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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby j.o.e » August 4th, 2019, 4:17 pm

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j.o.e wrote:I love how ppl like to show the 1% success as the failure of the govt. Here’s news for you. They will do well either way because they are builders of business and capital. You think they’re gonna suffer if/when govt changes? Of Gov’t has you suffering I have some news for you. It’s probably your fault more than theirs


Wow, you must live under a rock. That 1% community not only has all the money and business but an unfair advantage over everyone else for the past 3-4 decades. How many years they rented empty buildings to the Govt and collected millions and still continue to do so, how many acres of govt land they get to lease for $100 to build empires to rake in more money, how many govt contracts they get to supply vehicles and office supplies, how many tax concessions they alone get to bring in their garbage to offload on the public?

Give a black man a chance and he might be able to get something too and make an honest dollar.


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Postby The_Honourable » August 4th, 2019, 4:50 pm

^^^ LOL

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby j.o.e » August 4th, 2019, 6:34 pm

Anybody who believes that Govt handouts is what got the 1% where they are and believe that those handouts will get their clan there setting themselves up for disappointment and secretly is OK with corruption once it benefits them and theirs. Which is the basis of our politics whether red or yellow

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby Rovin » August 4th, 2019, 6:52 pm

1% started from d beginning probably even b4 T&T got independence & republic

though is only since d anthony bourdain show we all started using d term 1% alot .....

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby zoom rader » August 4th, 2019, 7:48 pm

Rovin wrote:1% started from d beginning probably even b4 T&T got independence & republic

though is only since d anthony bourdain show we all started using d term 1% alot .....
1% grandparents where the hard working folk just after WW2 when they came. They were the ones that really worked hard selling cloths for door to door. They sold cloths all over trini and even on credit. They just got big selling door to door and eventually buying stores.

During this time they gambled hard with known gansters of thar era like Boysie Singh and other mobsters. They were hustling these gansters and milking them . They was always dealing with the underworld. Read the book the murders of Boysie Singh, there is a chapter on this explaining how they stated to get big.

Their offsprings just expanded their cloth bussiness and grew in the 1960s. They were always dealing in shady businesses and kept a very low profiled.

That's how they all stated out.

Anyone who thinks they are respectable and honest are really stupid clowns.


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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby Zetski » August 6th, 2019, 12:03 am

zoom rader wrote:
Rovin wrote:1% started from d beginning probably even b4 T&T got independence & republic

though is only since d anthony bourdain show we all started using d term 1% alot .....
1% grandparents where the hard working folk just after WW2 when they came. They were the ones that really worked hard selling cloths for door to door. They sold cloths all over trini and even on credit. They just got big selling door to door and eventually buying stores.

During this time they gambled hard with known gansters of thar era like Boysie Singh and other mobsters. They were hustling these gansters and milking them . They was always dealing with the underworld. Read the book the murders of Boysie Singh, there is a chapter on this explaining how they stated to get big.

Their offsprings just expanded their cloth bussiness and grew in the 1960s. They were always dealing in shady businesses and kept a very low profiled.

That's how they all stated out.

Anyone who thinks they are respectable and honest are really stupid clowns.


the ones that started in the 60's were the ones that brought them to this high position they in right now... their offspring (present) dont know what the hell they are doing... they inherited the business so they just lackadaisical

not saying all offspring that took over are not carrying the torch but i know a good few of them that lazy, travelling 10 times for the year, barely around and just letting others run their business to the ground :lol:

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby hong kong phooey » August 6th, 2019, 1:13 am

man no beat up
in a couple months they going to decriminalize weed (not legalize) so all the sheit for the last 4 years will be forgotten
because most of the supporters doh know the difference
then if they get back in power see how many people going to get charged . because the only way the poison dwarf knows to make money is by raping the public

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby sMASH » August 6th, 2019, 6:06 am

it seems as though, they may go the route to mostly benefit the big business to produce and profit. not so much the small man. but, awaits to be seen

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby zoom rader » August 6th, 2019, 7:52 am

Zetski wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Rovin wrote:1% started from d beginning probably even b4 T&T got independence & republic

though is only since d anthony bourdain show we all started using d term 1% alot .....
1% grandparents where the hard working folk just after WW2 when they came. They were the ones that really worked hard selling cloths for door to door. They sold cloths all over trini and even on credit. They just got big selling door to door and eventually buying stores.

During this time they gambled hard with known gansters of thar era like Boysie Singh and other mobsters. They were hustling these gansters and milking them . They was always dealing with the underworld. Read the book the murders of Boysie Singh, there is a chapter on this explaining how they stated to get big.

Their offsprings just expanded their cloth bussiness and grew in the 1960s. They were always dealing in shady businesses and kept a very low profiled.

That's how they all stated out.

Anyone who thinks they are respectable and honest are really stupid clowns.


the ones that started in the 60's were the ones that brought them to this high position they in right now... their offspring (present) dont know what the hell they are doing... they inherited the business so they just lackadaisical

not saying all offspring that took over are not carrying the torch but i know a good few of them that lazy, travelling 10 times for the year, barely around and just letting others run their business to the ground :lol:


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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby hydroep » August 6th, 2019, 8:09 am

Clinging to a straw in a nation on the brink

THE EDITOR: Immersed as a citizen of this nation “in a sea of troubles,” I feel like a drowning man clinging to a straw in finding a small measure of comfort in three recent developments: the dispelling of the rumour that the funeral service of a recognised gangster would be held in a place of learning, that the DPP would revisit the AV case of the allegedly abused journalist and the coming together of Government and Opposition to pass the bail bill.

The first, if brought to reality, would have wreaked of the ultimate insensitivity to the contradiction involved in that happening and the inevitable negative reaction ensuing, the avoidance of which is to the credit of the Education Ministry.

Secondly , the return to the AV case puts to bed, at least momentarily, that loss of faith in the justice system which seemed to have set aside due process in this instance.

Thirdly, the unity on the bail bill of perennially warring factions in a just national cause of mitigating a runaway crime situation which was likely to escalate further, the nation being on the brink of anarchy, is reason for some small celebration.

Finding some comfort in these seemingly insignificant events is a measure of my yearning for something to rally around, a small step to the way forward. For of late I had put a halt to my letters to the editor, for the simple reason that continuing in that vein seemed such an exercise in futility since the ethical, moral and professional standards which often underpin my commentary and the logic and good sense I often appeal to, evidently continue to blow idly in the wind.

For example, the continuing war between the leadership and the judiciary which is escalating by the hour shows no awareness on both sides of the negative effect such can have on the effective administration of justice and the public confidence in same.

Again the singling out of one ethnic group in terms of its under-achievement as against the perceived government indifference to the plight of another now in the throes of mourning for their dead at the hand of criminals, can only exacerbate racial tensions, as the near confrontational stance between these two groups on the waterfront amply demonstrates.

And what can be said about the crime? The plaintive cry of a father from Carli Bay that “they coulda tie dey hand and let them go…why did dey have to kill dem so?” tells of man’s inhumanity to man in this country, how we have become “monsters of the deep,” in the words of Lear in that great play by Shakespeare on the unnatural “ingratitude of his daughters,” with the slaughter of the helpless, handicapped, granny of Cachipe, Moruga, speaking no less.

And I can go on and on and on…But the point is clear.

We are a nation on the brink of anarchy, which is why these three small incidents are important to me for it gives me hope that those who control our lives, that despite everything, they have the capacity to think critically of the consequences of what they say and do, and possess the humanity that attends it.

We are ever aware, however, of the psychology of power, and that despite the best of intentions, how it can “corrupt,” and often “absolutely” so.

Even as I write and draw sustenance from the Opposition/Government unity on the bail bill, already a government official, according to a news item, instead of building on that unity, is virtually scoffing at that unity, suggesting that the Opposition voted for the bill because of “public” pressure. The road is indeed long.

Perhaps I am a drowning man clinging to a straw but as tenuous as this is, I still seem to have much more than the fishermen of Carli Bay, forced to drown in the deep ocean without even a straw to hold onto.

DR ERROL N BENJAMIN

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https://newsday.co.tt/2019/08/06/clinging-to-a-straw-in-a-nation-on-the-brink/

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby Ben_spanna » August 6th, 2019, 8:22 am

Who am I to say anything but I will Never understand How that company continues to get such lucrative contracts without any legitimate bidding process.
I guess its like the pervious scenario, just COLD HEarted facts...…..

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » August 8th, 2019, 10:01 am

Word going around is the DPP gave instructions to execute a warrant on the premises of Marlene....confirm it deh allyuh

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby DTAC » August 8th, 2019, 10:16 am

Yup. Warrant executed. Officers still on scene. Misappropriating of Funds.

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby zoom rader » August 8th, 2019, 10:19 am

DTAC wrote:Yup. Warrant executed. Officers still on scene. Misappropriating of Funds.

Stupes, nothing will come out of this .

Mere window dressing

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby ek4ever » August 8th, 2019, 11:05 am

eliteauto wrote:
Gladiator wrote:
j.o.e wrote:I love how ppl like to show the 1% success as the failure of the govt. Here’s news for you. They will do well either way because they are builders of business and capital. You think they’re gonna suffer if/when govt changes? Of Gov’t has you suffering I have some news for you. It’s probably your fault more than theirs


Wow, you must live under a rock. That 1% community not only has all the money and business but an unfair advantage over everyone else for the past 3-4 decades. How many years they rented empty buildings to the Govt and collected millions and still continue to do so, how many acres of govt land they get to lease for $100 to build empires to rake in more money, how many govt contracts they get to supply vehicles and office supplies, how many tax concessions they alone get to bring in their garbage to offload on the public?

Give a black man a chance and he might be able to get something too and make an honest dollar.


How did they become so influential?
Drugs - > $$$$ - > influence

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby De Dragon » August 8th, 2019, 5:55 pm

hydroep wrote:
Clinging to a straw in a nation on the brink

THE EDITOR: Immersed as a citizen of this nation “in a sea of troubles,” I feel like a drowning man clinging to a straw in finding a small measure of comfort in three recent developments: the dispelling of the rumour that the funeral service of a recognised gangster would be held in a place of learning, that the DPP would revisit the AV case of the allegedly abused journalist and the coming together of Government and Opposition to pass the bail bill.

The first, if brought to reality, would have wreaked of the ultimate insensitivity to the contradiction involved in that happening and the inevitable negative reaction ensuing, the avoidance of which is to the credit of the Education Ministry.

Secondly , the return to the AV case puts to bed, at least momentarily, that loss of faith in the justice system which seemed to have set aside due process in this instance.

Thirdly, the unity on the bail bill of perennially warring factions in a just national cause of mitigating a runaway crime situation which was likely to escalate further, the nation being on the brink of anarchy, is reason for some small celebration.

Finding some comfort in these seemingly insignificant events is a measure of my yearning for something to rally around, a small step to the way forward. For of late I had put a halt to my letters to the editor, for the simple reason that continuing in that vein seemed such an exercise in futility since the ethical, moral and professional standards which often underpin my commentary and the logic and good sense I often appeal to, evidently continue to blow idly in the wind.

For example, the continuing war between the leadership and the judiciary which is escalating by the hour shows no awareness on both sides of the negative effect such can have on the effective administration of justice and the public confidence in same.

Again the singling out of one ethnic group in terms of its under-achievement as against the perceived government indifference to the plight of another now in the throes of mourning for their dead at the hand of criminals, can only exacerbate racial tensions, as the near confrontational stance between these two groups on the waterfront amply demonstrates.

And what can be said about the crime? The plaintive cry of a father from Carli Bay that “they coulda tie dey hand and let them go…why did dey have to kill dem so?” tells of man’s inhumanity to man in this country, how we have become “monsters of the deep,” in the words of Lear in that great play by Shakespeare on the unnatural “ingratitude of his daughters,” with the slaughter of the helpless, handicapped, granny of Cachipe, Moruga, speaking no less.

And I can go on and on and on…But the point is clear.

We are a nation on the brink of anarchy, which is why these three small incidents are important to me for it gives me hope that those who control our lives, that despite everything, they have the capacity to think critically of the consequences of what they say and do, and possess the humanity that attends it.

We are ever aware, however, of the psychology of power, and that despite the best of intentions, how it can “corrupt,” and often “absolutely” so.

Even as I write and draw sustenance from the Opposition/Government unity on the bail bill, already a government official, according to a news item, instead of building on that unity, is virtually scoffing at that unity, suggesting that the Opposition voted for the bill because of “public” pressure. The road is indeed long.

Perhaps I am a drowning man clinging to a straw but as tenuous as this is, I still seem to have much more than the fishermen of Carli Bay, forced to drown in the deep ocean without even a straw to hold onto.

DR ERROL N BENJAMIN

via e-mail


https://newsday.co.tt/2019/08/06/clinging-to-a-straw-in-a-nation-on-the-brink/

I have some news for Dr. Benjamin. The last two things that he cited were in effect, fooling himself.
The Judiciary missed the ultimate chance to restore its credibility when through the cowardice of the PM, CJ Archie was allowed to escape sanction for several infractions that were obvious to anyone who cared to look deeply enough, and properly enough, to see. In fact, CJ Archie's unseemly haste to start to punish those who spoke out against him once he was "cleared", only bolsters the plainly obvious fact that this man is simply unfit to hold that office.
The Bail Bill's passage was purely political, as the UNC is confident that nothing will change, but did sense that people were accusing them of not caring. In essence a win-win for them either way the coin lands.

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby Zetski » August 8th, 2019, 5:57 pm

zoom rader wrote:
DTAC wrote:Yup. Warrant executed. Officers still on scene. Misappropriating of Funds.

Stupes, nothing will come out of this .

Mere window dressing


only thing will come out of this is another cabinet switcheroo

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Postby zoom rader » August 8th, 2019, 6:44 pm

Zetski wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
DTAC wrote:Yup. Warrant executed. Officers still on scene. Misappropriating of Funds.

Stupes, nothing will come out of this .

Mere window dressing


only thing will come out of this is another cabinet switcheroo
This is to fool the pnm public

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Postby Zetski » August 8th, 2019, 9:36 pm

All this and they will still vote back PNM because indos just want to bring down afros while their own afro brother/sister cutting their throat... WE RED AND READY!

I fraid to go down couva side cuz of d inseedent but i can kajuwally walk thru beetham to geh bade in pee pee wataaa hehehe

THE GUBBAMENT OF TREENIDAD AND TOBOGO WILL NOT KLOZ DONG PEHCHOCHIN!!

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » August 9th, 2019, 4:35 am

all them seats in the west will never change color....NEVER....all they see is red....

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Postby zoom rader » August 9th, 2019, 4:44 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:all them seats in the west will never change color....NEVER....all they see is red....
These people are the reason why we are a chit hole.

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Postby sMASH » August 9th, 2019, 7:06 am

zoom rader wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:all them seats in the west will never change color....NEVER....all they see is red....
These people are the reason why we are a chit hole.

are they presented with viable alternatives?

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby Ben_spanna » August 9th, 2019, 7:20 am

sMASH wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:all them seats in the west will never change color....NEVER....all they see is red....
These people are the reason why we are a chit hole.

are they presented with viable alternatives?


I dont think it matters to be quite honest, some people are just too ignorant to even take the time to care or think of their current situation and what they can do to try and improve it. Some will try however the numbers that want a change are usually overpowered by the criminal element and those who bask in the delight of the corruption.

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby zoom rader » August 9th, 2019, 7:38 am

sMASH wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:all them seats in the west will never change color....NEVER....all they see is red....
These people are the reason why we are a chit hole.

are they presented with viable alternatives?
In the Panday era we was on the right track.

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby sMASH » August 9th, 2019, 6:09 pm

if they dont see a viable that can help them improve, then might as well stick to what they know. better the devil that u know.

i say, the other parties need to do more to make inroads.

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby De Dragon » August 9th, 2019, 6:24 pm

sMASH wrote:if they dont see a viable that can help them improve, then might as well stick to what they know. better the devil that u know.

i say, the other parties need to do more to make inroads.

I hear you, but their reps aren't even trying. What said reps are excellent at however, is demonizing the alternatives, viable or not, to the point where they will never even get a foot in the door.

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » August 9th, 2019, 6:32 pm

Councillors in certain constituencies in the west are chosen by the community leaders...the screening is just a formality...MPs on the other hand go to the community leaders to do the ground work and they are in turn rewarded with govt contracts

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby Rovin » August 9th, 2019, 6:40 pm

i feel election next yr is a unc mamaguy play

kams & d rest really eh want d wuk to go clean up all d shiit rowdy dem doing so they\unc playing a game like they really want in but in their minds is like nah let he rowdy stay dey & wallow in he own shiit dat he created ....

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Re: PNM in Gov't - 3 AND AH HALF YEARS LATER!!!!

Postby one eye » August 9th, 2019, 7:40 pm

After the unc drained the treasury, stole, mismanaged our resources, you have the audacity to blame the present administration for their inability to provide for t&t

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