Venezuela Government thread

[toyota2nr]

Dragon = Dragone

Sandals gone, now this deal looking iffy. Sh!tkicker whole PowerPoint presentation gone in the dustbin right dey yes...

If only he could go along with it would be good

[88sins]

no real shocker in this. the people of Venezuela have been suffering for far too long and have wanted to dispose of Maduro quite a while now. it was only a matter of time before someone came along with the balllllz required to remove him.
as to America's involvement via the CIA, I somewhat doubt it. tho the agency has a history of facilitating such things, the tactics they use are usually more direct.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Maduro gives US diplomats 72 hours to leave Venezuela

CNC3 - Venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro has cut off diplomatic relations with the United States, the biggest importer of Venezuelan oil, and said American diplomats had 72 hours to leave the country.

"Before the people and nations of the world, and as constitutional president. .... I've decided to break diplomatic and political relations with the imperialist U.S. government," Maduro told a crowd of red-shirted supporters gathered at the presidential palace.

"Don't trust the gringos. They don't have friends or loyalties. They only have interests, guts and the ambition to take Venezuela's oil, gas and gold."

Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido declared himself interim president in a defiant speech Wednesday before masses of anti-government demonstrators who took to the streets to demand President Nicolas Maduro's removal — a bold move that was immediately recognized by the Trump administration and a growing number of other Western nations.

President Donald Trump called on Maduro to resign and said the U.S. would use the "full weight" of its economic and diplomatic power to push for the restoration of Venezuela's democracy. Canada as well as Brazil, Colombia and several other Latin American nations followed suit in throwing their support behind Guaido.

"The people of Venezuela have courageously spoken out against Maduro and his regime and demanded freedom and the rule of law," Trump said in a statement.

[Melchizedek]

bacchanal start in we back yard

keep the updates rolling

[maj. tom]

so this means that they're going back home to make their own country a better place then?

Venezuelan's celebrate Juan Guaidó as interim president in Queen's Park Savannah, Trinidad

[pugboy]

Wonder if local psychic yesenia going back to support

[zoom rader]

Trinidadians would never do something like this

Yes they did in 1990

[sMASH]

not 'they' just a small subsection. the rest went and raid bata and hilo and what not.

[zoom rader]

not 'they' just a small subsection. the rest went and raid bata and hilo and what not.

Who de hell gonna snatch a bata dog?

[sMASH]

https://www.rt.com/news/449555-pompeo-u ... ifications
US refuses to with draw diplomats.
earlier release from russia foreign ministry says that this act of america is another in a line of interferring and interjecting into the affairs of other sovereign countries.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

So what gonna be the story with shitkickers gas deal

[sMASH]

tomorrow is a town hall meeting in palo seco. i posted post on fb for people to ask about that at the meeting.

but here this, the venezuela situation have moves occurring every hour... we could wake up in a totally differernt world tomorrow, depending on the contents of some tweets.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Awaits putin tweets

[hydroep]

...was now going to post about some of the things I'm seeing on social media, very concerning indeed...

[sMASH]

tomorrow is a town hall meeting in palo seco. i posted post on fb for people to ask about that at the meeting.

but here this, the venezuela situation have moves occurring every hour... we could wake up in a totally differernt world tomorrow, depending on the contents of some tweets.

wtf, cyar spelll. heAR

[shake d livin wake d dead]

...was now going to post about some of the things I'm seeing on social media, very concerning indeed...

Share links nuh

[hydroep]

^Run through Twitter #Venezuela and the @RT_com pages.

[sMASH]

i have an rss reader, widget business, on a second screen with bbc and rt updating frequently.

[Ben_spanna]

Al dem cute sexy Spanish goals can stay - I don’t mind them here,,, the others can proceed back home if they wish.

[l33t2]

Apparently 5 dead (possibly more) after today's protests.

Here's a map showing the international stance on Maduro Vs Guaido

[l33t2]

Al dem cute sexy Spanish goals can stay - I don’t mind them here,,, the others can proceed back home if they wish.

No one is leaving in a hurry, things still messy and will be for years even if the Chavez/Maduro regime falls

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

[De Dragon]

I thought we had arse lickers here but, Rubio, Cruz and them is a different level yes!

[The_Honourable]

Wow... was gone for the day. A lot happened. Meanwhile on RT media.

- Two people have reportedly been killed in on-going #protests in #Venezuela against President #Maduro. There are also reports that demonstrators set fire to a police station in the north of the country.


- The Trump administration declared on Wednesday that it will recognize Venezuela’s opposition leader Juan Guaido as the country’s rightful president, angering supporters of Nicolas Maduro, who won re-election in 2018. Is Venezuela on the brink of a coup, or will President Maduro be able to hold on to power against the forces of his opposition now getting a full throated backing from Washington?


- Author and Professor Steve Ellner joins Rick Sanchez to share his insights on the escalating political crisis in Venezuela, arguing that US history shows that the decision to confer legitimacy on any foreign government is essentially arbitrary. He reminds us that the US has a long record of stamping out progressive movements in Latin America and that Venezuela’s model poses a particular threat to Washington.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ interesting points there!

However

The elections in June 2018 where NM “won”, were called by Maduro’s Constitutional National Asembly (ANC) which he created, by mandate, not votes, to undercut the National Asembly (NA) which was voted for in 2015 by an overwhelming majority, such, that Maduro’s controlled electoral council (CNE) just could not deny.

The NA declared the June elections a fraud and the international community (OAS, US, Can, EU, etc. did not recognize them either.

However NM went ahead to be sworn in at his controlled Supreme Court (which is ilegal, as the Const of Vzla (CN) so states, and must be done at the NA). The NA and Inter. Comm. again said they would not and did not recognize him as president on Jan 10 2019.
The CN states that when there is no president, the president of the NA, becomes the president encharged until new election are called.

[hydroep]

Young: Trump can say what he wants, Venezuela remains sovereign state
Dareece Polo Created : 23 January 2019

Trinidad and Tobago will not interfere with the democratic process within Venezuela in spite of calls by US President Donald Trump to recognise Venezuela's Opposition leader Juan Guaido as the country's head of state.

Guaido swore himself in as the country's interim President on Wednesday as he called for an election.

During a media conference held on Wednesday afternoon, Young responded to questions from media as to Trinidad and Tobago's position.

He said he does not believe any country should interfere in the democratic affairs of another.

"At the end of the day, I think sovereign states should respect other sovereign states and that remains Trinidad and Tobago’s position. Our foreign policy is a very clear one of non-intervention. As the Prime Minister has said, we stand ready to assist in whatever way we can, including in any mediatory position that we may be able to play but we certainly don’t think one Government calling on another Government to fall is the right way to go about it."

He also said President Trump's call for other countries to see Guaido as the President as opposed to Nicolas Maduro will not change Trinidad's position.

"I too have seen a, I don’t know if it’s a tweet or if it’s an official position from the United States President, that’s his prerogative; he can say whatever he wants. At the end of the day, Venezuela as far as I am aware, remains a sovereign country."

Maduro has responded to Trump's decision to view Guaido as President, announcing that the country will now officially sever all ties with the US. American diplomats now have 72 hours to leave Venezuela.

The US has since refused to pull diplomats from the country and has threatened "appropriate action" if anyone is endangered.

http://www.looptt.com/content/young-trump-can-say-what-he-wants-venezuela-remains-sovereign-state

[l33t2]

Well, there goes out international image.

[The_Honourable]

Study Young batting for Maduro instead of his stepdaughter.

[l33t2]

The amount of ignorance in this thread is absolutely sickening.

No, this is not as simple as “USA acknowledged the opposition as president over Maduro”. By Venezuela’s constitution, Maduro is not legally the president anymore. In the case that Venezuela is going through right now the head of the National Assembly becomes the president, in this case it’s Guaido.

Why is this happening? Because Maduro’s government called for Constitutional Assembly to basically have a re-election and change the constitution to their view. In Venezuela the government does not have that power, the people do. Due to this illegality Maduro losses his presidency and Guaido will LEGALLY become the interim president..

[CarlosLopez1965]

Someone finally got it..

The amount of ignorance in this thread is absolutely sickening.

No, this is not as simple as “USA acknowledged the opposition as president over Maduro”. By Venezuela’s constitution, Maduro is not legally the president anymore. In the case that Venezuela is going through right now the head of the National Assembly becomes the president, in this case it’s Guaido.

Why is this happening? Because Maduro’s government called for Constitutional Assembly to basically have a re-election and change the constitution to their view. In Venezuela the government does not have that power, the people do. Due to this illegality Maduro losses his presidency and Guaido will LEGALLY become the interim president..