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Re: Stop the killing in GAZA-Boycott Israeli products NOW!!

Postby HSA » August 15th, 2014, 9:49 am

megadoc1 wrote:
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You do know that wikipedia is a BS source for information. Thats why if used as a reference in a UWI assignment, you'll immediately fail................


yes you may be right if you are one of those "paper title chasers" then wiki will land u in trouble and your statement bears testimony of such mentality....but for one who's willing to use his brain wiki becomes a great place to start! so I disagree with your blanket statement on Wikipedia! as one can do himself a favor and scroll down to the bottom of the page, look at the sources,find them and take a read ....after all, factual evidence was used there and is available for u to dig in and draw your own conclusions ! Re the McMahon–Hussein Correspondence and the Sykes–Picot Agreement
you can also look up opposing views and present them here !

my use of wiki was not for whatever your objections to it may be

we can go as far back and see that all these problems was started by the actions of this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavrilo_Princip and the group he was involved with ..would you go dig into it?



lol @ "your statement bears testimony of such mentality" and "as one can do himself a favor and scroll down"

That moment when we reply and try to sound educated....don't mind me..just trolling with you...yes you can start at wikipedia but not only wikipedia dan...all your references were from wikipedia....thats my point...don't take everything from wikipedia as anyone could write an article and express their biases there.

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Postby AdamB » August 15th, 2014, 10:53 am

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Jew hatred is not just a problem of Islam, the Catholic also does the same thing, Hitler said he was doing his Christian duty by killing Jews. The many years of persecution by the Catholic church and excluding them from normal lives and interacting with people in the community forced Jews to adapt.

Since Humans evolved we have a natural ability to adapt to changing environments etc. Fine jews can't plant crops because this would give them money? no problem Jews became bankers and scientists.

GOD works in ways that we may not be able to comprehend...imagine if there were 6 million more jews, their children, grand children and great grand children unleashed upon the world acting in the manner they are acting now!

Persecuted, murdered, scarred for generations BUT hey it's payback time now!

This is how they give thanks to the nation that took them into their country, gave them a home...take a look at the borders initially set when the state of Israel was formed in the mid 20th century. i wonder of anyone would be interested to see the population and land space occupied then and NOW of Palestine and Israel.

yuh know what i have indian (hindu) in meh, so i going back to India to claim my rightful land!! i will go with automatic weapons, tanks, missiles, fighter jets and A-bombs to deal with anyone who gets in my way...

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Postby Dizzy28 » August 15th, 2014, 12:24 pm

All this chess burn over the 1948 borders. Someone correct me if I'm wrong
1. The initial borders were set by the UN
2. the Arabs were displeased with it and declared war on the 1 day old Jewish state
3. The Tiny Jewish stated defeated the combined might off the Arab world
4. Borders were redefined after war, the victors taking more land (legally allowed under international law) as a strategic buffer against soggy Arabs who just can't seem to know how to win
5. Islamic world beats up about original borders in 2014

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Postby megadoc1 » August 15th, 2014, 1:45 pm

HSA wrote:"

That moment when we reply and try to sound educated....don't mind me..just trolling with you...yes you can start at wikipedia but not only wikipedia dan...all your references were from wikipedia....thats my point...
son, yes Wikipedia was used as my reference on the matter we are disusing, the documents they point to are the ones that's most important to our discussion,you can ignore wiki's commentary and read the document yourself


HSA wrote:don't take everything from wikipedia
I did not OK :wink:
HSA wrote:"as anyone could write an article and express their biases there.
captain obvious? ....the same can be done here so go read the documents, look at what actually took place ,then come comment here with or without your own biases

WIKI is not the discussion at hand nor was it my intention to spoon feed anyone, you interrupt a whole ched to discus wiki? ...dang!

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 15th, 2014, 2:10 pm

HSA wrote:
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HSA wrote:
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During the First World War an Arab uprising and British campaign led by General Edmund Allenby, the British Empire's commander of the Egyptian Expeditionary Force, drove the Turks out of the Levant, a part of which was the Sinai and Palestine Campaign.[2] The United Kingdom had agreed in the McMahon–Hussein Correspondence that it would honour Arab independence if they revolted against the Ottomans. The two sides had different interpretations of this agreement. In the event, the UK and France divided up the area under the Sykes–Picot Agreement, an act of betrayal in the opinion of the Arabs. Further confusing the issue was the Balfour Declaration promising support for a Jewish "national home" in Palestine. After the war ended, a military administration, named Occupied Enemy Territory Administration, was established in the captured territory of the former Ottoman Syria. The British sought legitimacy for their continued control of the region and this was achieved by obtaining a mandate from the League of Nations in June 1922. The formal objective of the League of Nations Mandate system was to administer parts of the defunct Ottoman Empire, which had been in control of the Middle East since the 16th century, "until such time as they are able to stand alone."[3] The civil Mandate administration was formalized with the League of Nations' consent in 1923 under the British Mandate for Palestine, which covered two administrative areas. The land west of the Jordan River, known as Palestine, was under direct British administration until 1948, while the land east of the Jordan was a semi-autonomous region known as Transjordan, under the rule of the Hashemite family from the Hijaz, and gained independence in 1946.[4]
read more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine

and check out these articles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMahon%E2%80%93Hussein_Correspondence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement



You do know that wikipedia is a BS source for information. Thats why if used as a reference in a UWI assignment, you'll immediately fail................


Well then suggest a more valid source of information!!



Anywhere else??? look at sites who are supporting both sides...BBC ..CNN will be supporting Israel....Al Jazeera will lean toward palestine....read from both and filter sense from nonsense
Understand how Wikipedia works. It can be edited by the public but it is monitored and so is not usually subject to bias as both sides have a public say. Read from the references. That's why they are listed.
Understand how CNN and BBC work. They are biased.
Understand that lecturers dont like Wikipedia mostly because it makes research batsh!t easy for students.

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Re: Stop the killing in GAZA-Boycott Israeli products NOW!!

Postby HSA » August 15th, 2014, 2:27 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
HSA wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
HSA wrote:
megadoc1 wrote:
During the First World War an Arab uprising and British campaign led by General Edmund Allenby, the British Empire's commander of the Egyptian Expeditionary Force, drove the Turks out of the Levant, a part of which was the Sinai and Palestine Campaign.[2] The United Kingdom had agreed in the McMahon–Hussein Correspondence that it would honour Arab independence if they revolted against the Ottomans. The two sides had different interpretations of this agreement. In the event, the UK and France divided up the area under the Sykes–Picot Agreement, an act of betrayal in the opinion of the Arabs. Further confusing the issue was the Balfour Declaration promising support for a Jewish "national home" in Palestine. After the war ended, a military administration, named Occupied Enemy Territory Administration, was established in the captured territory of the former Ottoman Syria. The British sought legitimacy for their continued control of the region and this was achieved by obtaining a mandate from the League of Nations in June 1922. The formal objective of the League of Nations Mandate system was to administer parts of the defunct Ottoman Empire, which had been in control of the Middle East since the 16th century, "until such time as they are able to stand alone."[3] The civil Mandate administration was formalized with the League of Nations' consent in 1923 under the British Mandate for Palestine, which covered two administrative areas. The land west of the Jordan River, known as Palestine, was under direct British administration until 1948, while the land east of the Jordan was a semi-autonomous region known as Transjordan, under the rule of the Hashemite family from the Hijaz, and gained independence in 1946.[4]
read more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine

and check out these articles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMahon%E2%80%93Hussein_Correspondence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement



You do know that wikipedia is a BS source for information. Thats why if used as a reference in a UWI assignment, you'll immediately fail................


Well then suggest a more valid source of information!!



Anywhere else??? look at sites who are supporting both sides...BBC ..CNN will be supporting Israel....Al Jazeera will lean toward palestine....read from both and filter sense from nonsense
Understand how Wikipedia works. It can be edited by the public but it is monitored and so is not usually subject to bias as both sides have a public say. Read from the references. That's why they are listed.
Understand how CNN and BBC work. They are biased.
Understand that lecturers dont like Wikipedia mostly because it makes research batsh!t easy for students.



we need to stop focusing on wikipedia. I posted my thoughts,got a comment,so i comment to the comment etc.time this shat ends on wikipedia and foucs on boycotting Israeli products

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Re: Stop the killing in GAZA-Boycott Israeli products NOW!!

Postby Slartibartfast » August 15th, 2014, 2:41 pm

I agree. This discussion about wikipedia not making any sense. It's like boycotting a franchise down here that also happens to exist in Israel in an attempt to stop Israel from attacking Palestine... oh wait...

#noKFCforpalestine

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Postby DFC » August 15th, 2014, 3:00 pm

Muslims real vocal about GAZA, but very quiet about ISIS.

lol.

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Postby HSA » August 15th, 2014, 3:12 pm

jump high jump low the world would not survive now if all Israeli associated products are boycotted. Muslims may say boycott KFC but come one day when you hungry and some family have KFC, see how fast that done......all we could do after speaking and protesting is hating it in our heart....well thats if you pro palestine..if you pro Israel then I hope you can protect your people with less innocent civilian casualties.

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Postby shogun » August 15th, 2014, 4:50 pm

DFC wrote:Muslims real vocal about GAZA, but very quiet about ISIS.

lol.


And that's my main complaint about people of the Muslim faith. That even those that are "moderate" and claim to reject violence, seem unable to publicly and consistently condemn the actions of the more militant and extremist factions... even locally. There almost seems to be a kind of quiet complicity.

Funny enough pioneer is one of the few people locally, i've seen attacking the local mosques and followers that preach that extremist ideology... yes, pioneer.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 15th, 2014, 5:09 pm

HSA wrote:foucs on boycotting Israeli products
how does this boycott work exactly?
Employees of these companies locally should quit their job and find another job?

Should Arawak and Fine Choice (Muslim owned poultry suppliers) stop being the main (or only) suppliers of chicken to KFC, TGIF, McDonalds and Burger King?

Low Cost and all the other Muslim owned supermarkets should stop selling Oreo's, Kraft, Colgate, Huggies, Nestlé, Pepsi, Fanta, CocaCola, Sprite and Johnson & Johnson's?

if the supermarkets already bought stock of these brands are they supposed to remove it from the shelves? They already paid for it, so should they sell out the stock they have and not order any more?

how should it work? Please enlighten us!

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 15th, 2014, 5:22 pm

shogun wrote:
DFC wrote:Muslims real vocal about GAZA, but very quiet about ISIS.

lol.


And that's my main complaint about people of the Muslim faith. That even those that are "moderate" and claim to reject violence, seem unable to publicly and consistently condemn the actions of the more militant and extremist factions... even locally. There almost seems to be a kind of quiet complicity.

Funny enough pioneer is one of the few people locally, i've seen attacking the local mosques and followers that preach that extremist ideology... yes, pioneer.
when someone draws a cartoon or speaks ill of the Prophet Muhammad, Muslims worldwide pass fatwahs calling for the death of that person, if they catch them they drag them through the streets and execute them.

It is my opinion that if Muslims worldwide behave that same way to suicide bombers and those that misuse the banner of Islam to carry out atrocities, I am sure all this extremism and killing in the name of Islam will stop. These individuals and groups will think twice about carrying out any violence and claiming it is Islam.

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Postby cinco » August 15th, 2014, 6:02 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
shogun wrote:
DFC wrote:Muslims real vocal about GAZA, but very quiet about ISIS.

lol.


And that's my main complaint about people of the Muslim faith. That even those that are "moderate" and claim to reject violence, seem unable to publicly and consistently condemn the actions of the more militant and extremist factions... even locally. There almost seems to be a kind of quiet complicity.

Funny enough pioneer is one of the few people locally, i've seen attacking the local mosques and followers that preach that extremist ideology... yes, pioneer.
when someone draws a cartoon or speaks ill of the Prophet Muhammad, Muslims worldwide pass fatwahs calling for the death of that person, if they catch them they drag them through the streets and execute them.

It is my opinion that if Muslims worldwide behave that same way to suicide bombers and those that misuse the banner of Islam to carry out atrocities, I am sure all this extremism and killing in the name of Islam will stop. These individuals and groups will think twice about carrying out any violence and claiming it is Islam.

Lol Duane u tryin to inject sense into these mindless drones?

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Postby nareshseep » August 15th, 2014, 6:06 pm

It would seem that human rights are second to religious beliefs

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Postby wing » August 15th, 2014, 6:15 pm

Good point Duane, like I said earlier, where are the protests about ISIS, Boko Haram etc.... Where is the outrage about the child holding up the guy's head? Israel's actions have been extreme, but our Muslims have exhibited a level of hypocrisy that is beyond belief.

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Postby cinco » August 15th, 2014, 6:26 pm

nareshseep wrote:It would seem that human rights are second to religious beliefs

Give this man a cookie

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Postby HSA » August 16th, 2014, 11:03 am

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
HSA wrote:foucs on boycotting Israeli products
how does this boycott work exactly?
Employees of these companies locally should quit their job and find another job?

Should Arawak and Fine Choice (Muslim owned poultry suppliers) stop being the main (or only) suppliers of chicken to KFC, TGIF, McDonalds and Burger King?

Low Cost and all the other Muslim owned supermarkets should stop selling Oreo's, Kraft, Colgate, Huggies, Nestlé, Pepsi, Fanta, CocaCola, Sprite and Johnson & Johnson's?

if the supermarkets already bought stock of these brands are they supposed to remove it from the shelves? They already paid for it, so should they sell out the stock they have and not order any more?

how should it work? Please enlighten us!



when quoting...quote the whole thing please..the rest of my quote answers your question

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Postby boxy » August 16th, 2014, 3:10 pm

AdamB wrote:
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Jew hatred is not just a problem of Islam, the Catholic also does the same thing, Hitler said he was doing his Christian duty by killing Jews. The many years of persecution by the Catholic church and excluding them from normal lives and interacting with people in the community forced Jews to adapt.

Since Humans evolved we have a natural ability to adapt to changing environments etc. Fine jews can't plant crops because this would give them money? no problem Jews became bankers and scientists.

GOD works in ways that we may not be able to comprehend...imagine if there were 6 million more jews, their children, grand children and great grand children unleashed upon the world acting in the manner they are acting now!

Persecuted, murdered, scarred for generations BUT hey it's payback time now!

This is how they give thanks to the nation that took them into their country, gave them a home...take a look at the borders initially set when the state of Israel was formed in the mid 20th century. i wonder of anyone would be interested to see the population and land space occupied then and NOW of Palestine and Israel.

yuh know what i have indian (hindu) in meh, so i going back to India to claim my rightful land!! i will go with automatic weapons, tanks, missiles, fighter jets and A-bombs to deal with anyone who gets in my way...


Somebody has been watching ISIS/HAMAS/IRANIAN/HEZBULLAH Propaganda videos on you tube cause you cannot possibly think this horse fodder up on your own.


I have slowly come to realize that where religion and politics are concerned everybody wants to remain ignorant in their point of veiws no matter how nonsensical dotish and outright STUPID they are, and they go down fighting to the very end. Very few people have the mental fortitude to dialogue and actually step back and say yuh know yuh right about this.... This is why the world will always remain on the brink.

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Postby megadoc1 » August 16th, 2014, 6:38 pm

boxy ,I see you've met AdamB ,he did come up with that on his own trust meh

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Postby shogun » August 17th, 2014, 7:36 am

Lol...

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Postby boxy » August 17th, 2014, 11:33 am

http://www.bing.com/r/2/AA5qjXL?a=1&m=EN-US. This just upset my day especially after what AdamB said yesterday.......where the outrage for this? This tribe was not collateral damage this was simply u is not Sunni? Then DIE!! Fellas apparently are Hamas/PA correspondent's. Here is a thought HSA boycott driving yuh car seeing as ISIS controls most oil fields in Iraq. Maybe that will stop the massacre of innocent non Sunni "heathens"


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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 31st, 2014, 6:09 pm

Reuters is usually a reliable source for accurate news; Daily News, not so much.

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Postby sMASH » August 31st, 2014, 6:09 pm

Muslims were not silent about isis, they are in clear error!
Many have been saying that.
Many are lured to the state out if religious ideology, the khilafa is a compelling attraction. But it is reported to be armed by American arms.

If so, there is a greater agenda than Muslims killing people and so must be eradicated.

Because they are centralized, they would be easy to attack.
So, u get many of the Muslims who could stand and fight in one area, let a set of atrocities be attributed to that group, gain public favor to go to in that land with heavy military, then eliminate that group in the name of the greater good.

In that way, the few that are willing to stand and fight you are destroyed, while u establish a significant military presence among those who can't fight.
U also establish yourself as the voice of good, so all your further actions are justified... Whatever they would be.


It was a trap.
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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 31st, 2014, 6:19 pm

sMASH wrote:Muslims were not silent about isis, they are in clear error!
Many have been saying that.
Many are lured to the state out if religious ideology, the khalifa is a compelling attraction. But it is reported to be armed by American arms.
you mean the Caliphate?

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Postby pioneer » August 31st, 2014, 6:35 pm

Arabic spelling I guess

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Postby RASC » August 31st, 2014, 6:37 pm

I'm confused by what sMash wrote.
Seriously speaking can someone make sense of what he's trying to say, or can he himself break it down for me.

Thanks.

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Postby pioneer » August 31st, 2014, 6:40 pm

Not sure but I wanna know when local muslims plan to stage a local march against ISIS.

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Postby sMASH » August 31st, 2014, 6:51 pm

Ok rasc .
Isis might just be sponsored by Americans. Americans would go there to kill out the group. When they kill them out, they would have killed out most of the people that would be willing to stand up against them. Who ever remains would not be willing to take any kind of action against America.

Because isis is carrying out such grave acts, the world wide public would approve of action against isis.
America would bomb the shizz out of them , making themselves seem the savior of the world.
When they are seen as the savior of the world, any action they do would be right and any one opposed to them would be evil scum .

And then they will try to press every other nation to give up their nuclear weapons, but they would keep all of their own.

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Postby pioneer » August 31st, 2014, 6:53 pm

Proof?

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