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Re: *** THE OFFICIAL HOME THEATER & AUDIO THREAD**

Postby Anton » May 16th, 2015, 6:14 am

Budget?

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 16th, 2015, 11:13 am

wheelbarrow wrote:Image

This is the receiver I'm gonna be using for now.
Any recommendations on speakers?
where are you using it, size of the room and how much are you looking to spend on speakers?

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Postby wheelbarrow » May 16th, 2015, 11:49 am

Using it in the 14x14 room I spoke of earlier in the ched.
Not sure about budget yet tho. Looking at options.

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Postby X_Factor » May 16th, 2015, 11:57 am

u need to set a budget or at least an idea, options can be from 1200 to 12000

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Re: *** THE OFFICIAL HOME THEATER & AUDIO THREAD**

Postby wheelbarrow » May 16th, 2015, 12:17 pm

Thinking around $4k.

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Postby carluva » May 16th, 2015, 2:20 pm

4k US or TT? 4k TT kinda low for quality speakers. The speakers in my 7.1 setup over 2k US and while they are good quality, they not even top quality. Some top quality speakers prob run you about 2k US ea...

What kinda fidelity in sound u looking for? Is it a a main theater room or just a lil hobby room? your needs and preference would dictate what you wanna hear.

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Re: *** THE OFFICIAL HOME THEATER & AUDIO THREAD**

Postby wheelbarrow » May 16th, 2015, 3:14 pm

carluva wrote:4k US or TT? 4k TT kinda low for quality speakers. The speakers in my 7.1 setup over 2k US and while they are good quality, they not even top quality. Some top quality speakers prob run you about 2k US ea...

What kinda fidelity in sound u looking for? Is it a a main theater room or just a lil hobby room? your needs and preference would dictate what you wanna hear.



I'm talking TT, (could be more than 4k, I don't really know the local market prices) I don't want to go too expensive on this. The room will be used only for watching movies and playing the campaign/story on games(I use a headset when Im online).
I would like good quality but not top quality.

Its really a system to match the entry level receiver.


I'm thinking sumn like these Pioneer SP-PK52FS Andrew Jones 5.1 Home Theater Speaker Package
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Postby carluva » May 16th, 2015, 3:23 pm

http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Techno ... cinema+600

Deftech. I built up my deftech but this is a base system you can try.

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Postby wheelbarrow » May 16th, 2015, 3:30 pm

carluva wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Technology-ProCinema-Center-Speaker/dp/B000TDENA6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1431803958&sr=8-1&keywords=procinema+600

Deftech. I built up my deftech but this is a base system you can try.


Thanks for the recommendation, ah will look into them.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 16th, 2015, 7:31 pm

wheelbarrow wrote:
carluva wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Technology-ProCinema-Center-Speaker/dp/B000TDENA6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1431803958&sr=8-1&keywords=procinema+600

Deftech. I built up my deftech but this is a base system you can try.


Thanks for the recommendation, ah will look into them.
I'm using the Def Tech ProCinema 600 in my office and I like it!

it has an unusual front speaker setup, which you can bypass, but it sounds better with it.

Get a Panamax to plug that Onkyo receiver and which ever powered subwoofer you buy in to. It will protect it from surges and clean up line noise brilliantly.
Check Electronic Interiors Ltd for the Panamax.

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Postby Zim » May 19th, 2015, 3:51 pm

^Duane that a nice system, if you don't mind my asking, u had that air freighted? How was the fee?

Electronic Interiors Ltd, thanks, I'll contact you

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 19th, 2015, 7:54 pm

Zim wrote:^Duane that a nice system, if you don't mind my asking, u had that air freighted? How was the fee?

Electronic Interiors Ltd, thanks, I'll contact you
Check Electronic Interiors, they are the agents for Marantz and he can hook you up with the Def Techs.

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Postby Zim » May 20th, 2015, 9:13 am

Thanks man, will do :)

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 20th, 2015, 12:04 pm

this is the office setup with

Panasonic TC-L50E60 50" LED
Marantz NR1403
Definitive Technology ProCinema 600
Panamax MR5100
Roku 3
AppleTV
PS3
Logitech Harmony Ultimate Home
Playseat Evolution
Thrustmaster T500RS steering wheel and pedal box
Thrustmaster TH8RS shifter

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The Definitive Tech ProCinema 600 are great speakers for the price. They are not as bright as the Klipsch that I am accustomed to in my home theater setup (audiophiles may appreciate this more) but they sound full and come with a well matched sub, even though it is tiny.
The recommended way to setup the ProCinema 600 is to run the front left and right speakers from a crossover on the Sub. I didn't use this option, instead I used the more traditional method of running each speaker directly from the receiver. I plan to try both wiring setups to hear which one sounds better.

The Marantz NR1403 and the Def Tech ProCinema 600 or even 1000 are a great matchup for a high quality budget setup.

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Re: *** THE OFFICIAL HOME THEATER & AUDIO THREAD**

Postby Anton » May 20th, 2015, 12:24 pm

Office space looks awesome!!

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Postby K74T » May 20th, 2015, 1:01 pm

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 20th, 2015, 1:16 pm

Anton wrote:Office space looks awesome!!
thanks!

there is a couch on the other side of the room. The shutters were supplied by OFS Canvas. They are motorised, aluminum shutters, really quiet and burglar and hurricane proof. They are usually mounted outside, but I liked the look so we mounted it inside

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The home office is adjacent to the garage

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Postby Anton » May 20th, 2015, 1:20 pm

You've got a great eye for design man. Is that an epoxy floor? If so what was the avg price per sq/ft?

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 20th, 2015, 1:33 pm

Anton wrote:You've got a great eye for design man. Is that an epoxy floor? If so what was the avg price per sq/ft?
thanks!
it's a polyaspartic coating with an ISONEM screed to level the floor

It was done by Protection Plus Engineering Ltd
http://www.protectionplustt.com/product ... ms-screed/

They don't quote a avg sq/ft price. They have to do a site visit and test the substrate before recommending what is needed. So each floor will have a different price.

I wanted something hard wearing that was resistant to oil, brake fluid, coolant etc. and easy to clean.

Call David at 354-5509. You can tell him you got the number from here.

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Postby Anton » May 20th, 2015, 1:35 pm

Thanks for the info. Will follow up with them.

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Postby Soundstream_626 » May 20th, 2015, 2:17 pm

Just to stir some discussion, heres an oldish thread from Parts Express forum showing measurements of some "higher end" manufacturer systems. Some are very expensive and measure horridly. that being said, some were well reviewed. Great sounding is so subjective.

http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?229108-The-Worst-Speakers-Ever!-Shiny-Finishes-Good-Marketing-Terrible-Sound

Do you guys think people ignore lower offerings because of brand hype? I did at one point till I knew better.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 20th, 2015, 2:37 pm

Soundstream_626 wrote:Great sounding is so subjective.
true words!!!

Soundstream_626 wrote:Just to stir some discussion, heres an oldish thread from Parts Express forum showing measurements of some "higher end" manufacturer systems. Some are very expensive and measure horridly. that being said, some were well reviewed. Great sounding is so subjective.

http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?229108-The-Worst-Speakers-Ever!-Shiny-Finishes-Good-Marketing-Terrible-Sound

Do you guys think people ignore lower offerings because of brand hype? I did at one point till I knew better.
I'm sure. Bose is a fine example of great marketing hype.

IMO Daytons from Amazon for $40 a pair sounds better but look boxy and cheap. Klipsch RC bookshelf also are boxy but look and sound great.

It's difficult though to make tiny satellites and subs that look and sound as good as KEF low profiles or lower priced ProCinema or Energy Take classics.

Aesthetics as well as sound and vision all play a part in home theater setups.

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Postby Morpheus » May 20th, 2015, 9:56 pm

Beautiful space there Duane!

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Postby meccalli » May 20th, 2015, 10:24 pm

Soundstream_626 wrote:Some are very expensive and measure horridly

This is what drives the diy hifi community. It's well known.

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Postby X_Factor » May 20th, 2015, 10:47 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Soundstream_626 wrote:Great sounding is so subjective.
true words!!!

Soundstream_626 wrote:Just to stir some discussion, heres an oldish thread from Parts Express forum showing measurements of some "higher end" manufacturer systems. Some are very expensive and measure horridly. that being said, some were well reviewed. Great sounding is so subjective.

http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?229108-The-Worst-Speakers-Ever!-Shiny-Finishes-Good-Marketing-Terrible-Sound

Do you guys think people ignore lower offerings because of brand hype? I did at one point till I knew better.
I'm sure. Bose is a fine example of great marketing hype.

IMO Daytons from Amazon for $40 a pair sounds better but look boxy and cheap. Klipsch RC bookshelf also are boxy but look and sound great.

It's difficult though to make tiny satellites and subs that look and sound as good as KEF low profiles or lower priced ProCinema or Energy Take classics.

Aesthetics as well as sound and vision all play a part in home theater setups.


yupp
quite true, psychoacoustics is always at work
if you got those same daytons, throw some cloth over them and tell ppl they are some high end brand, 9/10 will believe you even if they heard the high end brand before

take the high end brand, in a cluttered, disorganized room....even if they know what brand they are listening to.....i am almost sure ppl will say they heard better or expected better

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 21st, 2015, 12:23 am

Morpheus wrote:Beautiful space there Duane!
thanks!

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Postby crazybalhead » May 21st, 2015, 10:18 am

Soundstream_626 wrote:Just to stir some discussion, heres an oldish thread from Parts Express forum showing measurements of some "higher end" manufacturer systems. Some are very expensive and measure horridly. that being said, some were well reviewed. Great sounding is so subjective.

http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?229108-The-Worst-Speakers-Ever!-Shiny-Finishes-Good-Marketing-Terrible-Sound

Do you guys think people ignore lower offerings because of brand hype? I did at one point till I knew better.


Definitely. I actually stongly believe a great pair of car audio coaxes in a well designed sealed enclosure can sound awesome for example, but most people will scoff at the idea. The point source for one thing is a huge bonus. And it works out really cheap.

Something we have to remember is that in the early days of HT, we had to have shielded woofers to prevend damage to CRT's so the audio became a bit speciallised. nowadays with plasmas and leds lcds this is no longer a requirement, which leaves the table open to a host of audio options.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 21st, 2015, 10:42 am

crazybalhead wrote:
Soundstream_626 wrote:Just to stir some discussion, heres an oldish thread from Parts Express forum showing measurements of some "higher end" manufacturer systems. Some are very expensive and measure horridly. that being said, some were well reviewed. Great sounding is so subjective.

http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?229108-The-Worst-Speakers-Ever!-Shiny-Finishes-Good-Marketing-Terrible-Sound

Do you guys think people ignore lower offerings because of brand hype? I did at one point till I knew better.


Definitely. I actually stongly believe a great pair of car audio coaxes in a well designed sealed enclosure can sound awesome for example, but most people will scoff at the idea. The point source for one thing is a huge bonus. And it works out really cheap.

Something we have to remember is that in the early days of HT, we had to have shielded woofers to prevend damage to CRT's so the audio became a bit speciallised. nowadays with plasmas and leds lcds this is no longer a requirement, which leaves the table open to a host of audio options.

6x9's in the ceiling!!!
and mount the sub in a hole in the wall. Infinite baffle!

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Re: *** THE OFFICIAL HOME THEATER & AUDIO THREAD**

Postby crazybalhead » May 21st, 2015, 11:01 am

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
crazybalhead wrote:
Soundstream_626 wrote:Just to stir some discussion, heres an oldish thread from Parts Express forum showing measurements of some "higher end" manufacturer systems. Some are very expensive and measure horridly. that being said, some were well reviewed. Great sounding is so subjective.

http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?229108-The-Worst-Speakers-Ever!-Shiny-Finishes-Good-Marketing-Terrible-Sound

Do you guys think people ignore lower offerings because of brand hype? I did at one point till I knew better.


Definitely. I actually stongly believe a great pair of car audio coaxes in a well designed sealed enclosure can sound awesome for example, but most people will scoff at the idea. The point source for one thing is a huge bonus. And it works out really cheap.

Something we have to remember is that in the early days of HT, we had to have shielded woofers to prevend damage to CRT's so the audio became a bit speciallised. nowadays with plasmas and leds lcds this is no longer a requirement, which leaves the table open to a host of audio options.

6x9's in the ceiling!!!
and mount the sub in a hole in the wall. Infinite baffle!



Okay Duane. :lol: :lol: :lol: . 6x9's in two pig tail bucket dan. (yes...I have done that already)

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Re: *** THE OFFICIAL HOME THEATER & AUDIO THREAD**

Postby meccalli » May 21st, 2015, 11:19 am

crazybalhead wrote:The point source for one thing is a huge bonus.

I think that's a necessity for great sound. It's why single driver fullrange systems are amazing at music.

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