The comprehensive 4age thread

Raziel · Postby **Raziel** » June 30th, 2004, 6:23 pm

NickJr, I think he was really looking at the 4A-GE, the 3S-GTE has almost unlimited potential, like most Turbo engines, a few tweaks and 50 - 75 Bhp easy. Some upgrades and the sky is the limit.

Remember the 3S-GTE comes in several generations, towards the end they were making over 265bhp stock. Alot for a FWD application.

The 3S-GE is the non Turbo 2L (like in the Altezza) with VVTi, can tweak, but again to get big HP, add a turbo (kits are expensive), so I think the S-GTE is more sensible.

NickJr. · Postby **NickJr.** » June 30th, 2004, 6:28 pm

It sounded like he was looking at the 3SGTE, but still good reading for anyone interested. On page 2 I have the text for the 4AG's, also some good reading

Raziel · Postby **Raziel** » June 30th, 2004, 6:52 pm

NickJr .... no doubt about the good reading ....

cdmg · Postby **cdmg** » July 1st, 2004, 12:17 am

Good info Raziel and Nick Jr. Nick, i was talkiong about the 4age 20v specifically. there is precious little information available online about modding it. I think that I will have to start scouring some Toyota forums.
Raziel, $300+ Cdn is not too bad for a 15 to 20HP gain.

TURBOT · Postby **TURBOT** » July 1st, 2004, 1:44 am

cdmg wha plugs u runnin???? and what oil we runnin castrol synthec

daNdAdDa · Postby **daNdAdDa** » July 1st, 2004, 7:08 am

In my opinion , if u wanna get some serious HP from a 20 valver it's not worth the money you will have to put out....

a 3S would be the way to go and if u still wanna up the power that engine would not cost an arm and ah leg to upgrade.....

Raziel that site u posted not bad AT ALL pallie.....15 - 20 HP gains.....dat's pretty damn good........wonder if we could get a group buy goin for u 20 valvers...i have a friend who would definately be interested....

Postby **AllTrac** » July 1st, 2004, 9:40 am

THE BLACK TOP HEAD IS THE BEST DESIGN STOCK HEAD WHEN COMPARED TO ALL 4AGE STOCK HEADS!

Raziel · Postby **Raziel** » July 1st, 2004, 4:11 pm

Cdmg, the guy at Tedcomponents is actually really good to talk to, if you are looking at just moderate gains, done piece by piece (as budget allows) it's not bad.

Sully · Postby **Sully** » July 1st, 2004, 9:12 pm

How would the blacktop respond to a 25 wet shot? That would give you some of the performance increase you're looking for.

TURBOT · Postby **TURBOT** » July 2nd, 2004, 1:00 am

i was thinkin like a 50 jed
but u may hadda retard timin a lil

Mitsu power · Postby **Mitsu power** » July 2nd, 2004, 2:26 pm

^^ the dam block has forge and oil cool pistons with beef up connecting rods high flow oil pump and a bullet proof block what allyuha takin about 25 - 50 shot is 100 t0 150 shot inn he ass :twisted:

NickJr. · Postby **NickJr.** » July 2nd, 2004, 4:42 pm

Yuh know how long turbot asking what plugs Sully and cdmg running and up to now neither one answer

:lol:

Postby **Dave** » July 2nd, 2004, 4:44 pm

they probably have no idea Jr.

cdmg · Postby **cdmg** » July 2nd, 2004, 5:20 pm

Boy sorry about that. I recently replaced my plugs with Bosch Platinum plugs. I have the box in the car somewhere. I will try to find it and give you the part number. I got the plugs at Carboutique.

NickJr. · Postby **NickJr.** » July 2nd, 2004, 5:24 pm

Boy turbot is a good thing I highlight that for you yes. :lol:

TURBOT · Postby **TURBOT** » July 2nd, 2004, 5:57 pm

heheheh sully answer already

but meh cuz was runnin d platinum plugs and he find the origional denso's (spelling) worked better

TURBOT · Postby **TURBOT** » July 2nd, 2004, 6:01 pm

Mitsu power wrote:^^ the dam block has forge and oil cool pistons with beef up connecting rods high flow oil pump and a bullet proof block what allyuha takin about 25 - 50 shot is 100 t0 150 shot inn he arse

i know bout the oil cooled pistons and stuff but didn't know bout the beefed up rods and bullet proof block

save black top 20 valve we talkin bout here??
and what will you have to do to take a 100 shot ??
and could a automatic tranny handle that??

TURBOT · Postby **TURBOT** » July 2nd, 2004, 6:06 pm

hmm for the 100 shot you have to get a bigget fuel pump?
and is the stock ignition enough to handle that?

Postby **Yeo** » July 2nd, 2004, 7:16 pm

De auto-tranny is yuh weak spot...I suggest a tranny cooler or if yuh have real money, a Level 10 upgrade.....I wouldn't go over a 100 shot Steph. That way u still keep the reliability.

TURBOT · Postby **TURBOT** » July 2nd, 2004, 7:40 pm

hmmmmm well we'd quicker go for the gearbox dan to spen to upgrade d auto
hmm a extra 75 hp or so not soundin too bad and a nitrous kit is about how much hmmm $3000 over there
and i sure u could get cheeper on ebay
not soundin too bad
would see if i could chain up my cuz to get a lil wet kit

Sully · Postby **Sully** » July 2nd, 2004, 8:14 pm

You could get a 50 wet shot for $1400us with a purge valve. Check the Nitrous Express systems, or for a simpler install, a Zex system.

TURBOT · Postby **TURBOT** » July 2nd, 2004, 10:44 pm

jed i does see wet kits for 500 us from nx
1400 us das ROBBERY not even ig direct port sooo expencive
d only thing i doh think dey have d purge kit but we not into d rice flam thing we could jus use one lil spray and clean it out instead of that and save $$