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Fidel Castro is no more

Postby hong kong phooey » November 26th, 2016, 4:25 am

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/26/ameri ... index.html

CNN)Fidel Castro, the Cuban despot who famously proclaimed after his arrest in a failed coup attempt that history would absolve him, has died aged 90.

Castro's brother, Raul, announced his death on Cuban TV.
At the end, an elderly and infirm Castro was a whisper of the Marxist firebrand whose iron will and passionate determination bent the arc of destiny.
"There are few individuals in the 20th century who had a more profound impact on a single country than Fidel Castro had in Cuba," Robert Pastor, a former national security adviser for President Jimmy Carter in the 1970s, told CNN in 2012.
"He reshaped Cuba in his image, for both bad and good," said Pastor, who died in 2014. "Cuba will be a different place because he lived and he died."

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby eliteauto » November 26th, 2016, 7:53 am

R.I.P. I hope to visit Cuba soon

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby baigan » November 26th, 2016, 8:14 am

Good riddance...
Some of my old Cuban classmates in Miami were celebrating all night

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » November 26th, 2016, 9:56 am

R.I.P fidel

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby nick639v2 » November 26th, 2016, 9:58 am

eliteauto wrote:R.I.P. I hope to visit Cuba soon


Same here. Since the episode of top gear there it looked very nice

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby Dizzy28 » November 26th, 2016, 1:30 pm

To some a revolutionary to others a despot!!! He was a history maker nonetheless.

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby TriP » November 26th, 2016, 6:17 pm

I wanna let all Africans and black people in general know the truth.

There is no one single foreign leader in this world who have done so much for our continent like Fidel Castro.

Castro single handedly helped Africa fight colonialism by donating both soldiers and medical doctors to help not just one country but over dozen countries in Africa, from Congo to Cape verde, from Angola to South Africa.

Do not buy into the western media labelling him as a dictator, this man has done way way much more that those who are pretending to be our friends and allies but only here to fill their pockets.

Same western media and western governments listed Mandela as a terrorists until 2004, those same governments supported apartheid in SA and to small extent Namibia.

Let's pay our respect to Castro because the man did right by us and we are forever grateful.

Also, under Castro, Cuba is the only western hemisphere country to treat it's black citizens with dignity and equality, with many Afro-cubans becoming some of the world's best doctors

From Africlandpost

R.I.P

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby Nissan12 » November 26th, 2016, 6:43 pm

baigan wrote:Good riddance...
Some of my old Cuban classmates in Miami were celebrating all night


People who probably have no clue about what it is like to live in Cuba. Think they'll go back to the land of their parents or grandparents and leave Trump's America? My money is on no... Some people buy into an ideology without knowing why.

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby baigan » November 26th, 2016, 7:15 pm

Nissan12 wrote:
baigan wrote:Good riddance...
Some of my old Cuban classmates in Miami were celebrating all night


People who probably have no clue about what it is like to live in Cuba. Think they'll go back to the land of their parents or grandparents and leave Trump's America? My money is on no... Some people buy into an ideology without knowing why.

Nope they're not going back lol, Cuba won't change overnight, but at least they can celebrate for a day they've long awaited. Some were born and raised in America so those won't know what it's like to live in Cuba, but a lot of my old classmates were born and raised in Cuba and escaped. They're not 'buying into an ideology without knowing why' A lot of them had family members, grandparents etc killed/jailed for speaking out...and had parents living in poverty working for $25 a month, unable to live the comfortable lives we currently take for granted...they moved to Miami, put their skills at work and are living wonderful lives now

Castro did do some good things, I admit, but a lot of bad...

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby Nissan12 » November 26th, 2016, 7:26 pm

Agreed, not in it can't know the feeling. Difficult, however, for me to understand the need to celebrate when someone dies...

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » November 26th, 2016, 7:52 pm

Nissan12 wrote:
baigan wrote:Good riddance...
Some of my old Cuban classmates in Miami were celebrating all night


People who probably have no clue about what it is like to live in Cuba. Think they'll go back to the land of their parents or grandparents and leave Trump's America? My money is on no... Some people buy into an ideology without knowing why.


People is all talk many lie to themselves and convince themselves that places like Cuba and Venezuela are the perfect model for the world to follow. Even though many of these places are often more of a living latrine than anything else.

I remember reading about a doctor in Cuba he was jailed for accepting a free bicycle tire from a patient who was so happy to have been back to full health and have received such good service from the doctor.

Cuba is as 3rd world as it will ever get and a reminder of the dangers of communism and dictatorship it chokes human imagination, human potential and human greatness. The values enshrined in the US constitution is what has enabled it to become the super power of the world aswell as the envy of the world, it is what has allowed American culture to enrich the world more than anyother in human history. So much that not even Great Britain can ever dream of catching up.

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby baigan » November 26th, 2016, 8:07 pm

Nissan12 wrote:Agreed, not in it can't know the feeling. Difficult, however, for me to understand the need to celebrate when someone dies...

Yeah, it's a little tasteless that they're celebrating his death so intensely lol
But after what they've been through I'd say let them celebrate

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » November 26th, 2016, 8:13 pm

baigan wrote:
Nissan12 wrote:Agreed, not in it can't know the feeling. Difficult, however, for me to understand the need to celebrate when someone dies...

Yeah, it's a little tasteless that they're celebrating his death so intensely lol
But after what they've been through I'd say let them celebrate


The voice of the people is the voice of god. The fact that Castro's death is being so widely celebrated speaks volume of the kind of person he actually was. The liberals who want the world to follow the perfect Venezuela model will tell you its all "western propaganda" and Castro was ah good boy, but don't fall for it.

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby arakaras » November 26th, 2016, 8:23 pm

Isn't the fact that Cuba is the way it is partly to blame on the unnecessary US embargo? Year after year there is a none binding vote at the UN to lift the embargo yet the US refuses. There was hope this year with the announcement by Obama but now Trump plans on reversing it.

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby arakaras » November 26th, 2016, 8:28 pm

I don't support dictatorship but be very careful about putting the US on a pedestal. They have done really bad things in the name of democracy.

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » November 26th, 2016, 9:00 pm

^ Yes and Castro had the opportunity of solving that completely, turning Cuba into a democratic country and becoming an ally of the USA. It was very easy to negotiate with the USA but Cuba wanted to kiss up to the Russians and that is what they get. Do not blame the US, they did everything in their power to end tyranny in the Western World and free Europe of Communism.

Cuba is the way it is today because of people like Castro let us never forget that. Egotistical, ignorant and stupid dictators. There is a reason the Soviet Union Collapsed and America was left the world's only remaining super power it is because their failed communist model does not work. Time and time again capitalism has proven to be the most successful model ever invented from the invention of the air plane to the latest most advanced microchip from Intel and Apple, capitalism enables competitiveness which drives human potential and human greatness.

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby Nissan12 » November 26th, 2016, 9:30 pm

And how do we explain China? Not innovative by the standards you mentioned above, but they made Germany the richest European country by buying state of the art machinery to copy other's products and also make for on contract (Foxconn the example).
And yet for all their Confucian Centres around the world and dollar diplomacy, they are brutally repressing Mongolia and Tibet.
They epitomise the golden rule - who has the gold, makes the rules...
And ISIS, in any of its 'provinces' won't touch them with a 40' pole as the Chinese will wipe them out.
As an aside, how did you like your boy Trump being hailed (or is it heiled?) recently by white supremacists? They are living in the last century. The Chinese took over the world while they were plotting in the woods

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » November 26th, 2016, 9:56 pm

Anything China innovates is trash and they mostly copy rather than innovate. They are famous for stealing American and European intellectual property rather than innovating anything. Trump has spoken in great details about the horrors the Chinese are unleashing and doing whatever they want as the democrats stand idle by. You realize his whole campaign was based on everything you just said right? As for KKK who are praising Trump, he has already condemned them so I not sure what more he can do. All I can tell you padner is not every conservative is a Nazi, not every conservative is Hitler. Keith Rowley is a conservative does this mean Rowley = Hitler?

Well to be honest I have a unc neighbor who actually believes Rowley = Hitler he even drink gramoxone when PNM won last year.

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby dude2014 » November 26th, 2016, 10:39 pm

Cannot say I am a fan of fidel Castro but one has to hail him.
Remember Obama apologising for invading Libya.
Failed wars in Veitnam and Cambodia.
Russia and USA was friends during world war two.
The Chinese and USA was friends since the building of the railways.

The problem is history will live on to tell its own tale, how long will we .........

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby RBphoto » November 26th, 2016, 10:48 pm

Glad de fcker dead.

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby rookiespeed » November 26th, 2016, 11:15 pm

Ignorance is blist. He who stands for nothing, falls for everything. History will indeed absolve him. May he Rest In Peace.

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby rollingstock » November 26th, 2016, 11:42 pm

Fack he. Murdering kant.
I don't celebrate his kind.

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby Dizzy28 » November 27th, 2016, 1:03 am

What is blist??

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby Daran » November 27th, 2016, 5:54 am

Anyone who hails Castro is an ignorant fool. Talk to any Cuban and you'd realize how the mans regime only sought their own interest rather than the people.

Cuba is a beautiful country with very nice people (and some sexy chicas) and Castro never allowed it to flourish due to his stubborn or selfish reasons.

Those who praise his anti western and colonialism do not realize the ends don't justify the means. Being anti colonial is fine and understandable, but to throw it out and oppress and suffer your people is throwing out one evil for that's even greater.

Never forget that fools like Castro and Che Guevara were oppressors themselves, killing any opposition and never trying to empower the citizens.

But go ahead and glorify them on your tshirts.

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby Dizzy28 » November 27th, 2016, 8:50 am

To the poor his brand of socialism is good. To the more educated and entrepreneurship it is a curse.

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby Mr. Tony Stark » November 28th, 2016, 10:49 pm

Just remember to go out there tomorrow, find a play whe machine and play 4!

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby Dizzy28 » November 29th, 2016, 9:10 am

I think both Castros should be congratulated for winning every Cuban election since 1959!!

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby moving » November 29th, 2016, 9:36 am

i wonder how many people even went to cuba or even understand the history of Castro and Cuba.

I not saying what he did was right, they "might" of been a better way
but look at how he changed Cuba..... the road was tough for his regime, they had trade embargoes placed on them and were under constant threat from the USA.. but he ousted an American dictator and transformed Cuba from the whorehouse of the Americas to one of the most educated, safe and underrated countries in the world.

dont believe everything the western media tells u... cuba is not that bad.. its actually a really beautiful place.. they have many things in place that we can all learn from.

food so cheap they basically giving it away free
healthcare one of the best in the world
crime ... yea right..there is a policeman on every corner
its true gem is its culture.. party on every corner..live music and happiness.

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby Country_Bookie » November 29th, 2016, 9:48 am

^right you are son. Those cubans are so happy they die in the hundreds every year trying to flee the paradise that is Cuba on by jumping on anything that floats.

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Re: Fidel Castro is no more

Postby Dizzy28 » November 29th, 2016, 9:50 am

Country_Bookie wrote:^right you are son. Those cubans are so happy they die in the hundreds every year trying to flee the paradise that is Cuba on by jumping on anything that floats.


^^Food so plentiful and giving away so much that educated Cubans (teachers, engineers) are packing groceries in supermarkets across Tunapuna.

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