Anybody knows anything about planting garden?

[shake d livin wake d dead]

^^ always keep that in mind...any body asks,it's a good luck charm..

[spinner]

started heaping up dirt around the plants 2day. They look outstanding...

[nervewrecker]

Plants respond to the same gravitational pull of tides that affect the oceans, which alternately stimulates root and leaf growth. Seeds sprout more quickly, plants grow vigorously and at an optimum rate, harvests are larger and they don't go to seed as fast. This method has been practiced by many for hundreds of years, and is a perfect compliment to organic gardening because it is more effective in non-chemically treated soil.

The lunar phase controls the amount of moisture in the soil. This moisture is at its peak at the time of the new and the full moon. The sun and moon are lined up with earth. Just as the moon pulls the tides in the oceans, it also pulls upon the subtle bodies of water, causing moisture to rise in the earth, which encourages germination and growth. Tests have proven that seeds will absorb the most water at the time of the full moon.

After the full moon, as the moon wanes, the energy is drawing down. The gravitation pull is high, creating more moisture in the soil, but the moonlight is decreasing, putting energy into the roots. In the fourth quarter there is decreased gravitational pull and moonlight, and it is considered a resting period. This is also the best time to cultivate, harvest, transplant and prune. Mow lawns in the third or fourth quarter to retard growth.

I understand what you saying but does the moons gravitational pull have an effect on the rate / way that seeds absorb water?
While the pull may be increased by how much of a rise in the height of the vadose zone we talking here?
finally someone I can converse sensibly with on the forum btw, yay me.

it all depends on what cycle the moon is in..whether it's new moon,second quarter,full moon or fourth quarter..Each cycle affects different types of crops as well as the moisture in the earth's surface..

I understand what you saying about the fluctuations in the gravitational pull but I just dont see the height of the water table varying so much as to rise by a few feet to bring water to the surface where it can be utilized by seeds. I'd understand a few inches or maybe a foot but I just dont see water from six feet below coming to the surface.

it all depends on what cycle the moon is in..whether it's new moon,second quarter,full moon or fourth quarter..Each cycle affects different types of crops as well as the moisture in the earth's surface..

[Ted_v2]

quick question, im about to make some above ground plant beds(building the sides but the base remains regular dirt)
Any ideas what i need to use to layer it?
someone was telling me something like-
sharp sand
backfill/manure
and then promix?

how high does it need to be actually? would 6" of soil be good?

i honestly have no clue about planting anything but I have some free time and already have most of the tools already,
just need soil really, Home by me.

[dude2014]

What you are talking about is a grow box. Regular dirt/overburden sand, sharp sand, Pro Mix are mixed in proportions to produce a well drained, loose soil. Agricultural limestone sometimes called Aglime, is the dust from quarrying operations and is available from Agro Shops. Its local and it is the best. It is added at 1lb. or more per cubic foot. It has a limiting factor and as such you need not worry about there being too much. Fill the box with the soil and you are good to go.

But wait, what about plant nutrients?

Well pre mix soil from the Stockpile or Agro Shop may have manure and adding granular fertiliser may burn seedling. I use same sparingly as manures has many disease causing vectors such as, fungal, bacterial, nematodes, etc. Be sure to ask. In the absence of manure use 1lb. 12:11:18 Yarra Brand, 6oz.calcium Nitrate - NitraBor as it has Boron, 4oz Magnesium sulphate - MgSO4, ALL being field grade. Mix together and add some Pro Mix as the perlite will absorb the water from the MgSO4.

One oz per square foot is recommended and worked into the Ist. 2” of soil and watered in for crops like lettuce, celery, parsley, patchoi. For tomatoes, hot peppers, plant at the recommended spacing and fertilise about 4 to six days after. At ½ oz per plant 3” to 4” from the plant. If the seedling ‘burns’, the salts were too close. Also remember to get young seedlings with fairly white roots. Stay away from plants that are stunted, flowering, have black roots, etc. Sometimes our excitement makes us over look these things. I mention this because even with correct placing of fertilisers seedling still die as aresult of poor seedling quality.

Grow boxes made with concrete blocks are usually 8” high. You can fill with 6” of soil as the soil preparation can take some good labour depending on the size. If anyone is interested in Siding made of 8”PVC panel for a great look I can guide you. For older folks the 10” eases the pressure on the knees, back, etc.

[dude2014]

OP this is my trade here is what you need for an acre or so..

at least $6000 capital tops..depending on how the land is this would cover brush cutting and rotovating...you would need at least 100 bags of manure...use chicken manure though,it's cheaper,but you would need to threat it..

listen of chemicals/nutrients/equipment you may need..

at least 2pk seeds (different varieties exist,it's up to you.)
crates,for setting seeds (pro mix,rhizolex,miracle grow) that would take ah 2wks or so..

for planting and general use.

blau korn( best plant food) apply just before flowering...about 4 applications for the entire crop
12-24-12 rooting salt (after about 2wks in the ground)
thiovin-worms
ph plus
repel-downey mildue(disease)
bountiful harvest/greenstem (plant food)
bee scent (attract more bees/insects for increase pollination
bio 20 (booster)
pronto 35( white flies)
ethrin insecticide

different varieties of cucumber inclue: odyessy,rockingharm,vlaspick..etc etc..I have planted all and have experience in all...for further info..send pms if you like...

btw cucumber is an "iffy" crop,you could make real plenty or loose real plenty as well..

this. or for seed- u could pass in my asasco and get seedlings by the crate

Bros I know that this was posted in 2011and the point may be lost. Blaukorn is a slow release fertiliser. Applying it just before the cucumbers flowers will only feed the grass long after the cucumber crop was harvested. You want to use the mix I described above. The cucumber can also be fed with a water/salt solution of the same ingredients. It had to be mixed separately and then combined.

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

All I know is you need real money to plant Garden. And whatever you think you know is never enough, because for some reason or another Baigan will never produce and all the flowers will fall out no matter what fertilizer you use.

You won't believe how much money in chemicals it costs to keep pests away

If you try to get cow manure you realize nobody mining cows again. So because of supply and demand, Fertilizer is very expensive.

And even after all that lets say you get through, a man will pass in the night and thief out everything.

[dude2014]

All I know is you need real money to plant Garden. And whatever you think you know is never enough, because for some reason or another Baigan will never produce and all the flowers will fall out no matter what fertilizer you use.

You won't believe how much money in chemicals it costs to keep pests away

If you try to get cow manure you realize nobody mining cows again. So because of supply and demand, Fertilizer is very expensive.

And even after all that lets say you get through, a man will pass in the night and thief out everything.

The problem with the flowers falling off is not a fertilisation problem. It is an insect called tomato midge.
There are many different insecticide that will do the job. Also the marks on the baigan is from mites sucking on the young fruit. Now you know, become a pro.

With regards money, you can start with free seeds you get when you buy mature/full seim, bodi, carille, ochro, etc. Some hybrids will not germinate or bear fruits

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

WOW you serious? when I check online for flowers falling out is always something to do with it needs sandy soil or the humidity is too high place too hot etc

First I have heard of this thing called tomato midge I specifically told the Garden Shop owner in St Helena about this and the man say all I need is red potash well guess what that did nothing for preventing the flowers from dropping.

Guess I will try Baigan again, Baigan is super expensive all the time $10 a pound. If I can grow this I get through can't beat roast baigan with onions and oil with sada roti.

[pugboy]

The trips causing marks is mainly cosmetic though,
It is unfortunate that they have to spray so much for a cosmetic issue.

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

^ Yeah kinda like in the US where consumers won't buy cauliflower if its yellow it has to be perfect white. So they use rubber band to tie the leaf over the flower to prevent it from yellowing.

[TUNER POPO]

Anywhere locally sells "pyrethrins "insecticide?

[pugboy]

That name refers to a family of type of insecticide
Triton, Telstar, speckoz are all same family
If you look at the scientific name they are all synthetic versions

[TUNER POPO]

Okayy

[dude2014]

WOW you serious? when I check online for flowers falling out is always something to do with it needs sandy soil or the humidity is too high place too hot etc

First I have heard of this thing called tomato midge I specifically told the Garden Shop owner in St Helena about this and the man say all I need is red potash well guess what that did nothing for preventing the flowers from dropping.

Guess I will try Baigan again, Baigan is super expensive all the time $10 a pound. If I can grow this I get through can't beat roast baigan with onions and oil with sada roti.

Just keep posting and I will sort you out where I can. Though I am a construction manager, I am a much better agriculturist and I don’t even have a degree in agri. You can join THE AGRICULTURAL SOCIETY OF TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO. Dhano Sookoo knows more than Shiraz Khan of TUFA.

Also CARIBBEAN CHEMICALS has an annual calendar of products. It is late in the year so you may not get one. Enquire and get/borrow one and study as if your life depends on it.

To the back there is a guide to the different classes of chemicals you can use. If inexperience, stay away from the ones in red and yellow bands. Green and blue means god loves you or just that they are less toxic.

I buy supplies from St Helena obliquely opposite Madras Road, but again every person behind the counter may not be knowledgeable about the problem.

THINGS TO NOTE:
1. Some problems are pest related as the Tomato Midge. People will wonder if it is Tomato Midge why it affecting Baigan, but that is just the name of the vector. I advised about the mites. You can use Regeant (Carlsen Chemicals) before you plant and if you have dogs, you now know where they can come from.
2. Others are nutritional such as blossom end rot in tomatoes, burning of the tips in lettuce, especially Mignonette Bronze variety. It is not a fungal or bacterial problem. It is a calcium deficiency.

[dude2014]

Some resources to get you going:

1. Caribbean Chemicals annual calendar – Agro shops usually pay a sum to the company for the calendar. So that is why it may not be readily available
2. The net can provide possible causes of problem and solutions. InTrinidad the tomato midge is a known offender. Pictures of Blossom end rot and tip burn in lettuce can guide you to becoming a pro.
3. Joining communities such as TRINTUNERS, The Agricultural Society of Trinidad and Tobago. Attending The Farmers Training Center programmes for expert knowledge. They are available at various venues across the country. Check the County Agricultural offices for copies of training schedules, copy and stick up in your businesses/offices on a monthly basis.
4. Mafas Limited – Marcus Myco and his team of crop specialists can sort you out with cutting edge advice, sometimes at a fee.
5. Check a new entrant: VACA VERDE FARMS LIMITED. They are on trinituners.
Expand the list if you know of any person or organisations that can help.

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

WOW you serious? when I check online for flowers falling out is always something to do with it needs sandy soil or the humidity is too high place too hot etc

First I have heard of this thing called tomato midge I specifically told the Garden Shop owner in St Helena about this and the man say all I need is red potash well guess what that did nothing for preventing the flowers from dropping.

Guess I will try Baigan again, Baigan is super expensive all the time $10 a pound. If I can grow this I get through can't beat roast baigan with onions and oil with sada roti.

Just keep posting and I will sort you out where I can. Though I am a construction manager, I am a much better agriculturist and I don’t even have a degree in agri. You can join THE AGRICULTURAL SOCIETY OF TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO. Dhano Sookoo knows more than Shiraz Khan of TUFA.

Also CARIBBEAN CHEMICALS has an annual calendar of products. It is late in the year so you may not get one. Enquire and get/borrow one and study as if your life depends on it.

To the back there is a guide to the different classes of chemicals you can use. If inexperience, stay away from the ones in red and yellow bands. Green and blue means god loves you or just that they are less toxic.

I buy supplies from St Helena obliquely opposite Madras Road, but again every person behind the counter may not be knowledgeable about the problem.

THINGS TO NOTE:
1. Some problems are pest related as the Tomato Midge. People will wonder if it is Tomato Midge why it affecting Baigan, but that is just the name of the vector. I advised about the mites. You can use Regeant (Carlsen Chemicals) before you plant and if you have dogs, you now know where they can come from.
2. Others are nutritional such as blossom end rot in tomatoes, burning of the tips in lettuce, especially Mignonette Bronze variety. It is not a fungal or bacterial problem. It is a calcium deficiency.

Thanks dude much appreciated I will let you know how they go my mother also plants Baigan home aswell so she will be delighted to hear about this information. Will keep you posted

[baigan]

WOW you serious? when I check online for flowers falling out is always something to do with it needs sandy soil or the humidity is too high place too hot etc

First I have heard of this thing called tomato midge I specifically told the Garden Shop owner in St Helena about this and the man say all I need is red potash well guess what that did nothing for preventing the flowers from dropping.

Guess I will try Baigan again, Baigan is super expensive all the time $10 a pound. If I can grow this I get through can't beat roast baigan with onions and oil with sada roti.

Just keep posting and I will sort you out where I can. Though I am a construction manager, I am a much better agriculturist and I don’t even have a degree in agri. You can join THE AGRICULTURAL SOCIETY OF TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO. Dhano Sookoo knows more than Shiraz Khan of TUFA.

Also CARIBBEAN CHEMICALS has an annual calendar of products. It is late in the year so you may not get one. Enquire and get/borrow one and study as if your life depends on it.

To the back there is a guide to the different classes of chemicals you can use. If inexperience, stay away from the ones in red and yellow bands. Green and blue means god loves you or just that they are less toxic.

I buy supplies from St Helena obliquely opposite Madras Road, but again every person behind the counter may not be knowledgeable about the problem.

THINGS TO NOTE:
1. Some problems are pest related as the Tomato Midge. People will wonder if it is Tomato Midge why it affecting Baigan, but that is just the name of the vector. I advised about the mites. You can use Regeant (Carlsen Chemicals) before you plant and if you have dogs, you now know where they can come from.
2. Others are nutritional such as blossom end rot in tomatoes, burning of the tips in lettuce, especially Mignonette Bronze variety. It is not a fungal or bacterial problem. It is a calcium deficiency.

Thanks dude much appreciated I will let you know how they go my mother also plants Baigan home aswell so she will be delighted to hear about this information. Will keep you posted

[pugboy]

Btw regent is same chemical as flea/tick chemical frontline
It is also a popular termite chemical pumped into the ground

[dude2014]

Now to deal with high temperature and humidity.
High temperature is known to cause plants to abort flowers or interfere with the flowering of plants.

Humidity can cause fungus and bacteria to flourish.

Healthy plants can withstand the effects of the two. Ensuring that your soil PH is 5.5 to 6.5 with variations for different crops. Google same. I had advised that Ag Lime (Black Limestone from Blue metal and boulder operations) will provide calcium and magnesium. It is available locally in agro shops or at TRINCARB in Cumuto. Tuners who go to Wallerfield should be able to locate it. IT used to be FREDCON. They also have blue limestone sharp sand which can be used in your grow boxes. The lesson in 101 of the forgoing as it relates to the benefits of our local limestone is mind blowing .

Just to end by saying it does at least Fifteen things in the soil.

[dude2014]

The World Food Day theme for 2016 is:

THE WORLD IS CHANGING
FOOD AND AGRICULTURE MUST TOO

World Food Day was first launched in 1945. The reason World Food Day was created was to celebrate the launch of the United Nation’s Food and Agriculture Organisation. It is celebrated on 16th october every year.

The main principle which World Food Day celebrates is the furtherance of food security all over the world, especially in times of crisis. The launch of the Food and Agriculture Organisation by the UN has played a huge role in taking this worthy goal forward. Its annual celebration serves as a marker of the importance of this organisation and helps to raise awareness of the crucial need for successful agriculture policies to be implemented by governments across the world to ensure there is ample food available for everyone.
In recent years, World Food Day has used its annual day of celebration to focus on different aspects of food security and agriculture, including fishing communities, climate change and biodiversity.

You can do a seedling distribution, donate to the less fortunate or google Food and Agricultural Organisation's website for more ideas.

[OracleTnT]

Could blau korn be used after plant (saime) started bearing?

[dude2014]

You could use the blaukorn but it is a slow release. You would be much better off with 12:11:18 from Yarra.
It dissolve faster and becomes available to the plant quicker. See my posts above for some great tips.

[dude2014]

WOW you serious? when I check online for flowers falling out is always something to do with it needs sandy soil or the humidity is too high place too hot etc

First I have heard of this thing called tomato midge I specifically told the Garden Shop owner in St Helena about this and the man say all I need is red potash well guess what that did nothing for preventing the flowers from dropping.

Guess I will try Baigan again, Baigan is super expensive all the time $10 a pound. If I can grow this I get through can't beat roast baigan with onions and oil with sada roti.

Just keep posting and I will sort you out where I can. Though I am a construction manager, I am a much better agriculturist and I don’t even have a degree in agri. You can join THE AGRICULTURAL SOCIETY OF TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO. Dhano Sookoo knows more than Shiraz Khan of TUFA.

Also CARIBBEAN CHEMICALS has an annual calendar of products. It is late in the year so you may not get one. Enquire and get/borrow one and study as if your life depends on it.

To the back there is a guide to the different classes of chemicals you can use. If inexperience, stay away from the ones in red and yellow bands. Green and blue means god loves you or just that they are less toxic.

I buy supplies from St Helena obliquely opposite Madras Road, but again every person behind the counter may not be knowledgeable about the problem.

THINGS TO NOTE:
1. Some problems are pest related as the Tomato Midge. People will wonder if it is Tomato Midge why it affecting Baigan, but that is just the name of the vector. I advised about the mites. You can use Regeant (Carlsen Chemicals) before you plant and if you have dogs, you now know where they can come from.
2. Others are nutritional such as blossom end rot in tomatoes, burning of the tips in lettuce, especially Mignonette Bronze variety. It is not a fungal or bacterial problem. It is a calcium deficiency.

Thanks dude much appreciated I will let you know how they go my mother also plants Baigan home aswell so she will be delighted to hear about this information. Will keep you posted

Man you promised an update. How things with the garden. Some pics will be nice