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Postby Swisha » January 27th, 2010, 5:10 pm

the level of excuses apple fanboys make to defend over hyped products is truly amazing yes.

fanboyism FTL :lol:

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Postby Bezman » January 27th, 2010, 5:14 pm

well you here making and argument too soo you loose too ;)
I'll see you in a few months when you getting one, just like the iPhone a few years ago ;)

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Postby rodfarva » January 27th, 2010, 5:17 pm

Bezman wrote:
rodfarva wrote:
Bezman wrote:and after watching the video on Apples site: http://www.apple.com/ipad/#video

you'll see, all the apps for the ipad are waaaaaay beyond the iphone apps, so i think iPhones apps will now be scaled down iPad apps ;)


that cant happen unless the ipad actually outsells the iphone and ipod touch

they'll always develop software for the most popular platform first


watch the video and then talk please, its the same OS

the mail app, contacts, maps (no longer google) and all the original apps are already differnt for the iPad - same OS though ;), just as some features work for the itouch, 3g, 3gs and 2g, apps will be able to tell if its an iPad and you'll get the added features ;)

developers are going to develop more advanced apps for the iPad.. its got more real estate on the screen, so more features will be added.. i am certain of this.


what im saying is, that those extra features are not guaranteed....the only time you'll see 'extra features' being built into apps is if the ipad is actually successful. If apple releases the ipad and the sales are very poor, i can guarantee that you wont see much ipad enhanced apps out there

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Postby ImprezaDriver » January 27th, 2010, 5:19 pm

ipad=oversized iphone

lulz.

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Postby Bezman » January 27th, 2010, 5:23 pm

those extra features are already built into the newest iPhone OS, they wouldn't work on the iPhone, but are there for the iPad install..

haha, i bet you the iPad sells over 500,000 in the first couple months ;)

(and i wouldn't be surprised if it may actually double that when the 3G unlocked version comes out)

I work for a company that makes an iPhone app for TV stations in the US (search Lex18 in the app store for an example of one), and they are already asking about expanding the capabilities of the apps for the ipad before it was even shown.. now that it has been, I am sure the requests are going to come pouring in..

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Postby d_l_p_87 » January 27th, 2010, 5:36 pm

hey, i have the blackberry internet service, and i wana use that sim on my iphone, is there anyway that i can use this edge internet service on my iphone?

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Postby Trinifieds » January 27th, 2010, 5:39 pm

^^ Dont think so as BB internet is not the usual EDGE that bmobile/digicel offers

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Postby Swisha » January 27th, 2010, 5:39 pm

Bezman wrote:well you here making and argument too soo you loose too ;)
I'll see you in a few months when you getting one, just like the iPhone a few years ago ;)


the iphone revolutionized the smart phone industry making it a must have phone. because of it, other companies stepped up their game and made better smart phones so props to Apple for that.
however the current iphone no longer reigns supreme with its stale OS and far less features than newer smart phones.

i look forward to the next version for sure.

this (max)ipad revolutionizes nothing. it's just a glorified iphone.

do...not...want

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » January 27th, 2010, 5:50 pm

Bezman is correct
despite the naysayers here who are prolly awing themselves with an N97 and feeling chippy, the iPad will outsell any and all contenders

I am excited though to see what the 3rd party developers will do with this puppy and its fast processor.

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Postby Bezman » January 27th, 2010, 5:54 pm

well if Duane say i right, iWin

fanboyism 1 vs N97 0

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Postby st7 » January 27th, 2010, 6:13 pm

ok so... another tablet... big whoop.

in 2 years iTampon gonna be coming out so ah waitin for dat

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Postby Trinifieds » January 27th, 2010, 6:54 pm

^^ it will be more streamlined for sure :lol:

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Postby M_2NR » January 27th, 2010, 6:57 pm

TBH i am a bit disappointed. I really wanted to see what iphone 4.0. If that is it, well thats great. I followed this thing in class while my lecturer was going on about concrete experiments. Odd thing is, i followed what was going on in class plus was in touch thanks to engadget :lol: while everyone else was asleep.

iPhone will NEVER get flash natively from Apple. /fin on that issue.

As bezman said, HTML5 is that way forward.

What im worried about is what bezman is saying is true that the iPad is now the standard that apps will be made for, iphones will now run scale downed apps of the ones on the ipad.

wrt to multitasking. They should at least implement it. Backgrounder + Proswitcher is so awesome on the 3GS i dont see why its difficult.
I use it when i need to get a file (from insta..*cough* and safari) and browse and read iFMyLife or PDF's, then check tweetie and facebook or ebuddy.

Now, dont get me wrong. I liked the iPad. I wont be getting one, but i must say it is a great device. No doubt u will be seeing people mimicking stuff from it.

I mean... watch how thin it is...
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more here.. http://iphoneroot.com/ipad-vs-iphone-photos/
and running apps here: http://iphoneroot.com/ipad-software-photos/

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Postby Trinifieds » January 27th, 2010, 7:11 pm

I had the opportunity to spend some hands-on time with the long-awaited Apple iPad tablet after today's much-hyped press event. Unfortunately, I was a bit underwhelmed: I can see a lot of really useful applications for the iPad, but the reality is that it looks and behaves like an iPhone on steroids. And that's not exactly a good thing.

Hardware: Awkward to handle

While the iPad is super slim at only an inch thick, I had some difficulty handling it. At 1.5 pounds, it is too heavy to hold in one hand, which is troublesome if you plan on using it as an e-book reader. Other e-book readers, like Amazon's Kindle 2 or the COOL-ER e-reader, are much lighter in hand and therefore make for a much more comfortable user experience. Using two hands is much more comfortable, but if you're reading a long novel, that could get quite tiresome.

Compared side-by-side, the iPad's 9.7-inch 1024-by-768-pixel LED-backlit display appeared dimmer than my iPhone 3G's. Whites, in particular, looked much brighter on my iPhone. Apple had no comment, however, when I inquired about the difference.

iPad OS: Basically a giant iPhone interface

One of the biggest rumors leading up to the event was that iPhone OS 4.0 would be released in conjunction with the iPad. Instead, the iPad is running iPhone OS 3.2 (which has not been released for actual iPhones yet).

The lack of a fresh, new interface for the iPad is disappointing. There might be some incremental differences between versions 3.1 and 3.2, but to me, the iPad's interface looked exactly like a blown-up version of my iPhone 3G's. And in my opinion, the OS doesn't translate very well from the much smaller iPhone 3G to the iPad. Images, icons, text aren't as crisp as expected on the higher-resolution iPad. It is like watching standard definition on an HDTV; the optimization just isn't there.

Because of the larger display, pretty much all of the native applications we're used to viewing on the iPhone look better on the iPad. Video playback, in particular, is stunning on the iPad, but we're disappointed by the lack of Flash support (though that exclusion wasn't exactly surprising).

As a photo viewer, the iPad shines. Photos looked superb on the iPad's display and it uses all of the familiar multitouch gestures (flick, pinch to zoom) found on the iPhone's photo app. The iPad's photo application is much better than the iPhone's, too.

Touch Keyboard Disappoints

Like the rest of the OS, the touch keyboard is larger version of the iPhone's. But unlike on the iPhone, there's no letter magnification when you press a key. And unsurprisingly, there's no haptic feedback. Basically, you get no physical or visual feedback when you press a key and that's frustrating if you're trying to pound out a long e-mail. The experience, oddly, is akin to typing on the native Android OS' touch keyboard.

Using keyboard in vertical mode, my small hands had difficulty maneuvering around the keyboard. Horizontal mode felt much more natural, but I still made more errors that I would with a physical keyboard.

There is a keyboard dock accessory, which gives you an actual physical keyboard to work with. You can also place it in the iPad Case, which allows you to angle it slightly. This feels much more comfortable than just laying the tablet flat and typing. Both of these items are sold separately, though.

iPhone Apps Don't Fly on iPad

One of the big concerns among developers and users before the iPad's announcement was whether iPhone apps would work on the device. Thankfully, they do, but the experience isn't exactly ideal. You can either view an iPhone app as a small window or doubled to fill the display. I demoed the Assassin's Creed app and was put off by the obvious pixelation. Clearly this an interim fix until actual apps are developed for the iPad. There's a lot of gaming potential for the iPad, but cool 3D graphics game like Assassins Creed just doesn't work on the iPad.

Luckily, the iPad isn't shipping for another 60 days so hopefully more content will be developed by then. Right now, I'm not sold on either the hardware or the software, but excellent, optimized content might change my opinion.


http://www.pcworld.com/article/187956/h ... _ipad.html

Even though I haven't used the iPad yet, I think this guy echoes my sentiment. Especially the last line.

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Postby Bezman » January 27th, 2010, 8:21 pm

keep fighting it boys, you know you want one ;)



on another note..
estimating 4million units sold in first year, over 8 million in 2011:
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10 ... _2011.html


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no iPhone 4.0 OS news yet, the iPad is running 3.2 (iPad only)

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Postby SRASC » January 27th, 2010, 8:28 pm

I too was hoping for some iPhone related material from today's keynote (not just cause of the title of this thread) but because its been a while on that front & I thought that Apple would at least have a response to Google's Nexus One (which on paper is better than the iPhone).
Unfortunately its called the iPad, which I was hoping was not to be the name & it does look like an iPhone on steroids (a 2G to be more precise).
We'll see if Apple has another hit with this one.
Well now they've answered the rumors about phones & now tablets. The only one left as far as I am concerned is are they going to make a game console :?:

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Postby M_2NR » January 27th, 2010, 8:32 pm

Bezman wrote:@corolla_2nr

no iPhone 4.0 OS news yet, the iPad is running 3.2 (iPad only)

ahahh i was reading that. :(

i guess we have to wait until march or something for word on 3.2 or 4.0 iPhone OS.

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Postby SRASC » January 27th, 2010, 8:34 pm

Hopefully we could see "iPad OS 3.2" as a sign of what's to come for iPhone OS 4.0

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Postby Bezman » January 27th, 2010, 8:37 pm

Apple has unleashed iPhone OS 3.2 SDK to developers today to prepare for the launch of the Apple iPad. The new iPhone OS 3.2 only runs on the iPad device and will not run on the iPhone or iPod Touch. The accompanying documents are said to have revealed a number of interesting features about the iPad and the latest version of the iPad operating system.

- External Display Support. iPad applications will be able to display content specifically targeted to an external display connected to the iPad via the Dock connector. This sort of external monitor support has never been allowed with the iPhone SDK.
- File Sharing. A shared file directory is provided that will mount on your Mac or PC. This is presumably how files such as iWork documents will be transferred to and from the iPad. iPad applications will be able to access this shared directory.
- No Multitasking. Only one application runs at a time according to official documentation.
- Universal Apps. There will be support for universal apps that support both iPhone and iPad.

Of course, a lot of questions remain, and we'll certainly hear more as we approach the iPad's ship date.


http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/27/ipa ... titasking/

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Postby SRASC » January 27th, 2010, 8:42 pm

iPhone SDK calls out nonexistent iPad cam, confirms split views and popovers are iPad-specific wrote:iPhone owners holding out hope that OS 3.2 would bring some of these fancy new iPad spoils to their devices might be in for a disappointment, because two of the big ones -- split view and popovers -- are both referred to in Apple's updated human interface guidelines as "iPad-only." Realistically, this shouldn't come as a surprise; both of these UI elements were built to shine on larger displays, and it's hard to say how you could make either one of them work on HVGA -- but it's important for devs to note that heavily investing in these are definitely going to make it difficult to make their apps compatible across all iPhone OS-powered devices. Considering that iPhones will almost certainly continue to dominate iPads for sales volume, we know how we'd be developing.

In other news, running the updated iPhone simulator in iPad mode gives you the option to take photos, which doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense considering that it doesn't have a camera. There are plenty of plausible explanations for the muck-up, but our guess is that Apple's left the vestigial capability on-board since the framework's already in place for the iPhone and there could very well be iPads down the road that have a cam (or two). Follow the break for a shot of the iPad's Address Book imploring you to take a photo -- and savor it, since it's probably the closest you'll actually get to snapping a shot on the device any time soon.

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Postby wheelbarrow » January 27th, 2010, 9:26 pm

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Postby SRASC » January 27th, 2010, 9:44 pm

The just released iPad Emulator contains functionality that suggests the iPad was supposed to have a camera.

Crunchgear found that within the iPad’s contacts application is an “Add Photoâ€

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Postby Trinifieds » January 28th, 2010, 9:18 am

Bezman wrote:keep fighting it boys, you know you want one ;)

BezmanDont get me wrong, I think it is inevitable that I get one and as you said, most people, once they get to play with it they'll want one for sure.

I think the hardware is wonderful (the bezel could have been smaller though) but the software is where its at. Also I'm with Duane when he said he's waiting for the innovative minds to see what this puppy can do.

But for their initial offering, the software is lacking. Who knows how it will progress? But if the iPhone ipsws are anything to go by, we are in for a ride!

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Postby Bezman » January 28th, 2010, 10:34 am

i know you want one bad bad :D

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Postby Trinifieds » January 28th, 2010, 10:46 am

LOL, ok

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Postby Bezman » January 28th, 2010, 11:05 am

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/28/ipad ... r-will-it/


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iPad won't handle GSM voice calls -- or will it?

as the iPad has a mic and speaker, connects over 3G or wifi it can easily do VOIP calls, but can it make calls over GSM? maybe?

I think Apple has left out allot of functionality of the iPad for firmware 4.0 and will announce all this at the new iPhone announcement which should come around the end of march early april (and new iPhone release in June). The 4.0 announcement and debut will be just in time for the iPad to hit stores (60 days from now)

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Postby Bezman » January 28th, 2010, 11:26 am

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Postby Trinifieds » January 30th, 2010, 9:15 am

LOL @2:43

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Postby TURBOT » January 30th, 2010, 9:25 am

My phone tripping out right now , something has to be wrong! It just went 24 hours @ 100% battery life normal usage. :s it now started falling kinda fast tho.

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