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Who do you believe will win General Elections 2025?

Poll ended at April 28th, 2025, 9:17 pm

People's National Movement (PNM)
23
48%
United National Congress (UNC) + Coalition of Interests (PEP, COP, OWTU, LOVE)
21
44%
Patriotic Front (PF)
2
4%
Tie/Deadlock
2
4%
 
Total votes: 48

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Postby hover11 » March 30th, 2025, 7:54 am

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hover11 wrote:Just leaving this here, i say bring back Hinds the Shitehound FB_IMG_1743334458646.jpg

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One on the left was a police officer as well though
For how long though and if Marvin had national security experience why wasn't he placed there in the first place instead of shitehound Hinds. PNM making some kinda moves I really don't understand. Hinds , imbert and camille did nothing for the country and have ZERO qualifications for the portfolios they handled

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Postby Redress10 » March 30th, 2025, 8:06 am

hover11 wrote:
Redress10 wrote:
hover11 wrote:Just leaving this here, i say bring back Hinds the Shitehound FB_IMG_1743334458646.jpg

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One on the left was a police officer as well though
For how long though and if Marvin had national security experience why wasn't he placed there in the first place instead of shitehound Hinds. PNM making some kinda moves I really don't understand. Hinds , imbert and camille did nothing for the country and have ZERO qualifications for the portfolios they handled

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Hovie

Is barely 8 in the morning. Too early for you to be frothing up already. Go and drink some hot tea or something and relax ya self.

I don't know for how long.

You don't elect ministers, you elect members of parliament. Being a minister has nothing to do with competence and qualifications. A minister serves at the prime minister's request. A prime minister could make an entire cabinent without any members of parliament. Go read ya constitution

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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby alfa » March 30th, 2025, 9:09 am

Hooves I see inside front page of today's express the UNC posted a labor manifesto. Pic to large to upload, but it sounding good including reducing contract work in state enterprises and renewed collective bargaining against the 4 percent.
Think they can actually afford all that or just election gimmicks?

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Postby hover11 » March 30th, 2025, 9:15 am

alfa wrote:Hooves I see inside front page of today's express the UNC posted a labor manifesto. Pic to large to upload, but it sounding good including reducing contract work in state enterprises and renewed collective bargaining against the 4 percent.
Think they can actually afford all that or just election gimmicks?
Alfa ,

When PSA president was speaking on the podium last night she said that unc willing to begin at 10 percent negotiations.....that is what we talking about. An ultimatum of 4 percent take it or leave it could never be labelled as negotiations. I think they have the ability to because they did it before based on past performances. I believe PNM paints the illusion that the country have no money alfa because when Rowley accepted SRC proposal the money was distributed to all ministries forthwith in a matter of DAYS. Their salary increase along with their backpay. So the money is there don't let nobody fool you they just want the money for themselves and friends/family.

One million dollars doesn't just appear out of thin air to pay the PM if the money wasn't there

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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby Redress10 » March 30th, 2025, 9:28 am

hover11 wrote:
alfa wrote:Hooves I see inside front page of today's express the UNC posted a labor manifesto. Pic to large to upload, but it sounding good including reducing contract work in state enterprises and renewed collective bargaining against the 4 percent.
Think they can actually afford all that or just election gimmicks?
Alfa ,

When PSA president was speaking on the podium last night she said that unc willing to begin at 10 percent negotiations.....that is what we talking about. An ultimatum of 4 percent take it or leave it could never be labelled as negotiations. I think they have the ability to because they did it before based on past performances. I believe PNM paints the illusion that the country have no money alfa because when Rowley accepted SRC proposal the money was distributed to all ministries forthwith in a matter of DAYS. Their salary increase along with their backpay. So the money is there don't let nobody fool you they just want the money for themselves and friends/family.

One million dollars doesn't just appear out of thin air to pay the PM if the money wasn't there

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You comparing a million dollar payment to a multi billion dollar recurrent expenditure payment for public servants if they get a 10%+ increase in salary and pension contirbutions etc. You do the calculations for what 10% plus salary increase will mean in terms of recurrent expenditure?
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Postby hover11 » March 30th, 2025, 9:33 am

Redress10 wrote:
hover11 wrote:
alfa wrote:Hooves I see inside front page of today's express the UNC posted a labor manifesto. Pic to large to upload, but it sounding good including reducing contract work in state enterprises and renewed collective bargaining against the 4 percent.
Think they can actually afford all that or just election gimmicks?
Alfa ,

When PSA president was speaking on the podium last night she said that unc willing to begin at 10 percent negotiations.....that is what we talking about. An ultimatum of 4 percent take it or leave it could never be labelled as negotiations. I think they have the ability to because they did it before based on past performances. I believe PNM paints the illusion that the country have no money alfa because when Rowley accepted SRC proposal the money was distributed to all ministries forthwith in a matter of DAYS. Their salary increase along with their backpay. So the money is there don't let nobody fool you they just want the money for themselves and friends/family.

One million dollars doesn't just appear out of thin air to pay the PM if the money wasn't there

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You comparing a million dollar payment to a multi billion dollar recurrent expenditure payment for public servants if they get a 10%+ increase in salary and pension contirbutions etc. You do the calculations for what 10% plus salary increase will mean in terms of recurrent expenditure?

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The money is there sir. Don't let that picture of doom and gloom fool you . Lemme ask you something would you want to be managing a failing business or simply move on to another venture? If things so bad in the country why politicians want us to vote them back in. If things so bad as they make it seem that the country catching it's arse. I can't picture two oil booms and this country just magically broke just like that. I giving UNC a chance I fed up of the BS excuse PNM gave for the past ten years I want better . I tired of hearing the rich must get richer and trickle down shite. This government not serving the ppl they serving the 1 percent and need to go.

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Postby hover11 » March 30th, 2025, 9:42 am

This is what performance looks like
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Postby paid_influencer » March 30th, 2025, 10:09 am

keep is mind is 10% increase to wages which are more than a decade old. when you annualise it out it isn't really something to talk about

that thing on shifting back from contract labour to permanent jobs is a big deal tho
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Postby hover11 » March 30th, 2025, 10:30 am

paid_influencer wrote:keep is mind is 10% increase to wages which are more than a decade old. when you annualise it out it isn't really something to talk about
Exactly these ppl owing workers THREE collective bargaining periods......that is three backpays. 2014-2016,2017-2020, 2021-2024. I wonder if ppl realize that backpay stimulates the economy as workers would have more disposable income

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Postby paid_influencer » March 30th, 2025, 10:32 am

I see a man in the meeting holding up a sign saying he on 2009 wages or some madness.

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Postby hover11 » March 30th, 2025, 10:34 am

paid_influencer wrote:I see a man in the meeting holding up a sign saying he on 2009 wages or some madness.
TT POST Workers on 2010 wages and UWI administrative staff on 2008 wages.

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Battle of the ballots - How vote splitting and manufactured majorities alter T&T’s political fate

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Vote splitting and manufactured majorities have long influenced the political landscape of T&T, shaping election outcomes in ways that often do not reflect the popular vote. Under the first-past-the-post system, governments have frequently been formed with a majority of seats while securing less than 50 per cent of the votes cast.

This pattern has been evident in multiple general elections in 1991, 1995, 2001, 2007, 2010 and 2020, where divided opposition votes or systemic faults have either handed victory to a single party or forced unexpected political realignments.

From the rise of the UNC in 1991 to the coalition strategy of the People’s Partnership in 2010, the impact of vote splitting or tactical avoidance has been undeniable.

In 1991, 11 constituencies were decided by split votes, while in 2007, the number was 14.

In both of those elections, the PNM were able to win a majority of seats and form the Government with less than 50 per cent of the votes cast.

In 1995, Patrick Manning called an early election at a time when there was a prominent opinion poll that revealed that the PNM was more popular than in 1991. The poll was accurate, but the outcome was adverse to the PNM. In 1991, the PNM got 45.07 per cent of the votes to win 21 of the 36 seats. In 1995, the PNM increased its vote share to 48.76 per cent and lost four seats despite gaining an additional 3.7 per cent of the votes cast.

In 2007, the Congress of the People (COP) got 22.71 per cent of the votes and did not win a single seat, while the UNC got 29.85 per cent for 15 seats. The PNM won the election with 45.99 per cent for 26 out of 41 seats.

These trends have also been seen in Tobago House of Assembly elections. In the 2001 THA elections, the PNM won 8-4 with 46.73 per cent of the votes cast. If the then Tobago-bred PEP and the UNC had not contested the elections, the NAR might have won it 7-5, as there were split votes in Black Rock/Whim, L’Anse Fourmi/Speyside and Belle Garden/Goodwood, which could have been favourable to the NAR without those splits.

With another election on the horizon and several parties poised to contest Tobago’s two parliamentary seats, the stage is set once again for a critical question: who will divide the vote, and who will benefit?

1991 general election

PNM (45.07% votes-21 seats), UNC (29.2%-13 seats), NAR (24.62%-2 seats). Turnout: 65.76%.

In this election, the UNC that was formed in 1989 was making its first foray into the general election arena. The NAR had been fractured by the split in 1988/1989 out of which the UNC was born. Despite winning a sizeable amount of votes in T&T, the NAR only won the two seats in Tobago, while the UNC won 13 seats in Trinidad.

1995 general election

PNM (48.76%-17 seats), UNC (45.76%-17 seats), NAR (4.76%-2 seats). Turnout: 63.30%.

In this election, there was a hung Parliament. A key event was that the PNM increased its vote share from 45.07% in 1991 to 48.76% in 1995, yet lost four seats despite gaining more votes. The UNC boosted its share from 29.2% in 1991 to 45.76% in 1995, gaining four seats. This was the opposite of what happened with the PNM. The NAR, which dropped from 24.62% in 1991 to 4.76% in 1995, still managed to hold on to its two Tobago seats despite contesting only 19 seats overall.

2001 general election

PNM (46.51%-18 seats), UNC (49.90%-18 seats). Turnout: 66.13%.

In this election, the results ended in an 18-18 tie, with the UNC receiving 49.90% of the votes and the PNM securing 46.51%.

The tie was broken by then president Robinson, who revoked the appointment of Basdeo Panday as prime minister and appointed the leader of the opposition, Patrick Manning, as PM.

2007 general election

PNM (45.99%-26 seats), UNC (29.85%-15 seats), COP (22.71%-0 seats). Turnout: 66.21%.

In this election, a significant split between the UNC and the newly formed Congress of the People (COP) opened the door to a PNM victory, with 45.99% of the votes and 26 out of 41 seats. The UNC secured 15 seats with 29.85% of the votes, while the COP, despite receiving 22.71% of the votes, won no seats.

2010 general election

PNM (39.70%-12 seats out of 41), UNC (43.72%-21 seats out of 29), COP (14.12%-6 seats out of 10), TOP (2.12%-2 seats out of 2). The People’s Partnership government was formed by a supersized coalition between UNC, COP and TOP. Turnout: 69.88%.

In this election, a partnership between the UNC, the COP and the Tobago Organisation of the People (TOP) was worked out ahead of the election to oppose the PNM. This formula aimed to prevent vote-splitting, which had been an issue in 2007. By strategically avoiding competition with each other, the coalition effectively consolidated votes. As a result, although no party individually secured more than 50% of the total votes cast, the coalition combined to win 29 out of 41 seats because of the strategy of tactical avoidance of each other which prevented vote splitting. This outcome was a major victory for the coalition.

2020 general election

PNM (49.05%-22 seats), UNC (47.14%-19 seats). Turnout: 58.08%.

In this election, there was a manufactured majority in favour of the PNM, as they polled less than 50% of the votes cast and won 22 out of 41 seats. The UNC only contested 39 seats in Trinidad and won 309,654 votes to win 19 seats. The PNM contested in Trinidad and in Tobago, securing 322,180 votes to win 22 seats. Delving deeper into the cause of the manufactured majority for the PNM, one finds that in a head-to-head matchup between the UNC and the PNM calculated in Trinidad only, the PNM got 305,850 votes for 20 seats as against the 309,654 votes for the UNC which got 19 seats.

Manufactured majorities in THA elections

The 2000, 2002, and 2015 general elections were the only ones that did not result in manufactured majorities. However, this phenomenon has not been limited to general elections; it has also occurred in THA elections, particularly when strong third parties contested, such as in January 2001.

In that year, there was an ongoing dispute between then prime minister Basdeo Panday and president ANR Robinson over Robinson’s refusal of Panday’s request to appoint seven defeated candidates as senators and ministers.

In retaliation, Panday decided to insert the UNC into the THA elections between the NAR, the PNM and the then People’s Empowerment Party (PEP) (not to be confused with the PEP of today). This move resulted in vote-splitting, allowing the PNM to secure majority control of the THA. Without the UNC and PEP, the election could have ended in a 7-5 victory for the NAR, instead of the 8-4 victory for the PNM.

2001 THA elections

The PNM got 46.73 per cent of the votes cast, the NAR got 38.44 per cent, the UNC 7.82 per cent, and the PEP 7.01 per cent. If the UNC and the PEP had not contested that election, it is possible that the NAR could have won Black Rock/Whim, L’Anse Fourmi/Speyside and Belle Garden/Goodwood because of the split votes there.

Panday got his revenge on Robinson as the NAR had been removed from power in Tobago, and, on February 14, a few weeks after that election on January 29, 2001, Robinson started appointing defeated UNC candidates as senators and ministers, as had been requested by Panday since December 20, 2000.

In the upcoming general election in Tobago, there are likely to be five parties contesting the two seats, namely the PNM, the Tobago People’s Party (TPP), the Progressive Democratic Patriots (PDP), the Innovative Democratic Alliance (IDA), and the Patriotic Front (PF). The UNC is not contesting in Tobago. Who will split from whom?

Prof Hamid Ghany is a Professor of Constitutional Affairs and Parliamentary Studies at The University of the West Indies (UWI). He was also appointed an Honorary Professor of The UWI upon his retirement in October 2021. He continues his research and publications and also does some teaching at The UWI.

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Postby hover11 » March 30th, 2025, 12:13 pm

Why is Errol Fabien going up for point fortin under gray Griffith party

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Postby paid_influencer » March 30th, 2025, 1:08 pm

^ this is a good question. a next question is why is the NTA contesting 14 seats to begin with.

Can't form a govt with 14 seats. can't even be an opposition with 14 seats.

is it straight up a ploy to split votes ?

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Postby hover11 » March 30th, 2025, 1:39 pm

paid_influencer wrote:^ this is a good question. a next question is why is the NTA contesting 14 seats to begin with.

Can't form a govt with 14 seats. can't even be an opposition with 14 seats.

is it straight up a ploy to split votes ?
Gary just doing this to badmind PNM and UNC because no party wants anything to do with him.


Sidenote:Anybody know where I can get one of those blue UNC jerseys/polos?

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Postby bluefete » March 30th, 2025, 3:29 pm

AI and real money spending.



Before Zoom PNM people come for me:

Dominic Romain

As for your claim that the PNM has nothing to show after 10 years, credibility is important.

WHAT THE PNM DID IN THE LAST 10 YEARS:

FISCAL & SOCIAL MEASURES:
▪︎ Personal allowance increased to 90K. This means that if you're earning less than $7500, you don't pay income tax.
▪︎ VAT was decreased to 12.5% on all purchase.
▪︎ Grants to home owner whose salary is under $6000 to repair their homes.
▪︎ 1st time homeowners pay NO STAMP DUTY for homes purchased for $2M and under as opposed to $850K under the PP.
▪︎ $20K Grant for entrepreneurs
▪︎ $500M allocated to FCB to provide low interest loans to small and medium business. Loans 100% guaranteed by government.
▪︎ Housing and Village Improvement Program(HVIP) - You provide the land and the Govt will build low cost homes , through small contractors.

INFRASTRUCTURAL PROJECTS
▪︎ New Ministry of Health Building
▪︎ The San Fernando Waterfront project
▪︎ NAPA repaired for 20 Million as opposed to the UNC Proposal of 100million.
▪︎ President House - 89 million as opposed to the UNC 169m proposal.
▪︎ Community Swimming Pools
▪︎ Magnificent Seven buildings refurbished
▪︎ Brian Lara Stadium
▪︎ Renovation to Red House
▪︎ Arima Hospital at a cost of $200M LESS than budgeted by the PP
▪︎ 600 homes built for low income families at a cost of $175K
▪︎ Diego Martin Health Centre
▪︎ Diego Martin Sports Complex
▪︎ Diego Martin Library
▪︎ Rio Claro Library
▪︎ Mayaro Library (to be completed)
▪︎ Carenage Police Station
▪︎ 18 new Community Centres
▪︎ Reduced government’s annual rent bill by over $130M with the commissioning of government campus.
▪︎ Built over 6000 houses.
▪︎ Completed all housing projects that the PP abandoned in 2010.
▪︎ Built 3 new licensing offices.
▪︎ Carenage fishing Depot & Carenage fish fry
▪︎ Maracas beach / Macqueripe beach upgrade.
▪︎ ⁠Invaders Bay continued development - to include a variety of commercial and recreational facilities, plus a boardwalk to connect to the Port of Spain city centre
▪︎ Diego Martin Administrative Complex
▪︎ ⁠Local app TT - launched by the ministry of Local Government to facilitate timely reporting and resolution of problems.

TRANSPORTATION & ROAD NETWORK
▪︎ 4 boats between Tobago and Trinidad & 1 cargo ship
▪︎ Tobago New Airport
▪︎ Diego Martin Interchange
▪︎ The Curepe interchange was completed at a cost of $221M but UNC plan was to build it for $440M.
▪︎ 1st phase of highway to Toco completed.
▪︎ Regional ferry service alliance with Guyana and Barbados

YOUTH DEVELOPMENT & TRAINING
▪︎ Homestead programme
▪︎ 1000 entrepreneurs by 2025
▪︎ Training programme for youth in the manufacturing sector
▪︎ Transition homes for Girls ages 18 - 24
▪︎ Youth agricultural training with land grant for start
▪︎ Restoration work on
▪︎ Girls Apprenticeship Center and on Presto Presto youth camp (boys)
▪︎ 50 new courses for the youths e.g. heavy duty equipment, Fork lift, crane operators etc. While in training, one gets $500 weekly

CRIME and CRIMINALITY
▪︎ 66 new court rooms at the waterfront judicial complex.
▪︎ 34 new judges
▪︎ Abolition of preliminary inquiries
▪︎ Established virtual courts and eliminated million dollar prisoner transport.

WATER - From getting water 24/7 when the PNM came in 10 years ago, I now get it 2 days in a month. Dat is progress.
▪︎ 24 new booster stations
▪︎ 61% of the population accessing 24/7 water supply.
▪︎ People of Freeport/Granville/Lopinot/Quinam/Morne Diablo have improve water supply as of 2024.
▪︎ Built Malabar waste water treatment plant.
▪︎ 125 new wells dug
▪︎ CWIP - Community water improvement programme

ENERGY
▪︎ Renegotiated ownership stake in Atlantic LNG - Under the OLD structure, Shell and BP respectively own 54% and 40% of trains 2, 3 and 4, while NGC has 11.1% of train 4, but NO stake in Trains 2 and 3. NOW - The agreement simplifies the project's structure into ownership across all FOUR trains, which effectively reduces Shell's stake to 45%, and raises BP's stake to 45% while NGC gets a 10% share.
▪︎ Cross border alliance with Venezuela to develop the Dragon gas field
▪︎ NGC multi billion dollar profits
▪︎ Phoenix Park industrial Estate facilitating local and foreign direct investments.
▪︎ Manatee Project Started
▪︎ Mento Platform completed(EOG/BP)
▪︎ Ocelot/TOPR/Cassia Extension Projects completed - employment opportunities created.

CULTURE/TOURISM
▪︎ Headquarters for Pan Trinbago in the city of PoS
▪︎ Pan as the official national instrument.
▪︎ La Vigie lookout in Paramin
▪︎ Restoration work on the Lopinot Historical site.

HEALTH
▪︎ Pt Fortin Hospital
▪︎ Tobago Hospital
▪︎ Sangre Grande Hospital
▪︎ POS New Wing Hospital (Under construction)
▪︎ State of the art Linear Accelerator Cancer Treatment Machine

EDUCATION
• Teachers salaries raised and backpay paid in 2024
• Over 30 new schools and school blocks built
• Over 80,000 laptops distributed to students and teachers
• 20,000 Book Grants
• 600 scholarship and bursary opportunities available annually vs 400
• SEA Results online
• Primary School Music Program increased by 100%
• Remedial Education Program in 106 Schools
• Restorative Practices introduced in schools
• Student Support Services staff increased by over 250 persons

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Postby hover11 » March 30th, 2025, 3:50 pm

bluefete wrote:AI and real money spending.



Before Zoom PNM people come for me:

Dominic Romain

As for your claim that the PNM has nothing to show after 10 years, credibility is important.

WHAT THE PNM DID IN THE LAST 10 YEARS:

FISCAL & SOCIAL MEASURES:
︎ Personal allowance increased to 90K. This means that if you're earning less than $7500, you don't pay income tax.
︎ VAT was decreased to 12.5% on all purchase.
︎ Grants to home owner whose salary is under $6000 to repair their homes.
︎ 1st time homeowners pay NO STAMP DUTY for homes purchased for $2M and under as opposed to $850K under the PP.
︎ $20K Grant for entrepreneurs
︎ $500M allocated to FCB to provide low interest loans to small and medium business. Loans 100% guaranteed by government.
Housing and Village Improvement Program(HVIP) - You provide the land and the Govt will build low cost homes , through small contractors.

INFRASTRUCTURAL PROJECTS
︎ New Ministry of Health Building
︎ The San Fernando Waterfront project
︎ NAPA repaired for 20 Million as opposed to the UNC Proposal of 100million.
︎ President House - 89 million as opposed to the UNC 169m proposal.
︎ Community Swimming Pools
︎ Magnificent Seven buildings refurbished
︎ Brian Lara Stadium
︎ Renovation to Red House
︎ Arima Hospital at a cost of $200M LESS than budgeted by the PP
︎ 600 homes built for low income families at a cost of $175K
︎ Diego Martin Health Centre
︎ Diego Martin Sports Complex
︎ Diego Martin Library
︎ Rio Claro Library
︎ Mayaro Library(to be completed)
︎ Carenage Police Station
︎ 18 new Community Centres
︎ Reduced government’s annual rent bill by over $130M with the commissioning of government campus.
︎ Built over 6000 houses.
Completed all housing projects that the PP abandoned in 2010.
︎ Built 3 new licensing offices.
︎ Carenage fishing Depot & Carenage fish fry
︎ Maracas beach / Macqueripe beach upgrade.
︎ ⁠Invaders Bay continued development - to include a variety of commercial and recreational facilities, plus a boardwalk to connect to the Port of Spain city centre
︎ Diego Martin Administrative Complex
︎ ⁠Local app TT - launched by the ministry of Local Government to facilitate timely reporting and resolution of problems.
TRANSPORTATION & ROAD NETWORK
︎ 4 boats between Tobago and Trinidad & 1 cargo ship
︎ Tobago New Airport
︎ Diego Martin Interchange
︎ The Curepe interchange was completed at a cost of $221M but UNC plan was to build it for $440M.
︎ 1st phase of highway to Toco completed.
︎ Regional ferry service alliance with Guyana and Barbados

YOUTH DEVELOPMENT & TRAINING
︎ Homestead programme
︎ 1000 entrepreneurs by 2025
︎ Training programme for youth in the manufacturing sector
︎ Transition homes for Girls ages 18 - 24
︎ Youth agricultural training with land grant for start
︎ Restoration work on
Girls Apprenticeship Center and on Presto Presto youth camp (boys)
︎ 50 new courses for the youths e.g. heavy duty equipment, Fork lift, crane operators etc. While in training, one gets $500 weekly

CRIME and CRIMINALITY
︎ 66 new court rooms at the waterfront judicial complex.
︎ 34 new judges
︎ Abolition of preliminary inquiries
︎ Established virtual courts and eliminated million dollar prisoner transport.

WATER - From getting water 24/7 when the PNM came in 10 years ago, I now get it 2 days in a month. Dat is progress.
︎ 24 new booster stations
︎ 61% of the population accessing 24/7 water supply.
People of Freeport/Granville/Lopinot/Quinam/Morne Diablo have improve water supple as of 2024.
︎ Built Malabar waste water treatment plant.
︎ 125 new wells dug
︎ CWIP - Community water improvement programme

ENERGY
︎ Renegotiated ownership stake in Atlantic LNG - Under the OLD structure, Shell and BP respectively own 54% and 40% of trains 2, 3 and 4, while NGC has 11.1% of train 4, but NO stake in Trains 2 and 3.
NOW - The agreement simplifies the project's structure into ownership across all FOUR trains, which effectively reduces Shell's stake to 45%, and raises BP's stake to 45% while NGC gets a 10% share.
︎ Cross border alliance with Venezuela to develop the Dragon gas field
︎ NGC multi billion dollar profits
︎ Phoenix Park industrial Estate facilitating local and foreign direct investments.
︎ Manatee Project Started
︎ Mento Platform completed(EOG/BP)
︎ Ocelot/TOPR/Cassia Extension Projects completed - employment opportunities created.
CULTURE/TOURISM
︎ Headquarters for Pan Trinbago in the city of PoS
︎ Pan as the official national instrument.
︎ La Vigie lookout in Paramin
︎ Restoration work on the Lopinot Historical site.
HEALTH
︎ Pt Fortin Hospital
︎ Tobago Hospital
︎ Sangre Grande Hospital
︎ POS New Wing Hospital(Under construction)
︎ State of the art Linear Accelerator Cancer Treatment Machine
EDUCATION
• Teachers salaries raised and backpay paid in 2024
• Over 30 new schools and school blocks built
• Over 80,000 laptops distributed to students and teachers
• 20,000 Book Grants
• 600 scholarship and bursary opportunities available annually vs 400
• SEA Results online
• Primary School Music Program increased by 100%
• Remedial Education Program in 106 Schools
• Restorative Practices introduced in schools
• Student Support Services staff increased by over 250 persons
Now my question is if PNM saying they did all that and all those lovely things why is the man on the ground, the average man not happy with the current state of affairs?

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Postby PariaMan » March 30th, 2025, 3:59 pm

The election is all about if an individual finds they are worse off or better off after 10years under the PNM.

My opinion is that most people will find that they are worse off.

If thats the case, then what's the sense of putting back the PNM to be even worse off after another five years

Also, the most fundamental thing the citizens need is security so that they can be alive to live their best life.

THE PNM HAD BEEN A TOTAL FAILURE AS REGARDS TO THIS.

Any right thinking person will vote then straight out of office
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Postby paid_influencer » March 30th, 2025, 4:00 pm

in case anybody was going to the fridge, hear it from young himself



Young also said in the meeting/video that PNM raised pension from 4500 to 5500. i chit you not, it is in the video

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Postby hover11 » March 30th, 2025, 4:06 pm

paid_influencer wrote:in case anybody was going to the fridge, hear it from young himself



Young also said in the meeting/video that PNM raised pension from 4500 to 5500. i chit you not, it is in the video

i though pension was $3500 max so i kinda confused
https://social.gov.tt/senior-citizens-pension/
He talking a pack of shite social welfare pension has always been 3500 since kamla increased it in her tenure, what PNM did was simply increase the cap one earns from one both NIB and Social welfare it was 4500 and they simply increased the cap to $5000. That's all they did in their 10 years

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Postby paid_influencer » March 30th, 2025, 4:11 pm

I thinking about that slip up or whatever, and I narrow it down to three possibilities

(1) He genuinely mis-spoke and intended to say he raised the qualifying income and not raise the pension, or

(2) he genuinely thinks the PNM raised pensions from $4500 to $5500, completely unaware that elderly poor people still living on $3500/month and that has no been raised in the last decade.

either way it horrible for him to make that mistake, particularly when attacking the UNC for lying, and even more horrible for the PNM to be putting it in an political advertisement.

poor people, put allyuh self first this election. if you don't, is you to feel !
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Postby Redress10 » March 30th, 2025, 4:15 pm

hover11 wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:^ this is a good question. a next question is why is the NTA contesting 14 seats to begin with.

Can't form a govt with 14 seats. can't even be an opposition with 14 seats.

is it straight up a ploy to split votes ?
Gary just doing this to badmind PNM and UNC because no party wants anything to do with him.


Sidenote:Anybody know where I can get one of those blue UNC jerseys/polos?


Check ya constituency reps. They should have.

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Postby paid_influencer » March 30th, 2025, 4:17 pm

Dowlath take over where Pagoda restaurant was opposite naps, you could check him. You can park where pagoda had their car park (plz don't park on the roadside)

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Postby hover11 » March 30th, 2025, 4:18 pm

Young is so clueless
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Postby paid_influencer » March 30th, 2025, 4:34 pm

man say UNC never raise pension but he raise it twice

and say UNC lying, as if PNM didn't bring bill to parliament to disqualify you from pension if you have over $25,000 in savings

again, poor people, if you let this happen it on you !!!

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Postby Dizzy28 » March 30th, 2025, 4:34 pm

bluefete wrote:AI and real money spending.



Before Zoom PNM people come for me:

Dominic Romain

As for your claim that the PNM has nothing to show after 10 years, credibility is important.

WHAT THE PNM DID IN THE LAST 10 YEARS:

FISCAL & SOCIAL MEASURES:
︎ Personal allowance increased to 90K. This means that if you're earning less than $7500, you don't pay income tax.
︎ VAT was decreased to 12.5% on all purchase.
︎ Grants to home owner whose salary is under $6000 to repair their homes.
︎ 1st time homeowners pay NO STAMP DUTY for homes purchased for $2M and under as opposed to $850K under the PP.
︎ $20K Grant for entrepreneurs
︎ $500M allocated to FCB to provide low interest loans to small and medium business. Loans 100% guaranteed by government.
Housing and Village Improvement Program(HVIP) - You provide the land and the Govt will build low cost homes , through small contractors.

INFRASTRUCTURAL PROJECTS
︎ New Ministry of Health Building
︎ The San Fernando Waterfront project
︎ NAPA repaired for 20 Million as opposed to the UNC Proposal of 100million.
︎ President House - 89 million as opposed to the UNC 169m proposal.
︎ Community Swimming Pools
︎ Magnificent Seven buildings refurbished
︎ Brian Lara Stadium
︎ Renovation to Red House
︎ Arima Hospital at a cost of $200M LESS than budgeted by the PP
︎ 600 homes built for low income families at a cost of $175K
︎ Diego Martin Health Centre
︎ Diego Martin Sports Complex
︎ Diego Martin Library
︎ Rio Claro Library
︎ Mayaro Library(to be completed)
︎ Carenage Police Station
︎ 18 new Community Centres
︎ Reduced government’s annual rent bill by over $130M with the commissioning of government campus.
︎ Built over 6000 houses.
Completed all housing projects that the PP abandoned in 2010.
︎ Built 3 new licensing offices.
︎ Carenage fishing Depot & Carenage fish fry
︎ Maracas beach / Macqueripe beach upgrade.
︎ ⁠Invaders Bay continued development - to include a variety of commercial and recreational facilities, plus a boardwalk to connect to the Port of Spain city centre
︎ Diego Martin Administrative Complex
︎ ⁠Local app TT - launched by the ministry of Local Government to facilitate timely reporting and resolution of problems.
TRANSPORTATION & ROAD NETWORK
︎ 4 boats between Tobago and Trinidad & 1 cargo ship
︎ Tobago New Airport
︎ Diego Martin Interchange
︎ The Curepe interchange was completed at a cost of $221M but UNC plan was to build it for $440M.
︎ 1st phase of highway to Toco completed.
︎ Regional ferry service alliance with Guyana and Barbados

YOUTH DEVELOPMENT & TRAINING
︎ Homestead programme
︎ 1000 entrepreneurs by 2025
︎ Training programme for youth in the manufacturing sector
︎ Transition homes for Girls ages 18 - 24
︎ Youth agricultural training with land grant for start
︎ Restoration work on
Girls Apprenticeship Center and on Presto Presto youth camp (boys)
︎ 50 new courses for the youths e.g. heavy duty equipment, Fork lift, crane operators etc. While in training, one gets $500 weekly

CRIME and CRIMINALITY
︎ 66 new court rooms at the waterfront judicial complex.
︎ 34 new judges
︎ Abolition of preliminary inquiries
︎ Established virtual courts and eliminated million dollar prisoner transport.

WATER - From getting water 24/7 when the PNM came in 10 years ago, I now get it 2 days in a month. Dat is progress.
︎ 24 new booster stations
︎ 61% of the population accessing 24/7 water supply.
People of Freeport/Granville/Lopinot/Quinam/Morne Diablo have improve water supple as of 2024.
︎ Built Malabar waste water treatment plant.
︎ 125 new wells dug
︎ CWIP - Community water improvement programme

ENERGY
︎ Renegotiated ownership stake in Atlantic LNG - Under the OLD structure, Shell and BP respectively own 54% and 40% of trains 2, 3 and 4, while NGC has 11.1% of train 4, but NO stake in Trains 2 and 3.
NOW - The agreement simplifies the project's structure into ownership across all FOUR trains, which effectively reduces Shell's stake to 45%, and raises BP's stake to 45% while NGC gets a 10% share.
︎ Cross border alliance with Venezuela to develop the Dragon gas field
︎ NGC multi billion dollar profits
︎ Phoenix Park industrial Estate facilitating local and foreign direct investments.
︎ Manatee Project Started
︎ Mento Platform completed(EOG/BP)
︎ Ocelot/TOPR/Cassia Extension Projects completed - employment opportunities created.
CULTURE/TOURISM
︎ Headquarters for Pan Trinbago in the city of PoS
︎ Pan as the official national instrument.
︎ La Vigie lookout in Paramin
︎ Restoration work on the Lopinot Historical site.
HEALTH
︎ Pt Fortin Hospital
︎ Tobago Hospital
︎ Sangre Grande Hospital
︎ POS New Wing Hospital(Under construction)
︎ State of the art Linear Accelerator Cancer Treatment Machine
EDUCATION
• Teachers salaries raised and backpay paid in 2024
• Over 30 new schools and school blocks built
• Over 80,000 laptops distributed to students and teachers
• 20,000 Book Grants
• 600 scholarship and bursary opportunities available annually vs 400
• SEA Results online
• Primary School Music Program increased by 100%
• Remedial Education Program in 106 Schools
• Restorative Practices introduced in schools
• Student Support Services staff increased by over 250 persons
They really listing Brian Lara Stadium??

Initiated for the 2007 World Cup and opened more than ten years late and more than a billion and a half over budget??

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Postby hover11 » March 30th, 2025, 4:39 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
bluefete wrote:AI and real money spending.



Before Zoom PNM people come for me:

Dominic Romain

As for your claim that the PNM has nothing to show after 10 years, credibility is important.

WHAT THE PNM DID IN THE LAST 10 YEARS:

FISCAL & SOCIAL MEASURES:
︎ Personal allowance increased to 90K. This means that if you're earning less than $7500, you don't pay income tax.
︎ VAT was decreased to 12.5% on all purchase.
︎ Grants to home owner whose salary is under $6000 to repair their homes.
︎ 1st time homeowners pay NO STAMP DUTY for homes purchased for $2M and under as opposed to $850K under the PP.
︎ $20K Grant for entrepreneurs
︎ $500M allocated to FCB to provide low interest loans to small and medium business. Loans 100% guaranteed by government.
Housing and Village Improvement Program(HVIP) - You provide the land and the Govt will build low cost homes , through small contractors.

INFRASTRUCTURAL PROJECTS
︎ New Ministry of Health Building
︎ The San Fernando Waterfront project
︎ NAPA repaired for 20 Million as opposed to the UNC Proposal of 100million.
︎ President House - 89 million as opposed to the UNC 169m proposal.
︎ Community Swimming Pools
︎ Magnificent Seven buildings refurbished
︎ Brian Lara Stadium
︎ Renovation to Red House
︎ Arima Hospital at a cost of $200M LESS than budgeted by the PP
︎ 600 homes built for low income families at a cost of $175K
︎ Diego Martin Health Centre
︎ Diego Martin Sports Complex
︎ Diego Martin Library
︎ Rio Claro Library
︎ Mayaro Library(to be completed)
︎ Carenage Police Station
︎ 18 new Community Centres
︎ Reduced government’s annual rent bill by over $130M with the commissioning of government campus.
︎ Built over 6000 houses.
Completed all housing projects that the PP abandoned in 2010.
︎ Built 3 new licensing offices.
︎ Carenage fishing Depot & Carenage fish fry
︎ Maracas beach / Macqueripe beach upgrade.
︎ ⁠Invaders Bay continued development - to include a variety of commercial and recreational facilities, plus a boardwalk to connect to the Port of Spain city centre
︎ Diego Martin Administrative Complex
︎ ⁠Local app TT - launched by the ministry of Local Government to facilitate timely reporting and resolution of problems.
TRANSPORTATION & ROAD NETWORK
︎ 4 boats between Tobago and Trinidad & 1 cargo ship
︎ Tobago New Airport
︎ Diego Martin Interchange
︎ The Curepe interchange was completed at a cost of $221M but UNC plan was to build it for $440M.
︎ 1st phase of highway to Toco completed.
︎ Regional ferry service alliance with Guyana and Barbados

YOUTH DEVELOPMENT & TRAINING
︎ Homestead programme
︎ 1000 entrepreneurs by 2025
︎ Training programme for youth in the manufacturing sector
︎ Transition homes for Girls ages 18 - 24
︎ Youth agricultural training with land grant for start
︎ Restoration work on
Girls Apprenticeship Center and on Presto Presto youth camp (boys)
︎ 50 new courses for the youths e.g. heavy duty equipment, Fork lift, crane operators etc. While in training, one gets $500 weekly

CRIME and CRIMINALITY
︎ 66 new court rooms at the waterfront judicial complex.
︎ 34 new judges
︎ Abolition of preliminary inquiries
︎ Established virtual courts and eliminated million dollar prisoner transport.

WATER - From getting water 24/7 when the PNM came in 10 years ago, I now get it 2 days in a month. Dat is progress.
︎ 24 new booster stations
︎ 61% of the population accessing 24/7 water supply.
People of Freeport/Granville/Lopinot/Quinam/Morne Diablo have improve water supple as of 2024.
︎ Built Malabar waste water treatment plant.
︎ 125 new wells dug
︎ CWIP - Community water improvement programme

ENERGY
︎ Renegotiated ownership stake in Atlantic LNG - Under the OLD structure, Shell and BP respectively own 54% and 40% of trains 2, 3 and 4, while NGC has 11.1% of train 4, but NO stake in Trains 2 and 3.
NOW - The agreement simplifies the project's structure into ownership across all FOUR trains, which effectively reduces Shell's stake to 45%, and raises BP's stake to 45% while NGC gets a 10% share.
︎ Cross border alliance with Venezuela to develop the Dragon gas field
︎ NGC multi billion dollar profits
︎ Phoenix Park industrial Estate facilitating local and foreign direct investments.
︎ Manatee Project Started
︎ Mento Platform completed(EOG/BP)
︎ Ocelot/TOPR/Cassia Extension Projects completed - employment opportunities created.
CULTURE/TOURISM
︎ Headquarters for Pan Trinbago in the city of PoS
︎ Pan as the official national instrument.
︎ La Vigie lookout in Paramin
︎ Restoration work on the Lopinot Historical site.
HEALTH
︎ Pt Fortin Hospital
︎ Tobago Hospital
︎ Sangre Grande Hospital
︎ POS New Wing Hospital(Under construction)
︎ State of the art Linear Accelerator Cancer Treatment Machine
EDUCATION
• Teachers salaries raised and backpay paid in 2024
• Over 30 new schools and school blocks built
• Over 80,000 laptops distributed to students and teachers
• 20,000 Book Grants
• 600 scholarship and bursary opportunities available annually vs 400
• SEA Results online
• Primary School Music Program increased by 100%
• Remedial Education Program in 106 Schools
• Restorative Practices introduced in schools
• Student Support Services staff increased by over 250 persons
They really listing Brian Lara Stadium??

Initiated for the 2007 World Cup and opened more than ten years late and more than a billion and a half over budget??
That's PNM for you

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Postby bluefete » March 30th, 2025, 4:45 pm

Over 80,000 laptops distributed to students and teachers

Wait. PNM gave out 80,000 laptops to students and teachers? On which planet?

Teacher Percy say if you tell a lie ......

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Postby hover11 » March 30th, 2025, 4:54 pm

bluefete wrote:Over 80,000 laptops distributed to students and teachers

Wait. PNM gave out 80,000 laptops to students and teachers? On which planet?

Teacher Percy say if you tell a lie ......
Where was this posted from I'm actively looking for it

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Postby screwbash » March 30th, 2025, 5:03 pm

paid_influencer wrote:massive response for 'zander all 'e zander

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Machel hadda come out in he yellow UNC shirt ater kamla give he the 4mil for soca monarch. All hell will break loose if machel jumpout for diego west

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