***2023 local elections thread****

[alfa]

Assuming the COP have an hour to spare each day to process ful applications and she spend 5 mins on each including signing the FUL or rejection letter she could do 12 per hour. The backlog is 45000, do the math and understand why the average Joe will never get one

does the law require that only the COP cud approve? if so it should be changed to allow at least other senior officers like DCPs to approve - each division should have their own officers approving applications. also is that 45000 the total amt of applicants? then im sure some of them wont pass all background checks so can be eliminated before it goes for final approval thus reducing the amt the senior officers have to approve.

The 45000 is the total amt after gary left office. I believe he said he processed 5000 and approved like 3000. The COP is the only one to put the final approval or rejection stamp so it still has to reach the COPs desk even if they are unsuitable. But yeah a system with senior officers approving like in the UK will speed up thing quite a bit

[j.o.e]

every meeting rowlee only talking about the stand your ground/empty clip issues
seems he has recognized it is a major point the citizens suffering with

KPB took a non local govt issue and made it the headline in a local govt election. So rowley hardly has to answer for potholes, flooding and delivery of services. So he will talk about emptying the clip because it’s a non issue.

[pugboy]

yeah lge totally derailed and heinz and erla ain’t gotta do squat as usual
but you never know ppl may come out to vote based on how pissed they are on the crime issues

[MaxPower]

I can only imagine how much Trini's gonna misuse this pepper spray for every lil dispute they have with friends, family, co-workers etc...

Exactly, and they want firearms?

[Ben_spanna]

What you all are not observing is that as usual, look at how long this took to get implemented,

And how many organizations/ companies are "legally allowed" to sell and distribute Pepper spray?

Watch and see, almost every form of protection or alternative energy will have to be directed through a certain governing body or organization that have rights exclusively- you think it's just random? It's all a money making scheme and we are the idiots allowing this to happen to our country.

[AbstractPoetic]

I can only imagine how much Trini's gonna misuse this pepper spray for every lil dispute they have with friends, family, co-workers etc...

Exactly, and they want firearms?

Why not? With the appropriate government, every firearm owner would be required to go through training before they obtain a license, with the requirement of having continued training to maintain their license (ie proof of attending a training program that is licensed to train pistol/concealed carry permit holders). This way, each firearm owner is aware of how to properly handle a firearm without negligent discharge, how to safeguard the firearm at home/business or on their person, and also train to help citizens understand when it is appropriate to use such force (ie imminent danger, Castle Doctrine, Stand Your Ground, etc.).

That is what proper governance looks like. But Trini's hear "light them up" and they are quick to criticize the UNC/KPB for what is nothing short of finding alternatives to a government that does not protect nor allow its citizens to step in to protect their right to life and property.

[j.o.e]

We don’t necessarily need more guns but we need a transparent and efficient way of acquiring an FUL. It’s either you meet the requirements or not and those requirements should be clear. Shouldn’t be a favour from the COP or anyone else

[Kickstart]

We don’t necessarily need more guns but we need a transparent and efficient way of acquiring an FUL. It’s either you meet the requirements or not and those requirements should be clear. Shouldn’t be a favour from the COP or anyone else

Having those is a must, but it does not solve the problem of violent home invasions.

You just being a PNM publishlist

[shake d livin wake d dead]

[j.o.e]

We don’t necessarily need more guns but we need a transparent and efficient way of acquiring an FUL. It’s either you meet the requirements or not and those requirements should be clear. Shouldn’t be a favour from the COP or anyone else

Having those is a must, but it does not solve the problem of violent home invasions.

You just being a PNM publishlist

If I wasn’t ‘a PNM’ what about my statement you disagree with ?

[Les Bain]

Nice fine print at the bottom.

Look it clearer here:

How perfect! I am allowed to carry my pepper spray in my checked luggage if flying from USA borders (TSA allows 4 ounces), but suspect once I land in Trinidad, TTPS would step in and likely arrest me because I don't possess a permit to carry one to protect myself. How advance a country TT is!

No, they'd likely confiscate it as they would a camo thong, onesie game console controller.
You'd then be free to contact the 1% security company to get a smaller canister that's likely less potent than the spray you brought in. Everybody wins (though that win ratio would be skewed in favour of whoever owns Amalgamated).

[ruffneck_12]

We don’t necessarily need more guns but we need a transparent and efficient way of acquiring an FUL. It’s either you meet the requirements or not and those requirements should be clear. Shouldn’t be a favour from the COP or anyone else

Having those is a must, but it does not solve the problem of violent home invasions.

You just being a PNM publishlist

That's kinda true, but using the analogy of ants.

The best bet is to just nuke the nest like El Salvador... But we can't because "dem was good bois, he was a future doctor" mentality

But the least we can do hoss, is to protect ourselves. the LEAST

Even if the amount of home invasions remain the same, at least you can stop it from happening to your home.....

That sound good?

We voting for whoever streamline the FUL/firearm acquisition easily btw. Ik some politicians reading this right now.

[redmanjp]

to get a FUL do u have to get a certificate of character? cuz that's a next issue here. that fingerprint server cost money to maintain which the ttps doesn't have.

would you all be willing to pay lets say a $50-100 fee for the COC?

[paid_influencer]

to get a FUL do u have to get a certificate of character? cuz that's a next issue here. that fingerprint server cost money to maintain which the ttps doesn't have.

would you all be willing to pay lets say a $50-100 fee for the COC?

yes i would legit do that and on a moral level i think it is good for society. certificate of character being free makes it seem like an entitlement rather than something of worth and value

i think is the best idea i hear whole week and u should go up for govt. my chupid local govt candidate for UNC put up a big wooden poster that around a blind corner that blocking visibility further. dotish m,c. i voting phillip

[j.o.e]

to get a FUL do u have to get a certificate of character? cuz that's a next issue here. that fingerprint server cost money to maintain which the ttps doesn't have.

would you all be willing to pay lets say a $50-100 fee for the COC?

It’s free ? So long since I dealt with that I always thought you paid a lil $40 or something

[paid_influencer]

TTPS website say is $50

i agree we should raise to $100 tho

[alfa]

to get a FUL do u have to get a certificate of character? cuz that's a next issue here. that fingerprint server cost money to maintain which the ttps doesn't have.

would you all be willing to pay lets say a $50-100 fee for the COC?

It’s free ? So long since I dealt with that I always thought you paid a lil $40 or something

The COC is one of many documents needed for an FUL, it's $50. I don't know if they have a fingerprint server cuz when you go you have to ink up your hands with a black paste and put your prints on a sheet a la 1950's style and they send you by a concrete sink to wash your hand with some breeze lol. Not even a napkin self

[maj. tom]

Nah they have a regular scanning machine now like phone fingerprint sensors with all the data on the touch screen, just have to rub lotion in your hands first. They have a bottle near the machine. Well if the machine working, or else is old school ink roller.

Beyond that, the process could be more computerized and automated to get results faster and more efficiently.

[redmanjp]

^ is the same server that went down for months last year so ppl couldn't get COC. but word is that it going to be upgraded soon

[pugboy]

i did a coc last year and it was ink method

[AlphaMan]

Who in there right mind have extra money to pay a property tax...certainly not the PNM supporter base..
This election is definitely In favor of the UNC.

[ruffneck_12]

listened to a few mins of the grande speech last night....

Bobby head talkin bout how he knows things were bad in the past, and things are going to improve

But they saying that how long now? How long dem was in power in the history of T&T since independence?

[bluefete]

listened to a few mins of the grande speech last night....

Bobby head talkin bout how he knows things were bad in the past, and things are going to improve

But they saying that how long now? How long dem was in power in the history of T&T since independence?

PNM - 44 years

UNC - 7 years

PP - 5 years

NAR - 5 years

[Dizzy28]

listened to a few mins of the grande speech last night....

Bobby head talkin bout how he knows things were bad in the past, and things are going to improve

But they saying that how long now? How long dem was in power in the history of T&T since independence?

PNM - 44 years

UNC - 7 years

PP - 5 years

NAR - 5 years

Imagine having an un- interruptible 24 year run leading the country including one oil boom and still having the balls to blame other parties for the dire state of the place

[pugboy]

like pea issuing bluff to gg again
man say he have files as usual

[AlphaMan]

listened to a few mins of the grande speech last night....

Bobby head talkin bout how he knows things were bad in the past, and things are going to improve

But they saying that how long now? How long dem was in power in the history of T&T since independence?

PNM - 44 years

UNC - 7 years

PP - 5 years

NAR - 5 years

Imagine having an un- interruptible 24 year run leading the country including one oil boom and still having the balls to blame other parties for the dire state of the place

Blaming is one thing...
It have citizens with masters and PhD actually believing other parties are at fault...

[Chimera]

so from this we realize redman and paid influencer never applied for a COC in their lives

which is weird for an adult in Trinidad who ever had to work anywhere......

[paid_influencer]

so from this we realize redman and paid influencer never applied for a COC in their lives

which is weird for an adult in Trinidad who ever had to work anywhere......

yes the police did take my fingerprint and I did pay for a Certificate of Character in young adulthood. but i doh remember nothing about the process. infact i real forget plenty things in general. i forget more things than most people ever learnt and i feel my brain is broken not working anymore so good. i steady double pressing on tthe keyboard too idk why

[paid_influencer]

listened to a few mins of the grande speech last night....

Bobby head talkin bout how he knows things were bad in the past, and things are going to improve

But they saying that how long now? How long dem was in power in the history of T&T since independence?

PNM - 44 years

UNC - 7 years

PP - 5 years

NAR - 5 years

Imagine having an un- interruptible 24 year run leading the country including one oil boom and still having the balls to blame other parties for the dire state of the place

Blaming is one thing...
It have citizens with masters and PhD actually believing other parties are at fault...

That list kinda deceptive because PNM under Manning was a different beast than PNM under Keith.

Keith do a 180 on most of Manning's policies.
[*]Under Manning, Point Lisas was created and Keith close it down.
[*]Manning tell we abandon agriculture to become a service-based economy, Keith say fark dat, we going back to subsistence farming
[*]Manning say open up the economy and float the dollar, Keith say nah full close off everything you cyar even get a $100 US in the bank.

yes is the same red and the same party slogan but is not the same policies or leadseship at all at all. the only reason keith have a party is race

[AlphaMan]

listened to a few mins of the grande speech last night....

Bobby head talkin bout how he knows things were bad in the past, and things are going to improve

But they saying that how long now? How long dem was in power in the history of T&T since independence?

PNM - 44 years

UNC - 7 years

PP - 5 years

NAR - 5 years

Imagine having an un- interruptible 24 year run leading the country including one oil boom and still having the balls to blame other parties for the dire state of the place

Blaming is one thing...
It have citizens with masters and PhD actually believing other parties are at fault...

That list kinda deceptive because PNM under Manning was a different beast than PNM under Keith.

Keith do a 180 on most of Manning's policies.
[*]Under Manning, Point Lisas was created and Keith close it down.
[*]Manning tell we abandon agriculture to become a service-based economy, Keith say fark dat, we going back to subsistence farming
[*]Manning say open up the economy and float the dollar, Keith say nah full close off everything you cyar even get a $100 US in the bank.

yes is the same red and the same party slogan but is not the same policies or leadseship at all at all. the only reason keith have a party is race

Manning was no saint and should not be made out as one.
His own people wanted him Dead...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiTuER_PyGI