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TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby The_Honourable » November 10th, 2017, 3:07 pm

The Police Complaints Authority says this video of police executing a warrant circulating on social media was sent to them via their mobile app. The Authority says it is now looking the footage.

The video shows a police attempting to enter a woman's home with a warrant but the woman challenges the police to show that the warrant is actually for that address.


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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby MaxPower » November 10th, 2017, 3:31 pm

Steups...

Open the blasted gate and stfu with that annoying voice jeeez.

She needs to be beaten to a pulp to feel the wrath of the law..

I feel so sorry for those officers, they have to search that stink house...more than likely cockroach infested.

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby maxtech » November 10th, 2017, 3:33 pm

All them police, like she is drug dealer

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby Les Bain » November 10th, 2017, 4:00 pm

It's really disturbing if you don't know the full story.

Waiting to hear the full story.

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby moving » November 10th, 2017, 4:07 pm

it looks like the police knew that the warrant was incomplete..and they were trying to get away with it but she caught them in the act..

that said all of those police came to search your house because of murder, guns and ammunition.... she is either involved or linked to rel bachannal.

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby vaiostation » November 10th, 2017, 4:14 pm

maxtech wrote:All them police, like she is drug dealer

Ah time I see 15 police surround a man house because he didn't pay a traffic ticket...

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby maxtech » November 10th, 2017, 4:20 pm

All this country needs is for people to be treated like human beings. That's not what I seeing in that video. The mere fact that they didn't arrest her means she is not a criminal. They have no right braking the woman window.

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby hustla_ambition101 » November 10th, 2017, 4:43 pm

What abuse? There was a warrant signed by a magistrate, open d flicking door let them search and go about their business. A warrant allows for entry by whatever means necessary.

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby Average » November 10th, 2017, 5:58 pm

Normally I would think the usual thoughts about bacchanal like this but I think she is in the right here. All she asked was to see the document. Look at the hatred and dotish behavior of the gunta sorry officer who broke the window. Ah sure he bamsee does quint when he dealing with real guntas.

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Postby *$kїđž!™ » November 10th, 2017, 6:18 pm

These police need training....

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby megadoc1 » November 10th, 2017, 6:53 pm

all that police in my yard,and I beating up on whether they have address on warrant?
nah man,I opening up once I satisfied that it was police

saw some police breaking down a door today will post the lil vid I make in a while

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » November 10th, 2017, 10:40 pm

What ever happen to the million dollar hunjed plus page book which was written to deal with ttps??? Being used as sheit paper I guess...yeah meh english bad af

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Postby RedVEVO » November 10th, 2017, 10:42 pm

vaiostation wrote:
maxtech wrote:All them police, like she is drug dealer

Ah time I see 15 police surround a man house because he didn't pay a traffic ticket...


or maybe he pay didn't

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby RedVEVO » November 10th, 2017, 11:20 pm

*$kїđž!™ wrote:These police need training....




Yes plenty training ..

But how much training when you have 2 CXC ?

It's PP Gov't who gave Police that " gunta power " like we living in 1950 South Africa .

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby rollingstock » November 10th, 2017, 11:41 pm

Ignorant puzzies commenting again.

Hint, there are warrants that don't have an address.

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby janfar » November 11th, 2017, 12:10 am

Stock... Where can I find that legislation... Need it to shut down some ignorant f#%ks

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby RedVEVO » November 11th, 2017, 12:16 am

rollingstock wrote:Ignorant puzzies commenting again.

Hint, there are warrants that don't have an address.


So if you do not have an address where you searching ?

Primary School certificate and a big stick ( baton ) is not an excuse :D

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby rollingstock » November 11th, 2017, 2:14 am

janfar wrote:Stock... Where can I find that legislation... Need it to shut down some ignorant f#%ks


It's not a legislation.
A warrant of apprehension is issued for a person, it allows the police to enter any premises to apprehend the person(s) named therein. By any means necessary.

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Postby hong kong phooey » November 11th, 2017, 2:34 am

http://guardian.co.tt/news/2017-11-10/c ... d-lawfully
A video on social media of police officers breaking the window of a woman’s Princes Town home to search for arms and ammunition has prompted both praise and condemnation for the officers.

In the video, the police were heard asking the woman to open her house but she refused saying she wanted to see the warrant. The police in the video identified themselves and asked the woman to give them access. She again refused and complained that the police did not immediately identify themselves.

In an interview with the T&T Guardian on Thursday, the home owner admitted to seeing the warrant, saying, “It was pushed in my face and it did not have an address.

“This is why I did not open the house for them. They smashed the window panes and used a bucket to climb through the window and into the house. I kept telling them that the person they were looking for did not live there. They break the wardrobe and cut the burglar proof.”

However, Southern Division Snr Supt Zamsheed Mohammed said once a warrant is signed by a competent authority police can enter premises and execute searches.

“A search warrant or an arrest warrant gives the police lawful authority to enter the premises by force if necessary, but that force should be reasonable, taking into consideration all the circumstances present at the time. The warrant gives the police that authority,” Mohammed reiterated, adding the warrant was supposed to have an address.

Saying he saw the Whatsapp video, Mohammed said once a home-owner denies entry upon seeing a warrant, police can enter the house using force. He noted, however, that any citizen who thinks the police acted unprofessionally or unjustly could take legal recourse or contact the Police Complaints Authority.

Mohammed said he had not received any official complaint from the home owner, but having seen the video he will appoint an investigator to conduct investigations into the incident.

“We are also asking the public to be cooperative so that police could carry out their duties and functions to ensure that all of T&T is safe,” Mohammed added.

Also contacted yesterday, TTPS communication manager Ellen Lewis confirmed Mohammed’s account of the process involving search warrants. She also reminded the public it is an offence to obstruct officers in the lawful execution of their duties.

He commended his team for the recent crime sweep, saying 10 firearms were recovered last week, nine the week before and six seized over the past seven days.

“This brings a total of 159 firearms for this year, the highest number recorded in all police divisions in the country. This speaks volumes about the amount of firearms on the streets and we will urge all officers to diligently continue their efforts within the parameters of the law,” Mohammed said.

Meanwhile, PCA head David West also said home-owners should cooperate with the police once a search warrant is presented. He said if entry is denied, the police have the authority to enter the property.






Rolling stock i ain't disagreeing with you but to me seem they over step their boundaries. AgaIN each can interpret the laws differently
from the law the police officer is supposed to read the warrant to the person the woman clearly stated she would open the door if the warrant was read .
she kept asking to see the address of the premises.
these things are there to protect the public . what if bandits come and call out police ah have a warrant and you open up your door .
what if the police was in the wrong house
After the chinese business man was robbed by the police last year load came out about the rights of citizens

http://guardian.co.tt/news/2015-12-14/p ... ch-seizure

Generally, a search warrant is necessary for entry and search of anyone’s private premises. A search warrant may be issued to enter a building or any place to search for evidence in relation to any summary offence, as outlined in section 41 of the Summary Courts Act Chap. 4:20. The only legal way to search one’s premises, other than in effecting an arrest, is with a search warrant or the express permission of the owner.

Where the question of effecting an arrest arises, an officer may enter premises without a warrant
a) to prevent a murder
b) to arrest an offender who was followed into the premises
c) to prevent the commission of a crime, and
d) to follow an offender running away from an officer

Issuing of a search warrant
A magistrate or judge issues a search warrant once a police officer satisfies the magistrate or judge that he has reasonable cause to suspect that grounds exist to justify the issue of the warrant. These grounds must be sworn on oath. There is no need to first lay a charge, but evidence obtained from the search may then be used to justify the charge.

Execution of a search warrant
A search warrant may be addressed to any police officer. If a specific officer is named, he alone can enforce the warrant. Search warrants may be executed at any time on any day of the week. A police officer can even break down the outer door of the premises to execute the warrant, if a demand for entry has been refused.

Usually, a search warrant is executed in the presence of the occupier or, if he is absent, in the presence of any adult on the premises. The police will read the warrant to the person and after the search, the officer should endorse on the back of the warrant what was found and seized, the name of the person present and the time and date.

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby RedVEVO » November 11th, 2017, 2:52 am

^^^^

Again these Police "A Team" members have no training or even simple education .
They ALL need anger management & psychological evaluation .

It is just cuss and harass and abuse especially with women.

Why you think 99% of Trini do not trust the TTPS ?

Every situation is different .

In this video the woman is reasonable .

So why the "mash up" house and threaten etc. ?

Why not calmly read the warrant and explain to the woman ?

SAUTT was a highly educated Police Team . But no more with present administration .

We take 2 steps forward ( PCA ) and 10 steps backwards (TTPS)

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby streetbeastINC. » November 11th, 2017, 4:51 am

The thing is there are categories of state officers that has warrants attached permanently to their job title and enter premises sometimes without even having reason to produce the same.......ttps at times ....must at least try proper communication.depending on the situation of course .if that dont work full tactics

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby sMASH » November 11th, 2017, 5:24 am

3cxc crew bumbles again.

They should learn to follow proper procedure in the execution of their duties.

If the police are delinquent in adherence to rules and regulations, why should a normal citizen become the shining example of compliance.

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Postby hong kong phooey » November 11th, 2017, 6:30 am

that another thing she stated in the video
there were all over the house but they saying she have to accompany then in the search
this is why when police going on raids they need to have body cameras to prove they did not plant something

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby Chimera » November 11th, 2017, 6:55 am

Rolling stock are there warrants that don't have a name or address ? Allowing officers to write in both ?

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » November 11th, 2017, 7:12 am

honestly Idk why all this beat up...ttps could do wtf they want in this country and get away with it....not one fck coming outa this incident...men does transport weed and get bail, suspended with pay as well

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Postby zoom rader » November 11th, 2017, 7:19 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:honestly Idk why all this beat up...ttps could do wtf they want in this country and get away with it....not one fck coming outa this incident...men does transport weed and get bail, suspended with pay as well

It require ppl taking them to court and winning their cases. It will take a few good cases for any change to happen.

It's the same when Patrick Manning and his then PNM government lost alot discrimination cases. Those cases changed the way the PNM government conducts itself now.
They dear not make those mistakes again as ppl are quick to file cases.

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby Chimera » November 11th, 2017, 7:41 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:honestly Idk why all this beat up...ttps could do wtf they want in this country and get away with it....not one fck coming outa this incident...men does transport weed and get bail, suspended with pay as well

That's not this country alone. Look at all the people getting killed by police all over the usa.

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby megadoc1 » November 11th, 2017, 9:33 am

rollingstock wrote:
janfar wrote:Stock... Where can I find that legislation... Need it to shut down some ignorant f#%ks


It's not a legislation.
A warrant of apprehension is issued for a person, it allows the police to enter any premises to apprehend the person(s) named therein. By any means necessary.

Lol understand,imagine if they got the correct address but the man was operating across the street,people not easy nah

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby rollingstock » November 11th, 2017, 11:58 am

From the comments here I'll just hush my ass and leave some of you in your ignorance.
There are other warrants beside a search warrant. Pick sense from nonsense or go fcuk yourself, makes no difference to me.

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Re: TTPS - Abuse while executing a warrant?

Postby Rovin » November 11th, 2017, 12:03 pm

for any kind of warrant does it have to have d address on it or just a person name will do ? ......

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