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Re: Introducing Caitlyn Jenner #CallMeCaitlyn

Postby bluefete » June 1st, 2015, 8:23 pm

Daran: More money to be made of silly people.

Do you know that there are parents in Europe and the USA who are encouraging their 3, 4 and 5 year old children to explore alternative genders?

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Postby janfar » June 1st, 2015, 8:37 pm

bluefete, can you post viable evidence of such. I know you ascribe to invisible evidence but not everyone does. Post non-huffington sources please.

Adults have the uncanny ability to chose what they want to watch, and despite what i said above they have the choice to change the channel or turn off the TV.

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Postby bluefete » June 1st, 2015, 8:39 pm

janfar wrote:bluefete, can you post viable evidence of such. I know you ascribe to invisible evidence but not everyone does. Post non-huffington sources please.

Adults have the uncanny ability to chose what they want to watch, and despite what i said above they have the choice to change the channel or turn off the TV.


Evidence of what? The 3, 4 and 5 year olds?

Or evidence of the millions the Kardashians are making?

Just asking.

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Re: Introducing Caitlyn Jenner #CallMeCaitlyn

Postby janfar » June 1st, 2015, 8:40 pm

3,4,5 year olds.

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Postby bluefete » June 1st, 2015, 8:41 pm

K. I will get back to you.

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Postby bluefete » June 1st, 2015, 8:42 pm

Janfar:


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Postby bluefete » June 1st, 2015, 9:03 pm

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael ... sex-change

Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is ‘Mental Disorder;' Sex Change ‘Biologically Impossible’
By Michael W. Chapman | August 20, 2014 | 1:34 PM EDT


(CNSNews.com) -- Dr. Paul R. McHugh, the former psychiatrist-in-chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital and its current Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry, said that transgenderism is a “mental disorder” that merits treatment, that sex change is “biologically impossible,” and that people who promote sexual reassignment surgery are collaborating with and promoting a mental disorder.

Dr. McHugh, the author of six books and at least 125 peer-reviewed medical articles, made his remarks in a recent commentary in the Wall Street Journal, where he explained that transgender surgery is not the solution for people who suffer a “disorder of ‘assumption’” – the notion that their maleness or femaleness is different than what nature assigned to them biologically.

He also reported on a new study showing that the suicide rate among transgendered people who had reassignment surgery is 20 times higher than the suicide rate among non-transgender people. Dr. McHugh further noted studies from Vanderbilt University and London’s Portman Clinic of children who had expressed transgender feelings but for whom, over time, 70%-80% “spontaneously lost those feelings.”

While the Obama administration, Hollywood, and major media such as Time magazine promote transgenderism as normal, said Dr. McHugh, these “policy makers and the media are doing no favors either to the public or the transgendered by treating their confusions as a right in need of defending rather than as a mental disorder that deserves understanding, treatment and prevention.

“This intensely felt sense of being transgendered constitutes a mental disorder in two respects. The first is that the idea of sex misalignment is simply mistaken – it does not correspond with physical reality. The second is that it can lead to grim psychological outcomes.”

The transgendered person’s disorder, said Dr. McHugh, is in the person’s “assumption” that they are different than the physical reality of their body, their maleness or femaleness, as assigned by nature. It is a disorder similar to a “dangerously thin” person suffering anorexia who looks in the mirror and thinks they are “overweight,” said McHugh.

This assumption, that one’s gender is only in the mind regardless of anatomical reality, has led some transgendered people to push for social acceptance and affirmation of their own subjective “personal truth,” said Dr. McHugh. As a result, some states – California, New Jersey, and Massachusetts – have passed laws barring psychiatrists, “even with parental permission, from striving to restore natural gender feelings to a transgender minor,” he said.

The pro-transgender advocates do not want to know, said McHugh, that studies show between 70% and 80% of children who express transgender feelings “spontaneously lose those feelings” over time. Also, for those who had sexual reassignment surgery, most said they were “satisfied” with the operation “but their subsequent psycho-social adjustments were no better than those who didn’t have the surgery.”

“And so at Hopkins we stopped doing sex-reassignment surgery, since producing a ‘satisfied’ but still troubled patient seemed an inadequate reason for surgically amputating normal organs,” said Dr. McHugh.

The former Johns Hopkins chief of psychiatry also warned against enabling or encouraging certain subgroups of the transgendered, such as young people “susceptible to suggestion from ‘everything is normal’ sex education,” and the schools’ “diversity counselors” who, like “cult leaders,” may “encourage these young people to distance themselves from their families and offer advice on rebutting arguments against having transgender surgery.”

Dr. McHugh also reported that there are “misguided doctors” who, working with very young children who seem to imitate the opposite sex, will administer “puberty-delaying hormones to render later sex-change surgeries less onerous – even though the drugs stunt the children’s growth and risk causing sterility.”

Such action comes “close to child abuse,” said Dr. McHugh, given that close to 80% of those kids will “abandon their confusion and grow naturally into adult life if untreated ….”


“’Sex change’ is biologically impossible,” said McHugh. “People who undergo sex-reassignment surgery do not change from men to women or vice versa. Rather, they become feminized men or masculinized women.
Claiming that this is civil-rights matter and encouraging surgical intervention is in reality to collaborate with and promote a mental disorder.”
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Re: Introducing Caitlyn Jenner #CallMeCaitlyn

Postby bluefete » June 1st, 2015, 9:04 pm

Sorry for the double post.

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Re: Introducing Caitlyn Jenner #CallMeCaitlyn

Postby desifemlove » June 1st, 2015, 9:11 pm

so dis fella suppose that they live in distress? isn't mental illness about distress?

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Postby janfar » June 1st, 2015, 9:36 pm

I notice that none of Dr. Paul R. McHugh peer reviewed documents are on trangenderism which brings me to believe that his synopsis is based on his personal worldview. He is a catholic after all.

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Re: Introducing Caitlyn Jenner #CallMeCaitlyn

Postby Cantmis » June 1st, 2015, 9:42 pm

So am bruce gonna get some BBC 8-)
cyah leh alll dem daughters have all d funn

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Postby Ted_v2 » June 1st, 2015, 9:46 pm

Curtms wrote:So am bruce gonna get some BBC 8-)
cyah leh alll dem daughters have all d funn

That's it. Man fed-up run down his daughters, till he turn into one

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Postby Ronaldo95163 » June 1st, 2015, 11:38 pm

nasty bullerman an dem

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Postby rollingstock » June 1st, 2015, 11:45 pm

Ronaldo95163 wrote:nasty bullerman an dem


Self hate is the worst kind of hate :|

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Postby Ronaldo95163 » June 1st, 2015, 11:46 pm

ogoarrr

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Re: Introducing Caitlyn Jenner #CallMeCaitlyn

Postby Cantmis » June 2nd, 2015, 12:37 am

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeettt
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Re: Introducing Caitlyn Jenner #CallMeCaitlyn

Postby smithmj678 » June 2nd, 2015, 1:40 am

bluefete wrote:
janfar wrote:Bluefete, do you have fallopian tubes?


To each his own... if he wants to be a dog, cat rabbit its not our business. My issue is when these fools dominate the networks and de-educate the people. No one knows whats going on in the real world any more.


I am a male. No need for fallopian tubes. It is our business when this rubbish dominates out local news and as you correctly stated, detracts from important issues.

As I told my son today, while people waste time on this rubbish, "Caitlyn" and company are making millions of dollars of very, very foolish people.


If it turned out that your son was gay, what would you do?

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Postby link » June 2nd, 2015, 6:12 am

if you use unbiased thought :

Sequential hermaphroditism (called dichogamy in botany) is a type of hermaphroditism that occurs in many fish, gastropoda and plants. Sequential hermaphroditism occurs when the individual changes sex at some point in its life. They can change from a male to female (protandry), or from female to male (protogyny)[1] or from female to hermaphrodite (protogynous hermaphroditism). Those that change gonadal sex can have both female and male germ cells in the gonads or can change from one complete gonadal type to the other during their last life stage.[2] Individual flowers are also called sequentially hermaphrodite, although the plant as a whole may have functionally male and functionally female flowers open at the same time.


plants & some so-called 'lower order' animals have mastered the process.
I dare say, humans have lost that ability (as a consequence of our evolutionary progress), probably because our species survive-ability(?) nullified the benefits of sequential hermaphroditism.
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Re: Introducing Caitlyn Jenner #CallMeCaitlyn

Postby mark2.0 » June 2nd, 2015, 6:34 am

bluefete wrote:When you cud show me if "Caitlyn" have all of dat den come back and talk to me.

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i agreeeeee 900000000000000%

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Re: Introducing Caitlyn Jenner #CallMeCaitlyn

Postby Les Bain » June 2nd, 2015, 7:50 am

Caitlyn's journey not over yet. Despite reaching this point, transgendered people still have that stigma to fight once they step out of their support bubble and come to terms with the fact that while scientific and medical breakthroughs have provided them with the facade to match what their mind identifies them as, on a biological level they'll never become the opposite sex, and that issue does have an impact on the transgendered community.

But good luck to her. I fine with being a cisgendered male. Just wish I had money and a GT3.

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Postby RBphoto » June 2nd, 2015, 8:09 am

This bodes well for the LBGT community. he looks happier now then when she was a man. Life is the pursuit of happiness, and this is indeed a great act of courage on her part. Would love to heare what comes out of Kanye's mouth next tho... he has been a proponent of LGBT rights for a long time http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/life/peo ... west_x.htm

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Re: Introducing Caitlyn Jenner #CallMeCaitlyn

Postby uncle sam » June 2nd, 2015, 8:19 am

nasty, pathetic and attention seeking whore... what a failure to humanity

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Postby sliderz1 » June 2nd, 2015, 8:55 am

in this thread

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Postby humbleservant » June 2nd, 2015, 9:09 am




More Fire Fi Dem...........

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Re: Introducing Caitlyn Jenner #CallMeCaitlyn

Postby pete » June 2nd, 2015, 9:24 am

uncle sam wrote:nasty, pathetic and attention seeking whore... what a failure to humanity


Don't be so hard on yourself.

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Postby uncle sam » June 2nd, 2015, 9:25 am

pete wrote:
uncle sam wrote:nasty, pathetic and attention seeking whore... what a failure to humanity


Don't be so hard on yourself.


k.

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Re: Introducing Caitlyn Jenner #CallMeCaitlyn

Postby The Paleontologist » June 2nd, 2015, 9:26 am

uncle sam wrote:nasty, pathetic and attention seeking whore... what a failure to humanity
like you found out your gyul was really a man

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Postby uncle sam » June 2nd, 2015, 9:26 am

chulo45 wrote:
uncle sam wrote:nasty, pathetic and attention seeking whore... what a failure to humanity
like you found out your gyul was really a man


k.

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Re: Introducing Caitlyn Jenner #CallMeCaitlyn

Postby MG Man » June 2nd, 2015, 9:52 am

sad how one human's choice can spark insecurity and hate in so many....

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