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Postby Razkal » August 29th, 2009, 4:25 pm

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Razkal wrote:Hook, yuh have real belly to still be posting in this thread yes :lol:



whatcha mean yo?


the lack of understanding/appreciation in the thread and the stereotyping is pretty annoying :|


*bleh* I've learned to filter it out

Ping and dem playing in Shakers 2nite...some "Big Tuttuts Koomari Orchestra"...methinx Seven Year Itch too, if I'm not mistaken...u passin' een or wha?


was gonna tell u i think 7 year itch playing another night, but forgot dragist is the go-to guy for info on that band :)

i wanna pass in and see tuttuts tho *stifles laughter* :|
i think their name is awesome, everyone wants to see tuttuts :D

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Postby sexy_ke70_chick » August 29th, 2009, 11:13 pm

bootmee wrote:sexy_ke70_chick get yuh dutty stinkin a$$ to ZEN or something similar. There you can hear your dutty ass Jamaican music. Stay away from ROCK vibes WE DONT WANT YOU THERE. :twisted:





:( ... ZEN only plays dutty ass Jamaican music? no rock, soca or indian music? scene :?

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Postby Cjruckus » August 30th, 2009, 12:36 am

bootmee wrote:sexy_ke70_chick get yuh dutty stinkin a$$ to ZEN or something similar. There you can hear your dutty ass Jamaican music. Stay away from ROCK vibes WE DONT WANT YOU THERE. :twisted:


I dont think Rock Vibes should be existent in trinidad at all. Seeing that what ever vibes these bands put out are insults to the genre.

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Postby gt4tified » August 30th, 2009, 1:21 pm

Oh noes you didn't, Cjruckus! :shock:

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Postby Logic42 » August 30th, 2009, 4:25 pm

Cjruckus wrote:
bootmee wrote:sexy_ke70_chick get yuh dutty stinkin a$$ to ZEN or something similar. There you can hear your dutty ass Jamaican music. Stay away from ROCK vibes WE DONT WANT YOU THERE. :twisted:


I dont think Rock Vibes should be existent in trinidad at all. Seeing that what ever vibes these bands put out are insults to the genre.


so what do you have to say about all the jump and wave soca and the wannabe dancehall stars?


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Postby Monk BANzai » August 30th, 2009, 5:22 pm

^^ yo...was good hanging with you last night......band was tight!!! what the name again??!?!?


hilarious!!!!

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Postby Cjruckus » August 30th, 2009, 5:28 pm

Logic42 wrote:
Cjruckus wrote:
bootmee wrote:sexy_ke70_chick get yuh dutty stinkin a$$ to ZEN or something similar. There you can hear your dutty ass Jamaican music. Stay away from ROCK vibes WE DONT WANT YOU THERE. :twisted:


I dont think Rock Vibes should be existent in trinidad at all. Seeing that what ever vibes these bands put out are insults to the genre.


so what do you have to say about all the jump and wave soca and the wannabe dancehall stars?


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Orange Sky has been in the same spot they were 15 years ago. Nowhere. At least Machel Montano could sell out Madison Square Garden. When Orange sky can do that, ill say they Reach. Until then, they arent any better than Brown Fox.

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Postby Dragist » August 30th, 2009, 5:53 pm

BANzai Rastafarai wrote:^^ yo...was good hanging with you last night......band was tight!!! what the name again??!?!?


hilarious!!!!



Big Tuttuts was good as usual after I put my Camera stuff in the car I limed outside a bit then left , I will pelt up some pics later .

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Postby Logic42 » August 30th, 2009, 6:14 pm

Cjruckus wrote:Orange Sky has been in the same spot they were 15 years ago. Nowhere. At least Machel Montano could sell out Madison Square Garden. When Orange sky can do that, ill say they Reach. Until then, they arent any better than Brown Fox.


so you base your likes in music on how popular the band is?

u must really like those Jonas Brothers eh?

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Postby Cjruckus » August 30th, 2009, 6:17 pm

Logic42 wrote:
Cjruckus wrote:Orange Sky has been in the same spot they were 15 years ago. Nowhere. At least Machel Montano could sell out Madison Square Garden. When Orange sky can do that, ill say they Reach. Until then, they arent any better than Brown Fox.


so you base your likes in music on how popular the band is?

u must really like those Jonas Brothers eh?


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Its not popuularity, but if the music had the vibes you so claim it has it would be able to penetrate a market that's not located in Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago..

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Postby Razkal » August 30th, 2009, 6:59 pm

^why has your logic fooled you into thinking music is only good if it can penetrate a market, niche audience or remain bounded by a genre?

owning a couple guitars does not make you a musician, clearly.

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Postby Monk BANzai » August 30th, 2009, 7:06 pm

Dragist wrote:
BANzai Rastafarai wrote:^^ yo...was good hanging with you last night......band was tight!!! what the name again??!?!?


hilarious!!!!



Big Tuttuts was good as usual after I put my Camera stuff in the car I limed outside a bit then left , I will pelt up some pics later .


Yeah we threw our frames around 4am...they literally had to throw us out!!

hahahahaha....twas good man...

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Postby buzz » August 30th, 2009, 7:06 pm

Cjruckus wrote:
Logic42 wrote:
Cjruckus wrote:
bootmee wrote:sexy_ke70_chick get yuh dutty stinkin a$$ to ZEN or something similar. There you can hear your dutty ass Jamaican music. Stay away from ROCK vibes WE DONT WANT YOU THERE. :twisted:


I dont think Rock Vibes should be existent in trinidad at all. Seeing that what ever vibes these bands put out are insults to the genre.


so what do you have to say about all the jump and wave soca and the wannabe dancehall stars?


*cues music*
<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/rbB1j2ih3M4&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x006699&color2=0x54abd6" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed>


Orange Sky has been in the same spot they were 15 years ago. Nowhere. At least Machel Montano could sell out Madison Square Garden. When Orange sky can do that, ill say they Reach. Until then, they arent any better than Brown Fox.


wrong

sky has an upcoming tour in europe

why the slow pace?

1) coming from trinidad exposure is hard

2) try having a family and making arrangements to go on the road :arrow:

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Postby Cjruckus » August 30th, 2009, 7:19 pm

Razkal wrote:owning a couple guitars does not make you a musician, clearly.


If you played guitar and used my gear you'd cream in your pants. I guess thats the drummer in me, if its not over the top or really expensive, im not going to use it.

I hate on rain on the orange sky parade, but their sound is generic. It always has been, and always will be, which is why they could never catch a break. They may be talented in your eyes, but throw them in a mix and they will get lost in the white noise.

No hard maths in that, any musician could tell you that a signature sound is the way to make it. If you sound like everybody else, you won't win. Case in point, Tripped and Fall-en off the face of the earth.

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Postby st7 » August 30th, 2009, 7:19 pm

what selling out a concert have to do with anything? :S ... jonas bros would sell out a concert in trinidad, so im guessing they wayyyyy better than rango tango!!!! wooot!!!


but i eh gonna fight u down with the local rock music scene... if yuh say dat it shouldnt happen in tnt... daz ur opinion.

to me ah doh mind if it here. at least i know from the shows i go to it have a bunch of talented fuks that have some graet music out there

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Postby Cjruckus » August 30th, 2009, 7:24 pm

Im sorry but going to trinidad rock shows is like watching the tryouts for American Idol. In the end of the day, its a copy of the real thing.

Id be willing to bet that most of you Trinidad Local Rock scene defenders have yet to see a Real band on a large stage to experience the awesomeness that makes a good show. These gigs that the local bands do are no bigger than the open mic nights my band did when I was in college.

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Postby Hook » August 30th, 2009, 7:26 pm

Dragist wrote:
BANzai Rastafarai wrote:^^ yo...was good hanging with you last night......band was tight!!! what the name again??!?!?


hilarious!!!!



Big Tuttuts was good as usual after I put my Camera stuff in the car I limed outside a bit then left , I will pelt up some pics later .


I holla'd at u when I walked in and u were hangin' with Collin and Richard but u eh mek mih out

after we get put out, ah man nearly get run over by B11 in a negrophobic blowjob escape episode :lol:

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Postby st7 » August 30th, 2009, 7:29 pm

TAF saw the days (or nights) of the big stage while they were in England though. too bad not down here. i went to the scorpions concert... daz de biggest "stage" i ever went to in my life lol...

too bad i never been to one away

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Postby Dragist » August 30th, 2009, 7:30 pm

Sorry about that , That was probably when I was begging Colin to rebuild the Transam .

Band was good though well up to the part when Jean was on stage :lol:

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Postby Cjruckus » August 30th, 2009, 7:30 pm

st7 wrote:TAF saw the days (or nights) of the big stage while they were in England though. too bad not down here. i went to the scorpions concert... daz de biggest "stage" i ever went to in my life lol...

too bad i never been to one away


I rest my case.

There's more to it than a recorded album to make it big. Orange sky just doesn't have all of the elements.

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Postby st7 » August 30th, 2009, 7:34 pm

actually orange sky performance for scorpions was rel dred eh!

and dey songs from dat iz voodoo is rel good stuff... to me at least

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Postby buzz » August 30th, 2009, 7:46 pm

Cjruckus wrote:Im sorry but going to trinidad rock shows is like watching the tryouts for American Idol. In the end of the day, its a copy of the real thing.

Id be willing to bet that most of you Trinidad Local Rock scene defenders have yet to see a Real band on a large stage to experience the awesomeness that makes a good show. These gigs that the local bands do are no bigger than the open mic nights my band did when I was in college.


and the flam that goes behind these BIG shows are owed to the band's promoters/ label's

what do you think? they pay for epic lighting and stage props out of their own pocket?

someone made a semi valid point wrt the jonas bros... they are commercial garbage and like so many today are huge simply because of promotion... enough hype and pics in mags are going to give the impression that they are "great"

so if its a matter of gracing the "big stage" i suppose britney spears and spice girls et al were all great musicians

for all the bashers i implore you to come out and do better with your profound skill and understanding of making great music

problem with finding artists on your "level"?

go solo, there are many great solo artists but hey if your so great you can always find musicians abroad that match your level of win

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Postby Cjruckus » August 30th, 2009, 7:51 pm

And this is the mentality with all Rock lovers in this country.

If your music is played on a radio station not endorsed by that insignificunt Mike Ross, then you are considered a Sell Out.

Man this whole cool to be Underground thing died with Kurt Cobain. in this day in age, and with the invention of the internets, no band can strive for being "underground" its no longer the cool thing to do. Sorry.

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Postby buzz » August 30th, 2009, 10:23 pm

Cjruckus wrote:And this is the mentality with all Rock lovers in this country.

If your music is played on a radio station not endorsed by that insignificunt Mike Ross, then you are considered a Sell Out.

Man this whole cool to be Underground thing died with Kurt Cobain. in this day in age, and with the invention of the internets, no band can strive for being "underground" its no longer the cool thing to do. Sorry.


and who said anything about being "underground" :lol: IMO "staying underground" is an excuse because your music can't land a contract

but as stated earlier being (should i rephrase) popular doesn't mean your music is great

for eg look how "popular" black rose is (sorry was) locally and well they made money off of playing other ppl's music


horridly i might add

black rose = fail

popular why? cuz the those a$$holes R**Y et al made alot of money by hyping up cnuts to come see trinidad's number one cover band

look @ pop rock :lol: it was ALL a ploy to make money. bands had to "conform" to certain "rules" ? wtf that was no concert it was a bloddy competition how sad is that? now i never said they claimed for it to be a concert but they did try oh so hard to make it seem so... it was the biggest local "rock" show, so ancorage saw ppl as far pt fortin to toco to witness this fcukery...

sadly enough many naive bands conformed to "competing" as they thought it was a way to making it somewhere... i remember all to clearly the BS they gave the MC's to say at every ancorage finals, always something to the effect "that there are many producers in the crowd here tonight" :rofl:

oh yes i remember it too well... jerseys and spikes for sale money money money

but i still give it to the few bands who used the big turn out for exposure and fcuked away with this conformist "every band must play a soca song sheit" twas a opportune moment to get some fans but sadly most of em couldn't deliver :arrow:

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Postby Cjruckus » August 30th, 2009, 10:33 pm

buzz wrote:
Cjruckus wrote:And this is the mentality with all Rock lovers in this country.

If your music is played on a radio station not endorsed by that insignificunt Mike Ross, then you are considered a Sell Out.

Man this whole cool to be Underground thing died with Kurt Cobain. in this day in age, and with the invention of the internets, no band can strive for being "underground" its no longer the cool thing to do. Sorry.


and who said anything about being "underground" :lol: IMO "staying underground" is an excuse because your music can't land a contract

but as stated earlier being (should i rephrase) popular doesn't mean your music is great

for eg look how "popular" black rose is (sorry was) locally and well they made money off of playing other ppl's music


horridly i might add

black rose = fail

popular why? cuz the those a$$holes R**Y et al made alot of money by hyping up cnuts to come see trinidad's number one cover band

look @ pop rock :lol: it was ALL a ploy to make money. bands had to "conform" to certain "rules" ? wtf that was no concert it was a bloddy competition how sad is that? now i never said they claimed for it to be a concert but they did try oh so hard to make it seem so... it was the biggest local "rock" show, so ancorage saw ppl as far pt fortin to toco to witness this fcukery...

sadly enough many naive bands conformed to "competing" as they thought it was a way to making it somewhere... i remember all to clearly the BS they gave the MC's to say at every ancorage finals, always something to the effect "that there are many producers in the crowd here tonight" :rofl:

oh yes i remember it too well... jerseys and spikes for sale money money money

but i still give it to the few bands who used the big turn out for exposure and fcuked away with this conformist "every band must play a soca song sheit" twas a opportune moment to get some fans but sadly most of em couldn't deliver :arrow:


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you see this here? This is the worlds smallest violin playing for all the closet emo kids who feel that making an industry out of rock music is a bad thing.

Your rant has to be the biggest emo rant I have seen on this forum in a while but you do realize that the reason Pop Rock forced trinidadian bands to play covers was solely because

Their original tunes weren't any good.

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Postby buzz » August 30th, 2009, 10:53 pm

where was the support for "real" metal locally?

was pop rock ever about original music? :lol:

its was never about the original tunes it was about how many ppl they could get money from so they included this "mix" of music genres to compensate

95 the rock went to 95 the best mix

why? $$$$ 8)

still waiting for trinituner's greatest guitarist/musician to put his guitar pick where his mouth is :wink:

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Postby Cjruckus » August 30th, 2009, 11:19 pm

buzz wrote:still waiting for trinituner's greatest guitarist/musician to put his guitar pick where his mouth is :wink:


I don't jam with people who use Imitation ESPs/Fenders/Gibsons. So until you get a Real ESP (not LTD) then you can be in my league, until then... Rock So.

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Postby gt4tified » August 30th, 2009, 11:43 pm

Cjruckus wrote:I hate on rain on the orange sky parade, but their sound is generic. It always has been, and always will be, which is why they could never catch a break. They may be talented in your eyes, but throw them in a mix and they will get lost in the white noise.


Yeah but bro, daz your opinion (which of course you're entitled to)...and by that why do you think you're raining on anyone's parade? Do you think YOUR opinion of them is going to influence MINE, or the rest of their fans for that matter?"

Ok, again to draw an analogy, to hopefully, a more mature and level-headed individual; I think Sean Paul's music sounds generic. No I will not go to one of his concerts, yes I will play it at a fete if I was to DJ at one, yes I MAY play it in my car (if I prolly like the bass line), no I don't understand 3/4 of what he's saying, yes I know he's currently on Rick Dees' top 40 and no I have no idea why. And of course he'll more than fill MSG for a concert.

Cjruckus wrote:
st7 wrote:TAF saw the days (or nights) of the big stage while they were in England though. too bad not down here. i went to the scorpions concert... daz de biggest "stage" i ever went to in my life lol...

too bad i never been to one away


I rest my case.

There's more to it than a recorded album to make it big. Orange sky just doesn't have all of the elements.


Again, I respect your opinion, but hoss, at least they trying.....how many of these other local bands that others on this thread dote over can say that they do the same?

But yuh know, because I doh go to everyshow, not on the forums at islandnoisedotcom, and not in wid de in-crowd here, I does only fight down the local scene.

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Postby Razkal » August 31st, 2009, 3:14 am

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Razkal wrote:owning a couple guitars does not make you a musician, clearly.


If you played guitar and used my gear you'd cream in your pants. I guess thats the drummer in me, if its not over the top or really expensive, im not going to use it.


well...clearly you're not a drummer, and lol verily @ you thinking uber gear makes you awesomer :D

if you're versed at playing and the gear is crazy then the experience just heightens but i've heard some crazy pieces played on complete riff-raff equipment :|

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Postby buzz » August 31st, 2009, 7:55 am

Cjruckus wrote:
buzz wrote:still waiting for trinituner's greatest guitarist/musician to put his guitar pick where his mouth is :wink:


I don't jam with people who use Imitation ESPs/Fenders/Gibsons. So until you get a Real ESP (not LTD) then you can be in my league, until then... Rock So.


oh oooo

and this is where emo sets in :lol:

sad thing really is that you have all this "great" gear and nothing to show for it

maybe you should have spent more money learning to play rather than buying epic guitars that you bring to shame for you audience of 5 @ live n loud

oh wait i thought ALL trinidadian musicians were shiddy but you go play with them?

Cjrukus the most talented and popular guitarist on.....


trinituner? or is it guitar hero? :rofl:

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