What's going on in the Middle East?

[Jerry84]

Facts

Screenshot_20240116-082249_Instagram.jpg

You left out a few:

Jaffa riots 1921
Palestine riots of 1929
1933 Palestine riots in Jaffa
Arab General Strike 1936
1938 Tiberias pogrom
Haifa Oil Refinery massacre 1947

I humbly apologize but it is my belief that there are serious differences between riots and massacres, the latter being more serious .....but I stand corrected if I'm wrong.

Call them massacres if you wish, but nearly all of the incidents that you listed had 10 to 20 fatalities. The 1929 Palestinian Riots had about 250; the Arab General Strike about 320.

Prior to April 1948, the vast majority of mass killings in Mandatory Palestine were carried out by Arabs and the majority of the victims were Jews.

If you want to play the victim by nailing yourself onto a cross, there is no place better than doing it in the Holy Land.

Ok ..I understand. But the fact remains that the total number of deaths of Palestinians since Oct 7 far exceeds the total deaths from the riots listed for all those years.

Yes.

Historically, about 20 times as many Palestinians as Israelis die as a consequence of a Hamas attack on Israel.

That continues to hold true.

Actually no...putting October 7th aside or prior to October 7th, the Israeli forces have killed more Palestinians. If you do your research you would discover the great numbers of Palestinians dead at the hands of the Israeli forces, far exceeding the total number of Israeli killed in the riots listed.

[sMASH]

Facts

Screenshot_20240116-082249_Instagram.jpg

You left out a few:

Jaffa riots 1921
Palestine riots of 1929
1933 Palestine riots in Jaffa
Arab General Strike 1936
1938 Tiberias pogrom
Haifa Oil Refinery massacre 1947

I humbly apologize but it is my belief that there are serious differences between riots and massacres, the latter being more serious .....but I stand corrected if I'm wrong.

Call them massacres if you wish, but nearly all of the incidents that you listed had 10 to 20 fatalities. The 1929 Palestinian Riots had about 250; the Arab General Strike about 320.

Prior to April 1948, the vast majority of mass killings in Mandatory Palestine were carried out by Arabs and the majority of the victims were Jews.

If you want to play the victim by nailing yourself onto a cross, there is no place better than doing it in the Holy Land.

Ok ..I understand. But the fact remains that the total number of deaths of Palestinians since Oct 7 far exceeds the total deaths from the riots listed for all those years.

Yes.

Historically, about 20 times as many Palestinians as Israelis die as a consequence of a Hamas attack on Israel.

That continues to hold true.

If the persons dying are not guilty of or convicted of any offense, that's murder... Especially as they are fenced around and the gates are regulated by the people killing them.


Hamas aren't killing civilians..

[sMASH]

Idf dug up a burial site for two bodies suspected to be hostages.
Apparently the autopsy showed they died from the gasses idf using to attack hamas in the tunnels.

Its so obvious they are not trying to rescue the hostages, they not even pretending to have their safety in mind. The Isreali hostages Families demanding they rescue the captives.

The us spokespeople finding it hard to keep batting for them when it obviously fake and facing criminal prosecution.



Israel just needs to stop.

[adnj]

Facts

Screenshot_20240116-082249_Instagram.jpg

You left out a few:

Jaffa riots 1921
Palestine riots of 1929
1933 Palestine riots in Jaffa
Arab General Strike 1936
1938 Tiberias pogrom
Haifa Oil Refinery massacre 1947

I humbly apologize but it is my belief that there are serious differences between riots and massacres, the latter being more serious .....but I stand corrected if I'm wrong.

Call them massacres if you wish, but nearly all of the incidents that you listed had 10 to 20 fatalities. The 1929 Palestinian Riots had about 250; the Arab General Strike about 320.

Prior to April 1948, the vast majority of mass killings in Mandatory Palestine were carried out by Arabs and the majority of the victims were Jews.

If you want to play the victim by nailing yourself onto a cross, there is no place better than doing it in the Holy Land.

Ok ..I understand. But the fact remains that the total number of deaths of Palestinians since Oct 7 far exceeds the total deaths from the riots listed for all those years.

Yes.

Historically, about 20 times as many Palestinians as Israelis die as a consequence of a Hamas attack on Israel.

That continues to hold true.

Actually no...putting October 7th aside or prior to October 7th, the Israeli forces have killed more Palestinians. If you do your research you would discover the great numbers of Palestinians dead at the hands of the Israeli forces, far exceeding the total number of Israeli killed in the riots listed.

I know that the number of Palestinians killed far exceeds the number of Israelis. I said that.

Additionally, Israelis have had strategic advantages over the Palestinians for more than 50 years. Coupled with the settler movement that wants to eradicate Palestinians in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, there is little if any hope that cessasation of disproportionate responses or fully embracing Palestinians in the occupied territories is anything other than a pipe dream.

The number of Palestinians killed will continue to be greater than the number of Israelis so long as retaliatory strikes occur on an attacker that retreats to hide within the civilian population and the victim of the attack believes that the retaliation is warranted. It is not a new tactic.

[zoom rader]

I find it disturbing that tuner historians are claiming the land doesn't belong to the Palestinians as the Israeli people were the original occupiers of the land.

So therefore, those of you who reside in trinidad, despite you having a deed to show ownership of your property, with this mentality your property really belong to the original settlers in trinidad, the Amerindians.

If they come and claim YOUR property then, but your principle, they are the legitimate owners and could kill you and your family for it?

Thats Dizzy28 and his BS

[Dizzy28]

Israeli airstrike this morning on a compound a mere 3kms from Assads presidential palace liquidates senior IRGC members

[sMASH]

Lebanon, yemen, Iran Syria.
Iraq and Pakistan may fall in with negotiations, turkiye would lend support.

Israel has already promised it may go into Lebanon with no limits.
They also said they coudl have eliminated gaza on October 8th.

I interpret that to mean nukes.

China is economically linked to both Pakistan and Iran. Russia tied to Iran and Syria militarily .

Turkiye is on good terms with both Russia and Pakistan.
Russia is supplied by north Korea.


Israel regional neighbors (arab) are bolstering them in menial support, but not willing to stand militarily.

They only really have us and nato... Who have been depleted in Ukraine.



The Palestinians are dying, but is setting up to be the success of martyrs. The unsinkable aircraft carrier might sink

Mind u, without nukes, hesbolah alone can neutralize idf.

[Bad Dog]

No action on this thread...I'll just give it a wake up. The UAE recruited Al Qaeda members for the SA and US of A backed Yemeni Government. Dumb and Dumber knows no bounds in working and supporting terrorists.
An investigation from BBC has revealed that the UAE recruited al-Qaeda members who now work for the Southern Transitional Council (STC), a Yemeni southern separatist group that is part of the US and Saudi-backed Yemeni government.
https://news.antiwar.com/2024/01/23/inv ... overnment/

[zoom rader]

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/itv-report-ca ... 44598.html

Mudered

Dizzy28 must be proud

[Bad Dog]

They continue to steal. Earlier this month, the Gaza government media office said the Israeli army has, since 7 October, looted money, gold, and artefacts worth around $25m. Videos shared online show theft, destruction of businesses and properties, vandalism, and the installation of Israeli and Jewish symbols across Gaza’s neighbourhoods.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war- ... en-knesset

[Bad Dog]

This is how they expect to eradicate Hamas. Hundreds of Historical Archaeological Sites Destroyed in Gaza – Israeli NGO.
The Geneva-based rights group, Euro-Med Monitor, said in November that Israel deliberately destroyed archeological and historical monuments in the Gaza Strip, and accused it of “explicitly targeting Palestinian cultural heritage.”
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/hund ... raeli-ngo/

[Bad Dog]

As Palestinians surrender IDF kills them...unarmed and waiving white flag. The US of A as usual refuse to condemn the act.
The video is clear yet the spokesperson for Biden 'the liar' says he needs context.
https://news.antiwar.com/2024/01/24/sta ... hite-flag/

[Bad Dog]

Hamas and Islamic Jihad cannot go to school and there is no hope of getting an education.
All schools in Gaza have been shut and no university has survived Israel military’s more than 100 days of onslaught.
Geneva-based independent Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor said that Israel systemically destroyed every university in Gaza in stages.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/2 ... iversities

[redmanjp]

what they learning in those schools? math and science? or how to kill jews and become a terrorist?

[adnj]

How do you make Gaza Jewish?
1. Attack Israel
2. Hide in the tunnels while the civilian population above gets bombed.

Nice plan, Hamas.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/AJzlii4.png[/img]

On Sunday, the activists will hold a large conference on “Jewish settlement in Gaza” at Jerusalem’s International Convention Center that is expected to draw over 3,000 people.

The event is organized, among others, by Samaria Regional Council head Yossi Dagan, and the chairperson of the Nachala movement, Daniella Weiss, who is very active in settling and planning illegal outposts in the West Bank.

Israel’s leaders have repeatedly dismissed the idea of reestablishing settlements in Gaza, amid outright opposition from the international community, particularly Israel’s chief ally, the United States. Still, the military campaign in the Strip to fell Hamas has raised hopes among some stalwarts of the settlement movement.

“We need to take this area back and establish a settlement in Gaza,” says Dagan, “We need to start in the north of the Gaza Strip. The area where Elei Sinai, Nisanit, and Dugit used to be located… It’s close to Sderot, and that’s where the first settlements will be built.”

[wing]

what they learning in those schools? math and science? or how to kill jews and become a terrorist?

Why do you continue to encourage the extremists in here. Let them rant among themselves and the various dummy accounts of the tuner dummy.

[adnj]

Africa's Kanthole

https://en.advisor.travel/city/Kanthole-1359764

[coltspeed]

Judges in The Hague have partially granted provisional measures requested against Israel by South Africa.
Court orders Israel to take all measures to prevent genocide
The ICJ orders Israel to take all measures within its power to prevent genocide.
It says Israel must ensure its forces do not commit genocide and ensure preservation of evidence of alleged genocide.
ICJ orders Israel to report to it within one month
Israel must report to the court within a month on what it is doing to uphold the order to take all measures within its power to prevent acts of genocide in Gaza.
Judge Donoghue says the ruling creates international legal obligations for Israel.

[coltspeed]

Africa's Kanthole

https://en.advisor.travel/city/Kanthole-1359764

She Probably from here Judge Julia SEBUTINDE - Uganda

[Bad Dog]

NuttyYahoo said he would not comply with the court's ruling even before the court made a decision. At least Israel didn't get the case thrown out as they wanted. Note: Israeli judge Barak agreed with the majority on part 3 and 4 of the court's order and only judge Julia Sebutine from Uganda did not agree with the court's order.
The ICJ decides that Israel must take all measures to prevent death and injury, and provide the full scope of humanitarian needs to Palestinians which includes access to food, medicine, infrastructure, etc. Israel must file a report on the remedial actions within one month of the ruling.
Also, the U.S., UK, Germany and others can now be accused and punished for complicity of genocide if they do not immediately refrain from providing Israel the weapons to commit genocide.
So, what happens if Israel ignores the decision? The ICJ has no means of enforcing it's decision. Tuner Zionists will be Happy.
https://icj-cij.org/sites/default/files ... -00-en.pdf

[sMASH]

NuttyYahoo said he would not comply with the court's ruling even before the court made a decision. At least Israel didn't get the case thrown out as they wanted. Note: Israeli judge Barak agreed with the majority on part 3 and 4 of the court's order and only judge Julia Sebutine from Uganda did not agree with the court's order.
The ICJ decides that Israel must take all measures to prevent death and injury, and provide the full scope of humanitarian needs to Palestinians which includes access to food, medicine, infrastructure, etc. Israel must file a report on the remedial actions within one month of the ruling.
Also, the U.S., UK, Germany and others can now be accused and punished for complicity of genocide if they do not immediately refrain from providing Israel the weapons to commit genocide.
So, what happens if Israel ignores the decision? The ICJ has no means of enforcing it's decision. Tuner Zionists will be Happy.
https://icj-cij.org/sites/default/files ... -00-en.pdf

What are the repercussions for non compliance?
Who can enforce the compliance?

[Dizzy28]

NuttyYahoo said he would not comply with the court's ruling even before the court made a decision. At least Israel didn't get the case thrown out as they wanted. Note: Israeli judge Barak agreed with the majority on part 3 and 4 of the court's order and only judge Julia Sebutine from Uganda did not agree with the court's order.
The ICJ decides that Israel must take all measures to prevent death and injury, and provide the full scope of humanitarian needs to Palestinians which includes access to food, medicine, infrastructure, etc. Israel must file a report on the remedial actions within one month of the ruling.
Also, the U.S., UK, Germany and others can now be accused and punished for complicity of genocide if they do not immediately refrain from providing Israel the weapons to commit genocide.
So, what happens if Israel ignores the decision? The ICJ has no means of enforcing it's decision. Tuner Zionists will be Happy.
https://icj-cij.org/sites/default/files ... -00-en.pdf

What are the repercussions for non compliance?
Who can enforce the compliance?

Ask Putin!!

"On 16 March 2022, the court ruled 13–2 that Russia must "immediately suspend the military operations" it commenced on 24 February 2022 in Ukraine"
https://www.icj-cij.org/public/files/ca ... -00-EN.pdf
But yet here we are on January 26th 2024 and Russia is still attacking Ukraine on Ukrainian soil.

[Bad Dog]

NuttyYahoo said he would not comply with the court's ruling even before the court made a decision. At least Israel didn't get the case thrown out as they wanted. Note: Israeli judge Barak agreed with the majority on part 3 and 4 of the court's order and only judge Julia Sebutine from Uganda did not agree with the court's order.
The ICJ decides that Israel must take all measures to prevent death and injury, and provide the full scope of humanitarian needs to Palestinians which includes access to food, medicine, infrastructure, etc. Israel must file a report on the remedial actions within one month of the ruling.
Also, the U.S., UK, Germany and others can now be accused and punished for complicity of genocide if they do not immediately refrain from providing Israel the weapons to commit genocide.
So, what happens if Israel ignores the decision? The ICJ has no means of enforcing it's decision. Tuner Zionists will be Happy.
https://icj-cij.org/sites/default/files ... -00-en.pdf

What are the repercussions for non compliance?
Who can enforce the compliance?

The judgment is final, binding on the parties to a case and without appeal (at the most it may be subject to interpretation or, upon the discovery of a new fact ...
https://www.icj-cij.org › how-the-court-works
The ICJ has no enforcement powers, but if states don't comply, the ICJ can refer the state to the UNSC which may take action. Article 94 of the UN Charter creates an obligation for member States to comply with ICJ ‘decisions,’ but gives the Security Council the power to make recommendations or take measures to give effect to ‘judgments’. A State which considers that the other side has failed to perform the obligations incumbent upon it under a judgment rendered by the Court may bring the matter before the Security Council, which is empowered to recommend or decide upon measures to be taken to give effect to the judgment.

[adnj]

NuttyYahoo said he would not comply with the court's ruling even before the court made a decision. At least Israel didn't get the case thrown out as they wanted. Note: Israeli judge Barak agreed with the majority on part 3 and 4 of the court's order and only judge Julia Sebutine from Uganda did not agree with the court's order.
The ICJ decides that Israel must take all measures to prevent death and injury, and provide the full scope of humanitarian needs to Palestinians which includes access to food, medicine, infrastructure, etc. Israel must file a report on the remedial actions within one month of the ruling.
Also, the U.S., UK, Germany and others can now be accused and punished for complicity of genocide if they do not immediately refrain from providing Israel the weapons to commit genocide.
So, what happens if Israel ignores the decision? The ICJ has no means of enforcing it's decision. Tuner Zionists will be Happy.
https://icj-cij.org/sites/default/files ... -00-en.pdf

It's time to ignore the made up stuff:

ICJ ruling against Israel consistent with U.S. calls for protecting civilians, State Department says

Abigail Williams

The U.S. said today's International Court of Justice ruling is consistent with the Biden administration's own calls for Israel to minimize civilian harm, increase humanitarian assistance and address dehumanizing rhetoric, a State Department spokesperson said.

The spokesperson reiterated that the U.S. believes accusations of genocide are unfounded.

“(We) note the court did not make a finding about genocide or call for a cease-fire in its ruling and that it called for the unconditional, immediate release of all hostages being held by Hamas,” the spokesperson added.

The U.S. recognizes that the ICJ plays a vital role in the peaceful settlement of disputes, the spokesperson said, and “we will continue to monitor this proceeding as it moves forward.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/live-blog/ ... #rcrd32207

Sorry to disappoint but this outcome was inevitable. The ICJ is part of the UN. The UN is just another unofficial department of the US Government.

Hate all you want, the US still came out ahead.

[Bad Dog]

Meanwhile in the US of A, Biden the liar is accused of complicity in aiding the genocide in Gaza.
A scheduled hearing for a case accusing US President Joe Biden, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken, and US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin of complicity in Israeli against of genocide against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip will be commenced on Friday.

A US federal court in Oakland, California, will move forward with the hearing, on January 26, 2024, just after the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ordered "Israel" to adhere to several actions, including the cessation of military action that aligns with genocide.
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/pol ... n-gaza-gen

[adnj]

Meanwhile in the US of A, Biden the liar is accused of complicity in aiding the genocide in Gaza.
A scheduled hearing for a case accusing US President Joe Biden, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken, and US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin of complicity in Israeli against of genocide against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip will be commenced on Friday.

A US federal court in Oakland, California, will move forward with the hearing, on January 26, 2024, just after the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ordered "Israel" to adhere to several actions, including the cessation of military action that aligns with genocide.
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/pol ... n-gaza-gen

There was genocide?

[Dizzy28]

Meanwhile in the US of A, Biden the liar is accused of complicity in aiding the genocide in Gaza.
A scheduled hearing for a case accusing US President Joe Biden, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken, and US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin of complicity in Israeli against of genocide against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip will be commenced on Friday.

A US federal court in Oakland, California, will move forward with the hearing, on January 26, 2024, just after the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ordered "Israel" to adhere to several actions, including the cessation of military action that aligns with genocide.
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/pol ... n-gaza-gen

ROFL!!!

The Bay Area federal judge in a case accusing President Joe Biden of aiding genocide against Palestinians in Gaza has asked the opposing sides questions that appear to signal he plans to dismiss the suit because the case involves political rather than legal issues. On Wednesday, two days before a hearing in the suit by Palestinian-rights groups against Biden and two top aides, U.S. District Judge Jeffrey White of Oakland told lawyers for the plaintiffs and the government to be prepared to answer these questions: “Under what authority can the Court, in effect, exercise its judgment over and reverse United States foreign policy decisions and assess whether Israel has transgressed limits imposed by international law? How is this not a quintessential political question best left to the coordinate branches of government?” referring to the executive branch and Congress.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/ar ... 628347.php

[wing]

Meanwhile in the US of A, Biden the liar is accused of complicity in aiding the genocide in Gaza.
A scheduled hearing for a case accusing US President Joe Biden, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken, and US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin of complicity in Israeli against of genocide against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip will be commenced on Friday.

A US federal court in Oakland, California, will move forward with the hearing, on January 26, 2024, just after the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ordered "Israel" to adhere to several actions, including the cessation of military action that aligns with genocide.
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/pol ... n-gaza-gen

ROFL!!!

The Bay Area federal judge in a case accusing President Joe Biden of aiding genocide against Palestinians in Gaza has asked the opposing sides questions that appear to signal he plans to dismiss the suit because the case involves political rather than legal issues. On Wednesday, two days before a hearing in the suit by Palestinian-rights groups against Biden and two top aides, U.S. District Judge Jeffrey White of Oakland told lawyers for the plaintiffs and the government to be prepared to answer these questions: “Under what authority can the Court, in effect, exercise its judgment over and reverse United States foreign policy decisions and assess whether Israel has transgressed limits imposed by international law? How is this not a quintessential political question best left to the coordinate branches of government?” referring to the executive branch and Congress.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/ar ... 628347.php

Tail between legs

[sMASH]

If enforcement goes to unsc, us will veto that.
Us hadds be wrong and strong... Not complicit in genocide, cause there is no genocide so nothing to enforce.



Seeing that iraq bombed south Israel, hesbolah bombed another port.
Russia was patrolling Golan heights.
Yemen is getting bombed but still sanctioning Israel affiliated vessels.


Us asked China to talk to yemen, China snd everyone else laughed.

Turkiye was speaking to Iran. Pakistan and Iran are on good terms.



But Starvation and disease face the Palestinians. Israel must be made to stop bombing civilians.

[sMASH]

https://youtu.be/dlfhoU66s4Y?si=GYGVn9475WKoWaED



This was my ring tone fir years.
They was here already they Will see through this one... Though its the worst.