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A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby Greypatch » March 31st, 2011, 7:17 am

Seems there is no legal ground to revoke his appointment.


There is another option though.

The other commissioners CAN RESIGN leaving him alone.

The president will have no option but to re appoint a NEW JSC.

(some ppl have no shame whe)

So commissioners if Nizam stays alluh could leave. 8-)

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby link » March 31st, 2011, 7:22 am

but d commissioners don't hve a problem with 'niz'...is d police
.
if u remove everybody dem corruption boss hve probs with...what do u hve ???

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby eliteauto » March 31st, 2011, 7:29 am

link wrote:but d commissioners don't hve a problem with 'niz'...is d police
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if u remove everybody dem corruption boss hve probs with...what do u hve ???

FREE REIGN LIKE PNM CAUSED...................WHICH IS WHY WE IN THIS DEEP SHEIT NOW



what stupidness you talking, it's a lot of the population/Government/other PSC Commissioners that have an issue with Nizam, don't try to obfuscate the racial statements by linking corruption and the PNM to it...read a newspaper or two

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby zoom rader » March 31st, 2011, 8:23 am

eliteauto .
What are the reasons that there are few indo trinis in the upper ranks of the Police force?

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby ronsin1 » March 31st, 2011, 8:26 am

zoom rader wrote:eliteauto .
What are the reasons that there are few indo trinis in the upper ranks of the Police force?


It is simple the volume of indo trini's that apply is less than that of afro trini's

With in the study that was done this point also came up in the final report.

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby Rainman » March 31st, 2011, 8:26 am

link wrote:but d commissioners don't hve a problem with 'niz'...is d police
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if u remove everybody dem corruption boss hve probs with...what do u hve ???

FREE REIGN LIKE PNM CAUSED...................WHICH IS WHY WE IN THIS DEEP SHEIT NOW



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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby memphis78644 » March 31st, 2011, 8:30 am

ok say they remove nizam an put an outsider not a trinidadian an he give the same report wat would they do?

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby pugboy » March 31st, 2011, 8:31 am

yeah but them other commissioners not going to give up the little stipend they collecting

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby zoom rader » March 31st, 2011, 9:17 am

ronsin1 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:eliteauto .
What are the reasons that there are few indo trinis in the upper ranks of the Police force?


It is simple the volume of indo trini's that apply is less than that of afro trini's

With in the study that was done this point also came up in the final report.

Which study is this? Does it state the number of Indos that applied and failed exam,interviews ect?
We are speaking of the upper managent Police force and not the normal police.

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby zcarz » March 31st, 2011, 10:37 am

zoom rader wrote:
ronsin1 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:eliteauto .
What are the reasons that there are few indo trinis in the upper ranks of the Police force?


It is simple the volume of indo trini's that apply is less than that of afro trini's

With in the study that was done this point also came up in the final report.

Which study is this? Does it state the number of Indos that applied and failed exam,interviews ect?
We are speaking of the upper managent Police force and not the normal police.

there are more afros throughout the ranks, but that's because more afros apply...

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby rollingstock » March 31st, 2011, 11:03 am

^^^^ steups afro's not allowed in the police service, hair must be short and cleanly trimmed.

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby memphis78644 » March 31st, 2011, 11:04 am

d only way to fix this is to do a probe,find out who apply,who fail, an why,ask the ppl who apply wat they thing an bring the report to the public.that all dey have to do unless they have sumthing to hide

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby Greypatch » March 31st, 2011, 11:13 am

rollingstock wrote:^^^^ steups afro's not allowed in the police service, hair must be short and cleanly trimmed.



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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby rollingstock » March 31st, 2011, 11:14 am

memphis78644 wrote:d only way to fix this is to do a probe,find out who apply,who fail, an why,ask the ppl who apply wat they thing an bring the report to the public.that all dey have to do unless they have sumthing to hide


That can't work because a large amount of applicant's with impressive resumes are turned down because of background checks. Past & present acquaintances, family members and other sensitive information collected by the Special Branch.

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » March 31st, 2011, 11:18 am

zoom rader wrote:
ronsin1 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:eliteauto .
What are the reasons that there are few indo trinis in the upper ranks of the Police force?


It is simple the volume of indo trini's that apply is less than that of afro trini's

With in the study that was done this point also came up in the final report.

Which study is this? Does it state the number of Indos that applied and failed exam,interviews ect?
We are speaking of the upper managent Police force and not the normal police.

zoom rader a lil bit again you will argue why it don have more indo trinis on the national football or track teams

get real and please take your bigotry elsewhere

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby memphis78644 » March 31st, 2011, 11:31 am

i see the report on d tv, dey give the man a job to do.he did his job give dem his findings an dey vex.i want to kno wat dey vex for? 1 the report? 2 the man? 3 or how he went ab giving the report?

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby 5onDfloor » March 31st, 2011, 11:41 am

zoom rader wrote:eliteauto .
What are the reasons that there are few indo trinis in the upper ranks of the Police force?


Zoomrader what are the resaons there are NO indo Trinis on the National Football team?

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby bushwakka » March 31st, 2011, 11:47 am

take ah read here......dis is de former fight fuh yuh rights lawyer
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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby ek4ever » March 31st, 2011, 11:59 am

The only problem I have with Nizam is the issue with the police and his failure to comply with police instructions.

Other than that....what's the problem with his statements? Up to now no one refute the facts....the man was just stating what was found. If ppl have an issue with what the man say then the solution is to look into the cause and highlight that.

Maybe he could've put it across in better language but facts are facts.....if racial imbalance at the senior levels of the police service negatively affects the performance of the service then it's an issue to be addressed....but that first has to be proven. My issue with what was said is really what was its purpose?

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby RIPEBREDFRUIT » March 31st, 2011, 12:21 pm

5onDfloor wrote:
zoom rader wrote:eliteauto .
What are the reasons that there are few indo trinis in the upper ranks of the Police force?


Zoomrader what are the resaons there are NO indo Trinis on the National Football team?



because without a bat in their possession they suck at making contact with balls!

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby K74T » March 31st, 2011, 12:25 pm

Greypatch wrote:
rollingstock wrote:^^^^ steups afro's not allowed in the police service, hair must be short and cleanly trimmed.



:lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby 16 cycles » March 31st, 2011, 12:46 pm

more important questions should be around the detection and conviction rate demonstrated by the people in those positions as well as their ability to manage the resources under them to excel.....

forget race......

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby trini mk5 » March 31st, 2011, 12:50 pm

ek4ever wrote:The only problem I have with Nizam is the issue with the police and his failure to comply with police instructions.

Other than that....what's the problem with his statements? Up to now no one refute the facts....the man was just stating what was found. If ppl have an issue with what the man say then the solution is to look into the cause and highlight that.

Maybe he could've put it across in better language but facts are facts.....if racial imbalance at the senior levels of the police service negatively affects the performance of the service then it's an issue to be addressed....but that first has to be proven. My issue with what was said is really what was its purpose?


He also said or was eluding too, that because their is a majority of negros in the force that is the reason why crime so high and there is so much corruption. Now how the hell he figure that out.
So indian ppl not corrupt...cough..foreignusedcardealers....cough
So it is infact a rascist statement he made. So wat if there is more negros in the service??
I doh complain when i go to the hospitals and see only indians and philipinoes.
This issue is just to play on the small minded people in the country. It has no relevence.

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » March 31st, 2011, 12:50 pm

16 cycles wrote:forget race......
I agree

but it seems simpletons cannot help but to make race an issue.

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby zoom rader » March 31st, 2011, 1:23 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
ronsin1 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:eliteauto .
What are the reasons that there are few indo trinis in the upper ranks of the Police force?


It is simple the volume of indo trini's that apply is less than that of afro trini's

With in the study that was done this point also came up in the final report.

Which study is this? Does it state the number of Indos that applied and failed exam,interviews ect?
We are speaking of the upper managent Police force and not the normal police.

zoom rader a lil bit again you will argue why it don have more indo trinis on the national football or track teams

get real and please take your bigotry elsewhere

Dude I never debated on Indos in sports, and I dont think you want to start a debate on Indos in sports.
Anyway the National Football and Cricket teams are baised on merti and fitness so does all other sports. However can we say the same for the Police and armed forces?

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby tr1ad » March 31st, 2011, 1:26 pm

aye Duane
as yuh bring up that

how come no indian playing for trinidad football team?

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby zoom rader » March 31st, 2011, 1:32 pm

tr1ad wrote:aye Duane
as yuh bring up that

how come no indian playing for trinidad football team?

Becuase in National sports teams you want the best member baised on fitness and merti.
With the police force its baised on exams and interviewing process. So its seems indos are dunce and cant pass an exam or interview.

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby nareshseep » March 31st, 2011, 1:39 pm

zoom rader wrote:
tr1ad wrote:aye Duane
as yuh bring up that

how come no indian playing for trinidad football team?

Becuase in National sports teams you want the best member baised on fitness and merti.
With the police force its baised on exams and interviewing process. So its seems are indos are dunce and cant pass an exam or interview.


Yup thats true is real indian that does be in gangs, play basketball, listen to rap... that they dont focus on thier academics

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby zoom rader » March 31st, 2011, 1:51 pm

To rest of Clowns that want to know the real reason why Indos cant play football very well.Its baised on the Indo genetics.Indos do not have alot of fast twitch mucle fibers.Fast twitch mucle fiber is for quick burst of speed as needed in football and sprint events.
However indos have moslty slow twitch muscle fibers which make them more suited for endurance type sports Events such as endurance running,road cycling ect

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Re: A Solution to the Nizam issue

Postby eliteauto » March 31st, 2011, 2:08 pm

the current Executive of the Service would have applied between 1974 and 1986 give or take, maybe they should do a study on the amt of Indo-Trinis who applied then?

Compare that to the amt that applied between 1999 and 2008, see where they are now (Cpl & Sgt) see how many are currently perusing degrees and intend to stay till retirement age.

Forget that Indo Trinis currently make up 51% of the population, instead determine their % within the Service and make you comparisons there.

Where do we stop? Are the Indo-Trinis who see truth in Nizam statement and agree wholeheartedly with it prepared to accept parity in areas of the Public Service that are currently Indo biased?

Lastly I have never heard a single person ever call a station, report a crime, greeted or otherwise interacted with the Police and seen them as anything other that Police Officers, once you put on that uniform you are nothing less than a member of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service and expected to serve all in the course of your duty, there has always been some cliquish behaviour amongst different groups in the Service but that goes out the window when on the beat, people need to be careful of their utterances

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