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Re: Tertiary Education Funding to be SEVERELY cut???

Postby streetbeastINC. » July 15th, 2010, 7:40 pm

pioneer wrote:This is a good move, all these institutions being flooded with degenerates who show no sort of broughtupsey and bring disrepute to the institutions.

Survival of the fittest, can't afford tertiary education?...then too bad.



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Re: Tertiary Education Funding to be SEVERLY cut???

Postby RBphoto » July 16th, 2010, 8:54 am

Aaron 2NR wrote:oh well....no loss for me yes..my parents worked hard and paid for me to go to university....


When you are born with a silver spoon in your mouth, you can make statements like this and dismiss the good that GATE is doing.

As far as I am aware, if you do poorly under gate, you will not recieve any more funding.... not so?

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Re: Tertiary Education Funding to be SEVERELY cut???

Postby mitsu4life » July 16th, 2010, 9:15 am

You need to maintain 80% class attendance, if you don't complete the course/degree you received gate funding for you cannot re-apply for it until you have either finished and PASSED the course/degree or pay the government back.

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Re: Tertiary Education Funding to be SEVERELY cut???

Postby nervewrecker » July 16th, 2010, 9:59 am

mitsu4life wrote:You need to maintain 80% class attendance, if you don't complete the course/degree you received gate funding for you cannot re-apply for it until you have either finished and PASSED the course/degree or pay the government back.


& who monitors this?

I know plenty students below the 80% class attendance......hell, I know some with under 50%, I even know one girl that attended 2 classes in one whole semester.

I have seen many enroll & drop out when things get tough / came back / fail / drop out / do next course etc & none have paid back one red cent.

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Re: Tertiary Education Funding to be SEVERLY cut???

Postby Aaron 2NR » July 16th, 2010, 10:30 am

crossdrilled wrote:
Aaron 2NR wrote:oh well....no loss for me yes..my parents worked hard and paid for me to go to university....


When you are born with a silver spoon in your mouth, you can make statements like this and dismiss the good that GATE is doing.

As far as I am aware, if you do poorly under gate, you will not recieve any more funding.... not so?




no my friend, my parents sacrificed a lot for both myself and my brother to attend university....

i still stand by my statements that abuse was taking place and it should be clamped down....

I know a few people who started courses, dropped out and did other courses AND received GATE for all.......

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Re: Tertiary Education Funding to be SEVERELY cut???

Postby ek4ever » July 16th, 2010, 10:34 am

RASC here's a better way to spend your time.....go through all the projects undertaken by the last PNM administration....check all the cost overruns of those that finish and those that still need finishing.....check all the last minute deals and contracts they made and the total amount of expenditure they've committed this new administration too.....costs for all the audits that will have to be done.....costs of losses being accrued on property not being used for gov't offices although money was spent to build them....costs of new subsidies....cost of losses on equipment purchased but not put into service.....then when you have a total of all this come back and talk some sense when you realise what could've been done with all that money.

Talk now

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Re: Tertiary Education Funding to be SEVERELY cut???

Postby Chemical » July 16th, 2010, 10:52 am

Let us not forget ALL the new equipment Caroni purchased before the wind up.....where did all those new harvestors go ? Caroni bought a set of new Land Rover jeeps...where did that go ?.....the RUM STOCK...where did that go ?

The thousands of Oak Barrels...where did that go ?

New equip purchased for the boilers...where did that go & all the steel that was gutted out from the factories when steel was in high demand & was fetching high prices?

I hope PNM rotts in their political grave for what they did to the people of this nation.

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Postby Chemical » July 16th, 2010, 10:55 am

Further more I'll drop my pants like my Avatar & not only S hit on thier grave but to piss on it also :?

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Re: Tertiary Education Funding to be SEVERELY cut???

Postby nervewrecker » July 16th, 2010, 10:58 am

next election PNM going back in power, history repeats itself. Another party rebuilds the country after the PNM run it into the ground & then PNM comes back to run it down again, its a cycle.

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Postby brickman » July 16th, 2010, 11:01 am

Don't say those things fellas!You will call down upon youselves the wrath of the 3 blind mice & be torn apart by their balliser bombardment!
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Postby mitsu4life » July 16th, 2010, 11:12 am

slacker_jack wrote:
mitsu4life wrote:You need to maintain 80% class attendance, if you don't complete the course/degree you received gate funding for you cannot re-apply for it until you have either finished and PASSED the course/degree or pay the government back.


& who monitors this?

I know plenty students below the 80% class attendance......hell, I know some with under 50%, I even know one girl that attended 2 classes in one whole semester.

I have seen many enroll & drop out when things get tough / came back / fail / drop out / do next course etc & none have paid back one red cent.


You may have a point there, my friend dropped out because he couldn't make exam fee's and he just finished paying them back, I'm not sure if he voluntarily did it or they informed him that he had to.

I for one NEED gate otherwise i simply wont be able to afford the tuition fees + exam fees....in february i hadda find approx 276 pounds X 4 in exams fee's as well as SBCS administrative fee's and text books.

I sure as hell always attend all my classes and make sure an pass all my exams and i don't mean a bare pass i try hard to be ontop.

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Re: Tertiary Education Funding to be SEVERELY cut???

Postby nervewrecker » July 16th, 2010, 12:18 pm

same here, I know the blood I sweat blood in the hot sun to make $$$ to pay to go to school, god bless the day GATE was introduced. it must have some kind of disaster for me to not attend a class, I went through rain, flood, protest, bomb on fredrick street just to make it, went the day the soca warriors played last WC only to find nobody in class. I dont only pass, I put in the extra effort to be able to keep up & I darn well get some of the highest passes in my class.
It really hurts me to see all these newbies walking around wasting time & not knowing the value of what they getting free.

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Postby RASC » July 16th, 2010, 12:29 pm

ek4ever wrote:RASC here's a better way to spend your time.....go through all the projects undertaken by the last PNM administration....check all the cost overruns of those that finish and those that still need finishing.....check all the last minute deals and contracts they made and the total amount of expenditure they've committed this new administration too.....costs for all the audits that will have to be done.....costs of losses being accrued on property not being used for gov't offices although money was spent to build them....costs of new subsidies....cost of losses on equipment purchased but not put into service.....then when you have a total of all this come back and talk some sense when you realise what could've been done with all that money.

Talk now


Okay, I will talk for your sake.
For all you typed above...I have one question.

WHO IS IN POWER?

Thank you, have a great weekend.

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Re: Tertiary Education Funding to be SEVERELY cut???

Postby Aaron 2NR » July 16th, 2010, 12:37 pm

mitsu4life wrote:
slacker_jack wrote:
mitsu4life wrote:You need to maintain 80% class attendance, if you don't complete the course/degree you received gate funding for you cannot re-apply for it until you have either finished and PASSED the course/degree or pay the government back.


& who monitors this?

I know plenty students below the 80% class attendance......hell, I know some with under 50%, I even know one girl that attended 2 classes in one whole semester.

I have seen many enroll & drop out when things get tough / came back / fail / drop out / do next course etc & none have paid back one red cent.


You may have a point there, my friend dropped out because he couldn't make exam fee's and he just finished paying them back, I'm not sure if he voluntarily did it or they informed him that he had to.

I for one NEED gate otherwise i simply wont be able to afford the tuition fees + exam fees....in february i hadda find approx 276 pounds X 4 in exams fee's as well as SBCS administrative fee's and text books.

I sure as hell always attend all my classes and make sure an pass all my exams and i don't mean a bare pass i try hard to be ontop.




I like the point you brought up....you have exam fees to pay.....which contradicts what the PNM advertised during their campaign about free education......Institutions other than UWI, UTT and Costatt have exam fees and books to buy.....GATE covers ONLY tuition.....

when i started my masters, GATE covered $10,000 per academic year...1 module is $8000 excluding books and exam fees.......

You have a lot of money to shell out and therefore you would ensure you study and pass all your exams....

how many UWI students go semester after semester, skipping exams and just dropping in a medical....
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Re: Tertiary Education Funding to be SEVERELY cut???

Postby nervewrecker » July 16th, 2010, 12:38 pm

^^^

& you expect them to fix everything within the short time they in power so far? what you feel the PP have? some kind of majic wand that they wave & all the PNM BS goes away? not to mention they dont have the amount of $$$ at hand that the PNM did.

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Postby RASC » July 16th, 2010, 12:50 pm

slacker_jack wrote:^^^

& you expect them to fix everything within the short time they in power so far?


No one has said that.The PP needs to stop blaming others and get the job done. No one is asking for miracles.

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Postby TechArt » July 16th, 2010, 1:36 pm

How about actually implementing the REAL gate program and not do like the retards of the last government. Gate was intended to be nothing more than a polished up "Dollar for dollar program", meaning that it was exactly the same. You were suppose to pay half of the cost for tertiary, with state taking up the rest. There was however a part exactly like the dollar for dollar program where if you were unable to afford the cost the state would stand 100%. Now here comes the part where the ^&M did sheit IMHO, they made it free for all. So if you loaded or your broke you getting it free, so those with the cash placed that money towards cars( some of which killed their children), nice housing, large allowances ( To buy alcohol n drugs )etc. This created a spinning effect of the economy, more loose cash to put it simply was on the prowl. Housing around UWI took off like a rocket (you had the money to pay for better housing for your child, who in turn houses a BF or GF who eats the food you pack and send for your child), businesses sought to soak up the cash flow with increase in food prices, cars and other stuff. The main reason the middle class and lower middle class didn't complain is because they now had a couple hundred thousand to firetruck up, the intention of gate was good but as always someone in office has better ideas. So I hope parents haven't fawked all their children education funds

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Re: Tertiary Education Funding to be SEVERELY cut???

Postby RadeonHD » July 16th, 2010, 2:43 pm

if you go to private schools like SAM and SBCS you need to pay the pounds. Which is about $10,000 TT a year even with GATE.

GATE only pays the tuition. So we should keep this in mind.

And why are we still doing British degrees? isn't it better to get an American education since our dollar is tied to the US dollar and therefore makes sense since every time the British currency raises we need to pay more?

I asked a few people this who are self proclaimed scholars and they told me its cause British education is the best in the world.

Thats funny because as far as I know Nvidia, AMD and Intel's chief scientists are graduates from either MIT USA, IIT (In India) and California institute of Technology USA.

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Postby mitsu4life » July 16th, 2010, 3:01 pm

RadeonHD wrote:if you go to private schools like SAM and SBCS you need to pay the pounds. Which is about $10,000 TT a year even with GATE.

GATE only pays the tuition. So we should keep this in mind.

And why are we still doing British degrees? isn't it better to get an American education since our dollar is tied to the US dollar and therefore makes sense since every time the British currency raises we need to pay more?

I asked a few people this who are self proclaimed scholars and they told me its cause British education is the best in the world.

Thats funny because as far as I know Nvidia, AMD and Intel's chief scientists are graduates from either MIT USA, IIT (In India) and California institute of Technology USA.


Dude MIT is on a whole different level, if i studied for my entire life i still wouldn't be able to get in lol

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Re: Tertiary Education Funding to be SEVERELY cut???

Postby ek4ever » July 18th, 2010, 1:52 am

RASC wrote:
slacker_jack wrote:^^^

& you expect them to fix everything within the short time they in power so far?


No one has said that.The PP needs to stop blaming others and get the job done. No one is asking for miracles.


There's absolutely nothing wrong with the PP pointing out all the crap the PNM did .... in fact they need to continue to bring to light every bit of bobol those fools did while in power....the only people who seem to have problems with this is PNM supporters.

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Re: Tertiary Education Funding to be SEVERELY cut???

Postby eyephone » July 18th, 2010, 10:34 am

RASC wrote:
ek4ever wrote:RASC here's a better way to spend your time.....go through all the projects undertaken by the last PNM administration....check all the cost overruns of those that finish and those that still need finishing.....check all the last minute deals and contracts they made and the total amount of expenditure they've committed this new administration too.....costs for all the audits that will have to be done.....costs of losses being accrued on property not being used for gov't offices although money was spent to build them....costs of new subsidies....cost of losses on equipment purchased but not put into service.....then when you have a total of all this come back and talk some sense when you realise what could've been done with all that money.

Talk now


Okay, I will talk for your sake.
For all you typed above...I have one question.

WHO IS IN POWER?

Thank you, have a great weekend.





So you're saying that the PNM is absolved because they lost?

You've clearly adoped rowley's attitude where he opens his mouth for everything except for what HIS party did!

rowllley is just a different jockey shorts coverin the same ass.

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Re: Tertiary Education Funding to be SEVERELY cut???

Postby Rx » July 18th, 2010, 6:17 pm

oh fork .. I hope this is just rumours ....

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Re: Tertiary Education Funding to be SEVERELY cut???

Postby RASC » July 18th, 2010, 11:05 pm

eyephone wrote:
RASC wrote:
ek4ever wrote:RASC here's a better way to spend your time.....go through all the projects undertaken by the last PNM administration....check all the cost overruns of those that finish and those that still need finishing.....check all the last minute deals and contracts they made and the total amount of expenditure they've committed this new administration too.....costs for all the audits that will have to be done.....costs of losses being accrued on property not being used for gov't offices although money was spent to build them....costs of new subsidies....cost of losses on equipment purchased but not put into service.....then when you have a total of all this come back and talk some sense when you realise what could've been done with all that money.

Talk now


Okay, I will talk for your sake.
For all you typed above...I have one question.

WHO IS IN POWER?

Thank you, have a great weekend.





So you're saying that the PNM is absolved because they lost?

You've clearly adoped rowley's attitude where he opens his mouth for everything except for what HIS party did!

rowllley is just a different jockey shorts coverin the same ass.


I notice you're talking in PAST tense there. You mind getting... [elephantman]Up To Di Times[/elephantman]

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Postby eyephone » July 18th, 2010, 11:31 pm

My sincerest apologies. Carry on.

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Re: Tertiary Education Funding to be SEVERELY cut???

Postby brickman » July 19th, 2010, 1:03 am

I guess when certain people keep bringing up ramesh & panday,they speaking in present tense not past tense??

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Postby RASC » July 19th, 2010, 6:43 am

brickman wrote:I guess when certain people keep bringing up ramesh & panday,they speaking in present tense not past tense??


Where did you see anyone mention Ramesh or Panday recently on the forum?

:?

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Re: Tertiary Education Funding to be SEVERELY cut???

Postby teems1 » July 19th, 2010, 8:12 am

@Rasc

what's good for the goose is good for the gander

you're allowed to bring up Ish and the airport scandal, but no one is allowed to bring up the last administration's cost overruns because "it's in the past"?

seriously, you sometimes make good points, but shoot yourself in the foot every time and negate any logical sense you made with your zealot like loyalty to the PNM.

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Re: Tertiary Education Funding to be SEVERELY cut???

Postby brickman » July 19th, 2010, 9:29 am

RASC wrote:
brickman wrote:I guess when certain people keep bringing up ramesh & panday,they speaking in present tense not past tense??


Where did you see anyone mention Ramesh or Panday recently on the forum?

:?

Ohhh gosh,you made me smile this morning!!You write so much pnm BS & propaganda everyday that you forget all the crap you & the other 2 blind mice spew!Maybe you need some stamina?
You continue to talk,we'll continue to laugh at you! :-D
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Re: Tertiary Education Funding to be SEVERELY cut???

Postby Goolie » July 19th, 2010, 10:27 am

just to clear the air on one matter... UWI has a Grade Point Average (GPA) system where you get a certain number of 'points' for each course you do and PASS meaning you have to pass the courses to earn credits. If your GPA falls below 0.75 (This happens if you fail or perform badly in many courses hence earn very few credits) you are immediately issued a 'Required to Withdraw' (RTW) letter. If at the end of your next semester you do not improve your GPA, YOU ARE KICKED THE FIRETRUCK OUT OF UWI. Forget about the 80% attendance, thats BS.

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