SEA Exam 2021

[Redress10]

You said zone them based on that logic because I live in pos and environs I guaranteed to go to a college or convent....yup makes sense....because I live beetham I going success laventille and becauseI live morvant just send me to Russell latapy no matter how well I did that's fair and isn't demotivating at all

So genius tell me how do we determine who should attend the college and convent from success laventille?

hopefully our ministry can get their chit together and finally put an end to this TEST, just do as the previous admin was doing and use continuous assessment from standard 3 as the basis for placement BUT stick to the current Syllabus and forget about the additional pe, movement and dance crap.

Zone them and send them to the best school according to their ability etc. No more living in San Fernando but going to school in POS because ya couldn't pass for Naps/convent etc but daddy had a link to get ya into a "prestigious" school up North.

Well no. You are assuming the zone is that limited. Somebody living Beetham/Sea Lots will still go a convent or College but someone living Mayaro will not get to go to those schools in POS for instance.

Again, the whole point of zoning is to have as much "prestigious" schools distributed around the country so somebody living in the "country" will not miss out due to lack of access and resources. There should also be a prestigious school in places such as Mayaro etc to capture as many students in the surrounding area and neighbouring villages.

We keep forgetting "prestigious" schools are nothing more than colonial relics that tend to favour the local whites and 1% who use their junior schools as feeder schools to enter those schools at the taxpayers expense. Can't have an exam to determine secondary placement whilst having 20% reserved by the school to use to trade favours. Unless that 20% starts paying their own school fees privately then that 20% is keeping spaces from children who deserve it.

[hover11]

I agree with what you saying remove the 20 percent due to the fact it is nothing but blatant nepotism enshrined in the education system. We view prestige schools like that because we put them on the pedestals,convent and college is the only way to success and look down on the government and senior comprehensive...I don't think that will change as it is indoctrinated in our minds even the upcoming generations are given this mentality so it is a generational curse that we have to break.

You said zone them based on that logic because I live in pos and environs I guaranteed to go to a college or convent....yup makes sense....because I live beetham I going success laventille and becauseI live morvant just send me to Russell latapy no matter how well I did that's fair and isn't demotivating at all

So genius tell me how do we determine who should attend the college and convent from success laventille?

hopefully our ministry can get their chit together and finally put an end to this TEST, just do as the previous admin was doing and use continuous assessment from standard 3 as the basis for placement BUT stick to the current Syllabus and forget about the additional pe, movement and dance crap.

Zone them and send them to the best school according to their ability etc. No more living in San Fernando but going to school in POS because ya couldn't pass for Naps/convent etc but daddy had a link to get ya into a "prestigious" school up North.

Well no. You are assuming the zone is that limited. Somebody living Beetham/Sea Lots will still go a convent or College but someone living Mayaro will not get to go to those schools in POS for instance.

Again, the whole point of zoning is to have as much "prestigious" schools distributed around the country so somebody living in the "country" will not miss out due to lack of access and resources. There should also be a prestigious school in places such as Mayaro etc to capture as many students in the surrounding area and neighbouring villages.

We keep forgetting "prestigious" schools are nothing more than colonial relics that tend to favour the local whites and 1% who use their junior schools as feeder schools to enter those schools at the taxpayers expense. Can't have an exam to determine secondary placement whilst having 20% reserved by the school to use to trade favours. Unless that 20% starts paying their own school fees privately then that 20% is keeping spaces from children who deserve it.

[DMan7]

Laugh now with all the celebrations from these so called "accomplishments" then cry later when those same accomplishments can't get you a job to earn a living. Pointless and irrelevant.

[Ben_spanna]

So genius tell me how do we determine who should attend the college and convent from success laventille?

hopefully our ministry can get their chit together and finally put an end to this TEST, just do as the previous admin was doing and use continuous assessment from standard 3 as the basis for placement BUT stick to the current Syllabus and forget about the additional pe, movement and dance crap.

Continuous assessment as I said, can’t you understand English? You will be graded on your overall performance from grade 3-5 and placed into the school of your choice just as in SEA , but based on your marks over the last 3 years and not a damn exam…

[alfa]

So genius tell me how do we determine who should attend the college and convent from success laventille?

hopefully our ministry can get their chit together and finally put an end to this TEST, just do as the previous admin was doing and use continuous assessment from standard 3 as the basis for placement BUT stick to the current Syllabus and forget about the additional pe, movement and dance crap.

Continuous assessment as I said, can’t you understand English? You will be graded on your overall performance from grade 3-5 and placed into the school of your choice just as in SEA , but based on your marks over the last 3 years and not a damn exam…

Suppose your family physician told you that he never wrote an exam because it was deemed to stressful but was rather certified by his overall performance would you still trust your life to him? Cuz a lot of the comments make against sea can be made against any exam

[wing]

So genius tell me how do we determine who should attend the college and convent from success laventille?

hopefully our ministry can get their chit together and finally put an end to this TEST, just do as the previous admin was doing and use continuous assessment from standard 3 as the basis for placement BUT stick to the current Syllabus and forget about the additional pe, movement and dance crap.

Continuous assessment as I said, can’t you understand English? You will be graded on your overall performance from grade 3-5 and placed into the school of your choice just as in SEA , but based on your marks over the last 3 years and not a damn exam…

The same students who do well at the "exam" will end up being the same ones doing well at the continuous assessment. Because in order to excel at the "exam" the preparation begins from standards 2 and 3 and includes continuous assessments to determine progress and gaps. What you are trying to and failing to understand, is success academically depends on the inherent talent of the student as well as the support systems in place at home. Your idea of zoning is a form of affirmative action to hopefully get good results from a certain segment of the population by placing them in a prestige school where there will be the environment at the school but at home, is not conducive to proper learning. It is not surprising that most prestige schools are located in population centers where the demographic prioritizes education and professional achievement.

[hover11]

Exams are a part of life....not continuous work it teaches kids how to adapt, work under time constraints and operate with limited supervision

[redmanjp]

as expected

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/09/10/covid-takes-toll-on-sea-results/

[MaxPower]

Max thats just a kid man cmon, he doesn't know better

The little pest by me was busy riding bicycle for the whole time since lockdown.If he could pass a bloodtest right now he'll be happy.I looking forward to minding his business today.
At least he has a budding career as a bicycle customizer.p

Stone he mc down

True eh Jason,

But these kids are the upcoming criminals and are already harming our people.

If they don’t know better, a big stone can be the wake up call.

Hadda reduce the adult age to maybe 13 or so, these pests get away with too many things.

[daring dragoon]

Not seeing the usual top performing schools. But seeing the usual top performing surnames??? IMG-d82119702d80aee8f4523681deccab39-V.jpg

Congratulations to the Indian community. You have worked hard and come a long. Unfortunately Africans can never reach to this level as long as the pnm is around.

This up there with persons saying that indians become richer and prosper under the pnm govt? the pnm democratic type policies ensure that the central govt calls the shots in all decision making regarding the direction of the country and the unc republican policy ensure that the big business call the shots. pnm had more indian founders such as sukeran, narace,mohammed, mahabir just to name a few. in fact sukeran is al wari grand fadda. is it a conspiracy to get the black vote and keep the black people down by making them believe pnm is a black party and unc is an indian party?

[De Dragon]

Not seeing the usual top performing schools. But seeing the usual top performing surnames??? IMG-d82119702d80aee8f4523681deccab39-V.jpg

Congratulations to the Indian community. You have worked hard and come a long. Unfortunately Africans can never reach to this level as long as the pnm is around.

This up there with persons saying that indians become richer and prosper under the pnm govt? the pnm democratic type policies ensure that the central govt calls the shots in all decision making regarding the direction of the country and the unc republican policy ensure that the big business call the shots. pnm had more indian founders such as sukeran, narace,mohammed, mahabir just to name a few. in fact sukeran is al wari grand fadda. is it a conspiracy to get the black vote and keep the black people down by making them believe pnm is a black party and unc is an indian party?

Yet when Williams died in 1981, out of Mahabir, Kamal and Chambers, who was chosen?
The main base of the LFD RFD PNM will always be Afro-Trini, and thus an Afro-Trini will ALWAYS head the party. Indos and other groups will have a presence, but the face is definitely Afro-Trini.

[Dave]

They choose the duncy one lol.

[timelapse]

Max thats just a kid man cmon, he doesn't know better

The little pest by me was busy riding bicycle for the whole time since lockdown.If he could pass a bloodtest right now he'll be happy.I looking forward to minding his business today.
At least he has a budding career as a bicycle customizer.p

Stone he mc down

True eh Jason,

But these kids are the upcoming criminals and are already harming our people.

If they don’t know better, a big stone can be the wake up call.

Hadda reduce the adult age to maybe 13 or so, these pests get away with too many things.

Sorry to have sullied this thread with the pest.

Congratulations to all the children that got into secondary schools that actually want to make something of themselves in life.God's choicest blessings upon you and may you succeed in life.I truly and deeply wish them all the best because they are the future.This world is theirs.

[zoom rader]

Every year its the same you all big up those that score high marks but no one takes notice of the high failure rates.

The school system is a total failure for the 90%.

In real terms its one group of kids that are left out by those who proclaim they care about the wider population

Carry on while we live in false hopes.

Note the mods deleted my last post cause the can't handle the truth

[Mmoney607]

Every year its the same you all big up those that score high marks but no one takes notice of the high failure rates.

The school system is a total failure for the 90%.

In real terms its one group of kids that are left out by those who proclaim they care about the wider population

Carry on while we live in false hopes.

Note the mods deleted my last post cause the can't handle the truth

Yup, you can't have this kind of disparity between the two major ethnic groups. And cover ups and deliberate attempts to downplay the performance of one ethnic group over another, not through actual merit but through gimmicky, will not help the situation

[Wraith King]

Every year its the same you all big up those that score high marks but no one takes notice of the high failure rates.

The school system is a total failure for the 90%.

In real terms its one group of kids that are left out by those who proclaim they care about the wider population

Carry on while we live in false hopes.

Note the mods deleted my last post cause the can't handle the truth

Yup, you can't have this kind of disparity between the two major ethnic groups. And cover ups and deliberate attempts to downplay the performance of one ethnic group over another, not through actual merit but through gimmicky, will not help the situation

There is a reason the disparity exists and it is not because of racism. It is because of social practices and values.

[MaxPower]

Max thats just a kid man cmon, he doesn't know better

The little pest by me was busy riding bicycle for the whole time since lockdown.If he could pass a bloodtest right now he'll be happy.I looking forward to minding his business today.
At least he has a budding career as a bicycle customizer.p

Stone he mc down

True eh Jason,

But these kids are the upcoming criminals and are already harming our people.

If they don’t know better, a big stone can be the wake up call.

Hadda reduce the adult age to maybe 13 or so, these pests get away with too many things.

Sorry to have sullied this thread with the pest.

Congratulations to all the children that got into secondary schools that actually want to make something of themselves in life.God's choicest blessings upon you and may you succeed in life.I truly and deeply wish them all the best because they are the future.This world is theirs.

Hats off

[zoom rader]

Every year its the same you all big up those that score high marks but no one takes notice of the high failure rates.

The school system is a total failure for the 90%.

In real terms its one group of kids that are left out by those who proclaim they care about the wider population

Carry on while we live in false hopes.

Note the mods deleted my last post cause the can't handle the truth

Yup, you can't have this kind of disparity between the two major ethnic groups. And cover ups and deliberate attempts to downplay the performance of one ethnic group over another, not through actual merit but through gimmicky, will not help the situation

There is a reason the disparity exists and it is not because of racism. It is because of social practices and values.

It is racism but within the same group.

The same group of people that tell you they care are the ones that make sure the failures stay right where they are.

These people profit from failures and does not care to see their own people prosper. They will then turn around and blame those that succeed as the reason for the failures

[Dave]

Was it Sugar Aloes that wrote the song Corruption in Common entrance?

[Wraith King]

Was it Sugar Aloes that wrote the song Corruption in Common entrance?

When you're weak minded it's easier to seek fault outside of yourself than accepting responsibility for your life.

[Wraith King]

Every year its the same you all big up those that score high marks but no one takes notice of the high failure rates.

The school system is a total failure for the 90%.

In real terms its one group of kids that are left out by those who proclaim they care about the wider population

Carry on while we live in false hopes.

Note the mods deleted my last post cause the can't handle the truth

Yup, you can't have this kind of disparity between the two major ethnic groups. And cover ups and deliberate attempts to downplay the performance of one ethnic group over another, not through actual merit but through gimmicky, will not help the situation

There is a reason the disparity exists and it is not because of racism. It is because of social practices and values.

It is racism but within the same group.

The same group of people that tell you they care are the ones that make sure the failures stay right where they are.

These people profit from failures and does not care to see their own people prosper. They will then turn around and blame those that succeed as the reason for the failures

That's not racism. That's using others.

[Redress10]

Every year its the same you all big up those that score high marks but no one takes notice of the high failure rates.

The school system is a total failure for the 90%.

In real terms its one group of kids that are left out by those who proclaim they care about the wider population

Carry on while we live in false hopes.

Note the mods deleted my last post cause the can't handle the truth

Talk done

[Redress10]

Every year its the same you all big up those that score high marks but no one takes notice of the high failure rates.

The school system is a total failure for the 90%.

In real terms its one group of kids that are left out by those who proclaim they care about the wider population

Carry on while we live in false hopes.

Note the mods deleted my last post cause the can't handle the truth

Yup, you can't have this kind of disparity between the two major ethnic groups. And cover ups and deliberate attempts to downplay the performance of one ethnic group over another, not through actual merit but through gimmicky, will not help the situation

You're a dunce if you think that one ethnic group is doing better than the other. Both ethnic groups are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things so their performances can be taken with a dose of salt. None of those "performers" will place anywhere near the top in an academic setting that is world class and demanding so we just fooling these children who future consists of uwi and ojt. Meanwhile the really "bright" children of this world are afforded world class opportunities that our children can't even begin to imagine. Then they coming on tv to beg for funds and scholarship money.

But carry on with ya beliefs in what you think "excellence" is. I really feel for these children who can do better than a Sea or "prestige school". I really do.

Imagine being a "high performer" at sea and Nat schol winner but needing to bake cupcakes and sell just to earn a living. Imagine that. Plenty former schol winners I know working donkey years now but can't afford a decent car off the salary they earning farless a house.

[Mmoney607]

Every year its the same you all big up those that score high marks but no one takes notice of the high failure rates.

The school system is a total failure for the 90%.

In real terms its one group of kids that are left out by those who proclaim they care about the wider population

Carry on while we live in false hopes.

Note the mods deleted my last post cause the can't handle the truth

Yup, you can't have this kind of disparity between the two major ethnic groups. And cover ups and deliberate attempts to downplay the performance of one ethnic group over another, not through actual merit but through gimmicky, will not help the situation

You're a dunce if you think that one ethnic group is doing better than the other. Both ethnic groups are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things so their performances can be taken with a dose of salt. None of those "performers" will place anywhere near the top in an academic setting that is world class and demanding so we just fooling these children who future consists of uwi and ojt. Meanwhile the really "bright" children of this world are afforded world class opportunities that our children can't even begin to imagine. Then they coming on tv to beg for funds and scholarship money.

But carry on with ya beliefs in what you think "excellence" is. I really feel for these children who can do better than a Sea or "prestige school". I really do.

So the jail population is 50/50? The acceptance to UWI is 50/50? The avg household income is 50/50?

[zoom rader]

Was it Sugar Aloes that wrote the song Corruption in Common entrance?

It was Cro Cro

But he was beating a dead horse. He only sang that song to rally support for his people. He himself was allowed the opportunity to place his family in those very same schools he sang about

Reglious schools have there own 20% allowed intake.

[zoom rader]

Every year its the same you all big up those that score high marks but no one takes notice of the high failure rates.

The school system is a total failure for the 90%.

In real terms its one group of kids that are left out by those who proclaim they care about the wider population

Carry on while we live in false hopes.

Note the mods deleted my last post cause the can't handle the truth

Yup, you can't have this kind of disparity between the two major ethnic groups. And cover ups and deliberate attempts to downplay the performance of one ethnic group over another, not through actual merit but through gimmicky, will not help the situation

You're a dunce if you think that one ethnic group is doing better than the other. Both ethnic groups are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things so their performances can be taken with a dose of salt. None of those "performers" will place anywhere near the top in an academic setting that is world class and demanding so we just fooling these children who future consists of uwi and ojt. Meanwhile the really "bright" children of this world are afforded world class opportunities that our children can't even begin to imagine. Then they coming on tv to beg for funds and scholarship money.

But carry on with ya beliefs in what you think "excellence" is. I really feel for these children who can do better than a Sea or "prestige school". I really do.

So the jail population is 50/50? The acceptance to UWI is 50/50? The avg household income is 50/50?

Jail is about 90% red government ppl

UWI is about 35 to 40% red government ppl.

Income is about 50/50, since red government ppl are employed though the back door in the public service

[Redman]

Maybe you guys should get some of the data on the racial make up of whatever institution you talking about

[Redress10]

Every year its the same you all big up those that score high marks but no one takes notice of the high failure rates.

The school system is a total failure for the 90%.

In real terms its one group of kids that are left out by those who proclaim they care about the wider population

Carry on while we live in false hopes.

Note the mods deleted my last post cause the can't handle the truth

Yup, you can't have this kind of disparity between the two major ethnic groups. And cover ups and deliberate attempts to downplay the performance of one ethnic group over another, not through actual merit but through gimmicky, will not help the situation

You're a dunce if you think that one ethnic group is doing better than the other. Both ethnic groups are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things so their performances can be taken with a dose of salt. None of those "performers" will place anywhere near the top in an academic setting that is world class and demanding so we just fooling these children who future consists of uwi and ojt. Meanwhile the really "bright" children of this world are afforded world class opportunities that our children can't even begin to imagine. Then they coming on tv to beg for funds and scholarship money.

But carry on with ya beliefs in what you think "excellence" is. I really feel for these children who can do better than a Sea or "prestige school". I really do.

So the jail population is 50/50? The acceptance to UWI is 50/50? The avg household income is 50/50?

I am saying that those points are irrelevant in determining a country's development. You never look inward at performance but compare outward. Whether they are black,white, chinese, syrian, indian descent etc they are still just viewed as trinbagonian. So we need to start placing our system up against others and see how it really measures up. I don't care that my child did better than my neighbour. The competition is not with my neighbour but against the chinese, norwegians, singaporeans etc.

We are now living in a global era where the competition is against the world. When Roget told them take their rig and go Mexico built it. That resulted in jobs etc going to Mexico. We are too comfortable thinking that we are doing good because we doing better than the next door neighbour.

No investor etc looks to a country and sees a particular "ethnic" group doing better. If only 20% are highly skilled then it doesn't matter which group etc is highly skilled. What the stats will show is that 80% is lowly skilled and that will put off investment etc.

Just my two cents.

[eliteauto]

Congratulations

[Habit7]

Maybe you guys should get some of the data on the racial make up of whatever institution you talking about

Why bother, they will just deny it and claim their own personal bias is a more reliable source.