Digicel 4G/HSPA+ Thread

[Devourment]

Again, this is just semantics, but I assume you mean LTE by 4G as TSTT already has had 4G for 2 years now in the form of WiMAX.

Is this real 4G?

i.e. near 100M bit/s moving and 1Gbit/s stationary transfer speeds? Plus the rest of things that go along with calling your network 4G ?

Edit: I'm questioning because 4G is "LTE Advanced", not simply LTE (which is still 3G).

The 3G and 4G are just marketing terms. You're right that a couple years ago, 4G was supposed to indicate speeds of 1Gbit/s.....but that was abandoned long ago once OFDMA with 64 QAM using 4x4 MIMO was made ready for UMTS (i.e. GSM 3G aka HSPA+), WiMAX & LTE.

That's right, they are all using the same access technology, which is why HSPA+ is called 3.9G and WiMAX along with LTE are called 4G.

What makes WiMAX & LTE 4G and not 3G is that 4G can scale up to 1gbps in theory, however, from tests i've seen that requires 100mhz of spectrum, 4x4 MIMO, and 128 QAM using super low error correction ratios.....the best and most expensive phones are capable of 1/8 this speed (max).

[redmanjp]

i think is tstt backbone that doesn't have enough bandwidth- but if digi decide to upgrade tstt will have to flick on that switch

[bushwakka]

we likeee eeeet

[anoojra]

Since it have so many Bmobile users here...could someone tell me how to remove this Bmobile International News thing, where they does be sending me news every day that i don't read

someone had activate it on my phone sim and i don't know how they did it.

Thanks in advance

[lostallos101]

no more mylime :'( now ah have to pay for every minute i talk

oh well so February for it right? *waits to see how this goes down*

[teems1]

no more mylime :'( now ah have to pay for every minute i talk

oh well so February for it right? *waits to see how this goes down*

eh? waddya mean no more mylime? when is that officially ending?

[stev]

wah d as..doh make dem joke nah boi. wah u mean no more my lime? splain yuhself nah man.

[lostallos101]

umm fellas it done already :/ i think last week it officially finished

[jsm1985]

umm fellas it done already :/ i think last week it officially finished

That's not true, My Lime promotion is still running as it has all the time (it is renewed at the end of every period they advertise until)

Now until March 2012

http://www.bmobile.co.tt/services/mylime/

[skylinechild]

No prob, all TSTT has to do is flick a switch and theirs is on too.

on really.... u know something that i dont ???

[xtech]

i think is tstt backbone that doesn't have enough bandwidth- but if digi decide to upgrade tstt will have to flick on that switch

I believe its the other way around and is Digicel "Trinidad" with a weak backbone.

All of their cell towers are linked not by fiber but with wireless. Unless they fix that they will never be able to give you full 3G or worse yet 4G speeds even if they do roll it out.


TSTT is just going to relax since Bmobile dont have to worry about a thing.

Besides flow has a faster internet access package an TSTTs Blink could match it but they simply wont be bothered

[lostallos101]

umm fellas it done already :/ i think last week it officially finished

That's not true, My Lime promotion is still running as it has all the time (it is renewed at the end of every period they advertise until)

Now until March 2012

http://www.bmobile.co.tt/services/mylime/

wait nah so what was with the text then really taking money for all the minutes i spent? messing with man emotions

ok sorry mates...i was mistaken...carry on

[S_2NR]

umm fellas it done already :/ i think last week it officially finished

stop talkin sheit

[Picasso]

No prob, all TSTT has to do is flick a switch and theirs is on too.

on really.... u know something that i dont ???

Apparently he does...

TSTT already upgraded connections for selected cell sites and testing is going to start early 2012 on the " real 4G service ". The service may roll out for selected corporate clients in the late half of 2012 and be available for everyone before the end of 2012 or early 2013 .


Doh PM me or ask nothing further

[skylinechild]

No prob, all TSTT has to do is flick a switch and theirs is on too.

on really.... u know something that i dont ???

Apparently he does...

TSTT already upgraded connections for selected cell sites and testing is going to start early 2012 on the " real 4G service ". The service may roll out for selected corporate clients in the late half of 2012 and be available for everyone before the end of 2012 or early 2013 .


Doh PM me or ask nothing further

so from this we can see.....
1. the constant outages of the network was due to these "upgrades" on CERTAIN sites.....
why they keeping the cows they have instead of upgrading them or replacing them with full fledged cell sites to get island wide coverage...

2. they going to start testing by NEXT yr

3. they service MAY be available middle of next yr... no promises

my issue is not with you my issue is why they taking soo long to make it available....

Trinidad is one of the most prosperous islands in the Caribbean yet we have sub standard service....

*sigh

[lostallos101]

dan we pitch paves some of the best roads in trini n look at ours....its just how it is here...its a competition thing...one waiting on other to make move before dropping the bombshell

[suffocate69]

No prob, all TSTT has to do is flick a switch and theirs is on too.

on really.... u know something that i dont ???

Apparently he does...

TSTT already upgraded connections for selected cell sites and testing is going to start early 2012 on the " real 4G service ". The service may roll out for selected corporate clients in the late half of 2012 and be available for everyone before the end of 2012 or early 2013 .


Doh PM me or ask nothing further

Not arguing with the timelines or any proposed plan to beta test corporate clients, it's very much a 'TSTT like' plan to only cater to rich west people.

Anyways, I used to work for TSTT contractor and their backbone (Metro-E) is superb, they could have supported 4G spreeds since 2006.

Their problem is and has always been the access side of the network. Going for 2G to 3G isn't a simple switch.They have to buy new equipment and install it on every cell site then to extensive testing. That sort of thing takes a lot of time.

Given my experience with TSTT's network rollouts, I don't see them being ready in 2012 sadly. Digicel on the hand is installing a lot of equipment and seems to be way ahead of where TSTT is at this point.

[skylinechild]

No prob, all TSTT has to do is flick a switch and theirs is on too.

on really.... u know something that i dont ???

Apparently he does...

TSTT already upgraded connections for selected cell sites and testing is going to start early 2012 on the " real 4G service ". The service may roll out for selected corporate clients in the late half of 2012 and be available for everyone before the end of 2012 or early 2013 .


Doh PM me or ask nothing further

Not arguing with the timelines or any proposed plan to beta test corporate clients, it's very much a 'TSTT like' plan to only cater to rich west people.

Anyways, I used to work for TSTT contractor and their backbone (Metro-E) is superb, they could have supported 4G spreeds since 2006.

Their problem is and has always been the access side of the network. Going for 2G to 3G isn't a simple switch.They have to buy new equipment and install it on every cell site then to extensive testing. That sort of thing takes a lot of time.

Given my experience with TSTT's network rollouts, I don't see them being ready in 2012 sadly. Digicel on the hand is installing a lot of equipment and seems to be way ahead of where TSTT is at this point.

agreeing with the points in blue.....However certain elements of the cell tower upgrade CAN be reused- and certain parts cant.....WRT to the cost, it can be done....TSTT annual profit is millions upon millions....also the tower must also still be downward compatible with normal cell phones - phones that just send / receive a call and SMS.

TSTT can do it but as someone rightfully said...they waiting for someone to drop the bombshell then they will do it....

[powered by ?]

i think is tstt backbone that doesn't have enough bandwidth- but if digi decide to upgrade tstt will have to flick on that switch

I believe its the other way around and is Digicel "Trinidad" with a weak backbone.

All of their cell towers are linked not by fiber but with wireless. Unless they fix that they will never be able to give you full 3G or worse yet 4G speeds even if they do roll it out.


TSTT is just going to relax since Bmobile dont have to worry about a thing.

Besides flow has a faster internet access package an TSTTs Blink could match it but they simply wont be bothered

FYI.. DIgicel do have fiber links to majority of their cell towers....

[suffocate69]

No prob, all TSTT has to do is flick a switch and theirs is on too.

on really.... u know something that i dont ???

Apparently he does...

TSTT already upgraded connections for selected cell sites and testing is going to start early 2012 on the " real 4G service ". The service may roll out for selected corporate clients in the late half of 2012 and be available for everyone before the end of 2012 or early 2013 .


Doh PM me or ask nothing further

Not arguing with the timelines or any proposed plan to beta test corporate clients, it's very much a 'TSTT like' plan to only cater to rich west people.

Anyways, I used to work for TSTT contractor and their backbone (Metro-E) is superb, they could have supported 4G spreeds since 2006.

Their problem is and has always been the access side of the network. Going for 2G to 3G isn't a simple switch.They have to buy new equipment and install it on every cell site then to extensive testing. That sort of thing takes a lot of time.

Given my experience with TSTT's network rollouts, I don't see them being ready in 2012 sadly. Digicel on the hand is installing a lot of equipment and seems to be way ahead of where TSTT is at this point.

agreeing with the points in blue.....However certain elements of the cell tower upgrade CAN be reused- and certain parts cant.....WRT to the cost, it can be done....TSTT annual profit is millions upon millions....also the tower must also still be downward compatible with normal cell phones - phones that just send / receive a call and SMS.

TSTT can do it but as someone rightfully said...they waiting for someone to drop the bombshell then they will do it....

Fully agree with your points there as well.

I just wanted to let people know that telecomm work isn't simple plug and play. It's real hardcore engineering which is why companies like Digicel and TSTT have hundreds of Electrical & Computer engineers, dozens of overseas consultants and tones of project managers.

I'm out of the industry now, but I miss the fast pace and constant challenge it provided.

That said, TSTT's management (especially in strategic marketing) has been the companies biggest downfall.

It seems their motto is throw as much money on ads as possible without researching what customers really want.

For them to continuously think there is little demand for 3G services is absurd.....however what can you expect with most of marketing has little to no idea about what 3G is (I'm dead serious).

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

Considering that TSTT EDGE is worst than dialup now. Is it yet time for them to move to 4G?

that wimax hot spot in your pocket does not make sense.

Infact I might be happy with just the advanced EDGE that reaches over 512k speeds. Anything better than the dialup EDGE service currently offered.

Some days I do get 120k speeds then other days it can't load a web page. Its terrible and I seriously cannot understand how it is that TATT would actually believe that trinidad isn't ready for internet. WTF

If Digicel can offer the 4G or 3G service would be really good.

If only the EDGE would crawl to a dead stop to the point where not even BBM works. Then maybe TSTT would flip that switch and turn on the 4G.

If the hot spot in your pocket was something like $200 a month or $250 it would be a whole lot more attractive and a lot more people would opt for it. Currently its waay to expensive.

[pablo_tt]

Until TSTT sorts out their financial issues, 4G from them is just what it is right now.....talk

[noshownogo]

My Finger is on the switch, just waiting for Digicel to launch first then *click* we on

sh!t just got serious

[tr1ad]

the man come back with he broken record crap again

[PapaC]

Like changes coming soon

Dear Customer, we are currently performing network upgrades.If your phone switches to 'SOS', please change ur Mobile Network Mode to '2G'. 4 info txt 972 to 247

[Bareback]

Fellas hanging on the edge of their seat for this boy...............

[Devourment]

Fellas hanging on the EDGE of their seat for this boy...............

pun intended?

[X_Factor]

the digicel 4g isnt super fast but its decent...was able to stream some football games over the weekend...from what i understand, its in testing mode and there are ppl who has it right now and it should be released maybe within 2mths
not too sure how the pricing will be however

[jsm1985]

HSPA network now shows up when searching for networks... even on a bmobile SIM

[PARTS2go]

The infrastructure is built already for the 4g