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Carnival safe then?sMASH wrote:
if is in open air, will not be a problem. was never a problem.
if is indoors, would help for like the first 20 mins of occupancy, but after that, u will get break tru a cloth mask. need an n95 to actually filter virus particles. a simple cloth just delays the progress.
redmanjp wrote:so now that evidence for natural immunity is mounting, should unvaxxed ppl who recovered from covid be allowed in safe zones? like in some EU countries, especially now that unvaxxed unimmune kids allowed in?
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:redmanjp wrote:so now that evidence for natural immunity is mounting, should unvaxxed ppl who recovered from covid be allowed in safe zones? like in some EU countries, especially now that unvaxxed unimmune kids allowed in?
'Natural immunity' to COVID has its limits
"Many people likely believe that prior infection will protect them forever, but unfortunately it will not."
https://montrealgazette.com/opinion/col ... its-limits
"mRNA vaccine-induced antibodies more effective than natural immunity in neutralizing SARS-CoV-2 and its high affinity variants"
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-06629-2
You can find evidence for either side
redmanjp wrote:so now that evidence for natural immunity is mounting, should unvaxxed ppl who recovered from covid be allowed in safe zones? like in some EU countries, especially now that unvaxxed unimmune kids allowed in?
paid_influencer wrote:Bars, Restaurants, and the Events Industry really suffering under these regulations. Vaccinated-only isn't profitable. Slow death to the industry if this continues.
If not remove these regulations now-- WHEN?
Covid ent going anywhere. We have to be the ones to pick up ourselves and declare that that we will no longer let the virus be the boss. End these harmful and divisive regulations. End them NOW.
adnj wrote:When R0 is below 0.5.
When R0 hits 0.5. Or when all of the infections and deaths are people that I believe deserve it. I'm okay with either.paid_influencer wrote:if you scared of the virus, I suggest you get mental help and do what you feel you must do to feel safe.
But please, let us end these ridiculous mandates and let people, both vaccinated and unvaccinated, get back to earning a living.
If you are scared of financial problems, I suggest you get mental help and do what you feel you must do to feel safe.paid_influencer wrote:if you scared of the virus, I suggest you get mental help and do what you feel you must do to feel safe.
But please, let us end these ridiculous mandates and let people, both vaccinated and unvaccinated, get back to earning a living.
timelapse wrote:Caura was dead today.Just how I like it.
adnj wrote:paid_influencer wrote:Bars, Restaurants, and the Events Industry really suffering under these regulations. Vaccinated-only isn't profitable. Slow death to the industry if this continues.
If not remove these regulations now-- WHEN?
Covid ent going anywhere. We have to be the ones to pick up ourselves and declare that that we will no longer let the virus be the boss. End these harmful and divisive regulations. End them NOW.
When R0 is below 0.5.
redmanjp wrote:adnj wrote:paid_influencer wrote:Bars, Restaurants, and the Events Industry really suffering under these regulations. Vaccinated-only isn't profitable. Slow death to the industry if this continues.
If not remove these regulations now-- WHEN?
Covid ent going anywhere. We have to be the ones to pick up ourselves and declare that that we will no longer let the virus be the boss. End these harmful and divisive regulations. End them NOW.
When R0 is below 0.5.
will happen soon once this omicron wave passes - it has come down just as quickly as it exploded in other countries.
i find outdoor mask mandates should be the first to go - US and UK didnt even have that during the peak of omicron. what science we following?
The US and the UK both have higher 2× and 2×+B vaccination rates. Pick someplace else to compare.Kenjo wrote:redmanjp wrote:adnj wrote:paid_influencer wrote:Bars, Restaurants, and the Events Industry really suffering under these regulations. Vaccinated-only isn't profitable. Slow death to the industry if this continues.
If not remove these regulations now-- WHEN?
Covid ent going anywhere. We have to be the ones to pick up ourselves and declare that that we will no longer let the virus be the boss. End these harmful and divisive regulations. End them NOW.
When R0 is below 0.5.
will happen soon once this omicron wave passes - it has come down just as quickly as it exploded in other countries.
i find outdoor mask mandates should be the first to go - US and UK didnt even have that during the peak of omicron. what science we following?
What’s the issue with masks though ? Environmental ? … yeah I through in that point
It was clean, but slightly overgrown with vegetation.Not entirely a bad thing.We had the opportunity to watch a hummingbird build a nestMaxPower wrote:timelapse wrote:Caura was dead today.Just how I like it.
Times,
How the place look?
Clean?
Stank?
redmanjp wrote:Went cinema first time since the pandemic in CC8. They did ask for proof of vaccination. In fact twice by the ticket counter and by the door. But they accepted a Pic of it on my phone. The girl behind the counter was very thorough. She check for both doses as well as the dates of each. Then my name and my ID. So no unvaxxed getting in there. Haven't been to movietowne so doh know the situation there.
But it only had about 20 or so ppl inside so I didn't mind taking off mask to eat meh popcorn.
Dizzy28 wrote:Went to Tommy's on Friday. First safe zone visit since the initiative came out. They barely looked at the pic of the vax card on my phone and didn't ask for photo ID. Without expanding the pic it's almost impossible to make out the writing so a 1 second glance isn't determining anything useful.
Guess different places treat with it differently.
Anyhows we move!!!!!!redmanjp wrote:Went cinema first time since the pandemic in CC8. They did ask for proof of vaccination. In fact twice by the ticket counter and by the door. But they accepted a Pic of it on my phone. The girl behind the counter was very thorough. She check for both doses as well as the dates of each. Then my name and my ID. So no unvaxxed getting in there. Haven't been to movietowne so doh know the situation there.
But it only had about 20 or so ppl inside so I didn't mind taking off mask to eat meh popcorn.