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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby timelapse » July 28th, 2025, 8:41 pm

redmanjp wrote:
matr1x wrote:As an atheist, they see me as the ultimate evil.


infidels. but the quran tells them if they see a jew behind a tree what to do with them?
I can't fault them for that.Jews are worse

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » July 28th, 2025, 9:25 pm

timelapse wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
matr1x wrote:As an atheist, they see me as the ultimate evil.


infidels. but the quran tells them if they see a jew behind a tree what to do with them?
I can't fault them for that.Jews are worse




Yeah.......no

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby redmanjp » July 29th, 2025, 10:45 am

alfa wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
matr1x wrote:As an atheist, they see me as the ultimate evil.


infidels. but the quran tells them if they see a jew behind a tree what to do with them?

You have a verse reference for that lol?


https://jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com/there-is-a-jew-hiding-behind-me-come-and-kill-him/

https://christianconcern.com/resource/antisemitism-in-islam-part-two-traditions/

maybe not the quran itself but the Hadith

Antisemitism in the Hadith
Apocalyptic Hadith: kill Jews

The most famous antisemitic hadith is the so-called apocalyptic hadith about killing Jews.

“Allah’s Messenger said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. ‘O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.’”
(Sahih Bukhari 4:52:177; see also Sahih Bukhari 4:52:176; Sahih Muslim 41:6985)[1]


This hadith was cited in Hamas’s founding charter, article seven.[2] Two footnotes explained:

Reference is made to the Day of judgement. This tradition (Hadith), which is imputed to the Prophet, has been often quoted in Islamic literature, old and modem. The Egyptian troops who launched the assault on the Bar-Lev Line in October 1973, were equipped with “booklets of guidance” which included, inter alia, this same quotation.
Bukhari and Muslim are the authors of the two most authoritative and widely accepted collections of hadith (traditions of the Prophet).
A 2011 poll found that 73% of Palestinians agreed with this Hadith.[3] The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Mufti Muhammad Hussein, expressed his agreement with this Hadith in 2012.[4]


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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby alfa » July 29th, 2025, 11:12 am

Correct it's in the Hadith and refers to end of time wars and based on what we're seeing in Israel right now it's proving to be true

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » July 29th, 2025, 11:35 am

Why are religious ppl so obsessed over end times?


Death is more valuable than life?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby VII » July 29th, 2025, 11:59 am

They failed at real life so all bets riding on some 'afterlife' ,they love the concept, they need to wake up before its too late .

matr1x wrote:Why are religious ppl so obsessed over end times?


Death is more valuable than life?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby redmanjp » July 29th, 2025, 3:12 pm

matr1x wrote:Why are religious ppl so obsessed over end times?


Death is more valuable than life?


everyone will experience the end times- religious or not.

the Bible also predicts a time when the whole world will wage war against Israel- the stage is being set with all the antisemitism and anti-Israel propaganda.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby sMASH » July 29th, 2025, 5:22 pm

redmanjp wrote:
matr1x wrote:Why are religious ppl so obsessed over end times?


Death is more valuable than life?


everyone will experience the end times- religious or not.

the Bible also predicts a time when the whole world will wage war against Israel- the stage is being set with all the antisemitism and anti-Israel propaganda.
If u see what Isreal is doing to MILLIONS of civilians , see the lies the openly commit to goyim and admit with their peers , the way they subvert their own allies , and u still think they are right , ur ethics are ABSOLUTELY corrupt.


The anitizionism is justified just as the anti nazism... And for the same reasons.


All abrahamic end times teachings says the world with be fighting Israel , it is now clear why... Is cause they are a threat to the WHOLE WORLD.

The zionists belive the messiah will enslave all non jews when he returns, and derive from that they are the superior race. Just like the nazis.
They both worked with other races to achieve Theo goal, but just like soviet union and Iran, as soon as it's convenient they will break their words and attack them.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby sMASH » July 29th, 2025, 5:25 pm

redmanjp wrote:Islam really would like to conquer the whole world apparently








“We are going to get Hamas fighters,” Ayaan Hirsi Ali told GB News in an exclusive interview.
“We're going to get Palestinian Islamic Jihad members who are going to get radical, hardened militant Islamists to come into America through the asylum and refugee process and exploit the system to lend a hand to those activist, militant Muslims who are anti-Semitic and anti-American and with an agenda to Islamise as our society.”

"A fusion of the woke with the islamist ideas using DEI to accomplish the goal"

People are converting to Islam , it's not an active push.

Right now I met Christians on the socials who see what is happening to the Palestinians, then got to learn the history and are anti israel.


Current events are sparking people to learn more, and the more they see the more they like the hijab.

Dont hate the player, hate the game.

Its wrong to starve a whole damn country .

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » July 29th, 2025, 5:46 pm

sMASH wrote:
redmanjp wrote:Islam really would like to conquer the whole world apparently








“We are going to get Hamas fighters,” Ayaan Hirsi Ali told GB News in an exclusive interview.
“We're going to get Palestinian Islamic Jihad members who are going to get radical, hardened militant Islamists to come into America through the asylum and refugee process and exploit the system to lend a hand to those activist, militant Muslims who are anti-Semitic and anti-American and with an agenda to Islamise as our society.”

"A fusion of the woke with the islamist ideas using DEI to accomplish the goal"

People are converting to Islam , it's not an active push.

Right now I met Christians on the socials who see what is happening to the Palestinians, then got to learn the history and are anti israel.


Current events are sparking people to learn more, and the more they see the more they like the hijab.

Dont hate the player, hate the game.

Its wrong to starve a whole damn country .



Because someone does something dotish, don't make it good.

We have heard of ppl marrying into Muslim homes being made to convert. Yeah, firetruck that

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Dizzy28 » July 29th, 2025, 6:11 pm

redmanjp wrote:
matr1x wrote:Why are religious ppl so obsessed over end times?


Death is more valuable than life?


everyone will experience the end times- religious or not.

the Bible also predicts a time when the whole world will wage war against Israel- the stage is being set with all the antisemitism and anti-Israel propaganda.
Abrahamic religions be wild with their end of days scenarios.

Dharmic religions just chill when it comes to the end
I.e. there is no end merely a restart of a cycle

Yada yada hi dharmasya
glanir bhavati bharata
abhyutthanam adharmasya
tadatmanam srjamy aham


Whenever there is a decline in righteousness and an increase in unrighteousness, O Arjuna, I manifest myself

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » July 29th, 2025, 6:27 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
matr1x wrote:Why are religious ppl so obsessed over end times?


Death is more valuable than life?


everyone will experience the end times- religious or not.

the Bible also predicts a time when the whole world will wage war against Israel- the stage is being set with all the antisemitism and anti-Israel propaganda.
Abrahamic religions be wild with their end of days scenarios.

Dharmic religions just chill when it comes to the end
I.e. there is no end merely a restart of a cycle

Yada yada hi dharmasya
glanir bhavati bharata
abhyutthanam adharmasya
tadatmanam srjamy aham


Whenever there is a decline in righteousness and an increase in unrighteousness, O Arjuna, I manifest myself



The Abrahamic religions act more as death cults.

Anyone of hindu faiths considering converting to Islam, I simply let them read the accounts of the people killed in the kashmir attack, and let them think about it

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Re: The Religion Discussion

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby timelapse » August 4th, 2025, 11:41 am

matr1x wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
matr1x wrote:Why are religious ppl so obsessed over end times?


Death is more valuable than life?


everyone will experience the end times- religious or not.

the Bible also predicts a time when the whole world will wage war against Israel- the stage is being set with all the antisemitism and anti-Israel propaganda.
Abrahamic religions be wild with their end of days scenarios.

Dharmic religions just chill when it comes to the end
I.e. there is no end merely a restart of a cycle

Yada yada hi dharmasya
glanir bhavati bharata
abhyutthanam adharmasya
tadatmanam srjamy aham


Whenever there is a decline in righteousness and an increase in unrighteousness, O Arjuna, I manifest myself



The Abrahamic religions act more as death cults.

Anyone of hindu faiths considering converting to Islam, I simply let them read the accounts of the people killed in the kashmir attack, and let them think about it
You do realize that Abrahamic includes Jews and Christians also right?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby death365 » August 4th, 2025, 12:22 pm

the bible also said that adam and eve had 3 sons .... and they had wifes .... incest .... hardcore incest. and it happened many many times.

and to not eat pork

and to kill cheaters

and that women should shut up

and Jesus didn’t came to bring peace but a sword

and Shellfish are detestable

it has endless more



redmanjp wrote:
matr1x wrote:Why are religious ppl so obsessed over end times?


Death is more valuable than life?


everyone will experience the end times- religious or not.

the Bible also predicts a time when the whole world will wage war against Israel- the stage is being set with all the antisemitism and anti-Israel propaganda.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » August 4th, 2025, 2:03 pm

timelapse wrote:
matr1x wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
matr1x wrote:Why are religious ppl so obsessed over end times?


Death is more valuable than life?


everyone will experience the end times- religious or not.

the Bible also predicts a time when the whole world will wage war against Israel- the stage is being set with all the antisemitism and anti-Israel propaganda.
Abrahamic religions be wild with their end of days scenarios.

Dharmic religions just chill when it comes to the end
I.e. there is no end merely a restart of a cycle

Yada yada hi dharmasya
glanir bhavati bharata
abhyutthanam adharmasya
tadatmanam srjamy aham


Whenever there is a decline in righteousness and an increase in unrighteousness, O Arjuna, I manifest myself



The Abrahamic religions act more as death cults.

Anyone of hindu faiths considering converting to Islam, I simply let them read the accounts of the people killed in the kashmir attack, and let them think about it
You do realize that Abrahamic includes Jews and Christians also right?



Yup

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby FrankChag » August 4th, 2025, 3:48 pm

Only idiots like yourselves would equate a prophecy "the last hour will not arrive until Muslims fight with Jews" with a non-existent command "see a Jew, fight a Jew, any Jew", which is what you seem to be suggesting.

Islaam is Peace, and the Sharia establishes peace. We live in peace when we are ruled over (like here in Trinidad and in the West), and there is peace when the Sharia is dominant (such as the various kingdoms in the Middle East). The rules of war and battle are only relevant in a war under a legitimate Muslim King or Ruler.

The war-mongering mischief-makers like the khawarij (heretics), ISIS, al-queda, muslim brotherhood, and the lying shia, hezbullah, houthies, etc., are the ones who disrupt this peace because they seek power.

Islaam was sent to call people to tawheed (true monotheism: the worship of a Single Lord and Creator), and not to seek power through war and politicking.


25. And We did not send any Messenger before you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) but We revealed to him (saying): Lâ ilâha illa Ana [none has the right to be worshipped but I (Allâh)], so worship Me (Alone and none else)."


https://quran.com/21/25?translations=203


see also:

https://www.tawhidfirst.com/monotheism/
https://abukhadeejah.com/the-monotheist ... pposes-it/
https://abukhadeejah.com/the-fundamenta ... t-1-quran/
http://www.shia.bs/
http://www.islamagainstextremism.com/






redmanjp wrote:
alfa wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
matr1x wrote:As an atheist, they see me as the ultimate evil.


infidels. but the quran tells them if they see a jew behind a tree what to do with them?

You have a verse reference for that lol?


https://jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com/there-is-a-jew-hiding-behind-me-come-and-kill-him/

https://christianconcern.com/resource/antisemitism-in-islam-part-two-traditions/

maybe not the quran itself but the Hadith

Antisemitism in the Hadith
Apocalyptic Hadith: kill Jews

The most famous antisemitic hadith is the so-called apocalyptic hadith about killing Jews.

“Allah’s Messenger said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. ‘O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.’”
(Sahih Bukhari 4:52:177; see also Sahih Bukhari 4:52:176; Sahih Muslim 41:6985)[1]


This hadith was cited in Hamas’s founding charter, article seven.[2] Two footnotes explained:

Reference is made to the Day of judgement. This tradition (Hadith), which is imputed to the Prophet, has been often quoted in Islamic literature, old and modem. The Egyptian troops who launched the assault on the Bar-Lev Line in October 1973, were equipped with “booklets of guidance” which included, inter alia, this same quotation.
Bukhari and Muslim are the authors of the two most authoritative and widely accepted collections of hadith (traditions of the Prophet).
A 2011 poll found that 73% of Palestinians agreed with this Hadith.[3] The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Mufti Muhammad Hussein, expressed his agreement with this Hadith in 2012.[4]


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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby timelapse » August 4th, 2025, 8:10 pm

FrankChag wrote:Only idiots like yourselves would equate a prophecy "the last hour will not arrive until Muslims fight with Jews" with a non-existent command "see a Jew, fight a Jew, any Jew", which is what you seem to be suggesting.

Islaam is Peace, and the Sharia establishes peace. We live in peace when we are ruled over (like here in Trinidad and in the West), and there is peace when the Sharia is dominant (such as the various kingdoms in the Middle East). The rules of war and battle are only relevant in a war under a legitimate Muslim King or Ruler.

The war-mongering mischief-makers like the khawarij (heretics), ISIS, al-queda, muslim brotherhood, and the lying shia, hezbullah, houthies, etc., are the ones who disrupt this peace because they seek power.

Islaam was sent to call people to tawheed (true monotheism: the worship of a Single Lord and Creator), and not to seek power through war and politicking.


25. And We did not send any Messenger before you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) but We revealed to him (saying): Lâ ilâha illa Ana [none has the right to be worshipped but I (Allâh)], so worship Me (Alone and none else)."


https://quran.com/21/25?translations=203


see also:

https://www.tawhidfirst.com/monotheism/
https://abukhadeejah.com/the-monotheist ... pposes-it/
https://abukhadeejah.com/the-fundamenta ... t-1-quran/
http://www.shia.bs/
http://www.islamagainstextremism.com/






redmanjp wrote:
alfa wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
matr1x wrote:As an atheist, they see me as the ultimate evil.


infidels. but the quran tells them if they see a jew behind a tree what to do with them?

You have a verse reference for that lol?


https://jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com/there-is-a-jew-hiding-behind-me-come-and-kill-him/

https://christianconcern.com/resource/antisemitism-in-islam-part-two-traditions/

maybe not the quran itself but the Hadith

Antisemitism in the Hadith
Apocalyptic Hadith: kill Jews

The most famous antisemitic hadith is the so-called apocalyptic hadith about killing Jews.

“Allah’s Messenger said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. ‘O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.’”
(Sahih Bukhari 4:52:177; see also Sahih Bukhari 4:52:176; Sahih Muslim 41:6985)[1]


This hadith was cited in Hamas’s founding charter, article seven.[2] Two footnotes explained:

Reference is made to the Day of judgement. This tradition (Hadith), which is imputed to the Prophet, has been often quoted in Islamic literature, old and modem. The Egyptian troops who launched the assault on the Bar-Lev Line in October 1973, were equipped with “booklets of guidance” which included, inter alia, this same quotation.
Bukhari and Muslim are the authors of the two most authoritative and widely accepted collections of hadith (traditions of the Prophet).
A 2011 poll found that 73% of Palestinians agreed with this Hadith.[3] The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Mufti Muhammad Hussein, expressed his agreement with this Hadith in 2012.[4]

My problem is that the mischief makers embed themselves with regular Muslims that shelter them. Taking in strays runs you the risk of catching fleas yourself.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » August 4th, 2025, 10:49 pm

timelapse wrote:
FrankChag wrote:Only idiots like yourselves would equate a prophecy "the last hour will not arrive until Muslims fight with Jews" with a non-existent command "see a Jew, fight a Jew, any Jew", which is what you seem to be suggesting.

Islaam is Peace, and the Sharia establishes peace. We live in peace when we are ruled over (like here in Trinidad and in the West), and there is peace when the Sharia is dominant (such as the various kingdoms in the Middle East). The rules of war and battle are only relevant in a war under a legitimate Muslim King or Ruler.

The war-mongering mischief-makers like the khawarij (heretics), ISIS, al-queda, muslim brotherhood, and the lying shia, hezbullah, houthies, etc., are the ones who disrupt this peace because they seek power.

Islaam was sent to call people to tawheed (true monotheism: the worship of a Single Lord and Creator), and not to seek power through war and politicking.


25. And We did not send any Messenger before you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) but We revealed to him (saying): Lâ ilâha illa Ana [none has the right to be worshipped but I (Allâh)], so worship Me (Alone and none else)."


https://quran.com/21/25?translations=203


see also:

https://www.tawhidfirst.com/monotheism/
https://abukhadeejah.com/the-monotheist ... pposes-it/
https://abukhadeejah.com/the-fundamenta ... t-1-quran/
http://www.shia.bs/
http://www.islamagainstextremism.com/






redmanjp wrote:
alfa wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
matr1x wrote:As an atheist, they see me as the ultimate evil.


infidels. but the quran tells them if they see a jew behind a tree what to do with them?

You have a verse reference for that lol?


https://jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com/there-is-a-jew-hiding-behind-me-come-and-kill-him/

https://christianconcern.com/resource/antisemitism-in-islam-part-two-traditions/

maybe not the quran itself but the Hadith

Antisemitism in the Hadith
Apocalyptic Hadith: kill Jews

The most famous antisemitic hadith is the so-called apocalyptic hadith about killing Jews.

“Allah’s Messenger said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. ‘O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.’”
(Sahih Bukhari 4:52:177; see also Sahih Bukhari 4:52:176; Sahih Muslim 41:6985)[1]


This hadith was cited in Hamas’s founding charter, article seven.[2] Two footnotes explained:

Reference is made to the Day of judgement. This tradition (Hadith), which is imputed to the Prophet, has been often quoted in Islamic literature, old and modem. The Egyptian troops who launched the assault on the Bar-Lev Line in October 1973, were equipped with “booklets of guidance” which included, inter alia, this same quotation.
Bukhari and Muslim are the authors of the two most authoritative and widely accepted collections of hadith (traditions of the Prophet).
A 2011 poll found that 73% of Palestinians agreed with this Hadith.[3] The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Mufti Muhammad Hussein, expressed his agreement with this Hadith in 2012.[4]

My problem is that the mischief makers embed themselves with regular Muslims that shelter them. Taking in strays runs you the risk of catching fleas yourself.



Given to their shared views on Palestinians, are they really any different?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

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timelapse wrote:
FrankChag wrote:Only idiots like yourselves would equate a prophecy "the last hour will not arrive until Muslims fight with Jews" with a non-existent command "see a Jew, fight a Jew, any Jew", which is what you seem to be suggesting.

Islaam is Peace, and the Sharia establishes peace. We live in peace when we are ruled over (like here in Trinidad and in the West), and there is peace when the Sharia is dominant (such as the various kingdoms in the Middle East). The rules of war and battle are only relevant in a war under a legitimate Muslim King or Ruler.

The war-mongering mischief-makers like the khawarij (heretics), ISIS, al-queda, muslim brotherhood, and the lying shia, hezbullah, houthies, etc., are the ones who disrupt this peace because they seek power.

Islaam was sent to call people to tawheed (true monotheism: the worship of a Single Lord and Creator), and not to seek power through war and politicking.


25. And We did not send any Messenger before you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) but We revealed to him (saying): Lâ ilâha illa Ana [none has the right to be worshipped but I (Allâh)], so worship Me (Alone and none else)."


https://quran.com/21/25?translations=203


see also:

https://www.tawhidfirst.com/monotheism/
https://abukhadeejah.com/the-monotheist ... pposes-it/
https://abukhadeejah.com/the-fundamenta ... t-1-quran/
http://www.shia.bs/
http://www.islamagainstextremism.com/






redmanjp wrote:
alfa wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
matr1x wrote:As an atheist, they see me as the ultimate evil.


infidels. but the quran tells them if they see a jew behind a tree what to do with them?

You have a verse reference for that lol?


https://jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com/there-is-a-jew-hiding-behind-me-come-and-kill-him/

https://christianconcern.com/resource/antisemitism-in-islam-part-two-traditions/

maybe not the quran itself but the Hadith

Antisemitism in the Hadith
Apocalyptic Hadith: kill Jews

The most famous antisemitic hadith is the so-called apocalyptic hadith about killing Jews.

“Allah’s Messenger said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. ‘O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.’”
(Sahih Bukhari 4:52:177; see also Sahih Bukhari 4:52:176; Sahih Muslim 41:6985)[1]


This hadith was cited in Hamas’s founding charter, article seven.[2] Two footnotes explained:

Reference is made to the Day of judgement. This tradition (Hadith), which is imputed to the Prophet, has been often quoted in Islamic literature, old and modem. The Egyptian troops who launched the assault on the Bar-Lev Line in October 1973, were equipped with “booklets of guidance” which included, inter alia, this same quotation.
Bukhari and Muslim are the authors of the two most authoritative and widely accepted collections of hadith (traditions of the Prophet).
A 2011 poll found that 73% of Palestinians agreed with this Hadith.[3] The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Mufti Muhammad Hussein, expressed his agreement with this Hadith in 2012.[4]

My problem is that the mischief makers embed themselves with regular Muslims that shelter them. Taking in strays runs you the risk of catching fleas yourself.
This dont apply to all regions and all institutions of mankind though?
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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby timelapse » Yesterday, 9:13 am

matr1x wrote:
timelapse wrote:
FrankChag wrote:Only idiots like yourselves would equate a prophecy "the last hour will not arrive until Muslims fight with Jews" with a non-existent command "see a Jew, fight a Jew, any Jew", which is what you seem to be suggesting.

Islaam is Peace, and the Sharia establishes peace. We live in peace when we are ruled over (like here in Trinidad and in the West), and there is peace when the Sharia is dominant (such as the various kingdoms in the Middle East). The rules of war and battle are only relevant in a war under a legitimate Muslim King or Ruler.

The war-mongering mischief-makers like the khawarij (heretics), ISIS, al-queda, muslim brotherhood, and the lying shia, hezbullah, houthies, etc., are the ones who disrupt this peace because they seek power.

Islaam was sent to call people to tawheed (true monotheism: the worship of a Single Lord and Creator), and not to seek power through war and politicking.


25. And We did not send any Messenger before you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) but We revealed to him (saying): Lâ ilâha illa Ana [none has the right to be worshipped but I (Allâh)], so worship Me (Alone and none else)."


https://quran.com/21/25?translations=203


see also:

https://www.tawhidfirst.com/monotheism/
https://abukhadeejah.com/the-monotheist ... pposes-it/
https://abukhadeejah.com/the-fundamenta ... t-1-quran/
http://www.shia.bs/
http://www.islamagainstextremism.com/






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alfa wrote:
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matr1x wrote:As an atheist, they see me as the ultimate evil.


infidels. but the quran tells them if they see a jew behind a tree what to do with them?

You have a verse reference for that lol?


https://jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com/there-is-a-jew-hiding-behind-me-come-and-kill-him/

https://christianconcern.com/resource/antisemitism-in-islam-part-two-traditions/

maybe not the quran itself but the Hadith

Antisemitism in the Hadith
Apocalyptic Hadith: kill Jews

The most famous antisemitic hadith is the so-called apocalyptic hadith about killing Jews.

“Allah’s Messenger said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. ‘O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.’”
(Sahih Bukhari 4:52:177; see also Sahih Bukhari 4:52:176; Sahih Muslim 41:6985)[1]


This hadith was cited in Hamas’s founding charter, article seven.[2] Two footnotes explained:

Reference is made to the Day of judgement. This tradition (Hadith), which is imputed to the Prophet, has been often quoted in Islamic literature, old and modem. The Egyptian troops who launched the assault on the Bar-Lev Line in October 1973, were equipped with “booklets of guidance” which included, inter alia, this same quotation.
Bukhari and Muslim are the authors of the two most authoritative and widely accepted collections of hadith (traditions of the Prophet).
A 2011 poll found that 73% of Palestinians agreed with this Hadith.[3] The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Mufti Muhammad Hussein, expressed his agreement with this Hadith in 2012.[4]

My problem is that the mischief makers embed themselves with regular Muslims that shelter them. Taking in strays runs you the risk of catching fleas yourself.



Given to their shared views on Palestinians, are they really any different?
I am sure that what I am about to say is NOT how you meant it, but here goes.
As in any group, Islam has good representatives and bad representatives. Whenever religion and politics mix ,there will always be problems.Take the example of when European nations had no separation of Church and State. The western world can not generally separate Arab from Muslim. Bias due to ignorance,but bias nonetheless.
That being said, as long as there are people like Zakir Naik and Ummar Abdullah at the forefront of Islam, non Muslims are not going to have a good perception of Islam.The bigotry attempts to masquerade itself as piety which fools the simple minded sheep. You will see numerous examples of wannabe 'Islamic freedom fighters ' on the rise. There are no examples of Muslims being good towards non Muslims for the sake of being fellow humans being highlighted anywhere.
All in all, bad marketing on the part of Muslims, especially when the large media worldwide is against them.
Question, Have you ever seen humanitarian aid being rendered to non Muslims by Pakistan, Afghanistan etc?
Second question, Have you ever seen the countries mentioned above involved in harming civilians in terror activities?
See which question you can answer faster without searching online.

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Postby mero » Yesterday, 10:12 am

You not there to see who renders aid and who speaks out against radical Islam, Christianity, whoever. I assume youll pass those articles straight im sure And its obvious to anyone who reads these threads you have an agenda and bias against Islam.

You speak like are no bad Hindus or sects of Hindus creating chaos and inciting crimes,violence, rapes and crimes and genocide of other religions.

Based on you and Slim's posts on 2nr as "devout Hindus", i can assume what kind of Hindus or ppl you both are in rl not so? And it aint looking so good tbh. If i was to just judge you based on texts written on an anonymous forum

But it would be wrong for me to assume who you are who you'd stand up for/defend or help out in real life, regardless of what I see or assume on social media.

Seems like bigotry and hypocrisy only exists on one side of the fence for many ppl and is never theirs.

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Postby timelapse » Yesterday, 10:22 am

mero wrote:You not there to see who renders aid and who speaks out against radical Islam, Christianity, whoever. I assume youll pass those articles straight im sure And its obvious to anyone who reads these threads you have an agenda and bias against Islam.

You speak like are no bad Hindus or sects of Hindus creating chaos and inciting crimes,violence, rapes and crimes and genocide of other religions.

Based on you and Slim's posts on 2nr as "devout Hindus", i can assume what kind of Hindus or ppl you both are in rl not so? And it aint looking so good tbh. If i was to just judge you based on texts written on an anonymous forum

But it would be wrong for me to assume who you are who you'd stand up for/defend or help out in real life, regardless of what I see or assume on social media.

Seems like bigotry and hypocrisy only exists on one side of the fence for many ppl and is never theirs.
My dad is Muslim,my mom is Hindu.Hindus accepted my Muslim heritage, Muslims did not accept my Hindu heritage.Let's start there for bigotry.
You missed my point. I know I am not there to see who renders aid and who speaks out against radical Islam. I will pass those articles straight, because either they don't exist,or mainstream media down plays them. You can't blame me for that. Like I said , bad marketing.

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Postby matr1x » Yesterday, 10:49 am

timelapse wrote:
mero wrote:You not there to see who renders aid and who speaks out against radical Islam, Christianity, whoever. I assume youll pass those articles straight im sure And its obvious to anyone who reads these threads you have an agenda and bias against Islam.

You speak like are no bad Hindus or sects of Hindus creating chaos and inciting crimes,violence, rapes and crimes and genocide of other religions.

Based on you and Slim's posts on 2nr as "devout Hindus", i can assume what kind of Hindus or ppl you both are in rl not so? And it aint looking so good tbh. If i was to just judge you based on texts written on an anonymous forum

But it would be wrong for me to assume who you are who you'd stand up for/defend or help out in real life, regardless of what I see or assume on social media.

Seems like bigotry and hypocrisy only exists on one side of the fence for many ppl and is never theirs.
My dad is Muslim,my mom is Hindu.Hindus accepted my Muslim heritage, Muslims did not accept my Hindu heritage.Let's start there for bigotry.
You missed my point. I know I am not there to see who renders aid and who speaks out against radical Islam. I will pass those articles straight, because either they don't exist,or mainstream media down plays them. You can't blame me for that. Like I said , bad marketing.



Really sorry to hear that. You and I have had our differences, but I still greatly respect your perspectives and points.


The part that annoys me, is the amount of excuses that people come up with is insane

9/11: Jewish conspiracy or government inside job
October 7th: inside job
July 27th: battle against taxes or some bs.

When are we going to stop making excuses for them?

Let's not forget the footage after September 11th by these groups

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Postby mero » Yesterday, 11:24 am

timelapse wrote:
mero wrote:You not there to see who renders aid and who speaks out against radical Islam, Christianity, whoever. I assume youll pass those articles straight im sure And its obvious to anyone who reads these threads you have an agenda and bias against Islam.

You speak like are no bad Hindus or sects of Hindus creating chaos and inciting crimes,violence, rapes and crimes and genocide of other religions.

Based on you and Slim's posts on 2nr as "devout Hindus", i can assume what kind of Hindus or ppl you both are in rl not so? And it aint looking so good tbh. If i was to just judge you based on texts written on an anonymous forum

But it would be wrong for me to assume who you are who you'd stand up for/defend or help out in real life, regardless of what I see or assume on social media.

Seems like bigotry and hypocrisy only exists on one side of the fence for many ppl and is never theirs.
My dad is Muslim,my mom is Hindu.Hindus accepted my Muslim heritage, Muslims did not accept my Hindu heritage.Let's start there for bigotry.
You missed my point. I know I am not there to see who renders aid and who speaks out against radical Islam. I will pass those articles straight, because either they don't exist,or mainstream media down plays them. You can't blame me for that. Like I said , bad marketing.


And you still love your father not so? And your dad love yuh mum and yuh mum love yuh pops, correct? Did your father disown you was ashamed of you? Even though his ppl did not approve. And that happens in other reglions as well, Even Christian denominations.

I note even gonna get into the vile words and threats Hindus have made towards me and friends of mine esp in the daughter department

And u need mainstream media to prove to you 2 billion Muslims not trying to kill you or destroy the world? I think I can actually blame for that

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Postby alfa » Yesterday, 12:04 pm

I know of Hindus not accepting other Hindus marrying their children because of caste. I guess they can tell or know the difference. Don't even get me started on the race aspect. We conveniently gonna forget who used to throw away the glass after giving water to which group of people lol

I have no issue with wanting to preserve your culture or religion and want your kids to marry into same, but don't act like it's a crime when others do the same

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Postby redmanjp » Yesterday, 12:10 pm

media was silent on this

More than 40 killed in DR Congo attack linked to Islamic State

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ezjg34lw4o

More than 40 people were killed in an attack by an Islamic State affiliate in north-eastern Democratic Republic of Congo, the UN and the military said.

Most of them were worshippers taking part in a night vigil at a church in the town of Komanda when they were attacked by Allied Democratic Forces (ADF) fighters. Nine of those killed were children, the UN peacekeeping mission said.

Nearby shops and businesses were looted and set on fire.

The ADF emerged in Uganda in the 1990s, accusing the government there of persecuting Muslims, but is now based over the border in DR Congo, where it regularly attacks civilians of all religions, as well as in Uganda.

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Postby alfa » Yesterday, 12:12 pm

redmanjp wrote:media was silent on this

More than 40 killed in DR Congo attack linked to Islamic State

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ezjg34lw4o

More than 40 people were killed in an attack by an Islamic State affiliate in north-eastern Democratic Republic of Congo, the UN and the military said.

Most of them were worshippers taking part in a night vigil at a church in the town of Komanda when they were attacked by Allied Democratic Forces (ADF) fighters. Nine of those killed were children, the UN peacekeeping mission said.

Nearby shops and businesses were looted and set on fire.

The ADF emerged in Uganda in the 1990s, accusing the government there of persecuting Muslims, but is now based over the border in DR Congo, where it regularly attacks civilians of all religions, as well as in Uganda.

This isn't a media link you post? Lol

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Postby redmanjp » Yesterday, 12:15 pm

alfa wrote:
redmanjp wrote:media was silent on this

More than 40 killed in DR Congo attack linked to Islamic State

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ezjg34lw4o

More than 40 people were killed in an attack by an Islamic State affiliate in north-eastern Democratic Republic of Congo, the UN and the military said.

Most of them were worshippers taking part in a night vigil at a church in the town of Komanda when they were attacked by Allied Democratic Forces (ADF) fighters. Nine of those killed were children, the UN peacekeeping mission said.

Nearby shops and businesses were looted and set on fire.

The ADF emerged in Uganda in the 1990s, accusing the government there of persecuting Muslims, but is now based over the border in DR Congo, where it regularly attacks civilians of all religions, as well as in Uganda.

This isn't a media link you post? Lol


i had to search for it- the only reason i even know about it was a christian website - CBN i think. it didn't show up as news on Google news website for instance. US networks like ABC didnt cover it.

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Postby timelapse » Yesterday, 12:19 pm

redmanjp wrote:
alfa wrote:
redmanjp wrote:media was silent on this

More than 40 killed in DR Congo attack linked to Islamic State

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ezjg34lw4o

More than 40 people were killed in an attack by an Islamic State affiliate in north-eastern Democratic Republic of Congo, the UN and the military said.

Most of them were worshippers taking part in a night vigil at a church in the town of Komanda when they were attacked by Allied Democratic Forces (ADF) fighters. Nine of those killed were children, the UN peacekeeping mission said.

Nearby shops and businesses were looted and set on fire.

The ADF emerged in Uganda in the 1990s, accusing the government there of persecuting Muslims, but is now based over the border in DR Congo, where it regularly attacks civilians of all religions, as well as in Uganda.

This isn't a media link you post? Lol


i had to search for it- the only reason i even know about it was a christian website - CBN i think. it didn't show up as news on Google news website for instance. US networks like ABC didnt cover it.
Careful you get branded as Islamaphobic

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