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Who will you be voting for on Aug 10th

Poll ended at August 9th, 2020, 11:04 pm

PNM
28
22%
UNC
75
59%
COP
2
2%
PEP
17
13%
NNV
0
No votes
MSJ
0
No votes
NDP
0
No votes
PDP
0
No votes
Independent
5
4%
 
Total votes: 127

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Postby jhonnieblue » July 24th, 2020, 9:56 am

Yup same thing I'm thinking. It's hard to reason with someone like that. For in the fence voters what are the options UNC are bringing?
They alluding 50k jobs. What are they and how sustainable are these jobs and in what segments.
What's the plan for economic growth and development while encouraging diversification?
They outlined their plan for infrastructure development last night which seems ok but more structured management and public private partnerships need to be expended and aligned.
What is their solution for crime and education.
Giving away free laptops means nothing if you don't expand upon the framework for eLearning and showing how synergies in coursework can save time, enhance deduction and save cost long term.

I hate people that response is oh just vote because pnm bad. Yes pnm is bad, they have no clear economic plan for the country and left infrastructure to degrade while having no systematic plan to diversify or decentralize.
But the outline the UNC is giving us to speak to grass roots. Open back up sugar?? Sugars production Capacity and unit cost prohibited it from behind competitive in the global market.
Leaders need to realize that while solutions are often comprehensive and technical, you have to bring it to the population and raise their capacity for understanding. Bring them to your level and not sick to theirs.

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Postby Les Bain » July 24th, 2020, 10:07 am

Buh jhonnie, saying UNC have no plan not really saying anything.
Mandingo and his pals only plan was to wrest the country from Kamla small time 'businessmen' financiers and give it back to the 1%. They was playing form 3 badjohns in parliament up to election day and still win.

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Postby teems1 » July 24th, 2020, 10:16 am

jhonnieblue wrote:
Leaders need to realize that while solutions are often comprehensive and technical, you have to bring it to the population and raise their capacity for understanding. Bring them to your level and not sick to theirs.


You do know every school gets a CXC results brochure each year after the exams are complete. There are further breakdowns as not all students do the same level difficulty. Many do a basic (easier) version of the subjects.

Last time I checked for Trinidad the failure rate for English hovers around 50% while the failure rate for Math is around 55%.

Long story short you can't get blood from a stone. We cannot primarily be a service based economy like Singapore, Hong Kong etc. We need to be a resource based economy which will eventually lead to massive inequality due to "who owns/controls the resources" dilemma.

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Postby rspann » July 24th, 2020, 10:17 am

jhonnieblue wrote:Yup same thing I'm thinking. It's hard to reason with someone like that. For in the fence voters what are the options UNC are bringing?
They alluding 50k jobs. What are they and how sustainable are these jobs and in what segments.
What's the plan for economic growth and development while encouraging diversification?
They outlined their plan for infrastructure development last night which seems ok but more structured management and public private partnerships need to be expended and aligned.
What is their solution for crime and education.
Giving away free laptops means nothing if you don't expand upon the framework for eLearning and showing how synergies in coursework can save time, enhance deduction and save cost long term.

I hate people that response is oh just vote because pnm bad. Yes pnm is bad, they have no clear economic plan for the country and left infrastructure to degrade while having no systematic plan to diversify or decentralize.
But the outline the UNC is giving us to speak to grass roots. Open back up sugar?? Sugars production Capacity and unit cost prohibited it from behind competitive in the global market.
Leaders need to realize that while solutions are often comprehensive and technical, you have to bring it to the population and raise their capacity for understanding. Bring them to your level and not sick to theirs.


Johnnie , nobody should really vote on manifestos plans and promises . No party keeps their promises or follow through with their plans after winning . PEP has a lot of grandiose plans which sound like we'll turn into a utopia if he gets in , but most are unfeasible . Kams saying what she knows we want to hear , but will it materialise ? Growlers promising the same things he promised before .

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Postby elec2020 » July 24th, 2020, 10:19 am

Les Bain wrote:Buh jhonnie, saying UNC have no plan not really saying anything.
Mandingo and his pals only plan was to wrest the country from Kamla small time 'businessmen' financiers and give it back to the 1%. They was playing form 3 badjohns in parliament up to election day and still win.


Whose fault is it that no party has emerged as a credible option against PNM? They had 5 years to get their act together... now u promising me sheit about 50,000 jobs (from where given the state the economy is in)... and less taxes (how credible is that when government revenue has been double hit by covid mashing up businesses and energy prices)... what pep promise? Mortgages with no interest for 30 years (dude no bank doing that and u cant force financial institutions to do such things without changing the legislation which we know will take some time and even if it comes off the institutions may leave as mortgages i think make up most of any banks loan profile so u hitting their profits hard)... pdp promise to make sure that the minimum take home salary is 5k (again how feasible is this in the current economic environment) and msj and the rest i dont even know what their mandate or plan for 2020 - 2025 is... pnm has fudged up the last 5 years... anyone who says otherwise is lieing... but when it comes to a viable replacement.. what choice u have when they touting unacheivable and illogical promises

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Postby VexXx Dogg » July 24th, 2020, 10:20 am

I can't believe in this day and age there are political fanbitches who bleed the colour of their parties.

My allegiance is to the red, white and black. Some of y'all also need to recognize professional trollology vs fanaticism. ZR does real bait everybody LOLOL

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Postby Les Bain » July 24th, 2020, 10:41 am

At this point PNM is no option but the contesting parties reminding me of a prefect election in my Primary School days. Men was promising all sort of illogical sheet then when they GT, they selling you out to the principal for going arcade during lunch or getting your Tiger Electronics game & talk confiscate.

Hurtful thing is unlike the prefects you can't wait til parliament adjourn to beat up a politician.

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Postby zoom rader » July 24th, 2020, 10:47 am

elec2020 wrote:
jhonnieblue wrote:It's how she said it zoom, u will defend this woman to the end.
She need to come better. Preventative measure stop out in place. Enhanced testing program. Measure to support the dual medical program. Capacity building of IC units in the event of an outbreak. Framework for ecominc continuance in the event of an outbreak.

All BETTER relevant topics that she could have brought rather than SUNLIGHT as a solution. Geez it's like she is actively trying to lose this when they have so many areas they can undermine the PNM for performance.


Zoom fighting hard... at first he had alot of tangible points on the failure of the current regime... and you can see he is one of the few people who sit down and think about the different sides of a development before speaking... implying that he has some level of critical thinking/ education... but since the election gong sound... Zoom coming off like one of those paid UNC fanatics... and personally (no disrespect) I can't talk those kind of individuals seriously (that is, political fanatics)
I go my facts and research.

Kams was part right in her statement

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Postby elec2020 » July 24th, 2020, 10:49 am

^ if PNM is no option then who should replace them:

UNC: whose manifesto claims to: create 50,000 jobs, bring back in laptops, reduce VAT and other taxes, implement a wage subsidy
PEP: promised to build damns/reservoirs in every community/municipality, remove mortage interest rates, abolish all banking fees
COP/MSJ/NOW/PDP: nothing doing... haven't seen any manifestos from them

yeah u can state you want change... but change for what? who offering better than what we have now (keep in mind i stated earlier that i most likely will not vote or spoil my ballot as the choices imo make no sense)

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Postby zoom rader » July 24th, 2020, 10:53 am

jhonnieblue wrote:Yup same thing I'm thinking. It's hard to reason with someone like that. For in the fence voters what are the options UNC are bringing?
They alluding 50k jobs. What are they and how sustainable are these jobs and in what segments.
What's the plan for economic growth and development while encouraging diversification?
They outlined their plan for infrastructure development last night which seems ok but more structured management and public private partnerships need to be expended and aligned.
What is their solution for crime and education.
Giving away free laptops means nothing if you don't expand upon the framework for eLearning and showing how synergies in coursework can save time, enhance deduction and save cost long term.

I hate people that response is oh just vote because pnm bad. Yes pnm is bad, they have no clear economic plan for the country and left infrastructure to degrade while having no systematic plan to diversify or decentralize.
But the outline the UNC is giving us to speak to grass roots. Open back up sugar?? Sugars production Capacity and unit cost prohibited it from behind competitive in the global market.
Leaders need to realize that while solutions are often comprehensive and technical, you have to bring it to the population and raise their capacity for understanding. Bring them to your level and not sick to theirs.
Have you asked BLANK man what he intends to do and his plans?

Why focus on non PNM parties, it not like you going to vote for them.

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Postby zoom rader » July 24th, 2020, 10:54 am

elec2020 wrote:^ if PNM is no option then who should replace them:

UNC: whose manifesto claims to: create 50,000 jobs, bring back in laptops, reduce VAT and other taxes, implement a wage subsidy
PEP: promised to build damns/reservoirs in every community/municipality, remove mortage interest rates, abolish all banking fees
COP/MSJ/NOW/PDP: nothing doing... haven't seen any manifestos from them

yeah u can state you want change... but change for what? who offering better than what we have now (keep in mind i stated earlier that i most likely will not vote or spoil my ballot as the choices imo make no sense)
Why not ask blank man the same quest ions

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Postby zoom rader » July 24th, 2020, 10:56 am

teems1 wrote:
jhonnieblue wrote:
Leaders need to realize that while solutions are often comprehensive and technical, you have to bring it to the population and raise their capacity for understanding. Bring them to your level and not sick to theirs.


You do know every school gets a CXC results brochure each year after the exams are complete. There are further breakdowns as not all students do the same level difficulty. Many do a basic (easier) version of the subjects.

Last time I checked for Trinidad the failure rate for English hovers around 50% while the failure rate for Math is around 55%.

Long story short you can't get blood from a stone. We cannot primarily be a service based economy like Singapore, Hong Kong etc. We need to be a resource based economy which will eventually lead to massive inequality due to "who owns/controls the resources" dilemma.
The failure rates explain why we have PNM ppl commiting crimes and filling the jails

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Postby elec2020 » July 24th, 2020, 10:59 am

^ people still believe that she said blank and not black... ok... cool... anyway... pnm plan to revitalize growth i think is via construction projects... cause construction earns foreign exchange aint it... if your plans for recovery do not involve promoting a sector that generates foreign exchange then imo u not making sense... this might be my 4th or 5th time saying this... but on paper no one makes sense and as such i just may not vote for this elections... it is within my right to do so as a citizen of tnt

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Postby zoom rader » July 24th, 2020, 10:59 am

rspann wrote:
jhonnieblue wrote:Yup same thing I'm thinking. It's hard to reason with someone like that. For in the fence voters what are the options UNC are bringing?
They alluding 50k jobs. What are they and how sustainable are these jobs and in what segments.
What's the plan for economic growth and development while encouraging diversification?
They outlined their plan for infrastructure development last night which seems ok but more structured management and public private partnerships need to be expended and aligned.
What is their solution for crime and education.
Giving away free laptops means nothing if you don't expand upon the framework for eLearning and showing how synergies in coursework can save time, enhance deduction and save cost long term.

I hate people that response is oh just vote because pnm bad. Yes pnm is bad, they have no clear economic plan for the country and left infrastructure to degrade while having no systematic plan to diversify or decentralize.
But the outline the UNC is giving us to speak to grass roots. Open back up sugar?? Sugars production Capacity and unit cost prohibited it from behind competitive in the global market.
Leaders need to realize that while solutions are often comprehensive and technical, you have to bring it to the population and raise their capacity for understanding. Bring them to your level and not sick to theirs.


Johnnie , nobody should really vote on manifestos plans and promises . No party keeps their promises or follow through with their plans after winning . PEP has a lot of grandiose plans which sound like we'll turn into a utopia if he gets in , but most are unfeasible . Kams saying what she knows we want to hear , but will it materialise ? Growlers promising the same things he promised before .
Yeah but Rowlee came up with

Email gate
UNC locking off water
Blame kams

Yet still pp vote for him, why study what non PNM parties bringing
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Postby elec2020 » July 24th, 2020, 11:00 am

zoom rader wrote:
teems1 wrote:
jhonnieblue wrote:
Leaders need to realize that while solutions are often comprehensive and technical, you have to bring it to the population and raise their capacity for understanding. Bring them to your level and not sick to theirs.


You do know every school gets a CXC results brochure each year after the exams are complete. There are further breakdowns as not all students do the same level difficulty. Many do a basic (easier) version of the subjects.

Last time I checked for Trinidad the failure rate for English hovers around 50% while the failure rate for Math is around 55%.

Long story short you can't get blood from a stone. We cannot primarily be a service based economy like Singapore, Hong Kong etc. We need to be a resource based economy which will eventually lead to massive inequality due to "who owns/controls the resources" dilemma.
The failure rates explain why we have PNM ppl commiting crimes and filling the jails


What is pnm people? Blank people? Zoom u need to stop with this fanaticism

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Postby zoom rader » July 24th, 2020, 11:04 am

VexXx Dogg wrote:I can't believe in this day and age there are political fanbitches who bleed the colour of their parties.

My allegiance is to the red, white and black. Some of y'all also need to recognize professional trollology vs fanaticism. ZR does real bait everybody LOLOL
Tuners in this and need to understand my allegiance is to non PNM parties that can unseat them .

You all question and label me a UNC yet still Elite keeping posting anit non PNM party propaganda and few question him.

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Postby zoom rader » July 24th, 2020, 11:09 am

elec2020 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
teems1 wrote:
jhonnieblue wrote:
Leaders need to realize that while solutions are often comprehensive and technical, you have to bring it to the population and raise their capacity for understanding. Bring them to your level and not sick to theirs.


You do know every school gets a CXC results brochure each year after the exams are complete. There are further breakdowns as not all students do the same level difficulty. Many do a basic (easier) version of the subjects.

Last time I checked for Trinidad the failure rate for English hovers around 50% while the failure rate for Math is around 55%.

Long story short you can't get blood from a stone. We cannot primarily be a service based economy like Singapore, Hong Kong etc. We need to be a resource based economy which will eventually lead to massive inequality due to "who owns/controls the resources" dilemma.
The failure rates explain why we have PNM ppl commiting crimes and filling the jails


What is pnm people? Blank people? Zoom u need to stop with this fanaticism
There's is difference between Trin Afro and PNM ppl .

Blank ppl could also be described PNM ppl

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Postby MaxPower » July 24th, 2020, 12:31 pm

Zoom, you ready to join me and Team Keith?

PM if you need a balizay rally kit.

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Postby bluefete » July 24th, 2020, 12:37 pm

MaxPower wrote:Zoom, you ready to join me and Team Keith?

PM if you need a balizay rally kit.


You could real troll when yuh ready, boy, Max.

Zoomie have cows that need him. Doh send up his blood pressure nah. Tantie Kams could do that by herself.

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Postby zoom rader » July 24th, 2020, 12:45 pm

bluefete wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Zoom, you ready to join me and Team Keith?

PM if you need a balizay rally kit.


You could real troll when yuh ready, boy, Max.

Zoomie have cows that need him. Doh send up his blood pressure nah. Tantie Kams could do that by herself.
I kinda support Max

I won't vote PNM as San Do is a very safe seat even if I vote non PNM. I will never abstain from voting a non PNM party.

Non PNM parties should have defaulted from elections and let PNM take full control as they did in the no vote campaign in the early 1970s.

The cows going good, a vene looking after them as I don't have time to see about Cows.

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Postby bluefete » July 24th, 2020, 12:47 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Are you San 'Do east or west?

I hope you are in Faris' constituency. Go and vote for Sobers, nah. He is the best out of the lot the UNC has.

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Postby zoom rader » July 24th, 2020, 12:58 pm

bluefete wrote:

Are you San 'Do east or west?

I hope you are in Faris' constituency. Go and vote for Sobers, nah. He is the best out of the lot the UNC has.
San Do East, mostly low quality folk live here

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Postby bluefete » July 24th, 2020, 1:14 pm

zoom rader wrote:
bluefete wrote:

Are you San 'Do east or west?

I hope you are in Faris' constituency. Go and vote for Sobers, nah. He is the best out of the lot the UNC has.
San Do East, mostly low quality folk live here


Speak fuh yuself :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

So is Brian Manning versus Monifa Andrews.

Yuh right though. Independents going for San Do West instead of East. Wha' yuh tell dem bai?

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Postby zoom rader » July 24th, 2020, 1:19 pm

bluefete wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
bluefete wrote:

Are you San 'Do east or west?

I hope you are in Faris' constituency. Go and vote for Sobers, nah. He is the best out of the lot the UNC has.
San Do East, mostly low quality folk live here


Speak fuh yuself :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

So is Brian Manning versus Monifa Andrews.

Yuh right though. Independents going for San Do West instead of East. Wha' yuh tell dem bai?
Let PNM win all the seats as they did in the early 1970s

That way there will be no opposition.

No one to blame and PNM ppl can't say the opposition not doing a good job.

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Postby matr1x » July 24th, 2020, 1:48 pm

Remember a certain sport minister likes to sexually harass employees

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Postby maj. tom » July 24th, 2020, 3:10 pm

so she will continue doing that after she is elected into office?

But Trinidad people dotish. I going and take in some V.S. Naipaul literature later to remind me of that.

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Postby zoom rader » July 24th, 2020, 3:12 pm

maj. tom wrote:so she will continue doing that after she is elected into office?

But Trinidad people dotish. I going and take in some V.S. Naipaul literature later to remind me of that.
We live in a stupid country filled with stupid people bro .

PMM People took that bate and will be voting for dat

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Postby RedVEVO » July 24th, 2020, 3:15 pm

zoom rader wrote:
maj. tom wrote:so she will continue doing that after she is elected into office?

But Trinidad people dotish. I going and take in some V.S. Naipaul literature later to remind me of that.
We live in a stupid country filled with stupid people bro .

PMM People took that bate and will be voting for dat


Bait ..

Remember PNM is the yellow dude :roll:

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Postby zoom rader » July 24th, 2020, 3:16 pm

RedVEVO wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
maj. tom wrote:so she will continue doing that after she is elected into office?

But Trinidad people dotish. I going and take in some V.S. Naipaul literature later to remind me of that.
We live in a stupid country filled with stupid people bro .

PMM People took that bate and will be voting for dat


Bait ..

Remember PNM is the yellow dude :roll:
I live in trini and dat how's I rite

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