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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby Slartibartfast » March 17th, 2015, 10:28 am

88sins wrote:Yes son, it's always easier to use a gun. That's why bandits use guns, ease of use. Put in bullets, stand up from any distance, point & squeeze.
This is what I believe makes guns more dangerous (and therefore in need of greater regulations than knives). The ease with which they can be used to kill or significantly harm another person.

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby Redman » March 17th, 2015, 11:30 am

Slartibartfast wrote:
88sins wrote:Yes son, it's always easier to use a gun. That's why bandits use guns, ease of use. Put in bullets, stand up from any distance, point & squeeze.
This is what I believe makes guns more dangerous (and therefore in need of greater regulations than knives). The ease with which they can be used to kill or significantly harm another person.


If some one reaches a decision to kill some one.....in a heated moment -then the tool or manner used is a secondary decision.

A fire arm comes with baggage....

if its legal ...its been processed and traceable.
Its very distinct and loud, and after the fact do you keep a fire arm that ties you to a murder or do you toss it.
If you toss it you only have until the next mandatory inspection... at that point you need to present THAT fire arm.


So it could be argued that given the factors outside of your control ...using the firearm is harder.

And maybe a deterrent..

I say that because some one carrying often seeks to AVOID scenarios where a confrontation will result in him having to use the weapon.

The best gunfight is the one you didnt have.

my 2 cents

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby 88sins » March 17th, 2015, 11:49 am

Slartibartfast wrote:This is what I believe makes guns more dangerous (and therefore in need of greater regulations than knives).


Not disputing such, but regulation means that there is a standardized method for the screening of applicants, as well as for the application for & the granting of, & use of permits & arms permitted. Currently & from inception, this has not been the case. It is impossible to regulate something that is being done on a whim & a fancy by one individual. Whether you, I or anyone else thinks it needs to be regulated, before it can be regulated & controlled there must be a standardized mechanism for any & all suitably qualified persons to apply for & successfully attain a permit, in a timely fashion. Now, there is a standardized method of application, but it has effectively been converted to a method of randomization & elitism. As is right now, they can't even standardize how long an application should take before it is approved or denied. Can you image having to wait 15-20 years to find out if your application has been approved or denied? imho, if they cannot even accomplish that amazingly simple task, there is little to no hope of them to be able to successfully perform greater tasks.


Slartibartfast wrote:The ease with which they can be used to kill or significantly harm another person.


Not disputing such, however that does not alter the fact that there are all too many illegally held firearms that are being used against unarmed, responsible, law abiding citizens that do qualify to keep & carry firearms, yet are routinely denied such opportunity for either vague or non existent reasons.

To keep things in perspective, there is a term known as justifiable homicide, & then there is murder. There have been thousands of murders in T&T over the last 2 decades, & iirc only about 60 or so justifiable homicides. There needs to be some sort of balance between those 2 statistics, either by preferably reducing the murder rate (which the ttps can not do, being the reactive entity that they are) or increasing the justifiable homicide rate, which would be an effective deterrent to the bulk of the murderous criminal element.

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby Sundar » March 17th, 2015, 12:24 pm

thumbs buried in that bandit eyesocket, squeeze that windpipe till crushed... violence

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Re: Gun License

Postby jimmy001 » June 25th, 2015, 12:34 pm

is there any1 here who can guide me along in filling out the relevant forms for the provisional license form an ful form, pm me . thank you

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Re: Gun License

Postby PariaMan » June 25th, 2015, 1:14 pm

Went up to get my air rifle permit in POS in firearms section and saw a message to get forms at Government Printery

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Re: Gun License

Postby 88sins » June 25th, 2015, 6:03 pm

Who here would sign a petition to get the law changed about how, when ,why & by whom an FUL may be issued?
Elections coming. Now is a good time to start a movement to put this issue to whoevxer takes office next.

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Re: Gun License

Postby jimmy001 » June 25th, 2015, 6:17 pm

I have the forms already just need advice in filling it out, dont understand certain things

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Re: Gun License

Postby Redman » June 25th, 2015, 6:51 pm

88sins wrote:Who here would sign a petition to get the law changed about how, when ,why & by whom an FUL may be issued?
Elections coming. Now is a good time to start a movement to put this issue to whoevxer takes office next.


Sure...

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Re: Right to bear arms

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby 88sins » February 4th, 2018, 7:06 am

Wha happn SMASH
U want an AR15 owa :lol:

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » February 4th, 2018, 9:35 am

Ever wonder why America is the greatest country on earth? the answer is simple, the US constitution is the greatest document ever written. According to the Second Amendment the Right to Keep and Bear arms shall NOT be infringed upon. The First Amendment protects against the government trying to censor free speech in the nasty guise of "hate speech" even though there is no such thing as hate speech. Hate Speech is a term the lunatic left made up for safe spaces. The left would love nothing better than to modify or abolish the first 2 Amendments. Stalin for example was a left wing person and he behaved exactly like this the first thing he went after was free speech and took away the guns. He then starved 7 million people in Ukraine to death.

Anybody remember when the burglar broke into the house of a young mother in Texas? and she put a 12 gauge in he cacahole? he went back out the same speed he came in.

The dishonest left wing liberals will tell us that guns are bad because in 2016 a mother shot her 2 daughters. But the nasty dishonest left wing liberals will never tell you that a crazy person like her would have killed those 2 girls regardless of a gun all she would have done was poison the 2 kids if she couldn't find a gun.

Years ago I remember reading politics on a liberal forum and they were discussing a case in Netherlands where a woman took a baseball bat and knocked out a rapist who broke into her house, she hit him in the head and he blanked out and was awoken in the hospital. He then sued the woman and WON the case, the liberals said she had no right to hit him in the head when he broke into the house they said she was supposed to call the police and accept the rape in the meanwhile.

Since then I understood the dangers of liberalism and I have been right everytime. And just imagine that was a decade ago or more, today the left is more retarded than ever.

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby ruffneck_12 » February 4th, 2018, 9:47 am

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:
Years ago I remember reading politics on a liberal forum and they were discussing a case in Netherlands where a woman took a baseball bat and knocked out a rapist who broke into her house, she hit him in the head and he blanked out and was awoken in the hospital. He then sued the woman and WON the case, the liberals said she had no right to hit him in the head when he broke into the house they said she was supposed to call the police and accept the rape in the meanwhile.

Since then I understood the dangers of liberalism and I have been right everytime. And just imagine that was a decade ago or more, today the left is more retarded than ever.



Boy, Europe going down the drain inno.

Sweden esp. Sooo progressive that they overshot the sweet spot and they descending into a SJW wasteland

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby sMASH » February 4th, 2018, 7:21 pm

88sins wrote:Wha happn SMASH
U want an AR15 owa :lol:
:angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:
YAAAASSSSS

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby sMASH » February 4th, 2018, 7:21 pm

i wanna stunt like alwaries chilren

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby wagonon20's » February 9th, 2018, 8:49 pm

Yuh wah hold up ah big TOOL and pose ,

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Re: Right to bear arms

Postby sMASH » February 10th, 2018, 3:07 pm

I want to do it legally.

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Gun Business ?

Postby RedVEVO » May 22nd, 2018, 4:01 am

" .. PRESIDENT of the Greater San Fernando Area Chamber of Commerce Kriyan Singh says putting guns into the hands of business owners in the city could cause more bloodshed on the streets.

Last week, head of the San Fernando Business Association (SBA) Daphne Bartlett called for businesspeople to be armed. But Singh disagrees. "



http://newsday.co.tt/2018/05/22/chamber ... esspeople/

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Re: Gun Business ?

Postby RedVEVO » May 22nd, 2018, 4:06 am

^^

" He ( Singh ) spoke to the media when Snr Supt Zamsheed Mohammed visited his businessplace in RRM Plaza during a walkabout in the city. Singh said bandits would target business owners just to get their guns .. "

Bandits want YOUR money $$$ , your valuables, NOT your gun.

They already have a good steady supply of guns .

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Re: Gun Business ?

Postby Redman » May 22nd, 2018, 6:11 am

Why just business people?

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Re: Gun Business ?

Postby ruffneck_12 » May 22nd, 2018, 7:34 am

Yes there will be more bloodshed in the streets.

But most of the blood spilled will be criminal blood.

Which is known to clean the streets.

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Re: Gun Business ?

Postby pugboy » May 22nd, 2018, 7:47 am

gun business have plenty smoke and mirrors esp on dealer side

right now the police only granting a particular dealer import license
so if guns are supposed to be come more available and the other dealers whose annual import licenses are being held back start to make noise then that dealer gonna lose business......

this dealer has been "successful" in being able to get his annual import licenses approved early whilst everybody else gets theirs very late in the year and its backdated, ie you only get to use your license for a few remaining months of the year.

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Re: Gun Business ?

Postby eurotuner » May 22nd, 2018, 8:16 am

Duhh! I can see it going down in a south rum shop now lallbeharry: "aye bai you feel you bad, I go shoot yuh up bai" Pooran : "ah waiting, ah have the same thing you have, just better, touch ah button"... * crazy bar gun fight ensues *

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Re: Gun Business ?

Postby RBphoto » May 22nd, 2018, 8:22 am

pugboy wrote:gun business have plenty smoke and mirrors esp on dealer side

right now the police only granting a particular dealer import license
so if guns are supposed to be come more available and the other dealers whose annual import licenses are being held back start to make noise then that dealer gonna lose business......

this dealer has been "successful" in being able to get his annual import licenses approved early whilst everybody else gets theirs very late in the year and its backdated, ie you only get to use your license for a few remaining months of the year.



This makes a lot of sense, but what is the holdup with FUL's?

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Re: Gun Business ?

Postby Chimera » May 22nd, 2018, 8:25 am

he's a kinda BUGWAAANAAA

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Re: Gun Business ?

Postby *KRONIK* » May 22nd, 2018, 8:31 am

RBphoto wrote:
pugboy wrote:gun business have plenty smoke and mirrors esp on dealer side

right now the police only granting a particular dealer import license
so if guns are supposed to be come more available and the other dealers whose annual import licenses are being held back start to make noise then that dealer gonna lose business......

this dealer has been "successful" in being able to get his annual import licenses approved early whilst everybody else gets theirs very late in the year and its backdated, ie you only get to use your license for a few remaining months of the year.



This makes a lot of sense, but what is the holdup with FUL's?
No hold up.
Men getting FUL.

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Re: Gun Business ?

Postby 88sins » May 22nd, 2018, 1:12 pm

*KRONIK* wrote:
RBphoto wrote:
pugboy wrote:gun business have plenty smoke and mirrors esp on dealer side

right now the police only granting a particular dealer import license
so if guns are supposed to be come more available and the other dealers whose annual import licenses are being held back start to make noise then that dealer gonna lose business......

this dealer has been "successful" in being able to get his annual import licenses approved early whilst everybody else gets theirs very late in the year and its backdated, ie you only get to use your license for a few remaining months of the year.



This makes a lot of sense, but what is the holdup with FUL's?
No hold up.
Men getting FUL.

shhhh, not so loud, nex ting carelessjohn hear yuh

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Re: Gun Business ?

Postby *KRONIK* » May 22nd, 2018, 3:42 pm

88sins wrote:
*KRONIK* wrote:
RBphoto wrote:
pugboy wrote:gun business have plenty smoke and mirrors esp on dealer side

right now the police only granting a particular dealer import license
so if guns are supposed to be come more available and the other dealers whose annual import licenses are being held back start to make noise then that dealer gonna lose business......

this dealer has been "successful" in being able to get his annual import licenses approved early whilst everybody else gets theirs very late in the year and its backdated, ie you only get to use your license for a few remaining months of the year.



This makes a lot of sense, but what is the holdup with FUL's?
No hold up.
Men getting FUL.

shhhh, not so loud, nex ting carelessjohn hear yuh
He probably trying to be carefulljohn now!

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Re: Gun Business ?

Postby RedVEVO » May 22nd, 2018, 6:08 pm

Redman wrote:Why just business people?


He is pandering politics .

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Re: Gun Business ?

Postby rspann » May 22nd, 2018, 7:36 pm

Lancer123 get his own in three weeks.

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