference in brightness

[X_Factor]

anyone changed their 4/8ft tubes to led yet?

You'll have to remove the starter and short circuit the ballast for an LED tube to work. It's was easy to do on my old shop lights.

The energy used for the LED is less but you won't notice a big difference. What you will notice is longer life, no humming from the LED and instant on. You'll also notice that one or diodes that fail before the others and create a dark spot.

If you've blown a starter or your ballast is bad changing to LED makes sense. Warmer colors and higher lumens will cost you more just like in florescent tubes.

will change out 2 panels and see if it makes sense

will be any big difference on energy saving ?
160w (4 tubes) for 12hrs(over night) vs 36w for the same 12hrs

[Dave-ve]

Does anyone know where I can get a bead roller for sheet metal locally?

[adnj]

There is a major difference in brightness

You're right. Perceived brightness is a function of both color rendering and lumens. The same number of lumens at a higher color temperature will appear "brighter" to many people BUT you will lose the ability to see colors in the red to yellow spectrum.

You really can't compare wattage anymore. Some of the LEDs use the same amount of power but don't produce the same amount of light.

[NappyheadRR]

Hilti AVR TE 905 jackhammer. 7000neg. Inbox me for details.

[adnj]

will change out 2 panels and see if it makes sense

will be any big difference on energy saving ?
160w (4 tubes) for 12hrs(over night) vs 36w for the same 12hrs

You'll save about 45 kwh per month. I'm guessing TT$15 to TT$16 per month.

[X_Factor]

thats actually quite a decent amt of savings
within 4mths they pay back for themselves ( getting them at 55 each) and thats just changing 4 tubes

[X_Factor]

youtube vids seem pretty simple to wire for led.....
I am getting frosted 4ft tubes...is that good or are there better?

[Chimera]

who sells shopvac filters locally?

i didnt know there were different filters or that you had to remove the filter if using it for wet applications

lol need a new cartridge filter

[adnj]

will change out 2 panels and see if it makes sense

will be any big difference on energy saving ?
160w (4 tubes) for 12hrs(over night) vs 36w for the same 12hrs

You'll save about 45 kwh per month. I'm guessing TT$15 to TT$16 per month.

thats actually quite a decent amt of savings
within 4mths they pay back for themselves ( getting them at 55 each) and thats just changing 4 tubes

Those savings are for the numbers that were given by the OP. LED T8 lighting is about 30% more efficient than fluorescent lighting.

If the tubes are swapped with tubes that have the same lumens (4 tubes at 40 watt equivalence, each), you will save about $6 per month (depending on your TTEC rate) for all four tubes. You'll only save about $1.50/month/tube. It will take about three years for the tube to pay for itself.

If you have a tube that is already blown, it's a no-brainer.

[pugboy]

U normally don't use the pleated filter with water on a shopvac
There are versions of the filter which are meant to be washed and reuseable

[Chimera]

yeah i read that after lol

[Chimera]

Gonna chaos bhags today

[Ted_v2]

I need a vice to buy, where's reasonable?

[Chimera]

Depends. Smoking,drinking,gambling,hoes? Could get all in one place most of the time. Which vice yuh want?