Lance Corporal Marcus Gay who was shot dead while on duty

[Miktay]

Has nothing to do with war mongering and if by culture you mean "carnival" then you can keep that.

How will it not benefit. Clearly what we doing right now isn't working so it's time for a review and possibly a reset button. All of this is part of progress

No. Cval has nothing to do with warmongering. It's actually the opposite. Cval started as a movement against the establishment.

Cval iza wonderful thing...but not without its shortcomings.

For e.g. How do u get a largely volunteer populace to produce thiz?

[Redress10]

Carnival is wonderful..."Carnival culture" in every aspect of our lives isn't.

Developed nations have an ingrained culture of excellence instilled in their population and that comes from the need to compete and stay ahead of every other developed nation for economic advantages.

You do realise that most scientific research in developed nations comes from the military right. Everything from Car engines to performance enhancement drugs were created funded for a military purpose and then made commercially available for the wider population. The military plays a huge part in the development of nation. It's not just about wars and war mongering etc. War and conflict is a part of life. Deal with it.

[Redress10]

On September 26, 2001, members of the Special Activities Division, led by Gary Schroen, were the first U.S. forces inserted into Afghanistan. The Northern Afghanistan Liaison Team entered the country nine days after the 9/11 attack[91][92] and linked up with the Northern Alliance as part of Task Force Dagger.[93]

They provided the Northern Alliance with resources including cash to buy weapons and prepared for the arrival of USSOCOM forces. The plan for the invasion of Afghanistan was developed by the CIA, the first time in United States history that such a large-scale military operation was planned by the CIA.[94] SAD, U.S. Army Special Forces, and the Northern Alliance combined to overthrow the Taliban in Afghanistan with minimal loss of U.S. lives. They did this without the use of conventional U.S. military ground forces.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_A ... fghanistan

So 9 days after 9/11, the CIA deployed a team with billions in cash with the mission to buy up local support in preparation for the invasion. That is intelligence at work. These people are trained to disarm a nuclear weapon if they come across one. These are not normal people.

We still don't know what really happen with the jail break from two years ago.

We aint ready yet.

[info-maniac]

Many are not aware that the TTR has an "intelligence" unit . Perhaps he was attached to the same . I know a standing military officer attached to the unit who sports dreadlocks and is covered in tattoos

I worked in a department right next to the intelligence department of the army for a period of approximately two years. I myself being a soldier didn't know of its existence until my transfer to the location where they were based.

It was shocking to me to a soldier with dreadlocks down to his knees in length, never seen any with tattoos in my time though.

I left in 2006, coincidentally, the same day as the one with the long locks that I just mentioned.

[Redress10]

A person with dreadlocks down to their knees in length doesn't "blend in". Unless they going under cover to break up some nuts selling ring. Those feature are wayyy too distinct and easy to identify...LOL

[Miktay]

Carnival is wonderful..."Carnival culture" in every aspect of our lives isn't.

Developed nations have an ingrained culture of excellence instilled in their population and that comes from the need to compete and stay ahead of every other developed nation for economic advantages.

You do realise that most scientific research in developed nations comes from the military right. Everything from Car engines to performance enhancement drugs were created funded for a military purpose and then made commercially available for the wider population. The military plays a huge part in the development of nation. It's not just about wars and war mongering etc. War and conflict is a part of life. Deal with it.

We dealing with it pardner.

T&T has no Empire building agenda that requires the use of coercion on an industrial scale.

Other nations dont have a military agenda either. Costa Rica...Iceland etc. So iz not like we are alone in thiz thinking.

Some scientific progress iza result of a military focus. But that comes at a huge cost. If you want to develop science...then focus on developing science. Don't focus on developing military applications and hope u achieve scientific progress.