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Little Girl Dies

Postby thejoshman1 » September 27th, 2013, 8:03 pm

So in the papers says that a little girl dies 20 day after her parents carry her to the hospital when she squeezes her finger in the gate at her home... whilst using antibiotics the doctors prescribed her..

Inexperienced doctors?

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby maj. tom » September 27th, 2013, 8:08 pm

are you a doctor?

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby thejoshman1 » September 27th, 2013, 8:10 pm

No sir, its just a suggestion, how else can someone die from squeezing their finger?

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby Kenjo » September 27th, 2013, 8:11 pm

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Gir ... &smobile=y

Girl, 4, dies after squeezing thumb
On September 3, four-year-old Natasha Sahadeo squeezed her thumb whilst playing, 20 days later she was pronounced dead at hospital.

Her father, Michael Sahadeo, told the Express that doctors are responsible for his child’s death.

The family have been plagued with sorrow- on August 14 their home in Kelly Village was burnt to the ground. They lost everything but were thankful that their lives were spared.

Mere weeks later, they lost the light of the family.

Speaking to the Express yesterday, Sahadeo, who was convicted for murder on two occasions in the past, said when he was released from jail, he turned over a new leaf and the birth of his daughter was his catalyst for change.

He said after his house was burnt, his family moved in with relatives in Las Lomas.

On September 3, he said Natasha was playing and squeezed her right thumb on a gate.

He and his wife Michelle carried the child to the St Helena Health Centre.

Sahadeo said doctors there “drained and dressed” the thumb, gave a prescription for antibiotics and sent the family home instructing them to return in five days.

On September 9 they returned with Natasha to the health centre.

“When we went back they say the finger get more worse that we have to go to Mt Hope for an X-ray and come back,” he said.

Sahadeo said they went to Mt Hope and after several hours got the X-ray and went back to the health centre.

He said Natasha’s thumb had turned black and after looking at the X-ray doctors at the health centre called an ambulance to take the child back to the Mt Hope children’s hospital.

“When we go Mt Hope we spend a day and a night, sit down. The doctors take a set of blood tests. All that time she was walking, talking, eating normal and everything,” said Sahadeo.

Both parents and Natasha slept on chairs whilst awaiting care.

Sahadeo said his daughter was then warded.

“They ward my baby. A whole week they ward my daughter for. Every morning and evening they taking blood test, all they say my baby her blood count low and her platelets. All kinds of medicine they giving my child,” said Sahadeo.

He said the doctors informed them that Natasha’s thumb had to be amputated.

“They give she blood before the surgery and the next morning she start to vomit green and pass out green stuff,” he said.

“They (doctors) tell we all kind of thing.

“They say her liver growing faster than how it supposed to be, her lungs failing, her kidney failing, but my child went in there healthy. When she was in the ward we sleep non-stop in there, in the waiting room, day and night we in the hospital,” he said.

On September 16, Natasha underwent surgery.

“She kept saying to she mother, mammy I don’t want to go for no operation” said Sahadeo.

“We sign the paper, we love we child, we do anything for her life. She went in normal, when she come back out she wasn’t she. They put a straw in she throat for she to breathe, they put a next straw inside she belly to pull out fluid. She wasn’t talking nothing only sleep. She sleep from the 16th to the day she die on Monday,” he said.

He said he and his wife were at the hospital when Natasha was struggling for life and none of the doctors called them even though they all knew they were there.

Sahadeo claimed Natasha was given steroids against their wishes.

“We tell them don’t give her any steroids. If you see the child body, the body real swell up big, she whole face, hand. My child went in there normal, eating, talking normal and healthy,” he said.

“After they do the surgery they say they have to go and cut she again, something inside she,” he added.

“She get up once after the operation and they gave her more medication to sleep.

If you is a mechanic you must know what wrong with a car, they kill my child they didn’t know what they doing,” he said.

He recalled the moment when he was told of Natasha’s death.

“By the time I see them come, not one of them come, eight of them come. They start to use big words and say I have to sign a next paper. Whole night we was there, they say my child get heart failure and we right there and they never call us. We right outside the door. Them doctors in Mt Hope killing people children,” he said.

“Everybody know my child, she was real loving, my only girl, I use to call her piggy. I change my life for she. Every where I go she was with me,” said Sahadeo.

He said he was shocked to see his daughter’s dead body which was swollen, her lips and tongue had turned blue.

The hospital’s autopsy stated that Natasha died from multiple organ failure, acute respiratory syndrome.

“Them kill my child, she went in the hospital healthy, she just squeeze she finger and today she dead. Them kill my baby,” said Sahadeo.

A second private autopsy is expected to be conducted.

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby maj. tom » September 27th, 2013, 8:23 pm

OP as you can see it is quite a complicated case and an investigation has to be done into the procedures of the medical doctors. The father can only tell his side of the story as far as he understands it, the doctors and the hospital records will tell another experience.

Don't be so quick to judge doctors again like that just because you have no idea what they do in public hospitals or how hard they work there.

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby shogun » September 27th, 2013, 8:26 pm

Would also like to know, exactly what took place with this child, but...

"Sahadeo, who was convicted for murder on two occasions in the past"

How is that possible?

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby thejoshman1 » September 27th, 2013, 8:30 pm

@kenjo good pst, yeah they work very hard, go UWI, drink for a few years, come in the hospitals as hotshot "doctors" and "nurses" and kill people children.... again my friend she squeeze she finger......

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby thejoshman1 » September 27th, 2013, 8:36 pm

Maybe he should get convicted for a third time? IYKWIM

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby Cid » September 27th, 2013, 8:37 pm

I read this article earlier today and the first thing that stood out was that the father has been convicted of murder on 2 seperate occasions....
As for the child its really sad... I suspect she didnt take the antibiotics.... How else would it get so bad in 5 days

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby thejoshman1 » September 27th, 2013, 8:43 pm

True her dad is a criminal, so was mine. but my point is how can you die if you squeeze your finger? unless you are given the wrong medication? Unless it was Necrosis (gangrene) but she could have gotten an amputation... or CORRECT antibiotics?

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby Kenjo » September 27th, 2013, 8:44 pm

thejoshman1 wrote:Maybe he should get convicted for a third time? IYKWIM


if you care to explain?

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby thejoshman1 » September 27th, 2013, 8:44 pm

Kenjo wrote:
thejoshman1 wrote:Maybe he should get convicted for a third time? IYKWIM


if you care to explain?


KILL THE DOCTORS

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby maj. tom » September 27th, 2013, 8:46 pm

a man convicted TWICE of murder and free. Responsible for administering antibiotic pills to a 4 year old child. Not that he was irresponsible, but you can read how he is not aware of any sort of proper medical care for his child.

Prior conditions of child? Did the child have AIDS? Did meningitis develop? does the child have non-functioning organs, or problems at a cellular level like cystic fibrosis. This was probably the first time the child had seen a doctor since she was born.

Doctors had to amputate thumb. Organ failure due to sepsis. Was the child allergic to the particular antibiotics that would have been noticed by the father on the 1st day of treatment, not 5 days later when it is obviously too late?

What pioneer does say? the talknah society... yeah go uwi and drink for a few years and come out hotshot doctor. yeah... that's how it works.

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby pioneer » September 27th, 2013, 8:49 pm

Strong english by the father

That's why CXC english is so important

Nobody ever stopped to think the parents didn't listen to the doctors, one can get that feeling from the article where the father expresses his distrust and mentioned something about all kinda medicine or sumn. They were telling the doctors what not to do. They sounded like they knew more than the doctors.

But alas talknah society would want to attack the doctors.

Pretty sure there's MUCH more to this story which the express would never publish. Let's hope newsday exposes them.

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby Kenjo » September 27th, 2013, 8:52 pm

pioneer wrote:Strong english by the father

That's why CXC english is so important

Nobody ever stopped to think the parents didn't listen to the doctors, one can get that feeling from the article where the father expresses his distrust and mentioned something about all kinda medicine or sumn. They were telling the doctors what not to do. They sounded like they knew more than the doctors.

But alas talknah society would want to attack the doctors.

Pretty sure there's MUCH more to this story which the express would never publish. Let's hope newsday exposes them.


papers hadda sell!

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby thejoshman1 » September 27th, 2013, 8:53 pm

^^^ You sir seem to be a very biased person towards the TnT health authority, but with all due respect my boy, a child has lost her life due to the incompetence of all the parties involved, and god rest her soul she wasn't exposed to an individual with the likes of you...

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby pioneer » September 27th, 2013, 8:55 pm

Talknah society needs a reason to cyak.

Trinis don't even obey the law, you expect them to "listen" to doctors? They know everything, he prolly looking for a $5M payout too.

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby hustla_ambition101 » September 27th, 2013, 8:55 pm

I have a gut feeling that this child had medical problems prior to this incident, I also suspect ingestion at home of a poisonous/harmful substance, but that's just my opinion

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Postby pioneer » September 27th, 2013, 8:58 pm

thejoshman1 wrote:^^^ You sir seem to be a very biased person towards the TnT health authority, but with all due respect my boy, a child has lost her life due to the incompetence of all the parties involved, and god rest her soul she wasn't exposed to an individual with the likes of you...



^^^really?

Where's the proof?

Hospital records would show the treatment prescribed and drugs administered, something which express would never publish.

Does the father have proof he actually acquired the medication? 5 days later the thumb goes black then you decide to return?

Not even ah phone call self to say something not right?...seein he knows so much...

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Postby DVSTT » September 27th, 2013, 8:59 pm

thejoshman1 wrote:@kenjo good pst, yeah they work very hard, go UWI, drink for a few years, come in the hospitals as hotshot "doctors" and "nurses" and kill people children.... again my friend she squeeze she finger......


Go speak your filth somewhere else.

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby sbocus » September 27th, 2013, 9:01 pm

There has to be more to this story......
Sad thing about the child though

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby Yorkshirelass » September 27th, 2013, 10:25 pm

A good journalist would get (or should get) both sides to a story like this before its published and a better editor would make sure they have it and this is just typical of the kind of journalism we are subject to day by day. This is sensationalism at its best - as I heard recently "if it bleeds, it leads". Don't get me wrong, it's a very tragic story- my criticism is of the reporting.

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby speedist » September 27th, 2013, 10:33 pm

It have too many questions arising from this on both sides. When the official autopsy comes out then we might have something.

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby Kenjo » September 27th, 2013, 10:36 pm

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/RHA ... 53412.html

RHA head wants report
By Anna Ramdass

Story Created: Sep 27, 2013 at 12:07 AM ECT

Story Updated: Sep 27, 2013 at 9:17 PM ECT

A detailed report on the circumstances surrounding the death of four-year-old Natasha Sahadeo has been requested by chairman of the North Central Regional Health Authority (NCRHA) Dr Shehenaz Mohammed.

Speaking to the Express by phone, Mohammed said she was informed of the matter and was advised that Natasha came into the hospital very ill.

“She came into the paediatric primary care facility with a fever above 40 degrees Celsius,” said Mohammed.

A number of doctors saw Natasha as her condition was not very good.

“She was managed and reviewed by a number of doctors in a multi-disciplinary team of consultants, including a haematologist, orthopaedic surgeon, paediatrician and Intensive Care Unit specialists, among others,” said Mohammed.

“I am advised there were no delays in getting her X-rays and radiological and laboratory tests. I am also advised that she was given very expensive and potent intravenous antibiotics provided by the hospital,” she added.

“However, she succumbed to her sepsis and developed acute respiratory failure. She was placed in the ICU and was managed intensely but succumbed to her sepsis irrespective of the antibiotics used,” said Mohammed.

“I have asked for a more detailed report on the case. My condolences go out to the family,” she added.

She said she understands that family are going through deep grief and she was willing to meet with them and counselling services are still available to them.

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby thejoshman1 » September 27th, 2013, 10:48 pm

Most of these fellas here probably don't know what it is to lose a family member, especially one so young, blame the father of the child as does society with every down fall of a child, and some of you taking offence because of your affiliation with UWI or proclaim themselves to be "doctors" but their wouldn't be an investigation into the matter if the doctors did their jobs CORRECTLY.....I speak filth you say? well if you can sit by and let an infant lose her life whilst I raise a genuine concern in the matter and you cannot agree with me well my friends, you have a more deeply rooted psychological problem.

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby thejoshman1 » September 27th, 2013, 10:54 pm

pioneer wrote:
thejoshman1 wrote:^^^ You sir seem to be a very biased person towards the TnT health authority, but with all due respect my boy, a child has lost her life due to the incompetence of all the parties involved, and god rest her soul she wasn't exposed to an individual with the likes of you...



^^^really?

Where's the proof?

Hospital records would show the treatment prescribed and drugs administered, something which express would never publish.

Does the father have proof he actually acquired the medication? 5 days later the thumb goes black then you decide to return?

Not even ah phone call self to say something not right?...seein he knows so much...


Big man like you talking this tata?

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby javishm » September 27th, 2013, 11:55 pm

this just fishy

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Postby pioneer » September 28th, 2013, 12:40 am

thejoshman1 wrote:Most of these fellas here probably don't know what it is to lose a family member, especially one so young, blame the father of the child as does society with every down fall of a child, and some of you taking offence because of your affiliation with UWI or proclaim themselves to be "doctors" but their wouldn't be an investigation into the matter if the doctors did their jobs CORRECTLY.....I speak filth you say? well if you can sit by and let an infant lose her life whilst I raise a genuine concern in the matter and you cannot agree with me well my friends, you have a more deeply rooted psychological problem.


Why don't you put some channa to boil while we sit and listen to your kool stories?

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby DTAC » September 28th, 2013, 12:41 am

Parents probably took one look at the prescription and say, "I ain't paying that setta money for that nah!" and try some home remedy or just leave it to get infected and then when it got really bad go back in with her when sepsis already take hold almost a week later.

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Re: Little Girl Dies

Postby X2 » September 28th, 2013, 2:32 am

May be patient neglect to some point, but if the body part turned black after treatment and antibiotics, the 'squeeze' must have been VERY bad... lack of oxygenated blood for just a few hours will allow flesh to die. If they did not originally remove dead flesh and just bandaged the wound, this could happen.

For those looking to outright blame doctors, you should know that there are tons of substandard medication on the market that is made in India and China... such as antibiotics that have lower than minimum dosage. This means a 5 day span of antibiotics may not have fought the infection as quickly or powerfully as it should, which would allow the onset of gangrene and eventually blood poisoning which will kill a child rather quickly... fever, etc...

Could also be neglect from either medical attendants or parents, but honestly, the bad and crap generic drugs that are dumped into 3rd world countries like TnT could definitely be responsible for something like this. Do we have laws to protect us against substandard imports ?

(stop thinking... the real answer is no)

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