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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby viedcht » April 20th, 2017, 6:18 pm

Imbutt find like the speed gun them eh bringing in the quota

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby aaron17 » April 20th, 2017, 7:02 pm

We don't even have proper services( health,police etc) when the country was not in a recession and ppl losing jobs left, right and center, prices going up in everything etc.How we going to pay that?Its going to be hard for everyone.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » April 20th, 2017, 7:13 pm

no matter the use, the premise must be valid.. other wise, they wouldn't put a stamp on to authenticate disabilty papers for people who beg for alms.

assessing ur house is not a valid way to extract a tax.
the house was built over years, some times generations, it wasnt over the span of one year, or even a few years. yet money will be extorted each year because of the accumulated efforts of the family towards the family home.
the government in no way contributed to the value of the house.
any value they contributed would be because of the situation, so charge tax on the situation of the property. not the site.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby drchaos » April 20th, 2017, 8:09 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:
"The taxes are primarily for the enjoyment of other benefits such as the main road to your road, schools, hospitals and the like"

Justification for property tax in T&T ... allu go make me buss meh belly laughing.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby pugboy » April 20th, 2017, 8:26 pm

Apart from govt needing money to tief and pay financiers
Most of the money needed is to pay public servant debt
I.e. Watson, ancil and they crew of slow workers

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby src1983 » April 20th, 2017, 8:53 pm

dude2014 wrote:
car wrote:
drchaos wrote:Called the hotline ... As I have a empty lot of residential land. So I asked how the rental value of a piece of land with bush on itwould be calculated and he said it would be calculated from value of the land itself.

My land is worth the same as the guy next to me with a house on the land ... So I paying tax on land and grass while the guy next to me paying the same amount of tax on his house and land?

They have reduced rate for industrial without a building ... why not residential without a building as well?


The guy with the house suppose to be paying more. Something aint right there. That is good grounds to refuse to pay.


Is it you dont understand your post? Or is FREE FOR ALL SARCASM DAY? Empty land pays less any day. The guy with house and land will pay more ......................

There are tuners who want viable arguments to support or oppose the TAX.

You alone lives on a road and it will take 2m to develop. You are not expected to pay all that in tax so it can be developed. The taxes are primarily for the enjoyment of other benefits such as the main road to your road, schools, hospitals and the like. This may also be taken into account as person living in rural areas will have lower rental values due to the proximity to services and/or unavailability of such services.

A good example is WASA, check the schedule behind your WASA Bill. You may have to pay up even if you do not have a connection on DE EMPTY LAND .......

Property Tax is not only about house, out house or toilet, land and who getting/not getting old age pension as an excuse to not pay taxes. It is about maintaining records, provision of necessities and yes the old age pension, according to Aristotle who lived many years ago. We respect his wisdom, but draw the line when it comes to property taxes? Some of this tax will be pooled to pay old age pension. Do not contribute, live for free and let somebody else pay for it. Best of Luck with that one ....

THERE IS TALK ELSEWHERE ABOUT RAISING THE PENSIONABLE AGE FROM 65 YEARS TO 70 YEARS. THINK ABOUT THAT

Google the Philosophy of tax, property tax and other tax. Compare with other systems and then get up and clamour for Equity, Equality and justice ...........



We paid $1 billion for a stadium, we paid $1 million to move a truck, we paid $7 billion for a highway etc.

Maybe they should look at dealing with how bad they spend money rather than tax the middle class citizens who barely scraping by. Why should I pay more tax for you to spend badly?

Average working dude getting hit with

25% PAYE
NIS
Health Surcharge
3% Property Tax
20%-30% Duty
12.5% VAT

When he goes to the hospital he have to sit and wait for beds, plus go buy medicine cause it have none, he have to drive slow cause his road is bad and shocks expensive. He has to install burglar proof and cameras on all his doors and windows to keep out crime

Yet Gollum, pays no tax beside VAT, he can buy a Porsche every three years NO vat and duty, he needs a simple majority to increase his salary*

This tax is just the easy way out Government is run by a set of meows on both sides, I honestly hope they get fat and die fast so our generation could take over

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » April 20th, 2017, 8:55 pm

zoom rader wrote:Don't know why tuners complaining . I warned you all about PNM, so take the BBC


Nobody is saying you are wrong but the UNC was in power for 5 years they could have implemented a modern property tax and charged us some more but keep it reasonable.

They refused to do this because they were hoping the PNM would return and rape us with this tax so we would go running back to the Cabal.

I can guarantee you 100% I did NOT vote for the PNM I even backed the UNC up till election night of 2015 and I got a LOT of jamming on tuner for doing so way more than you, well I eh know about more than you cause they actually banned you, but in the end that was a lost cause because the UNC party is a failure, it is disorganized and in disarray with waaay too much allegations of corruption. And doh play like they didn't make mass with that box drain racket.

UNC became a joke after Pandey left. For all the people who skin they ass about Pandey over the years, I hope they like what they get now. Cause kamla did a real good job ent?

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby src1983 » April 20th, 2017, 8:59 pm

zoom rader wrote:Don't know why tuners complaining . I warned you all about PNM, so take the BBC


The Cabal only looks out for their friends and cannot make hard decisions, Why your "we will rise leader" didn't reform the constitution and implement PM for only two terms as she went in?

Is cause of voters like you all we in this mess

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby pugboy » April 20th, 2017, 8:59 pm

padna,

it was over $6m to move the truck............

src1983 wrote:We paid $1 billion for a stadium, we paid $1 million to move a truck, we paid $7 billion for a highway etc.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » April 20th, 2017, 8:59 pm

I hear this PNM man call 90.5FM just now and he say how the Property Tax is a good thing because it will give us a sense of belonging.

These fcuking people serious boy?

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby src1983 » April 20th, 2017, 9:00 pm

pugboy wrote:padna,

it was over $6m to move the truck............

src1983 wrote:We paid $1 billion for a stadium, we paid $1 million to move a truck, we paid $7 billion for a highway etc.


WTF!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sinister_14 » April 20th, 2017, 9:04 pm

Im totally against this property tax..why do we need to pay this..cause the country in a bad state and dey need additional income...to run the country...are these ppl serious..PEOPLE OF TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO...WAKE THE FACK UP PLZ...our country is in mess WHY??? CAUSE ALL THE IDIOTS THAT WE PLACED IN POWER BOTH PNM AND UNC...mismanaged our funds and stole from us and now we the ppl have to suffer....these are the ppl who need to be held accountable for this...we need to investigate all these minister and charge them and seized all there assets...we the ppl dont need to put up with this we need to get all the monies that was stolen back....they dont need to come up with all this crap and tax us for their mismanagement of the country....

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » April 20th, 2017, 9:09 pm

UNC and PNM thief out the money from this country, now the country eh have money so they looking to thief it from us now, if this was a first world country where people were held accountable then no scene you sure your roads would be fixed in your community you would have side walks etc. Right now if you see the payvement in St Helena the manhole covers missing or mash up for YEARS because some jackass park up his truck on it.

Want to know how they fixed it? they never fixed it, villagers put a fcking bamboo in the hole with a red flag tied to it so nobody would fall to their doom, the other night a guy got stabbed by walking into the bamboo because T&TEC stop fixing lamp pole lights.

And just imagine when they take this property tax it will remain exactly like this, and the money you giving these people will end up in the pockets of some contractor. And you will fall through more missing manhole covers.

And this PNM man who does call 90.5FM every night could say with a straight face that Property Tax is good because it does give he a sense of belonging?
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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby drchaos » April 20th, 2017, 9:10 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:I hear this PNM man call 90.5FM just now and he say how the Property Tax is a good thing because it will give us a sense of belonging.

These fcuking people serious boy?


Wanna bet that scant eh paying no fracking property tax cause he squatting in the fackin beetum.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » April 20th, 2017, 9:15 pm

$2m for a flag.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » April 20th, 2017, 9:35 pm

This PNM woman from Diego Martin who does call 90.5fm every night, she now call and say how the property tax is a good thing because people in she area renting part of their house and making money and not paying their fair share of taxes

So WTF does that have to do with me or anybody else? if you crazy enough to rent half of your house to a stranger then that is your business go charge them tax. You can't seriously be telling me that because somebody in Diego Martin is renting half his house to a stranger and not paying proper tax that me living in Piarco somehow have to pay for he dotishness.

These fckuing people really serious about defending this property tax?

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby viedcht » April 20th, 2017, 9:40 pm

This place getting more and more depressing

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » April 20th, 2017, 9:43 pm

So wait I have 1.25 acres of land here, I plant 160 coconut trees, these trees will take 6 years to start producing.

How then is it justified for me to be paying this property tax? is not like I gonna be making money for the next 6 years that is dead money for the next 6 years and I continuously have to be spending money in gas to wacker the grass and chemicals to spray the land, in fertilizer twice a year for 160 plants etc so I now have to go and pay property tax ontop of dead money?

And what about the disease that killing the plants the red ring and LY? so you losing trees every year and you still have to pay this same tax? and what measures has the government taken to combat this disease that they would justify taxing a coconut plantation?

So people who catching they nen en in long term Agriculture crops come like ass now? bess you sell out your land now?

Nah Man PNM fail BIG TIME here. As in Bigly!!!
You hadda be a real cacahole to defend this Tax

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby drchaos » April 20th, 2017, 10:04 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:This PNM woman from Diego Martin who does call 90.5fm every night, she now call and say how the property tax is a good thing because people in she area renting part of their house and making money and not paying their fair share of taxes

So WTF does that have to do with me or anybody else? if you crazy enough to rent half of your house to a stranger then that is your business go charge them tax. You can't seriously be telling me that because somebody in Diego Martin is renting half his house to a stranger and not paying proper tax that me living in Piarco somehow have to pay for he dotishness.

These fckuing people really serious about defending this property tax?


These are paid PNM callers to show support for the tax. Both parties use these tactics.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » April 20th, 2017, 10:07 pm

^ Yeah has to be cause I does hear them on other radio stations also.
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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby pugboy » April 20th, 2017, 10:09 pm

Like u suffer from typical Trini short memory.

src1983 wrote:
pugboy wrote:padna,

it was over $6m to move the truck............

src1983 wrote:We paid $1 billion for a stadium, we paid $1 million to move a truck, we paid $7 billion for a highway etc.


WTF!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » April 20th, 2017, 10:14 pm

What happens if we do not pay this tax?

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby pugboy » April 20th, 2017, 10:20 pm

They will likely put legislation to allow seizure of property to be auctioned to their party hacks.

As it is right now, I think Wasa is the only authority which can lay claim for unpaid bills.
When you buy or sell a property, the Wasa clearance is the only one required.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » April 20th, 2017, 10:41 pm

WOW, unbelievable!!!

But I have a hard time believing they are going into the Beetham and taking away a house there.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » April 21st, 2017, 1:07 am

The time is 1:04 AM in the morning and I sitting here still studying what this PNM man said tonight.

This PNM man say property tax is a good thing because it gives us a sense of belonging and that money will go towards fixing our community roads and payvements. And yet when we had a oil boom we still couldn't get them to replace the manhole covers for the payvements to stop pedestrians from falling to their doom.

And this man say when we pay this tax they go fix the payvements and roads for we. That is what this man said on the radio, god as my witness. It was almost like that statement came from Kim Jong Un or something.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby aaron17 » April 21st, 2017, 5:17 am

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:The time is 1:04 AM in the morning and I sitting here still studying what this PNM man said tonight.

This PNM man say property tax is a good thing because it gives us a sense of belonging and that money will go towards fixing our community roads and payvements. And yet when we had a oil boom we still couldn't get them to replace the manhole covers for the payvements to stop pedestrians from falling to their doom.

And this man say when we pay this tax they go fix the payvements and roads for we. That is what this man said on the radio, god as my witness. It was almost like that statement came from Kim Jong Un or something.

I wonder why he didn't say box drain too.

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Postby aaron17 » April 21st, 2017, 5:20 am

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:WOW, unbelievable!!!

But I have a hard time believing they are going into the Beetham and taking away a house there.

This!
Any hard evidence of ppl asking this question to the gov't and getting a reply?Should be equality to all.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby aaron17 » April 21st, 2017, 5:28 am

If evaluators have to come and evaluate the property etc.. the criminal elements can pretend to be them coming in ur home!You have to be carefull.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby dude2014 » April 21st, 2017, 7:21 am

To equate paying property tax because things bad is to say do not pay when things good? Live for free? There are places where there are no Pr Tx but you do not live free.

If the place getting depressing, there is always the option to go St. Anns, jump in a lake or go Siberia. I know, sorry, it not very encouraging.

Billions spent badly, Yes but are you willing to take they A@se to court, protest, march?

I will be paying mine. I will be making representation on this being fair.

By the way, is their a fine for not filling the return baing published in the papers?

What is the story about giving dem a picture of yuh bedroom ...................... Perverted lot I say .........

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » April 21st, 2017, 7:32 am

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:What happens if we do not pay this tax?


pugboy wrote:They will likely put legislation to allow seizure of property to be auctioned to their party hacks.

As it is right now, I think Wasa is the only authority which can lay claim for unpaid bills.
When you buy or sell a property, the Wasa clearance is the only one required.




Property Tax Act 2009

Warrant for forfeiture

41. (1) Where any tax or any part thereof due in respect of
any land remains in arrears and unpaid for the period of five years
from the day when it became due and payable, the President may,
by warrant under his hand, reciting that a sum specified in such
warrant, due on account of the tax and for five years in such
warrant, is and has for the full period of five years been in arrears
and unpaid, order that such lands be forfeited to the State, and
immediately upon the registration of such warrant as hereinafter
provided, such land shall be forfeited, and shall vest in the State,
in absolute dominion, free and discharged from all rights, estates,
interests, equities and claims of any other person.
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