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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby 88sins » March 23rd, 2016, 8:04 pm

damn near impossible to reach the break even point when politicians keep coming up with new & improved methods of wasting taxpayer dollars on unnecessary projects designed to line certain peoples pockets bruh

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby boosted_wrx » March 23rd, 2016, 8:20 pm

So what do you all propose we do ? Seeing we have a government calling the wrong shots and crashing nearly everyone's business ...... We gonna stick around for the train that will last for 2 weeks or make some drastic calls ?

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby Redman » March 23rd, 2016, 10:13 pm

TriniAutoMart wrote:
88sins wrote:fed up of high fuel costs, but still need to drive to do your business?
Import a hybrid or fully electric vehicle & install a couple solar panels on it.

What's the laws regarding this?


Tesla is waiting to come in.

Just the license office and customs have been blocking it for whatever reason.

I was told that even the Min of Finance is confused as to why they preventing it.

So the law?
I dunno.

The reality?
That solar powered and electrical vehicles have been sourced and are awaiting regulatory approval.
Close to a year now.

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby BRZ » March 23rd, 2016, 10:32 pm

All of a sudden Rasc gone quiet, well?? What do you have to say on behalf of your beloved and cherished party? Defend their incompetence nah.

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby kjaglal76v2 » March 23rd, 2016, 11:24 pm

Redman wrote:
TriniAutoMart wrote:
88sins wrote:fed up of high fuel costs, but still need to drive to do your business?
Import a hybrid or fully electric vehicle & install a couple solar panels on it.

What's the laws regarding this?


Tesla is waiting to come in.

Just the license office and customs have been blocking it for whatever reason.

I was told that even the Min of Finance is confused as to why they preventing it.

So the law?
I dunno.

The reality?
That solar powered and electrical vehicles have been sourced and are awaiting regulatory approval.
Close to a year now.

whut?

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby matix » March 23rd, 2016, 11:33 pm

Red and ready for Marlene.

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » March 24th, 2016, 12:50 am

Redman wrote:
TriniAutoMart wrote:
88sins wrote:fed up of high fuel costs, but still need to drive to do your business?
Import a hybrid or fully electric vehicle & install a couple solar panels on it.

What's the laws regarding this?


Tesla is waiting to come in.

Just the license office and customs have been blocking it for whatever reason.

I was told that even the Min of Finance is confused as to why they preventing it.

So the law?
I dunno.

The reality?
That solar powered and electrical vehicles have been sourced and are awaiting regulatory approval.
Close to a year now.
Tesla loses US$4000 on every unit sold in the US, you really think they wanna set up here?
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/10/tesla-bu ... -sold.html


A Tesla Model S sells for US$76,000. And a price hike is expected
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/03/23/tesl ... ed-for-us/

what will the price of it be in T&T after shipping, duty and vat?
$760,000?

They going to setup a dealership, tool that dealership for service, setup charging points (Superchargers) around T&T etc to sell maybe 20 units a year?

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby wagonrunner » March 24th, 2016, 1:20 am

removal of the subsidy will recover the costs of product. ok.
but why are we not hearing them tackling this on the other end by lowering the cost of the product?
If reductions are made in the areas in the images below, won't the subsidy be lessened as well?

when the oil prices rises (especially to the high levels they were), what would be the price of fuel with the subsidy removed?

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby Redman » March 24th, 2016, 2:43 am

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Redman wrote:
TriniAutoMart wrote:
88sins wrote:fed up of high fuel costs, but still need to drive to do your business?
Import a hybrid or fully electric vehicle & install a couple solar panels on it.

What's the laws regarding this?


Tesla is waiting to come in.

Just the license office and customs have been blocking it for whatever reason.

I was told that even the Min of Finance is confused as to why they preventing it.

So the law?
I dunno.

The reality?
That solar powered and electrical vehicles have been sourced and are awaiting regulatory approval.
Close to a year now.
Tesla loses US$4000 on every unit sold in the US, you really think they wanna set up here?
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/10/tesla-bu ... -sold.html


A Tesla Model S sells for US$76,000. And a price hike is expected
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/03/23/tesl ... ed-for-us/

what will the price of it be in T&T after shipping, duty and vat?
$760,000?

They going to setup a dealership, tool that dealership for service, setup charging points (Superchargers) around T&T etc to sell maybe 20 units a year?





Yep based on what was said.
I have no reason to doubt the guy.

How many of the vehicles we seeing on the road here in TnT come out the show room for more than that?

But we will see.

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby bluesclues » March 24th, 2016, 3:23 am

too late to save oil and gas now. these markets will plummet.

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby matthewmazda » March 24th, 2016, 4:18 am

doh worry we red and ready fellers.......

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » March 24th, 2016, 4:58 am

Even habit gone quiet yes. Not a man jack PNM talking now. It had like 10 people on this forum that used to abuse everyone who was a UNC. Not one of those 10 talking great is the PNM now.

What happen is nobody could handle the corruption under UNC it was at an all time high, many were upset at the blatant disrespect to the citizens that Kamla showed she proved she was just another Manning. So everybody wanted Rowley the man that go set thing straight, well he setting thing real straight.

The govt already said the purpose of removing the subsidy is to divert it to the Rapid Rail. I am not against a rail, I always supported it. But given the current situation when this subsidy is gone and taxi men start to jack up price remember on every 20 cent them fellas raising fare to $1 eh. And with no other alternative what do people do?

Under UNC they used to run the PTSC bus from Las Lomas to Curepe on mornings, now that shut down permanently. Try traveling with PTSC and you go see pressure. SO they building a RR that gonna take 10 to 20 years and nothing in place for the people in the mean time. People starting to realize it was better UNC remain there and thief and all ah we would ah live. The PNM is operating like a real republican party but problem is they are in a 3rd world country.

No wonder it have a million and one cars for sale these days with "owner leaving" on it. Who smart and could afford to bussing out asap. '

UNC was badly corrupt and they mismanage more than anyother government but under UNC you could ah live. PNM setting thing straight, correct. And people are now realizing what straight and correct really mean, the chaos eh start yet. A massive load of sh!t is slowly but surely creeping up onto that fan and when it hits everybody gonna be brown and ready.

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby zoom rader » March 24th, 2016, 5:33 am

BRZ wrote:All of a sudden Rasc gone quiet, well?? What do you have to say on behalf of your beloved and cherished party? Defend their incompetence nah.


Rasc does only comment when injun in a sentence

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby tr1ad » March 24th, 2016, 7:09 am

Speaking of which..... Where UML

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby Pablo660 » March 24th, 2016, 8:19 am

Well if they remove or don't remove the subsidy, I am going to convert to CNG.
Any advise on where is recommended to do so?

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby pete » March 24th, 2016, 8:28 am

Was bound to happen this first year of their term. Interesting they are actually going to do the things the country needs. Hopefully they will expand ptsc both in routes and volume so people will have an alternative.

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby speedmelter » March 24th, 2016, 8:38 am

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Even habit gone quiet yes. Not a man jack PNM talking now. It had like 10 people on this forum that used to abuse everyone who was a UNC. Not one of those 10 talking great is the PNM now.

What happen is nobody could handle the corruption under UNC it was at an all time high, many were upset at the blatant disrespect to the citizens that Kamla showed she proved she was just another Manning. So everybody wanted Rowley the man that go set thing straight, well he setting thing real straight.

The govt already said the purpose of removing the subsidy is to divert it to the Rapid Rail. I am not against a rail, I always supported it. But given the current situation when this subsidy is gone and taxi men start to jack up price remember on every 20 cent them fellas raising fare to $1 eh. And with no other alternative what do people do?

Under UNC they used to run the PTSC bus from Las Lomas to Curepe on mornings, now that shut down permanently. Try traveling with PTSC and you go see pressure. SO they building a RR that gonna take 10 to 20 years and nothing in place for the people in the mean time. People starting to realize it was better UNC remain there and thief and all ah we would ah live. The PNM is operating like a real republican party but problem is they are in a 3rd world country.

No wonder it have a million and one cars for sale these days with "owner leaving" on it. Who smart and could afford to bussing out asap. '

UNC was badly corrupt and they mismanage more than anyother government but under UNC you could ah live. PNM setting thing straight, correct. And people are now realizing what straight and correct really mean, the chaos eh start yet. A massive load of sh!t is slowly but surely creeping up onto that fan and when it hits everybody gonna be brown and ready.


you really feel that PNM isn't thieving as much? lol

all politicians are thieves

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby Dizzy28 » March 24th, 2016, 8:51 am

I have seen people lament that Maxis/public transport are inefficient in this thread. However for the past 4 months I have been working PoS having worked elsewhere in the country all my life. I dreaded the move to PoS. However since we have moved I have been traveling with Maxis on the PBR on most days. My average time to work from leaving home with maxis is 45 mins however on the odd days I drive its 1.5 hrs. On evenings it actually takes the same 45 mins and that includes the wait in City Gate and thing. (I live Tunapuna)

Basically public transport isn't as bad as its made out to be. Most of the Maxis are air conditioned, they are reliable and its much faster than driving.

And I have a fairly brand new Crossover doing 5,200kms at home so I'm not bound by public transport.

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » March 24th, 2016, 8:59 am

Dizzy28 wrote:I have seen people lament that Maxis/public transport are inefficient in this thread. However for the past 4 months I have been working PoS having worked elsewhere in the country all my life. I dreaded the move to PoS. However since we have moved I have been traveling with Maxis on the PBR on most days. My average time to work from leaving home with maxis is 45 mins however on the odd days I drive its 1.5 hrs. On evenings it actually takes the same 45 mins and that includes the wait in City Gate and thing. (I live Tunapuna)

Basically public transport isn't as bad as its made out to be. Most of the Maxis are air conditioned, they are reliable and its much faster than driving.

And I have a fairly brand new Crossover doing 5,200kms at home so I'm not bound by public transport.


Trinidad and Tobago is much larger than the east west corridor.

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby sMASH » March 24th, 2016, 9:02 am

There isn't much else to do. Buttt, putting us more in debt should be avoided, and other ways to get USD besides selling oil and gas should be the main concern.

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Postby sMASH » March 24th, 2016, 9:02 am

There isn't much else to do. Buttt, putting us more in debt should be avoided, and other ways to get USD besides selling oil and gas should be the main concern.

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby cherrypopper » March 24th, 2016, 9:06 am

sMASH wrote:There isn't much else to do. Buttt, putting us more in debt should be avoided, and other ways to get USD besides selling oil and gas should be the main concern.


Manufacturing and export should be priority. ..

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Postby sMASH » March 24th, 2016, 9:17 am

Problem is what can we manufacture that we can export...

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Postby BRZ » March 24th, 2016, 9:28 am

cherrypopper wrote:
sMASH wrote:There isn't much else to do. Buttt, putting us more in debt should be avoided, and other ways to get USD besides selling oil and gas should be the main concern.


Manufacturing and export should be priority. ..



APPARENTLY IMPORTED FOODs is the MOST important thing in Trinidad now :roll: :roll: .

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Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » March 24th, 2016, 9:38 am

BRZ what type of business do you run?

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby Dizzy28 » March 24th, 2016, 9:49 am

Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:I have seen people lament that Maxis/public transport are inefficient in this thread. However for the past 4 months I have been working PoS having worked elsewhere in the country all my life. I dreaded the move to PoS. However since we have moved I have been traveling with Maxis on the PBR on most days. My average time to work from leaving home with maxis is 45 mins however on the odd days I drive its 1.5 hrs. On evenings it actually takes the same 45 mins and that includes the wait in City Gate and thing. (I live Tunapuna)

Basically public transport isn't as bad as its made out to be. Most of the Maxis are air conditioned, they are reliable and its much faster than driving.

And I have a fairly brand new Crossover doing 5,200kms at home so I'm not bound by public transport.


Trinidad and Tobago is much larger than the east west corridor.


Its where 50% of the total population of Trinidad lives though lives though.

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » March 24th, 2016, 9:57 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:I have seen people lament that Maxis/public transport are inefficient in this thread. However for the past 4 months I have been working PoS having worked elsewhere in the country all my life. I dreaded the move to PoS. However since we have moved I have been traveling with Maxis on the PBR on most days. My average time to work from leaving home with maxis is 45 mins however on the odd days I drive its 1.5 hrs. On evenings it actually takes the same 45 mins and that includes the wait in City Gate and thing. (I live Tunapuna)

Basically public transport isn't as bad as its made out to be. Most of the Maxis are air conditioned, they are reliable and its much faster than driving.

And I have a fairly brand new Crossover doing 5,200kms at home so I'm not bound by public transport.


Trinidad and Tobago is much larger than the east west corridor.


Its where 50% of the total population of Trinidad lives though lives though.


Which leaves half of the populace facing poor public transport, if we take the view that it's good enough in the East West corridor. That's not anywhere near a good grade to then be raising fuel prices drastically.

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby DVSTT » March 24th, 2016, 10:10 am

88sins wrote:fed up of high fuel costs, but still need to drive to do your business?
Import a hybrid or fully electric vehicle & install a couple solar panels on it.


How would they tax something like a Tesla seeing as it has no displacement and they charge per cc for one of the registration costs.

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Postby pete » March 24th, 2016, 10:13 am

They calculate a cc equivalent based on the power of the electric motors.

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Re: Look Trouble Now: Gov't plans to remove gas subsidy

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » March 24th, 2016, 10:13 am

Redman wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Redman wrote:
TriniAutoMart wrote:
88sins wrote:fed up of high fuel costs, but still need to drive to do your business?
Import a hybrid or fully electric vehicle & install a couple solar panels on it.

What's the laws regarding this?


Tesla is waiting to come in.

Just the license office and customs have been blocking it for whatever reason.

I was told that even the Min of Finance is confused as to why they preventing it.

So the law?
I dunno.

The reality?
That solar powered and electrical vehicles have been sourced and are awaiting regulatory approval.
Close to a year now.
Tesla loses US$4000 on every unit sold in the US, you really think they wanna set up here?
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/10/tesla-bu ... -sold.html


A Tesla Model S sells for US$76,000. And a price hike is expected
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/03/23/tesl ... ed-for-us/

what will the price of it be in T&T after shipping, duty and vat?
$760,000?

They going to setup a dealership, tool that dealership for service, setup charging points (Superchargers) around T&T etc to sell maybe 20 units a year?





Yep based on what was said.
I have no reason to doubt the guy.

How many of the vehicles we seeing on the road here in TnT come out the show room for more than that?

But we will see.
but the point was high fuel costs. Why buy such an expensive vehicle as a solution?

Massy needs to start bringing the Leaf and other dealers start bringing hybrid and all electric vehicles at reasonable prices as a solution. Tesla is a luxury car.

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