Drag racing returns to wallerfield

[SR]

July 26th according to the ttasa meeting held tonight.

[MG Man]

heard ARA will be running everything too

[pete]

D and w postponed?

[SR]

No speed promotions is running this event

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Jameer Ali, Vice President of TTASA said it will be a joint event between TTASA and Speed Promotions (Frankie Boodram).
The event will be mostly for street cars as trackbite cannot be used on the straightaway of the circuit track. If trackbite is used it will be only in the first couple hundred feet in the launch areas which are off of the circuit track.
They are still contemplating if to run West to East as is usually done, or East to West.
East to West will make it easier to use the current pit area, whereas West to East will require using the old karting area as the pit (shown in image as the potential pit area), however there is currently no access road to the starting area for this first event.

so far from the discussions with TTASA and Frankie it appears to be a street car event i.e. they probably will not let the big cars (sub 10 sec) run considering the track surface is still green and they cannot apply trackbite on the circuit track.

Trackbite can be used in the staging area and probably for a couple hundred feet. There was no confirmation as yet if they were going to apply trackbite at all.

There is also a dip in the track that they were supposed to work on. If they run East to West then the dip will be in the shut down area.





If running East to West, the launch area can be ont he concrete area where VIP was for the CMRC event (large tent in the lower part of this image)


if running West to East, the launch area will be where the car park is in this image behind the stands (the stands are no longer there). The potential pit area is the large concrete area on the left. There is an access area west of this behind those trees, but it is just dirt and mud as the concrete has been removed, so a road will need to be built to join the pit with the track on the west side. Unless a barrier is setup to use the east side of concrete area, but that might not be as safe.


some more aerial footage

[Aaron 2NR]

sounds good.... would have loved to be there but D&W that sunday

[dragaholic]

If they run from west to east where would the finish line end up as seen on this pic?

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

If they run from west to east where would the finish line end up as seen on this pic?

from some rough measuring done with a tape two Sunday's ago by members of TTUNDRA, AutoSport and Speed Promotions, the quartermile ends around the inside of this red circle IIRC. After the quartermile there was another ~1470 feet before the end of the paved track and then another 200ft or more of concrete surface where VIP was for the circuit event. Perhaps almost 1700 feet of stopping distance from the finish line.

[dragaholic]

Okay. They will have some excellent viewing area. Basically the entire length of the 1/4 mile.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

In my humble opinion, I think for the sake of cost efficiency, work to be done and how soon this event will be, they are going to run East to West and use the concrete area the VIP tent was in for the start line / staging area. This will give access to the pit that is already existing and fenced off from the CMRC event. No additional areas will need to be paved or constructed. Also the fence along the straightaway ends at the bottom corner (Frankie Boodram corner at the western end of the circuit track), so if they decide to run West to East then they will have to construct additional fencing to keep spectators from gaining access to the track. Running West to East will be more costly with infrastructure IMO.

[streetbeastINC.]

Wonder if every sunday can be like long ago where we can use the track for some good safe fun minus the huge crowd... v8 gathering spiders,

[MG Man]

No speed promotions is running this event

my bad
I was given the impression Frankie would be using Rawle to actually run the mechanics of the event

[Aaron 2NR]

In my humble opinion, I think for the sake of cost efficiency, work to be done and how soon this event will be, they are going to run East to West and use the concrete area the VIP tent was in for the start line / staging area. This will give access to the pit that is already existing and fenced off from the CMRC event. No additional areas will need to be paved or constructed. Also the fence along the straightaway ends at the bottom corner (Frankie Boodram corner at the western end of the circuit track), so if they decide to run West to East then they will have to construct additional fencing to keep spectators from gaining access to the track. Running West to East will be more costly with infrastructure IMO.

can't the old straight be used??

[SR]

From the small convos last night this may be a 1/8th mile track but wasnt confirmed as yet depends on the safety runoff when final measurements are made.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ they have been suggesting 1/8th mile, but there is over 1/2mile of straightaway.
Trinis don't like 1/8th mile racing

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

In my humble opinion, I think for the sake of cost efficiency, work to be done and how soon this event will be, they are going to run East to West and use the concrete area the VIP tent was in for the start line / staging area. This will give access to the pit that is already existing and fenced off from the CMRC event. No additional areas will need to be paved or constructed. Also the fence along the straightaway ends at the bottom corner (Frankie Boodram corner at the western end of the circuit track), so if they decide to run West to East then they will have to construct additional fencing to keep spectators from gaining access to the track. Running West to East will be more costly with infrastructure IMO.

can't the old straight be used??

IMO it's no where near as in good condition as the newly resurfaced track and it has a concrete pavement / drain directly on the side of it for the entire length. Right now that's better suited for spectator parking and bleachers.

[Aaron 2NR]

understood.....was just wondering why not use it and put the track bite there....safety first

[dragaholic]

not wasting my time to come and see no 1/8th mile racing

[AutoSport]

No speed promotions is running this event

my bad
I was given the impression Frankie would be using Rawle to actually run the mechanics of the event

Breds, leave me out of this please.

AutoSport will be staging their D&W #4 Event on Sunday 26th July at ARC.

Then heading to Tobago for another major Event on 1st - 2nd Aug.

But it just is amazing how ARA dates always attract others.....

[Dirty Face]

What I don't understand is this. Drag and wind that Sunday AND maybe more importantly CPL t20 final is also that day. So the promoters clearly looking for a small crowd. As is they saying the very fast cars (I.e. The crowd drawing cars) may not be safe to run so crowd loss there, the. Drag and wind so crowd and maybe participant loss there and cpl t20 which a lot of us won't miss even if red steel doesn't make it Tridents is practically a trini side so when this is poorly attended are they going to throw another one?? Shaz run this by them na. Makes no sense. Fix things properly and target mid or end of August geez

[SR]

I agree its not a good date but ttasa needs to cover some urgent expenses by the end of the month accrued from low spectator turnout from thenlast event due to the rains the event from last year and importantly a bill to eteck for use of the facilities. Keep in mind eteck does not want to relenquish that part of wallerfield to anyone and will use any excuse to look for a breach of contract. Members pledged monies to help raise funds wed night to assist in covering 1 specific bill to eteck but more is needed . The speed promotions event profits are to be used to hopefully cover the rest of the bill to eteck and assist in covering previous bills still due. There has been no government bailout on expenses but they have assisted with paving and the access to the venue so far.

[fiveforward]

Sooooooo TTASA's plan to address expenses incurred during a circuit is to hold a drags. Wow the brilliance in this logic is astounding. TTASA taking motorsport on the whole forward is like sneaking up on a delusional man high on crack and puncheon holding a cutlass watching the movie IT by himself.

[pete]

If they need to raise funds then that is really a terrible weekend to do it for all the points DF posted.

Plus we're in the middle of the rainy season so what happens if that event gets rained out too?

[link]

....As is they saying the very fast cars (I.e. The crowd drawing cars) may not be safe to run so crowd loss there....

I read that NHRA pit crews have to adjust their tuning for every track they compete on....and further fine tune depending on the prevailing track conditions.
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Additionally.........aren't there tracks that SPECIFICALLY RUN CLEAN SURFACES ??? ie...NO TRACTION COMPOUNDS...???
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no negatives there....just progressive thoughts....

[SR]

Sooooooo TTASA's plan to address expenses incurred during a circuit is to hold a drags. Wow the brilliance in this logic is astounding. TTASA taking motorsport on the whole forward is like sneaking up on a delusional man high on crack and puncheon holding a cutlass watching the movie IT by himself.

you need to get your facts straight before posting


Speed promotions plan to assist ttasa with expenses is to hold a drag meet.

That is what i got from attending the meeting.

Some members who were all involved with circuit made pledges to assist with immediate expenses

I agree that that date is not the best but what other dates are available before the end of the month when a specific bill needs to be paid to ensure retaining of wallerfield for the next 2 years....

[Aaron 2NR]

I've always found that drag racing crowd hardly ever cut into the D&W crowd, maybe 10% if so much....unfortunately dates are going to clash but the weekend of the 1st is D&W tobago, Karting and something else, so there are going to be clashes for the rest of the month with some other organization.

it would be nice to see some street car action tho...

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Sooooooo TTASA's plan to address expenses incurred during a circuit is to hold a drags. Wow the brilliance in this logic is astounding. TTASA taking motorsport on the whole forward is like sneaking up on a delusional man high on crack and puncheon holding a cutlass watching the movie IT by himself.

you misunderstand. The expenses mentioned here are for the lease of Wallerfield for Motorsport for the rest of the YEAR ($100,000). TTASA was hoping they could pay all of it after the CMRC event. The low turn out at the CMRC event meant that TTASA could not pay Eteck the entire lease one time, so they are having another motor racing event, in this case drag racing, to raise funds to help pay the lease.
Speed Promotions, who have had many drag events at Wallerfield in the past, offered to put on a drag event and donate the proceeds towards the lease payment. Added to this, TTASA members, at their monthly meeting on Wednesday night, pledged personal donations to also help pay the lease.

I'm not sure how your analogy works there.

[Aaron 2NR]

throwback

[fiveforward]

Noted SR and Duane, those answers just raise more questions but say wah. The money that himself is going to spend on himself in order to raise money for himself is best himself just donate the money directly and done. Why spend money on an event when based on many factors analyses in a cost/ benefit analysis it IS going to yield a NET LOSS.

These men never did business or what, no wait - based on their business success history their track records speak glaringly.

[SR]

You really dont have a clue and only a narrow minded view