*** THE OFFICIAL HOME THEATER & AUDIO THREAD**

[razi]

I chose Yamaha because it is perceived as more reliable compared to others in this price range. The reviews was pretty good too. I will look into that brand you mentioned, definitive technology. Thanks

[carluva]

http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Techno ... s=bp8060st

2 of those 1400

http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Techno ... s=cs8040hd

1 of those 300

http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Techno ... s=sr8040bp

2 of those 300

[carluva]

On budget... Got your two subs... And expandability for atmos

[carluva]

Speaking from experience, i had pioneer, yamaha and currently denon receivers. For me, the denon is the best. For the same price as yamaha, you get audyssey which is much better at acoustically tuning your speaker to your room than yamahas YPAO. Marantz, denons sister brand is also top notch. Check out the denon and aydyssey...

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

I've had really good experiences with Pioneer Elite and Marantz.
IMO Yamaha is better than Sony, Onkyo etc and gives a warmer tone to audio that many people like.
However there are cheaply made Yamaha models on the low end whereas the lowest end Marantz is still top notch.

[Electronic Interiors Ltd]

With a budget of around $1600usd for the receiver I think you should look at Integra as they are great sounding rock solid products with local support and warranty.

And $2000Usd for the speakers I think there are many great options available from both Def Tech and Bowers & Wilkins, again with local warranty and support.

I would recommend that you look at the Bowers & Wilkins M1 speakers and the Bowers & Wilkins ASW608 sub woofer, both are available in White or Black, to achieve your desired configuration of 5.2 you will need:

5 - Bowers & Wilkins M1 at $2000 each = $10,000
2 - Bowers & Wilkins ASW608 at $4500 each = $9,000

Totaling $19,000

http://www.bowers-wilkins.net/Speakers/ ... e/M-1.html

http://www.bowers-wilkins.net/Speakers/ ... SW608.html

For the Receiver the Integra DTR20.7 supports Dolby atoms up to 5.1.2 Channels, this receiver costs only $7,000.

http://www.integrahometheater.com/Produ ... rettyPhoto

If you need additional features you can look at the other Receivers from Integra.

While the Def Techs are also great speakers I don't like and the fact that the subs are built into the towers, this makes it impossible to place the sub in the best location in the room to achieve great sounding bass with even coverage(with out getting technical), as you have to put them in the front L & R of the room.

These items are also available from us locally with warranty, support and competitive pricing so no need to purchase from Amazon.

Also we have In-Wall and In-Ceiling options if you are willing to explore Custom Installation.

Would also recommend you look at Panamax Products for power management and surge protection.

http://www.panamax.com/

If you would like more info or a quote on any of these products please feel free to message or call us at 222-0724 / 362-2814.

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[16 cycles]

How do the M1s compare to the cm6 s2s?

[razi]

What are everyone's thoughts on klipsch's reference premier line, specifically the rp-260 set.

[ru$$ell]

^Top notch stuff,might be on the bright side but thats if you were exposed to side by side test with another brand, ended up keeping my klipsch Reference (2 RF52 and a RC52) cause of to many lowballing offers,right now it just parked up in the corner of the room collecting dust.

[Electronic Interiors Ltd]

How do the M1s compare to the cm6 s2s?

The M1s are great sounding speaker with its 4" woven glass fiber cone for bass/midrange duties paired with a 1" metal dome teweeter. The M1 has an overall sensitivity of 85db(2.83v,1m), and a power handeling of 100w unclipped power. It can be mounted on a shelf, with the stand or with the wall mount bracket.

The M1 is my go to choice for small to medium sized rooms for those who want great clarity, detail, and want that cinema sound with budget and space limitations.

The CM6s2 is the best bookshelf speaker available from the CM line, it is also the only bookshelf with Tweeter on Top Technology. This speaker is a 2 way vented system with a 6.5 " woven Kevlar® cone bass /midrange and a 1" Decoupled Double Dome aluminium high-frequency tweeter. The CM6s2 has and overall sensitivity of 88db with a frequency response of -6dB at 45Hz and 50kHz or 50Hz - 28kHz ±3dB. This speaker can also be mounted on a shelf or stand.

The CM6s2 is far superior in terms of sound and quality, it also is able to fill the room with accurate lifelike sound with an overwhelming sense of space.

But to be fair you cannot compare the two as they are two completely different speakers both in design and application.

[carluva]

The m1 is a mini theater speaker. Sensitivity is kinda low and power handling too. For 2000 a pop id prefer sumpin with a lil more power handling.

Ive heard Bowers and wilkins speakers up in the us and wasnt impressed. The deftech and the klipsch sounded much better and had better power handling and sensitivities. I just wonder if B&W is more name and thats what your paying for.... U know like bose.

But to each his own

[carluva]

With a budget of around $1600usd for the receiver I think you should look at Integra as they are great sounding rock solid products with local support and warranty.

And $2000Usd for the speakers I think there are many great options available from both Def Tech and Bowers & Wilkins, again with local warranty and support.

I would recommend that you look at the Bowers & Wilkins M1 speakers and the Bowers & Wilkins ASW608 sub woofer, both are available in White or Black, to achieve your desired configuration of 5.2 you will need:

5 - Bowers & Wilkins M1 at $2000 each = $10,000
2 - Bowers & Wilkins ASW608 at $4500 each = $9,000

Totaling $19,000

http://www.bowers-wilkins.net/Speakers/ ... e/M-1.html

http://www.bowers-wilkins.net/Speakers/ ... SW608.html

For the Receiver the Integra DTR20.7 supports Dolby atoms up to 5.1.2 Channels, this receiver costs only $7,000.

http://www.integrahometheater.com/Produ ... rettyPhoto

If you need additional features you can look at the other Receivers from Integra.

While the Def Techs are also great speakers I don't like and the fact that the subs are built into the towers, this makes it impossible to place the sub in the best location in the room to achieve great sounding bass with even coverage(with out getting technical), as you have to put them in the front L & R of the room.

These items are also available from us locally with warranty, support and competitive pricing so no need to purchase from Amazon.

Also we have In-Wall and In-Ceiling options if you are willing to explore Custom Installation.

Would also recommend you look at Panamax Products for power management and surge protection.

http://www.panamax.com/

If you would like more info or a quote on any of these products please feel free to message or call us at 222-0724 / 362-2814.

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Do you have a showroom with gear set up??? Id really like to hear the integra if its hooked up.... I mean im not interested to buy but would love to see and hear if youre willing...

[Electronic Interiors Ltd]

The m1 is a mini theater speaker. Sensitivity is kinda low and power handling too. For 2000 a pop id prefer sumpin with a lil more power handling.

Ive heard Bowers and wilkins speakers up in the us and wasnt impressed. The deftech and the klipsch sounded much better and had better power handling and sensitivities. I just wonder if B&W is more name and thats what your paying for.... U know like bose.

But to each his own

I myself have heard many speaker companies with great products including Bowers & Wilkins sound pretty bad and unsatisfactory, but 90% of the time its was due to the fact that the wrong products were used for the application, or the application / installation of the products were wrong.

The key to a great system is proper planning.

While I do agree that power handling and sensitivity do play an important role in a speakers performance we cannot overlook the application in which it was deigned for. I have used the Mini Theater MT50D in small to medium sized rooms with excellent results that all have the ability to reach uncomfortable output levels with as little as 85w per speaker.

With that being said, if I were to use the Mini theater MT50D in a large room the results will be less than satisfactory.

Sound is something that is quite unique in a way that it is subject to ones perception of great sound.

While they do have people who look to speakers and measure there performance by there output and over look accuracy and detail, there are also the ones that have good reference points to great sound and do appreciate the detail and accuracy that can be offered by better products.

I have clients who believe it or not measure how all other speakers sound to Bose as that is what they believe to be the best sound possible from a speaker, but it just goes to show sound is very subjective. I always try to encourage clients to listen to speakers with an open mind.

Here is a review from What HI-FI for the Bowers & Wilkins Mini Theater MT50D
http://www.whathifi.com/bw/mt-50/review

We do have a showroom, but it is currently under construction and should be completed soon. When that showroom is finished it will be open by appointment only and you are more than welcome to set up an appointment. This show room is an interactive one where you an experience home automation, lighting control, motorized shades, sound bars, wireless music systems, multi-room audio,In-ceiling & In-wall speakers, outdoor speakers, surround sound systems and most importantly a dedicated theater room.

[carluva]

^^ agreed

Let us know when the Showroom is complete. Id love to come by and have look see.

[Miktay]

I have clients who believe it or not measure how all other speakers sound to Bose

No highs...no lows
Must be Bose

[carluva]

Blech. My wife's brother in law is like that. Believes that bose is it. He goes on and on about his bose speakers and bose bass module and bose this and that. He also believes that playing the movie soundtrack on loud with roof rattling bass is the way to watch movies. I just listen to him and say nothing. He'll never get it that bose is not what is marketed to be.

[lancer3]

What are everyone's thoughts on klipsch's reference premier line, specifically the rp-260 set.

I have the klipsch reference II line along with a SVS sub and i am pretty impressed with it. My receiver is also a Yamaha aventage. I say go for it as the premier line supposes to be better according to their design team.

[crazybalhead]

Budget for 5.2 speaker setup is $1500 to 2000 US.

I know I fedup say it, but you can get a very nice set of Paradigm speakers for that range. My current set, is the first set of speakers I've ever owned that I did not have to tinker with. They were great out of the box. I did not use Audyssey with mine, or the auto eq or any of that. Just a few minor adjustments at the start.

[SR]

Men bashing bose but never really heard true bose systems.....not the all in one package crap they selling in a box these days. Sound quality is subjective but many doing the subjectivity hearing aint that good to start with while others just want specific brands just to say they have it. Always audition the systems you are interested in and not just a sales pitch from someone

[SR]

Home theatre systems cannot compare to audiophile systems so keep that in mind when making a decision on what you want your system for

[Premchand1976]

So it's known and understood that home theatre systems cannot sound like car audio but I would like to know if there are systems that are powerful ( 200-300 watts subs ) and soundbars or 5.1/7.1 systems that are simple to use.

By this I mean I want it simple like the bose system wherein one remote controls the system and I don't have to power on receiver, player etc before I can hear music ?

I have both the cinemate II and the Nakamichi NK 22 systems and honestly the nakamichi is cleaner but they both lack the depth and volume on the subs. I think the sub is like 50watts rms or so and sounds pretty ok. Would love the same voice speakers/ soundbar with a high powered sub all controlled by 1 remote.

[meccalli]

Bose is what you pitch to consumers who want expensive audio systems with no real knowledge of the options out there. It's overpriced mediocrity, that's over pitched in the wrong circles that tend to give it the full treatment for what it is. That's why it has a bad rap in ht circles. you'll see raving reviews on regular consumer sites but you'll find the products degraded in places like audioholics and hts. You'll be in the same boat with a logitech system if you choose their 1k priced options.

[Gladiator]

Home theatre systems cannot compare to audiophile systems so keep that in mind when making a decision on what you want your system for

I beg to differ... you can in fact have an audiophile HT system.

[carluva]

Home theatre systems cannot compare to audiophile systems so keep that in mind when making a decision on what you want your system for

And bose is definitely not audiophile. Bose is ok if you want something simple, but budget is an issue and for the price of a bose ypu can get far better gear closer to audiophile. Bose is about bass... Overpowering and drowning bass. And many folks think that bass is a measure of sound and power which its definitely not. Bose puts no focus on mids and heights.

[carluva]

So it's known and understood that home theatre systems cannot sound like car audio but I would like to know if there are systems that are powerful ( 200-300 watts subs ) and soundbars or 5.1/7.1 systems that are simple to use.

By this I mean I want it simple like the bose system wherein one remote controls the system and I don't have to power on receiver, player etc before I can hear music ?

I have both the cinemate II and the Nakamichi NK 22 systems and honestly the nakamichi is cleaner but they both lack the depth and volume on the subs. I think the sub is like 50watts rms or so and sounds pretty ok. Would love the same voice speakers/ soundbar with a high powered sub all controlled by 1 remote.

Car audio and home theater cannot be compared. Car audio is geared towards clarity in stereo sound. Home theater is multichannel. Which is why its very hard to find an quality home theater which can play reference quality stereo sound.

There are many systems far more powerful than 200-300 watts and much smaller than bose speakers. And there are soundbars out there that blow bose out of the water in terms of multichannel.

I have several components in my setup - receiver, ps3, tv, cable box and all are controlled with one remote. A logitech harmony. You just need to know where to look and what to look for and there is plenty of gear that sound better than bose, is cheaper than bose and is as just was easy to use as bose.

[carluva]

Men bashing bose but never really heard true bose systems.....not the all in one package crap they selling in a box these days. Sound quality is subjective but many doing the subjectivity hearing aint that good to start with while others just want specific brands just to say they have it. Always audition the systems you are interested in and not just a sales pitch from someone

Curious tho - what does a true bose system contain?

[Gladiator]

Thread is getting cornfusing.... Are we saying that car audio systems are reference audiophile because it is stereo?

The car is the most challenging environment to set up and tune for sound quality. In fact most of what is done in car audio is to try to use 2 channels to make it sound like a multi channel system... not so?

A dedicated home theater can be set up professionally to reproduce sound accurately and you don't have the reflections, distance problems, offset speaker positioning and mounting, crappy car materials etc to cater for.

[carluva]

I didnt mean that car audio is audiophile stereo. I just meant that you cant compare car audio to ht. which is the same thing i believe your saying.

[X_Factor]

Thread is getting cornfusing.... Are we saying that car audio systems are reference audiophile because it is stereo?

The car is the most challenging environment to set up and tune for sound quality. In fact most of what is done in car audio is to try to use 2 channels to make it sound like a multi channel system... not so?

A dedicated home theater can be set up professionally to reproduce sound accurately and you don't have the reflections, distance problems, offset speaker positioning and mounting, crappy car materials etc to cater for.

no one is disputing that it can reproduce sound accurately but
reproduce what kind of sound?
music or movies?

and if u say both
which music tracks comes 5.1 and what movie in this era comes stereo 2.1
both will have its own separate and unique settings

[mero]

Looking for a simple 5.1 setup to go with my yamaha v779 receiver. Looking at the Energy Take classic 5.1 or the Pioneer Andrew Jones 5.1 SP-PK52FS set, which looks pretty impressive imo.

Just want a plug and play, most I'll the do is prob upgrade the woofer in time.

Anywhere locally sells those or I gonna bring them in?