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Re: Energy Sector Thread - Operators, Engineers, Technicians Et Al

Postby trinidrift » April 10th, 2019, 7:47 pm

I also heard Bp or owtu get the refinery but as you said it ify so it's just a waiting game

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Postby vaiostation » April 10th, 2019, 8:41 pm

Anybody know the current status of Mittal?
I remember a few years ago people said someone would buy them over, but never heard anything since.

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Postby rayrayray » April 10th, 2019, 8:41 pm

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Postby nervewrecker » April 10th, 2019, 8:51 pm

vaiostation wrote:Anybody know the current status of Mittal?
I remember a few years ago people said someone would buy them over, but never heard anything since.


Nothing.

Have Mittal men as students.

Also one is an uncle.

talk was nu iron buy them or some shiz so.

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Postby sMASH » April 10th, 2019, 10:20 pm

ent nu iron did buy piece of the property? just the DR 3 and sumting else. come like they didnt buy the car, just the turbo and the diff.

they could really refit mittal and do sumting. like probably the aluminium milling to start off with.

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Postby ProtonPowder » April 10th, 2019, 11:33 pm

DreamWeaver wrote:Anybody know what going on with ipsl? My buddy say that they ain't hiring anybody permanent again until further notice. They say is because govt aint giving them new gas contracts for their methanol plants which currently running on a gas bligh. But I hearing all other places getting contracts renewed. Allyuh think proman contemplating that point lisas days numbered and they just milking whatever they have left?

Them busy hiring their HoDs children and temple friends as new hires.

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Postby death365 » April 11th, 2019, 12:01 pm

ProtonPowder wrote:
DreamWeaver wrote:Anybody know what going on with ipsl? My buddy say that they ain't hiring anybody permanent again until further notice. They say is because govt aint giving them new gas contracts for their methanol plants which currently running on a gas bligh. But I hearing all other places getting contracts renewed. Allyuh think proman contemplating that point lisas days numbered and they just milking whatever they have left?

Them busy hiring their HoDs children and temple friends as new hires.


what does VEX meh is ... if u sit back an do whats right - people u know telling u that u dutty not to help. when u helping people u know ( to serve God is to serve people) - people u dont know telling u that u dutty to help people u kno.

Oh well :fist:

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Postby Numb3r4 » April 11th, 2019, 7:10 pm

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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Postby JDM_23 » April 11th, 2019, 7:21 pm

ProtonPowder wrote:
DreamWeaver wrote:Anybody know what going on with ipsl? My buddy say that they ain't hiring anybody permanent again until further notice. They say is because govt aint giving them new gas contracts for their methanol plants which currently running on a gas bligh. But I hearing all other places getting contracts renewed. Allyuh think proman contemplating that point lisas days numbered and they just milking whatever they have left?

Them busy hiring their HoDs children and temple friends as new hires.


This maybe occurs at the majority of companies, in that someone has to know you for you to get in. In addition, I find that this is unfair to other qualified candidates as those candidates who are known by the higher ups in the companies and because of nepotism are provided with an unfair advantage.

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Postby trinidrift » April 11th, 2019, 8:57 pm

JDM_23 wrote:
ProtonPowder wrote:
DreamWeaver wrote:Anybody know what going on with ipsl? My buddy say that they ain't hiring anybody permanent again until further notice. They say is because govt aint giving them new gas contracts for their methanol plants which currently running on a gas bligh. But I hearing all other places getting contracts renewed. Allyuh think proman contemplating that point lisas days numbered and they just milking whatever they have left?

Them busy hiring their HoDs children and temple friends as new hires.


This maybe occurs at the majority of companies, in that someone has to know you for you to get in. In addition, I find that this is unfair to other qualified candidates as those candidates who are known by the higher ups in the companies and because of nepotism are provided with an unfair advantage.

I agree

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Postby PapaC » April 12th, 2019, 8:02 am

It's been that way since the beginning of time.
Character references is an approved part or reviewing candidates.
I got my jobs without the nefarious scenario you guys alluding to though, but such is life.

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Postby Joshie23 » April 12th, 2019, 9:54 am

JDM_23 wrote:This maybe occurs at the majority of companies, in that someone has to know you for you to get in. In addition, I find that this is unfair to other qualified candidates as those candidates who are known by the higher ups in the companies and because of nepotism are provided with an unfair advantage.


So for the sake of engagement (brace yourself; unpopular opinion coming). If any one of you have a child (not nephew, neighbour or padna..your own child) that went to school, fought hard, graduated and thus became qualified for a position in the company that you also fought hard and climbed your way up in..all of you are saying that you'd leave your children to fight on their own afterwards? You wouldn't throw at least some of your weight behind them?? Bear in mind, they're qualified eh..no 'square peg, round hole just to make a money' kinda thing. You all are sending your children to school to become highly qualified just to shake their hands after it all and wish them the best in their endeavours?

I call BS.

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Postby trinidrift » April 12th, 2019, 10:00 am

If they are anything like my parents no. You carve your own road make your own mistakes and you will appreciate it better.
Joshie23 wrote:
JDM_23 wrote:This maybe occurs at the majority of companies, in that someone has to know you for you to get in. In addition, I find that this is unfair to other qualified candidates as those candidates who are known by the higher ups in the companies and because of nepotism are provided with an unfair advantage.


So for the sake of engagement (brace yourself; unpopular opinion coming). If any one of you have a child (not nephew, neighbour or padna..your own child) that went to school, fought hard, graduated and thus became qualified for a position in the company that you also fought hard and climbed your way up in..all of you are saying that you'd leave your children to fight on their own afterwards? You wouldn't throw at least some of your weight behind them?? Bear in mind, they're qualified eh..no 'square peg, round hole just to make a money' kinda thing. You all are sending your children to school to become highly qualified just to shake their hands after it all and wish them the best in their endeavours?

I call BS.


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Postby Joshie23 » April 12th, 2019, 10:47 am

trinidrift wrote:If they are anything like my parents no. You carve your own road make your own mistakes and you will appreciate it better.
Joshie23 wrote:
JDM_23 wrote:This maybe occurs at the majority of companies, in that someone has to know you for you to get in. In addition, I find that this is unfair to other qualified candidates as those candidates who are known by the higher ups in the companies and because of nepotism are provided with an unfair advantage.


So for the sake of engagement (brace yourself; unpopular opinion coming). If any one of you have a child (not nephew, neighbour or padna..your own child) that went to school, fought hard, graduated and thus became qualified for a position in the company that you also fought hard and climbed your way up in..all of you are saying that you'd leave your children to fight on their own afterwards? You wouldn't throw at least some of your weight behind them?? Bear in mind, they're qualified eh..no 'square peg, round hole just to make a money' kinda thing. You all are sending your children to school to become highly qualified just to shake their hands after it all and wish them the best in their endeavours?

I call BS.


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I understand, but again, remember we're not talking about a not-so-bright prettyboy or stargirl that got jammed in an office to make money without hard work. We're talking about someone who sacrificed and got their qualifications. That doesn't sound like someone that doesn't have appreciation for failures. Again, it's an unpopular opinion but to each their own.

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Postby nervewrecker » April 12th, 2019, 11:43 pm

Joshie23 wrote:
JDM_23 wrote:This maybe occurs at the majority of companies, in that someone has to know you for you to get in. In addition, I find that this is unfair to other qualified candidates as those candidates who are known by the higher ups in the companies and because of nepotism are provided with an unfair advantage.


So for the sake of engagement (brace yourself; unpopular opinion coming). If any one of you have a child (not nephew, neighbour or padna..your own child) that went to school, fought hard, graduated and thus became qualified for a position in the company that you also fought hard and climbed your way up in..all of you are saying that you'd leave your children to fight on their own afterwards? You wouldn't throw at least some of your weight behind them?? Bear in mind, they're qualified eh..no 'square peg, round hole just to make a money' kinda thing. You all are sending your children to school to become highly qualified just to shake their hands after it all and wish them the best in their endeavours?

I call BS.
I actually know of a very high ranking person in a certain oil company that will nit higher his highly qualified wife for professional reasons. Mind you, she meet and beat the requirements.
He is also a relative of mine. Can practically tell me show up for work monday. I never sent an application becausewe dont do it like that on this end. We get through on our own merit.

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Postby Joshie23 » April 13th, 2019, 8:31 am

nervewrecker wrote:
Joshie23 wrote:
JDM_23 wrote:This maybe occurs at the majority of companies, in that someone has to know you for you to get in. In addition, I find that this is unfair to other qualified candidates as those candidates who are known by the higher ups in the companies and because of nepotism are provided with an unfair advantage.


So for the sake of engagement (brace yourself; unpopular opinion coming). If any one of you have a child (not nephew, neighbour or padna..your own child) that went to school, fought hard, graduated and thus became qualified for a position in the company that you also fought hard and climbed your way up in..all of you are saying that you'd leave your children to fight on their own afterwards? You wouldn't throw at least some of your weight behind them?? Bear in mind, they're qualified eh..no 'square peg, round hole just to make a money' kinda thing. You all are sending your children to school to become highly qualified just to shake their hands after it all and wish them the best in their endeavours?

I call BS.
I actually know of a very high ranking person in a certain oil company that will nit higher his highly qualified wife for professional reasons. Mind you, she meet and beat the requirements.
He is also a relative of mine. Can practically tell me show up for work monday. I never sent an application becausewe dont do it like that on this end. We get through on our own merit.


Sending an application doesn't mean your family member has to help you though. Also, I said child..my child your child..not a third party connection. Further to that, I never said that as a parent I'll bypass every step to get my child inside..note I said throw some weight behind them. The way you all are making it sound is that you'll invest for 18-20 years in your child's education, future etc. and then throw them to the wolves. Hold strain. I had to fight up, so you fight up now, when the reality is, it's happening everywhere and to make it worse, some of those that were 'helped' don't even have papers to stand in the reception area, far less for the position they're in.

Personally, once they have the qualifications, responsibility, etc., if I can give so much as a recommendation based on my own work ethic and what not, I'm helping my offspring. Sometimes, just a last name is enough to get you enough respect to get in the door for an interview. How do we stop that? Is that nepotism? Inadvertent nepotism? You all might not agree with me, but like I said it's an unpopular opinion. We could say what we want on the internet because no one is watching (and that's not a jab at you, Nerve), but I still call BS.

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Postby trinidrift » April 13th, 2019, 8:49 am

In my case the most I ever got was the interview, never hired because of family/friend connections. After that i had to sink or swim. I would do the same for my kids. My parents stopped supporting me @ 18 so I was forced to get a job, finance my schooling and make a contribution to the household. Unlike many people I know who got hired because of connections and don't have a clue what a npt bolt is and continuously screw up and guess what never fired or disciplined. Tell me what is fair in that?

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Postby Joshie23 » April 13th, 2019, 3:19 pm

trinidrift wrote:In my case the most I ever got was the interview, never hired because of family/friend connections. After that i had to sink or swim. I would do the same for my kids. My parents stopped supporting me @ 18 so I was forced to get a job, finance my schooling and make a contribution to the household. Unlike many people I know who got hired because of connections and don't have a clue what a npt bolt is and continuously screw up and guess what never fired or disciplined. Tell me what is fair in that?


Ditto to the part in bold. I know the sacrifices of balancing school/work/family. My eldest brother squandered a lot of resources so my father gave the rest of us some excuse as to why he won't finance us through university and that is exactly why I won't throw my offspring to the sharks. A lot of us grew up with parents that have/had the 'I had to suffer, so you should too' mentality and I don't subscribe to that. As for the part in red, sometimes that's all it takes, which is why I need to make sure my people are qualified.

Again, this is the internet so I can say what I want and not mean it, but personally I'm disciplined enough to know that I can't put my name and years of networking and building a reputation for myself behind someone who won't appreciate it, so once you've made sacrifices of your own, I'll stretch my hand as much as I ethically can.

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Postby ProtonPowder » April 13th, 2019, 3:38 pm

Joshie23 wrote:
JDM_23 wrote:So for the sake of engagement (brace yourself; unpopular opinion coming). If any one of you have a child (not nephew, neighbour or padna..your own child) that went to school, fought hard, graduated and thus became qualified for a position in the company that you also fought hard and climbed your way up in..all of you are saying that you'd leave your children to fight on their own afterwards? You wouldn't throw at least some of your weight behind them?? Bear in mind, they're qualified eh..no 'square peg, round hole just to make a money' kinda thing. You all are sending your children to school to become highly qualified just to shake their hands after it all and wish them the best in their endeavours?

I call BS.

You think this situation happens often? Nah jed. Most times you send the child to UWI to purposely get a degree in the field you have a big wuk in to ensure that they get a big job after.

Or even better, send the child to UWI to "just do something nah oh gosh, just get a degree" and take 4 years to get a bare pass degree in psychology and no minor. Then they get shoehorned into the HR department or something similar.

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Postby Animal Pak » April 13th, 2019, 4:28 pm

I work for an international oil and gas company. We have over 250 employees. I can guarantee that each and every one of them was a pull in. They all have the required qualifications for their position. However is the link you need to separate the chaff from the wheat. The average HR is just not going to go through hundreds of resumes and do tens of interviews to get someone. That is just not how the world works in 2019. Either you make some friends or you make some roti. It is what it is.

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Animal Pak wrote:I work for an international oil and gas company. We have over 250 employees. I can guarantee that each and every one of them was a pull in. They all have the required qualifications for their position. However is the link you need to separate the chaff from the wheat. The average HR is just not going to go through hundreds of resumes and do tens of interviews to get someone. That is just not how the world works in 2019. Either you make some friends or you make some roti. It is what it is.
It's all About who knows u and who u know... If u don't make friends or pull Smalls with people then crapaud smoke yuh pipe.

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Postby trinidrift » April 13th, 2019, 7:52 pm

Preach brother
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Animal Pak wrote:I work for an international oil and gas company. We have over 250 employees. I can guarantee that each and every one of them was a pull in. They all have the required qualifications for their position. However is the link you need to separate the chaff from the wheat. The average HR is just not going to go through hundreds of resumes and do tens of interviews to get someone. That is just not how the world works in 2019. Either you make some friends or you make some roti. It is what it is.
It's all About who knows u and who u know... If u don't make friends or pull Smalls with people then crapaud smoke yuh pipe.

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Postby JDM_23 » April 13th, 2019, 8:04 pm

ProtonPowder wrote:
Joshie23 wrote:
JDM_23 wrote:So for the sake of engagement (brace yourself; unpopular opinion coming). If any one of you have a child (not nephew, neighbour or padna..your own child) that went to school, fought hard, graduated and thus became qualified for a position in the company that you also fought hard and climbed your way up in..all of you are saying that you'd leave your children to fight on their own afterwards? You wouldn't throw at least some of your weight behind them?? Bear in mind, they're qualified eh..no 'square peg, round hole just to make a money' kinda thing. You all are sending your children to school to become highly qualified just to shake their hands after it all and wish them the best in their endeavours?

I call BS.

You think this situation happens often? Nah jed. Most times you send the child to UWI to purposely get a degree in the field you have a big wuk in to ensure that they get a big job after.

Or even better, send the child to UWI to "just do something nah oh gosh, just get a degree" and take 4 years to get a bare pass degree in psychology and no minor. Then they get shoehorned into the HR department or something similar.


I agree, If somebody have a parent working in one of these companies they will ensure that their child does something pertaining in that field in order so that they can pull then into that company. In other words the recruitment process is reversed in that where other people would do their degree an then search for a job, they are just doing a degree with the intent that once they are finished they already have a work lined up.

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Postby JDM_23 » April 13th, 2019, 8:10 pm

I call BS.[/quote]I actually know of a very high ranking person in a certain oil company that will nit higher his highly qualified wife for professional reasons. Mind you, she meet and beat the requirements.
He is also a relative of mine. Can practically tell me show up for work monday. I never sent an application becausewe dont do it like that on this end. We get through on our own merit.[/quote]



I agree, I apply for many jobs but honestly I could know someone that may be working in that company but will never ask them for any assistance or to put in a good word for me, I just prefer to get things on my own and don't be dependent on anyone. I suppose that has to do with my values, but that's just the way I am.

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Postby zoom rader » April 13th, 2019, 9:04 pm

Rule one, never help anyone to get a job where you work.

If you do and they f-up it comes back to you.

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Postby Animal Pak » April 13th, 2019, 9:43 pm

Employee Referrals are an industry standard. That is just a fancy word for a link. Where I work you get a minimum of 2500 usd if your recommendation actually got the job. So it is encouraged. Either play the game or don’t. Just don’t complain that the game is rigged. Of course it is.

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Postby zoom rader » April 13th, 2019, 10:16 pm

Animal Pak wrote:Employee Referrals are an industry standard. That is just a fancy word for a link. Where I work you get a minimum of 2500 usd if your recommendation actually got the job. So it is encouraged. Either play the game or don’t. Just don’t complain that the game is rigged. Of course it is.
It happens in the UK aswell, but they need to have the qualifications and

The difference is in trini they hire idiots with less skill & qualifications

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Postby Kixy » July 26th, 2019, 6:03 pm

Apparently big change is coming. Jpsl, Nhtl, ent 2k, cnsea, denov...

Pros want sharing and more sharing, who have more info?

All i know is people gona go home soon although they say yuh money good...

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Postby Numb3r4 » July 26th, 2019, 7:21 pm

More layoffs you say....

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Postby rmrunner » July 26th, 2019, 7:27 pm

Saw they have vacancies on their site.

Also heard is a rebranding but a restructuring may be present.

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