Cheap Subwoofer for SPL

pay1093 · Postby **pay1093** » October 3rd, 2011, 2:18 pm

Hi guys, Im trying to settle a bet with my buddy that I can cross 145db in stock class with one 12'' woofer for under $500.

Ive been talking to a few powersellers on the forum and so far Ive been presented with two choices

1.SoundStream Arachnid

• Dual 2 Ohm 12” Subwoofer
• 250w Continuous Power Handling
• Texture Coat on Stamped Steel Basket
• Butyl-Rubber Surround
• 2” Dual 2 Ohm Voice Coil
• Quick Disconnect Wire Terminal
• Poly Cotton Spider
• 75 Oz Magnet w/ Vented Back Plate
• Laser Etched Logo on Poly Dust Cap
• 87dB Efficiency

2.Pioneer TS-W258

* Sensitivity: 90 dB
* RMS Power Range : 350 Watts
* Peak Power Handling: 1200 Watts
* Impedance: Dual 2 Ohm
* Low Frequency response: 20 Hz
* High Frequency Response: 450 Hz
* Diameter: 10 Inch

Features
Power Handling

* Watts MAX. Music Power: 1200 Watts
* Watts Nominal Power Handling: 350 Watts

Features

* Size: 10"
* Woofer Cone Material: Interlaced Basalt/Carbon Fiber Reinforced IMPP Cone
* Woofer Cone Design: Cone Reinforcement Arcs
* Surround: Wide Roll, Three-Layer Fiber Woven Radial
* Voice Coil: 4-Layer, Long Voice Coil
* Voice Coil Wire: Copper
* Voice Coil Bobbin: Phenol Resin Coated Glass Cloth
* Damper (Spider): Conex
* Damper Ring: Yes
* Top Plate: Standard
* Projected Pole Yoke with Vented Pole:
* Magnet Construction: Double Mass High-Power (74oz)
* Basket Design: Stamped Basket with Magnet Cover
* Gasket: ABS
* Wire Terminals: Integrated Single-Sided Silver Compression Terminals

Which woofer do you think would be the better driver for me to use? My amp give approximately 1000wrms@ 4ohm and I have a 90amp alternator. Vehicle is an SUV.

ChristianRD · Postby **ChristianRD** » October 3rd, 2011, 3:00 pm

Pioneer 308, watch your gains.

doublestenns · Postby **doublestenns** » October 3rd, 2011, 3:17 pm

i dont know the price of this one but it shoud not be over $500.00

http://www.audiopipe.com/products/subwo ... -qr12.html

Woofer Size 12”
Power (P.M.P.O) 900 Watts
Power (R.M.S) 450 Watts
Frequency Resp. 22-1000Hz
Sensitivity 95dB
Voice Coil 2.5”
Mounting Depth 153mm (6.03”)
Impedance 2x4 Ohms
Magnet Φ 156x17x2 (82 Oz)

unknown person · Postby **unknown person** » October 3rd, 2011, 7:22 pm

try it with a funky pup....easy point to prove...lol

Postby **- Rovin's car audio -** » October 3rd, 2011, 8:09 pm

id try it with a pio or audio pipe ....

DE AUDIO · Postby **DE AUDIO** » October 3rd, 2011, 8:38 pm

We have some nice options to consider for $500.00

High-end brands currently on special close-out.

DE AUDIO
734-5350
652-6402
www.deaudiott.com

3stagevtec · Postby **3stagevtec** » October 3rd, 2011, 9:52 pm

I never played with those new model Audiopipe subs, but the older gen subs were da bomb! especially for SPL..

What SUV?
1000Wrms, 1 12" - I'd bet against ya!

Please make a thread showing the progress you made with your endeavor.. Long time I haven't seen anyone post something SPL related..

Good luck!

pay1093 · Postby **pay1093** » October 3rd, 2011, 10:43 pm

DE AUDIO wrote:We have some nice options to consider for $500.00

High-end brands currently on special close-out.

DE AUDIO
734-5350
652-6402
http://www.deaudiott.com

Was looking at the AA option you had but its not the right ohm.

if you can PM me something that is either single 4ohm or dual 2ohm in my budget would be nice.

3stagevtec wrote:I never played with those new model Audiopipe subs, but the older gen subs were da bomb! especially for SPL..

What SUV?
1000Wrms, 1 12" - I'd bet against ya!

Please make a thread showing the progress you made with your endeavor.. Long time I haven't seen anyone post something SPL related..

Good luck!

Thanks, Ill be pairing up with another tuner so he would post a build-log.

viking1705 · Postby **viking1705** » October 3rd, 2011, 11:09 pm

audiopipe works we have one of the newer ones with the diamond looking thing it does 145+ on a normal day.Did 144.4 yest in the show because we didnt have line drive the pre amp was damaged so we used deck to amp straight and had to rewire in the show so we didnt get to change cross points or eq on the deck.Still took first place in stock1 though,

pay1093 · Postby **pay1093** » October 3rd, 2011, 11:16 pm

viking1705 wrote:audiopipe works we have one of the newer ones with the diamond looking thing it does 145+ on a normal day.Did 144.4 yest in the show because we didnt have line drive the pre amp was damaged so we used deck to amp straight and had to rewire in the show so we didnt get to change cross points or eq on the deck.Still took first place in stock1 though,

Nice, what kinda power/ car type you guys had?

And how do you like the audiopipe to the Soundstream xpro's and pios subs?

southside connections · Postby **southside connections** » October 4th, 2011, 12:04 am

audiopipe txx-ap lines(candy cones)

900-1200wrms on sub, 144.4db

3stagevtec · Postby **3stagevtec** » October 4th, 2011, 1:16 am

The sad thing is the TXX AP models are over $500.. The 600Wrms 10" sells for around $700 new.. not sure how much the 12"s go for..

viking1705 wrote:audiopipe works we have one of the newer ones with the diamond looking thing it does 145+ on a normal day.Did 144.4 yest in the show because we didnt have line drive the pre amp was damaged so we used deck to amp straight and had to rewire in the show so we didnt get to change cross points or eq on the deck.Still took first place in stock1 though,

Single 12"? Nice score!!

southside connections · Postby **southside connections** » October 4th, 2011, 9:12 am

yea boi rene, single 12 "

could be better though, but it is a musical box, so i can't expect much better

pay1093 · Postby **pay1093** » October 14th, 2011, 9:06 pm

I have a question, how important is x-max for spl?

southside connections · Postby **southside connections** » October 15th, 2011, 9:16 am

far from it^^

high xmax reduces efficiency heavily, unless you're building for bass race , bass boxing ect

spl people think is how much pressure can be built in a car, if that was the case everyone playing 20hz tones would be making the highest scores

spl is the intensity of a wavelength acting on the pressure sensor's diaphragm, and once used correctly it's possible to hit a high score from lower power

do some searching on the forum, you'll find a thread with all your answers

3stagevtec · Postby **3stagevtec** » October 15th, 2011, 10:10 am

southside connections wrote:far from it^^

high xmax reduces efficiency heavily, unless you're building for bass race , bass boxing ect

spl people think is how much pressure can be built in a car, if that was the case everyone playing 20hz tones would be making the highest scores

spl is the intensity of a wavelength acting on the pressure sensor's diaphragm, and once used correctly it's possible to hit a high score from lower power

do some searching on the forum, you'll find a thread with all your answers

I know that which you speak of.. lol

SPL is all about having fun and experimenting!

pay1093 · Postby **pay1093** » October 15th, 2011, 10:12 am

Which thread is that?

3stagevtec · Postby **3stagevtec** » October 15th, 2011, 1:53 pm

pay1093 wrote:Which thread is that?

http://www.trinituner.com/v3/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=255054&hilit=

scroll 1/3 the way down the page and look for 'SPL ENCLOSURE GUIDELINES'..

pay1093 · Postby **pay1093** » October 15th, 2011, 5:06 pm

3stagevtec wrote:
pay1093 wrote:Which thread is that?

http://www.trinituner.com/v3/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=255054&hilit=

scroll 1/3 the way down the page and look for 'SPL ENCLOSURE GUIDELINES'..

AWSOME!

Thanks, much help