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Re: New $100 bill revealed

Postby Rovin » January 2nd, 2020, 2:13 pm

but if d man claim he had notes collected over a period of 19yrs , ent d notes prints were updated a couple times so that can be 1 way in his favor to prove his case , also d signatures of d various central bank governors throughout d past 19yrs

if they find a bunch of CHOGM notes those originated back in 2009 ...

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Re: New $100 bill revealed

Postby Redman » January 2nd, 2020, 2:49 pm

viedcht wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:I wonder if some drugs men brace him to launder their money....either for a fee or under gangster tactics
I feel is something so.


And this is the money that they didn’t get changed via other means.

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Re: New $100 bill revealed

Postby FrankChag » January 2nd, 2020, 3:06 pm

viedcht wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Opens mandir in the morning...
Nah, chuch go rake een more paypah



boxes of it...

http://newsday.co.tt/2020/01/02/iro-not ... bacchanal/


IRO not getting involved in $29m church bacchanal

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On Thursday morning, there were locked gates and no sign of anyone at the compound of a Longdenville church whose pastor is seeking to explain how he came to have $29 million in cash.

Newsday visited the church but was unable to get inside. There was an iron barricade at the entrance on Depot Road, and no other access to the building, which was shut tight.

The only evidence that someone might have been there was a blue van parked near a shed.

A nearby resident, who wished not to be named, said there is always a security guard present.

He said, “If you call out to the guard, he should be able to assist you.”

Newsday tried to get the guard’s attention but was unsuccessful, even with the aid of Longdenville police.

The 65-year-old pastor of the church tried to change the cash on December 31, mere minutes before the deadline for changing old $100 bills came into effect. He reportedly showed up at the Central Bank shortly before the bank closed, with 29 copy-paper boxes, each containing $1 million and said the money was his personal funds.

He was not arrested but the cash was seized and he will have to explain his source of income.

Head of the Inter-religious Organisation (IRO) Dr Knolly Clarke said when religious bodies engage in acts like this, it casts negativity on all religious bodies.

He said, “We are not saying that he has done something wrong or right. We really do not know as yet where the funds came from.

“But when something like this happens, people will think we are frauds and that the religious community is not upholding its integrity.”

Clarke added, “This church is not under the IRO and it will have to answer in accordance with the laws of TT. The IRO will not be getting involved."

He also explained, “Churches usually have audits, and money in the RC, Presbyterian and Anglican churches is handled by the parishes, not the pastors or priests.”

On December 5 last year, National Security Minister Stuart Young said the polymer $100 bill, which has now replaced the paper notes, would help fight money laundering and other illicit activities.


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Re: New $100 bill revealed

Postby toyolink » January 2nd, 2020, 4:20 pm

The conversion exercise has certainly opened up a whole new pandora's box for citizens who keep money at home.
What was meant to help law enforce authorities to target criminality may yield sadly new dangers for citizens who may be faced with home invasions by those who took note of their bank visits over the pass couple of weeks.
The risk management thinking by the authorities certainly demonstrated a truly foolish analysis or probably none at all.
The technical evaluation to support the unleashing of a whole set of new exposures on the average citizen does demonstrate quite a bit of myopia.

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Re: New $100 bill revealed

Postby zoom rader » January 2nd, 2020, 6:45 pm

Things to learn here never trust,

1. Banks
2. PNM
3. Churches

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Re: New $100 bill revealed

Postby rspann » January 2nd, 2020, 7:43 pm

zoom rader wrote:Things to learn here never trust,

1. Banks
2. PNM
3. Churches


4. Zoomrader to make a post without bad talking pnm.

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Re: New $100 bill revealed

Postby pugboy » January 2nd, 2020, 7:43 pm

5. Injuns in suits

rspann wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Things to learn here never trust,

1. Banks
2. PNM
3. Churches


4. Zoomrader to make a post without bad talking pnm.

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Re: New $100 bill revealed

Postby zoom rader » January 2nd, 2020, 7:50 pm

pugboy wrote:5. Injuns in suits

rspann wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Things to learn here never trust,

1. Banks
2. PNM
3. Churches


4. Zoomrader to make a post without bad talking pnm.
Bai I forgot dat one, thanks for reminding me.

4. Injuns in suits

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Re: New $100 bill revealed

Postby The_Honourable » January 2nd, 2020, 8:10 pm

Overheard a woman say "yuh can't even trust dem injun pastors and dem" :lol:

It's going to be weird when pastors ask for tithes and offerings in church this weekend :lol:

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The 65-year-old pastor of the church tried to change the cash on December 31, mere minutes before the deadline for changing old $100 bills came into effect. He reportedly showed up at the Central Bank shortly before the bank closed, with 29 copy-paper boxes, each containing $1 million and said the money was his personal funds.

He was not arrested but the cash was seized and he will have to explain his source of income.


dais d rub right dey. He not convicted of doing anything wrong, so the cash would have to changed and returned to him (hopefully as a cheque).

What's going to happen after: Al-Rawi will bring a "civil asset forfeiture"/"explain your wealth" case and the money would be taken, along with any houses, cars and lands the paster has not in line with his declared income. The headlines would be big and bold right around election time.

That man going to loss everything without so much as a single criminal conviction. :drinking:

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Postby zoom rader » January 2nd, 2020, 9:47 pm

The_Honourable wrote:Overheard a woman say "yuh can't even trust dem injun pastors and dem"

It's going to be weird when pastors ask for tithes and offerings in church this weekend
NEVER TRUST AN INJUN IN A SUIT

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Re: New $100 bill revealed

Postby De Dragon » January 2nd, 2020, 10:00 pm

paid_influencer wrote:
The 65-year-old pastor of the church tried to change the cash on December 31, mere minutes before the deadline for changing old $100 bills came into effect. He reportedly showed up at the Central Bank shortly before the bank closed, with 29 copy-paper boxes, each containing $1 million and said the money was his personal funds.

He was not arrested but the cash was seized and he will have to explain his source of income.


dais d rub right dey. He not convicted of doing anything wrong, so the cash would have to changed and returned to him (hopefully as a cheque).

What's going to happen after: Al-Rawi will bring a "civil asset forfeiture"/"explain your wealth" case and the money would be taken, along with any houses, cars and lands the paster has not in line with his declared income. The headlines would be big and bold right around election time.

That man going to loss everything without so much as a single criminal conviction. :drinking:

You do realize that in the history of T&T, no one has ever been convicted of money laundering? Not a single, solitary person? So pastor will prolly have to see a little stress for the while, but like the black sheep Syrian guy recently, he will eventually gt.

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Re: New $100 bill revealed

Postby paid_influencer » January 2nd, 2020, 10:07 pm

De Dragon wrote:You do realize that in the history of T&T, no one has ever been convicted of money laundering? Not a single, solitary person? So pastor will prolly have to see a little stress for the while, but like the black sheep Syrian guy recently, he will eventually gt.


if it wasn't an election year, I would agree.

but this guy is politically perfect for slaughter to the PNM masses.
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Re: New $100 bill revealed

Postby VexXx Dogg » January 2nd, 2020, 10:08 pm

zoom rader wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:Overheard a woman say "yuh can't even trust dem injun pastors and dem"

It's going to be weird when pastors ask for tithes and offerings in church this weekend
NEVER TRUST AN INJUN IN A SUIT


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Re: New $100 bill revealed

Postby VII » January 3rd, 2020, 12:21 am

Cops seize millions more at pastor's church


https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/cops-se ... 775f44d753

'Tithes'.. yeah sure..those thousands of envelopes with $100s seem staged..

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Re: New $100 bill revealed

Postby The_Honourable » January 3rd, 2020, 12:50 am

But wait... there's more

Cops seize millions more at pastor's church

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Po­lice seized mil­lions more in cash at the Third Ex­o­dus As­sem­bly Church in Long­denville head­ed by Pas­tor Vin­worth Day­al late Thurs­day evening.

The lat­est raid was con­duct­ed by of­fi­cers of the Fi­nan­cial In­tel­li­gence Unit (FIU) of the Trinidad and To­ba­go Po­lice Ser­vice with the help of the Fi­nan­cial In­tel­li­gence Branch (FIB), as they widened their in­ves­ti­ga­tion in­to the fi­nan­cial op­er­a­tions at the church.

Of­fi­cers from the FIU are in­ves­ti­gat­ing an in­ci­dent in which the pas­tor at­tempt­ed to change close to $29 mil­li­on in old $100 bills on De­cem­ber 31. That mon­ey has since been seized by the po­lice.

"It's mil­lions for sure," said a se­nior in­ves­ti­ga­tor who spoke with Guardian Me­dia fol­low­ing the po­lice search at the church that was con­duct­ed si­mul­ta­ne­ous­ly with an op­er­a­tion at an Ocean Av­enue home in Gulf View, La Ro­maine, on Thurs­day evening.

At the La Ro­maine house, which is oc­cu­pied by the pas­tor’s rel­a­tives, in­ves­ti­ga­tors on­ly seized doc­u­ments.

But at the church, in­ves­ti­ga­tors said they found large sums of $20, $10, $5 and $1 notes in a large cab­i­net.

“There were al­so large ev­i­den­tial bags filled with these notes as well. It's a lot!" one in­ves­ti­ga­tor ex­plained.

Sources said they found thou­sands of en­velopes that con­tained tithes, ac­cord­ing to Pas­tor Day­al, who was present dur­ing the search. The pas­tor, ac­cord­ing to in­ves­ti­ga­tors, ex­plained that they had large brown en­velopes and white en­velopes in­side of these brown en­velopes. The white en­velopes had old $100 bills that were re­moved to be ex­changed and the brown en­velopes con­tained all the "oth­er types of bills."

Sev­er­al stacks of the bills were tight­ly held to­geth­er by rub­ber bands that were found in the large bags or in­side the cab­i­net.

In­ves­ti­ga­tors said dur­ing the search Day­al kept telling po­lice that he would be vin­di­cat­ed and the mon­ey they saw came from tithes giv­en to him by his con­gre­ga­tion.

The large sum of mon­ey was tak­en away by of­fi­cers of the FIU and they will be start­ing a count on Fri­day to es­ti­mate ex­act­ly how much mon­ey they re­cov­ered on the church com­pound.

Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty Min­is­ter Stu­art Young said on De­cem­ber 5 last year that the new poly­mer $100 bill would help au­thor­i­ties in their fight against mon­ey laun­der­ing and oth­er il­le­gal op­er­a­tions. The pub­lic was ad­vised to change their old $100 bills for the new poly­mer $100 bills by De­cem­ber 31, 2019. How­ev­er, the pas­tor came un­der the radar af­ter he tried to change close to $29m on the dead­line day. Po­lice sub­se­quent­ly seized the mon­ey on the Pro­ceeds of Crime Act be­fore Thurs­day’s raid at the church.

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/cops-se ... 775f44d753

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Re: New $100 bill revealed

Postby supercharged turbo » January 3rd, 2020, 2:14 am

I never even hear about this pastor prior to this.IF and keyword being IF by some miracle this money was really generated through the church,imagine how much money Cuffie and Chankersingh could be rolling in

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Postby stev » January 3rd, 2020, 2:20 am

supercharged turbo wrote:I never even hear about this pastor prior to this.IF and keyword being IF by some miracle this money was really generated through the church,imagine how much money Cuffie and Chankersingh could be rolling in


standing orders from paychecks...yeh, it's a thing

$1 boxes, $ 20 boxes, $100 boxes being passed around 3 times a week in church (look of disgust if u don't dish out + God gonna condemn u if u don't)....no tax and no giving back to the needy....29mil not that hard to come by as u would think....especially when the local drug lord trying to launder it tru u...

hope his 'sheep' get an eye opener...i'm sure 85% of them can't even afford basic necessities...

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Re: New $100 bill revealed

Postby De Dragon » January 3rd, 2020, 6:18 am

paid_influencer wrote:
De Dragon wrote:You do realize that in the history of T&T, no one has ever been convicted of money laundering? Not a single, solitary person? So pastor will prolly have to see a little stress for the while, but like the black sheep Syrian guy recently, he will eventually gt.


if it wasn't an election year, I would agree.

but this guy is politically perfect for slaughter to the PNM masses.

Then they would have raided a mandir, thus erasing the counter "argument" of "buh he's ah Pentecostal!"

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Postby pugboy » January 3rd, 2020, 7:25 am

for sure
i live in woodbrook, there used to be a lil church on ana st near corner by wendys on ave
they were paying over $20k rent and the congregation wasnt that big.
they moved to an even bigger building a couple street away now.

supercharged turbo wrote:I never even hear about this pastor prior to this.IF and keyword being IF by some miracle this money was really generated through the church,imagine how much money Cuffie and Chankersingh could be rolling in

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Postby De Dragon » January 3rd, 2020, 7:34 am

stev wrote:
supercharged turbo wrote:I never even hear about this pastor prior to this.IF and keyword being IF by some miracle this money was really generated through the church,imagine how much money Cuffie and Chankersingh could be rolling in


standing orders from paychecks...yeh, it's a thing

$1 boxes, $ 20 boxes, $100 boxes being passed around 3 times a week in church (look of disgust if u don't dish out + God gonna condemn u if u don't)....no tax and no giving back to the needy....29mil not that hard to come by as u would think....especially when the local drug lord trying to launder it tru u...

hope his 'sheep' get an eye opener...i'm sure 85% of them can't even afford basic necessities...

Some of these people like PNM supporters, living in sheit, doled out by said PNM btw, but they'll never waver in their support.

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Postby agent007 » January 3rd, 2020, 7:54 am

Many pastors have their successorship plan through their son. A well thought out BCP plan to keep the riches in the family.

Think the one from the 5junction who also is part of this occult. Then Ruth son with his john Maxwell certs so he can be your life coach and financial mentor. Wrt the former cinema on prince, he more or less ousted himself to make way for his son. Older, more experienced and actually qualified people got bypassed for promotion and these sons are set to takeover. Billboard pastor from chase on another kind of pill these days and caroni savannah is absolut high probably sticking more dollar signs in his fake sanctuary. Then we have one from dsmith constituency, a small congregation filled with mostly pensioners and he buy brand new hybrid car cash.

These pentecostal pastors who most seem to be overnight doctors of theology and call themselves Bishops, Visionaries, Founders, CEOs of ministry, Apostles etc. What a joke! At least IML would never reach as bad as these religious rackets cause you bound to get some $ through MLM hence the pyramid but in a church you might get a small cup of grape juice and a piece a wafer to partake in communion first Sunday of a financial month. All them tithes and offerings going to the pastor and the congregations dotish to keep giving with zero accountability.

NB. Soon I'll buss a mark on alluh concerning a story of ruth. If you think $28M is big.....

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Postby zoom rader » January 3rd, 2020, 8:25 am

When you see an injun pastor is too run.

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Postby maj. tom » January 3rd, 2020, 8:44 am

If that pastor had any sense he could have been laundering that money easy, easy over the years with not a soul knowing. In the end the most he could have lost was small change liquid cash in a box, like $1M? Church laundering money so easy eh. Art for the church is one of the easiest ways. Why he was putting this money away in cardboard boxes anyway? He could have deposited every year in an account registered to the church and declare it as church plate collection. No taxes, just a bank fee. Then hire a consultant to hide it in the Cayman Islands through shares in all the 1% companies.

Have many things too he could have used. Real estate. Casino investments. Used cars. TT authorities don't blink at those things. It have more than meets the eye to this, if a man has $29M in cardboard boxes under his bed.

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Postby zoom rader » January 3rd, 2020, 9:22 am

^^^ Well PNM shot themselfs in the foot for their cake sales

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Re: New $100 bill revealed

Postby Chimera » January 3rd, 2020, 9:22 am

No one was really expecting that currency change over. Real ppl get caught with their pants down and had to pay businessmen to change their money for them.

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Postby Dizzy28 » January 3rd, 2020, 9:23 am

maj. tom wrote:If that pastor had any sense he could have been laundering that money easy, easy over the years with not a soul knowing. In the end the most he could have lost was small change liquid cash in a box, like $1M? Church laundering money so easy eh. Art for the church is one of the easiest ways. Why he was putting this money away in cardboard boxes anyway? He could have deposited every year in an account registered to the church and declare it as church plate collection. No taxes, just a bank fee. Then hire a consultant to hide it in the Cayman Islands through shares in all the 1% companies.

Have many things too he could have used. Real estate. Casino investments. Used cars. TT authorities don't blink at those things. It have more than meets the eye to this, if a man has $29M in cardboard boxes under his bed.


Seems like you describing Marty Byrde there

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Postby zoom rader » January 3rd, 2020, 9:26 am

Phone Surgeon wrote:No one was really expecting that currency change over. Real ppl get caught with their pants down and had to pay businessmen to change their money for them.
I% expected it

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Postby Dizzy28 » January 3rd, 2020, 9:42 am

Phone Surgeon wrote:No one was really expecting that currency change over. Real ppl get caught with their pants down and had to pay businessmen to change their money for them.


People had to have known (and by the volume of STRs recorded by FIU seems it was big players)
Q3 2019 had such a big spike in laundering that it can't be coincidental.
Based on the figures below that works out to almost 1.8m/transaction.

An estimated $749 million in "dirty money" got laundered as "clean currency" in the months leading up to Government and the Central Bank's changeover of $100 bills to the difficult-to-duplicate polymer notes.

The Financial Intelligence Unit (FIU) reports that 429 transactions, amounting to $749,024,557, is the highest recorded number of money laundering cases in the last three years, and occurred between July and September.
https://newsday.co.tt/2019/12/15/749m-in-dirty-money/

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Postby zoom rader » January 3rd, 2020, 9:45 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:No one was really expecting that currency change over. Real ppl get caught with their pants down and had to pay businessmen to change their money for them.


People had to have known (and by the volume of STRs recorded by FIU seems it was big players)
Q3 2019 had such a big spike in laundering that it can't be coincidental.
Based on the figures below that works out to almost 1.8m/transaction.

An estimated $749 million in "dirty money" got laundered as "clean currency" in the months leading up to Government and the Central Bank's changeover of $100 bills to the difficult-to-duplicate polymer notes.

The Financial Intelligence Unit (FIU) reports that 429 transactions, amounting to $749,024,557, is the highest recorded number of money laundering cases in the last three years, and occurred between July and September.
https://newsday.co.tt/2019/12/15/749m-in-dirty-money/
The 1% fishes got away .

I guess they was told to get their house in order.

Pastor Lal and barber kwame have to take the squeeze balls to make PNM look good

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