The Official CS Lancer Thread!

[BrotherHood]

CS CVT is run by a belt. SPIII oil only. I think that other oil is for the CY Lancer.

[ron_28]

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=640480

[QG]

found this on Amazon

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works great!!!

Purchased same fan controller. Installed on Saturday. Works great thus far.

Mine working for a couple of months now, no problem either.



Anyone know where I can get an original or after market radiator to buy, new thing I'm looking for. I wanna swap out a rebuilt one that's not closing/sealing properly, water boiling out slowly

Check by Federals.

[QG]

Where can I find a Mechanic that is experienced with CS Lancers? I need a name, location and contact number.

[Dave]

What exactly u need to get done?

[QG]

It is to sort out a rough idle issue. Someone has raised the idle already but problem still exists.

[moses_boss12]

It is to sort out a rough idle issue. Someone has raised the idle already but problem still exists.

Yea any contacts on this would be great....I am still facing some serious headache with this idle thing..and the mechanics seem to be clueless in solving this issue

[moses_boss12]

Guys so hear the issue i am having with my CS.

I changed the IACV two Saturdays ago , the mechanic told me that the car would need to be driven for a while for everything to synchronize..however Friday gone there while driving around the savanna the car started to jerk around violently with the rev going up from 1000- to 2000, when mashing the brakes it slows down but the idle keeps going up.

The idle is only bearable when the AC is on, funny enough it actually steps down..when the car goes into reverse though feels like it has no power and bucks..

Help!! guys don't know what to do

Hope you all can make sense of the description

Moses you speaking about gdi or 4g18?
Try resetting the ecu. take off negative pole on battery for about 30mins and re install.
Car has to be started until it comes to mid temp in park. switched off and restarted again to retrain ecu with proper air and fuel ratios.

I cant see iacv doing this if its a functional unit. with gdi it could be engine pump or egr valve causing erractic idle.
with 4g18 map sensor can be cleaned, its on or close to the throttle this causes low idle too

So just an update on this issue, tried the ECU reset (TWICE!) and it has actually gotten worst over the past few days.


The idle issue is worst than before, when the AC is on now i get the same issue with the jerking around when braking...it just fluctuates between 1000-2000...

Think i would try and get the MAP sensor cleaned this weekend..is it a DIY if so what do i need to look for

[BrotherHood]

daniel's pops is a mechanic that is familair with the CS Lancers. PM daniel.

[nissan4life]

Moses you speaking about gdi or 4g18?
Try resetting the ecu. take off negative pole on battery for about 30mins and re install.
Car has to be started until it comes to mid temp in park. switched off and restarted again to retrain ecu with proper air and fuel ratios.

I cant see iacv doing this if its a functional unit. with gdi it could be engine pump or egr valve causing erractic idle.
with 4g18 map sensor can be cleaned, its on or close to the throttle this causes low idle too

So just an update on this issue, tried the ECU reset (TWICE!) and it has actually gotten worst over the past few days.


The idle issue is worst than before, when the AC is on now i get the same issue with the jerking around when braking...it just fluctuates between 1000-2000...

Think i would try and get the MAP sensor cleaned this weekend..is it a DIY if so what do i need to look for

Moses 4g18 has a map sensor. its located on the throttle body or ontop intake manifold,its a black sensor. (cant remember location as i have 4g15)
Its held in with two 10mm bolts, unjack the sensor,unscrew them and pull upwards, clean out junk and re install. This is a dyi.
This and cleaning out throttle body with bars and iacv.Check this post viewtopic.php?f=33&t=458785
You could also be looking for a vacuum leak but i doubt as this usually happens with erratic idle even when the car is in park.

You basically taking this one step at a time to eliminate your problems and to avoid mechanics that guessing from bull sheiting you.
Where idlemind when you need him.

[ronsin1]

Moses you speaking about gdi or 4g18?
Try resetting the ecu. take off negative pole on battery for about 30mins and re install.
Car has to be started until it comes to mid temp in park. switched off and restarted again to retrain ecu with proper air and fuel ratios.

I cant see iacv doing this if its a functional unit. with gdi it could be engine pump or egr valve causing erractic idle.
with 4g18 map sensor can be cleaned, its on or close to the throttle this causes low idle too

So just an update on this issue, tried the ECU reset (TWICE!) and it has actually gotten worst over the past few days.

in addition to what is stated above the following should be checked.

1. CAM Sensor ( this sends the signals to the coil packs if the correct current is not sent you will get this problem)
2. Coil Packs (if the coil packs are not firing properly you will also end up with this problem)

my problem was the coil pack as well as the CAM senor.

Check a mechanic that knows about the 4G engines so the problem can be rectified properly.

even if your check engine light did not come on get the car scanned



The idle issue is worst than before, when the AC is on now i get the same issue with the jerking around when braking...it just fluctuates between 1000-2000...

Think i would try and get the MAP sensor cleaned this weekend..is it a DIY if so what do i need to look for

Moses 4g18 has a map sensor. its located on the throttle body or ontop intake manifold,its a black sensor. (cant remember location as i have 4g15)
Its held in with two 10mm bolts, unjack the sensor,unscrew them and pull upwards, clean out junk and re install. This is a dyi.
This and cleaning out throttle body with bars and iacv.Check this post viewtopic.php?f=33&t=458785
You could also be looking for a vacuum leak but i doubt as this usually happens with erratic idle even when the car is in park.

You basically taking this one step at a time to eliminate your problems and to avoid mechanics that guessing from bull sheiting you.
Where idlemind when you need him.

in addition to the above check the following:-

1. CAM Sensors
2. Coil Packs

I suggest a trained mechanic with experience with 4G engines to check this

also you might want to get the car scanned even if you check light does not come with the right type of scanner they can pick up if a sensor has a problem

[QG]

It is to sort out a rough idle issue. Someone has raised the idle already but problem still exists.

Yea any contacts on this would be great....I am still facing some serious headache with this idle thing..and the mechanics seem to be clueless in solving this issue

When there is a bad Mass Air Flow sensor (MAF), the idle jumps up and down repeatedly especially when accelerating; sometimes the rpm do not cross over 2500rpm.

Some people clean the sensor using CRC spray and the problem is solved, whereas others need to replace the sensor.

Another experience I had also was with a bad coil pack, while driving the car bucks vigorously even when I came to a complete stop. The mechanic immediately knew it was a bad coil so they checked the car to determined which coil was bad and they replaced with a new one. (happened on my tiida).

So check between those two possible diagnoses and I hope your problem is solved.

[fras]

average price of new oil pump (4G18)?

[Jade_Inc.]

What could cause a 4g18 to buck when you reach around 60km and up?

[moses_boss12]

Moses you speaking about gdi or 4g18?
Try resetting the ecu. take off negative pole on battery for about 30mins and re install.
Car has to be started until it comes to mid temp in park. switched off and restarted again to retrain ecu with proper air and fuel ratios.

I cant see iacv doing this if its a functional unit. with gdi it could be engine pump or egr valve causing erractic idle.
with 4g18 map sensor can be cleaned, its on or close to the throttle this causes low idle too

So just an update on this issue, tried the ECU reset (TWICE!) and it has actually gotten worst over the past few days.

in addition to what is stated above the following should be checked.

1. CAM Sensor ( this sends the signals to the coil packs if the correct current is not sent you will get this problem)
2. Coil Packs (if the coil packs are not firing properly you will also end up with this problem)

my problem was the coil pack as well as the CAM senor.

Check a mechanic that knows about the 4G engines so the problem can be rectified properly.

even if your check engine light did not come on get the car scanned



The idle issue is worst than before, when the AC is on now i get the same issue with the jerking around when braking...it just fluctuates between 1000-2000...

Think i would try and get the MAP sensor cleaned this weekend..is it a DIY if so what do i need to look for

Moses 4g18 has a map sensor. its located on the throttle body or ontop intake manifold,its a black sensor. (cant remember location as i have 4g15)
Its held in with two 10mm bolts, unjack the sensor,unscrew them and pull upwards, clean out junk and re install. This is a dyi.
This and cleaning out throttle body with bars and iacv.Check this post viewtopic.php?f=33&t=458785
You could also be looking for a vacuum leak but i doubt as this usually happens with erratic idle even when the car is in park.

You basically taking this one step at a time to eliminate your problems and to avoid mechanics that guessing from bull sheiting you.
Where idlemind when you need him.

in addition to the above check the following:-

1. CAM Sensors
2. Coil Packs

I suggest a trained mechanic with experience with 4G engines to check this

also you might want to get the car scanned even if you check light does not come with the right type of scanner they can pick up if a sensor has a problem

Thanks would check that out soon.

[Monk BANzai]

have an issue. The car refuses to start... It tumbles on a good battery. I got only one key with the car, so im not sure what gives. We ran a scan and got this print out: We didn't change anything. Immobilizer hard fault. No fault code for crank angle sensor.

Top code from engine control unit.

Bottom code from immobilizer control unit.

oh its a 2005 RallArt CS. 4G63 Non Turbo. IF that helps.

[nissan4life]

Banzai you mind writing the codes, kar see to good nah
I seeing po513 which is fault code for immobilizer key.
Never experienced this on a cs before but on a toyota yes. On toyota the car wouldn't not start at all, not even tumble. This was solved by having a new chip key re programmed to pcm. But it depends on if your fault is with the key or the unit
Could by-pass/disable immobilizer to see if this is your only problem and take it from there

[Monk BANzai]

Yeah it's PO513. From all indicating it looks like I have to get a new key and get it programmed. Does the guy in curepe do such jobs?

[nissan4life]

Yeah it's PO513. From all indicating it looks like I have to get a new key and get it programmed. Does the guy in curepe do such jobs?

A new key programmed is between 1200- 1500 depends on model of car and type of key they using.
I did mine at JEL Enterprises in valpark 645-9535. This is the only branch that does it.
Theres a guy somewhere around uwi but i never got a contact for him.
Also check this thread
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=372790

[Kronik]

^^there is also a JEL enterprises in Couva, right on the side of infinity electrical on the main road.

[moses_boss12]

Moses you speaking about gdi or 4g18?
Try resetting the ecu. take off negative pole on battery for about 30mins and re install.
Car has to be started until it comes to mid temp in park. switched off and restarted again to retrain ecu with proper air and fuel ratios.

I cant see iacv doing this if its a functional unit. with gdi it could be engine pump or egr valve causing erractic idle.
with 4g18 map sensor can be cleaned, its on or close to the throttle this causes low idle too

So just an update on this issue, tried the ECU reset (TWICE!) and it has actually gotten worst over the past few days.

in addition to what is stated above the following should be checked.

1. CAM Sensor ( this sends the signals to the coil packs if the correct current is not sent you will get this problem)
2. Coil Packs (if the coil packs are not firing properly you will also end up with this problem)

my problem was the coil pack as well as the CAM senor.

Check a mechanic that knows about the 4G engines so the problem can be rectified properly.

even if your check engine light did not come on get the car scanned



The idle issue is worst than before, when the AC is on now i get the same issue with the jerking around when braking...it just fluctuates between 1000-2000...

Think i would try and get the MAP sensor cleaned this weekend..is it a DIY if so what do i need to look for

Moses 4g18 has a map sensor. its located on the throttle body or ontop intake manifold,its a black sensor. (cant remember location as i have 4g15)
Its held in with two 10mm bolts, unjack the sensor,unscrew them and pull upwards, clean out junk and re install. This is a dyi.
This and cleaning out throttle body with bars and iacv.Check this post viewtopic.php?f=33&t=458785
You could also be looking for a vacuum leak but i doubt as this usually happens with erratic idle even when the car is in park.

You basically taking this one step at a time to eliminate your problems and to avoid mechanics that guessing from bull sheiting you.
Where idlemind when you need him.

in addition to the above check the following:-

1. CAM Sensors
2. Coil Packs

I suggest a trained mechanic with experience with 4G engines to check this

also you might want to get the car scanned even if you check light does not come with the right type of scanner they can pick up if a sensor has a problem

Thanks would check that out soon.

OK so cleaned out the MAP sensor and it was going good for a day..I gave praises to the heavens..then BAM!! it started all over lolz ..wondering if it is the sensor itself going bad or the IACV i changed giving me the issues.

Going to have the Coil pack checked and the CAM sensors, might as well put it up on the scan machine.

i did a scan with one of those small tools and nothing came up, so hopefully the one the mechanic has would show the issue..wanna fix this soon as i am selling the car

[nissan4life]

Moses could by your map thats goings. Your on the right track with having it scanned, just make sure its by someone who knows how to use the obd11 tool and not just scan the car and say there are no errors.
Another possibility when having the car tested is to let technician look at your map readings as well as o2 sensor reading for the ratio of consumption of gas.(lean or rich consumption)
Coilpack would probably never give you a CEL unless its gone.
Test this by starting the car and unplugging the spark plug wire on coil one at a time and putting them back in.
You suppose to notice a dip in the idle,like the car is going to cut off, you ll hear it and feel it with engine. The plug wire that you notice no change on is the coil thats on its way out.

[Nidish]

Hey guys, my next servicing is due at 55,500 Kms. What I need to do/change at this interval? Please help me out. Thanks

[deltree]

Hi Guys, It's been more than 6 months since I am banging my head trying to find a solution.

I want to replace both o2 sensors on my car. But I don't know what god forsaken model the CS2A is I have went through global, european and american catalogs there seems to be no mention of the car in any oxygen sensor manufacturer's list, not even NAP japan.

If anyone can tell me what substitute sensors are applicable for the CS2A then I will forever be indebted to you.

Part Numbers:

MR578661
MR578294

These original parts are available but they are like 10% the cost of the car itself landed in my country so I need to find a direct fit substitute which can be much cheaper. People say the 4g18/4g13 o2 will work on this the NTK part numbers for 4g18/4g13 are: OZA609-M1 & OZA548-M1

You guys are the last english speaking help I have left in this world.

[Jade_Inc.]

Does the check engine light come on when the cam or the crack sensor is bad? Cs3 lancer

[ZeroOne]

Hi Guys, It's been more than 6 months since I am banging my head trying to find a solution.

I want to replace both o2 sensors on my car. But I don't know what god forsaken model the CS2A is I have went through global, european and american catalogs there seems to be no mention of the car in any oxygen sensor manufacturer's list, not even NAP japan.

If anyone can tell me what substitute sensors are applicable for the CS2A then I will forever be indebted to you.

Part Numbers:

MR578661
MR578294

These original parts are available but they are like 10% the cost of the car itself landed in my country so I need to find a direct fit substitute which can be much cheaper. People say the 4g18/4g13 o2 will work on this the NTK part numbers for 4g18/4g13 are: OZA609-M1 & OZA548-M1

MR578661 is compatible with CS2A, CS2V and CS2W
MR578294 is compatible with the CS2A and CS2V.

All CS2A's and CS2V's came with 4g15 and 4g15 GDI engines, CS2W's came with 4g15, 4g93 and 4g93 GDI engines

Both are JDM part numbers.

[daniel135]

Moses you speaking about gdi or 4g18?
Try resetting the ecu. take off negative pole on battery for about 30mins and re install.
Car has to be started until it comes to mid temp in park. switched off and restarted again to retrain ecu with proper air and fuel ratios.

I cant see iacv doing this if its a functional unit. with gdi it could be engine pump or egr valve causing erractic idle.
with 4g18 map sensor can be cleaned, its on or close to the throttle this causes low idle too

So just an update on this issue, tried the ECU reset (TWICE!) and it has actually gotten worst over the past few days.

in addition to what is stated above the following should be checked.

1. CAM Sensor ( this sends the signals to the coil packs if the correct current is not sent you will get this problem)
2. Coil Packs (if the coil packs are not firing properly you will also end up with this problem)

my problem was the coil pack as well as the CAM senor.

Check a mechanic that knows about the 4G engines so the problem can be rectified properly.

even if your check engine light did not come on get the car scanned



The idle issue is worst than before, when the AC is on now i get the same issue with the jerking around when braking...it just fluctuates between 1000-2000...

Think i would try and get the MAP sensor cleaned this weekend..is it a DIY if so what do i need to look for

Moses 4g18 has a map sensor. its located on the throttle body or ontop intake manifold,its a black sensor. (cant remember location as i have 4g15)
Its held in with two 10mm bolts, unjack the sensor,unscrew them and pull upwards, clean out junk and re install. This is a dyi.
This and cleaning out throttle body with bars and iacv.Check this post viewtopic.php?f=33&t=458785
You could also be looking for a vacuum leak but i doubt as this usually happens with erratic idle even when the car is in park.

You basically taking this one step at a time to eliminate your problems and to avoid mechanics that guessing from bull sheiting you.
Where idlemind when you need him.

in addition to the above check the following:-

1. CAM Sensors
2. Coil Packs

I suggest a trained mechanic with experience with 4G engines to check this

also you might want to get the car scanned even if you check light does not come with the right type of scanner they can pick up if a sensor has a problem

Thanks would check that out soon.

OK so cleaned out the MAP sensor and it was going good for a day..I gave praises to the heavens..then BAM!! it started all over lolz ..wondering if it is the sensor itself going bad or the IACV i changed giving me the issues.

Going to have the Coil pack checked and the CAM sensors, might as well put it up on the scan machine.

i did a scan with one of those small tools and nothing came up, so hopefully the one the mechanic has would show the issue..wanna fix this soon as i am selling the car

Its usually the idle control valve that cause this. I was getting a bad idle. Sometimes 1500rpm, sometimes 400rpm. Changed out the iavc an problem solved. The crank sensor causes this also, without even throwing a chk engine light. Iacv is easier to change so start with that. P. S. People does want to sell u an entire throttle body for 1500. Just because they know the iacv goes bad

[Monk BANzai]

This is the key. I'm seeing normal transponder keys with no lock/unlock buttons. But not this one. I'm also seeing shells with no transponders.

$1250 for keys at Jel Enterprises... $650 if you have your own dummy keys... I want two but prefer to spend $1300 as opposed to $2500... Esp as the dummy keys cost like $14 US for a pair.

[Jade_Inc.]

is it normal to smell gas fumes when the engine is cold and has just been started?
cs3 lancer

[moses_boss12]

Moses you speaking about gdi or 4g18?
Try resetting the ecu. take off negative pole on battery for about 30mins and re install.
Car has to be started until it comes to mid temp in park. switched off and restarted again to retrain ecu with proper air and fuel ratios.

I cant see iacv doing this if its a functional unit. with gdi it could be engine pump or egr valve causing erractic idle.
with 4g18 map sensor can be cleaned, its on or close to the throttle this causes low idle too

So just an update on this issue, tried the ECU reset (TWICE!) and it has actually gotten worst over the past few days.

in addition to what is stated above the following should be checked.

1. CAM Sensor ( this sends the signals to the coil packs if the correct current is not sent you will get this problem)
2. Coil Packs (if the coil packs are not firing properly you will also end up with this problem)

my problem was the coil pack as well as the CAM senor.

Check a mechanic that knows about the 4G engines so the problem can be rectified properly.

even if your check engine light did not come on get the car scanned



The idle issue is worst than before, when the AC is on now i get the same issue with the jerking around when braking...it just fluctuates between 1000-2000...

Think i would try and get the MAP sensor cleaned this weekend..is it a DIY if so what do i need to look for

Moses 4g18 has a map sensor. its located on the throttle body or ontop intake manifold,its a black sensor. (cant remember location as i have 4g15)
Its held in with two 10mm bolts, unjack the sensor,unscrew them and pull upwards, clean out junk and re install. This is a dyi.
This and cleaning out throttle body with bars and iacv.Check this post viewtopic.php?f=33&t=458785
You could also be looking for a vacuum leak but i doubt as this usually happens with erratic idle even when the car is in park.

You basically taking this one step at a time to eliminate your problems and to avoid mechanics that guessing from bull sheiting you.
Where idlemind when you need him.

in addition to the above check the following:-

1. CAM Sensors
2. Coil Packs

I suggest a trained mechanic with experience with 4G engines to check this

also you might want to get the car scanned even if you check light does not come with the right type of scanner they can pick up if a sensor has a problem

Thanks would check that out soon.

OK so cleaned out the MAP sensor and it was going good for a day..I gave praises to the heavens..then BAM!! it started all over lolz ..wondering if it is the sensor itself going bad or the IACV i changed giving me the issues.

Going to have the Coil pack checked and the CAM sensors, might as well put it up on the scan machine.

i did a scan with one of those small tools and nothing came up, so hopefully the one the mechanic has would show the issue..wanna fix this soon as i am selling the car

Its usually the idle control valve that cause this. I was getting a bad idle. Sometimes 1500rpm, sometimes 400rpm. Changed out the iavc an problem solved. The crank sensor causes this also, without even throwing a chk engine light. Iacv is easier to change so start with that. P. S. People does want to sell u an entire throttle body for 1500. Just because they know the iacv goes bad

Hey Everyone so went and got the diagnostics done and it came up absolutely clear, everything seems to be perfect with the car. Everything seems to be functioning well... SO i went to another mechanic for his opinion he said it could be the IACV ( explained to him that i already had that changed, I also told him that i had ordered the part online due to its difficulty in obtaining locally ) he was adamant that is the cause of my headache,he mentioned that while the part may line up perfectly they sometimes dont correspond well with the car , he checked everything else including the coil packs and they all seemed to be functioning well...

So he recommends that i get another IACV and see if it would rectify the problem..so going to check him back Tuesday most likely and see how it goes from there