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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby RASC » February 1st, 2016, 7:18 pm

How else do you spur jobs and economic activity during a recession? Do nothing?

I know you rather wait til things get good and the repair bill is 1billion+ that's your peoples magic number!

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby hustla_ambition101 » February 1st, 2016, 7:24 pm

RASC wrote:How else do you spur jobs and economic activity during a recession? Do nothing?

I know you rather wait til things get good and the repair bill is 1billion+ that's your peoples magic number!


They want back pay to stick up in the bank

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby SmokeyGTi » February 2nd, 2016, 8:52 am

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This lady can't be serious...put to good use??!??!!
what a waste of sperm...

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby desifemlove » February 2nd, 2016, 12:35 pm

SmokeyGTi wrote:Image

This lady can't be serious...put to good use??!??!!
what a waste of sperm...

like your government never misused money? #UNClogic

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby S_2NR » February 2nd, 2016, 12:45 pm

Needful? Lmao

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby desifemlove » February 2nd, 2016, 12:47 pm

RASC wrote:How else do you spur jobs and economic activity during a recession? Do nothing?

I know you rather wait til things get good and the repair bill is 1billion+ that's your peoples magic number!

is there anything wrong wit the current location? why not keep the current location and turn the Red House into state offices, or a museum?

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby desifemlove » February 2nd, 2016, 12:47 pm

S_2NR wrote:Needful? Lmao


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/needful

Typical UNC wit primary school education...

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby Spitfir3 » February 2nd, 2016, 12:51 pm

desifemlove wrote:
S_2NR wrote:Needful? Lmao


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/needful

Typical UNC wit primary school education...


so because someone is against the idea that automatically makes you a UNC stooge? lel

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby Habit7 » February 2nd, 2016, 1:01 pm

desifemlove wrote:
RASC wrote:How else do you spur jobs and economic activity during a recession? Do nothing?

I know you rather wait til things get good and the repair bill is 1billion+ that's your peoples magic number!

is there anything wrong wit the current location? why not keep the current location and turn the Red House into state offices, or a museum?

And how does that avoid using $400 million to repair it?

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby traciss » February 2nd, 2016, 1:22 pm

What purpose is repairing the Red house going to give. Put it to something much more useful. I want my back pay.

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby sMASH » February 2nd, 2016, 1:42 pm

jhonnieblue wrote:Seriosuly it would be cheaper to mash that old crap down and build a new building..bit like anyone gives a crap about it
Or that they need it now...this is a waste of money


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I kinda like the idea of the red house. 400 mil is plenty, we should at least discuss the necessity, and the amount.

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby S_2NR » February 2nd, 2016, 6:05 pm

desifemlove wrote:
S_2NR wrote:Needful? Lmao


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/needful

Typical UNC wit primary school education...

Define presumptuous

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby De Dragon » February 3rd, 2016, 4:27 pm

RASC wrote:
SMc wrote:Oh geeg I posting in political thread....


Anyway every country should where possible try to maintain there historical buildings, whether it red, yellow, brown or green.

Can you imagine what would happen if the UK decided it would make more money/cost less to tear down the Houses of Parliament and replace it with housing, or the US to replace the White House with a private airport...sometimes a city's building help define it at the Red House does that (not by itself) for POS


You're talking to Philistines who rather have our historical pieces destroyed for something more modern. They care not of the history of our land or anyone's for that matter.

They're the kinda people who go Cuba on vacation and asking where the TGIF.

Like the historical treasure of the Tarouba Stadium? No one is saying don't restore, but the selection of the stadium while true treasures like those around the QPS remain dead or dying is a mystery.
If the stadium "just" needs minor repairs, it will keep for now, those old structures need work or they will literally rot.

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby ~Vēġó~ » February 5th, 2016, 4:02 am

wasn't there some hullabaloo, about some Amerindian burial ground or something of the sort, where restoration work to the red house was being done, a few years ago?

http://www.caribbeanintelligence.com/content/sidelining-trinidads-indigenous-people

some subsequent readings indicated that work was eventually suspended after the discovery.

but what about the plight of the indigenous people? were their needs met in order to resume work?

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby Gladiator » February 5th, 2016, 6:26 pm

Please tell this circus of a govt that if they want to restore something please look at the EWMSC. The facility is a disgrace and infrastructure there is close to failure. If we ever have a real natural disaster, epidemic or war heaven help us all.

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » February 5th, 2016, 6:41 pm

Both sides of this discussion valid. Only way to truly pick a side would be more information from the government as to what they plan to do with respect to other infrastructure.

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby Habit7 » February 5th, 2016, 8:02 pm

Gladiator wrote:Please tell this circus of a govt that if they want to restore something please look at the EWMSC. The facility is a disgrace and infrastructure there is close to failure. If we ever have a real natural disaster, epidemic or war heaven help us all.

I know this won't fit into your rant narrative but just be grateful it is happening.

Opening of Wards 18 and 20 at the EWMSC
Friday, January 15, 2016

Overcrowding and insufficient bed space at public hospitals is a problem experienced worldwide and comes as a result of a variety of factors. Nevertheless, the Ministry of Health, in its continued efforts to ensure quality healthcare, has taken steps to address this issue with the opening of two new wards at the Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex.

The Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex was a pay for service institution until 2005 when all services were made free to citizens. One of the implications of this transition was that the average number of patients seen in the Accident and Emergency Department increased from approximately 5000 annually to approximately 72,000. While this increase in patient load was also accompanied by an increased number of services, there was not a similar increase in capacity at the facility; this has been a key contributor to the overcrowding experienced at the Accident and Emergency Department.

Another major contributor to overcrowding is the use of emergency departments by scores of patients who should properly access care at local health centres. For example, visiting the accident and emergency departments to dress minor wounds or injuries when care for these is adequately provided at local health centres.

It is therefore anticipated that the opening of two new wards at the facility will reduce the recurring challenge of overcrowding at the hospital. Ward 18 is the Adult Admitting Ward, which will serve as a holding bay and filter clinic-facilitating patients who are to be warded on both the Adult Medical and Adult Surgical Wards and are waiting to be placed in beds. Ward 20 is an extension of the Adult Medical Ward 4 and would accommodate the overflow of patients who belong to that ward.

These new wards will bring the total adult bed space at the facility to 450.

http://www.health.gov.tt/news/newsitem.aspx?id=609


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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby De Dragon » February 5th, 2016, 8:35 pm

Habit7 wrote:
Gladiator wrote:Please tell this circus of a govt that if they want to restore something please look at the EWMSC. The facility is a disgrace and infrastructure there is close to failure. If we ever have a real natural disaster, epidemic or war heaven help us all.

I know this won't fit into your rant narrative but just be grateful it is happening.

Opening of Wards 18 and 20 at the EWMSC
Friday, January 15, 2016

Overcrowding and insufficient bed space at public hospitals is a problem experienced worldwide and comes as a result of a variety of factors. Nevertheless, the Ministry of Health, in its continued efforts to ensure quality healthcare, has taken steps to address this issue with the opening of two new wards at the Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex.

The Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex was a pay for service institution until 2005 when all services were made free to citizens. One of the implications of this transition was that the average number of patients seen in the Accident and Emergency Department increased from approximately 5000 annually to approximately 72,000. While this increase in patient load was also accompanied by an increased number of services, there was not a similar increase in capacity at the facility; this has been a key contributor to the overcrowding experienced at the Accident and Emergency Department.

Another major contributor to overcrowding is the use of emergency departments by scores of patients who should properly access care at local health centres. For example, visiting the accident and emergency departments to dress minor wounds or injuries when care for these is adequately provided at local health centres.

It is therefore anticipated that the opening of two new wards at the facility will reduce the recurring challenge of overcrowding at the hospital. Ward 18 is the Adult Admitting Ward, which will serve as a holding bay and filter clinic-facilitating patients who are to be warded on both the Adult Medical and Adult Surgical Wards and are waiting to be placed in beds. Ward 20 is an extension of the Adult Medical Ward 4 and would accommodate the overflow of patients who belong to that ward.

These new wards will bring the total adult bed space at the facility to 450.

http://www.health.gov.tt/news/newsitem.aspx?id=609


:? :?
Will every single patient be moved to these wards? What happening to the ones in the older wards that Gladiator asked about restoring/upgrading?

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby Redman » February 5th, 2016, 8:43 pm

They should close ewmsc and do everything now.

This ting about open new wards then refurb' ing old wards is just so 90s.

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby Habit7 » February 5th, 2016, 8:49 pm

De Dragon wrote: :? :?
Will every single patient be moved to these wards? What happening to the ones in the older wards that Gladiator asked about restoring/upgrading?

They are going to explode them and blame it on RAMCO driver #12.

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby De Dragon » February 5th, 2016, 8:55 pm

Habit7 wrote:
De Dragon wrote: :? :?
Will every single patient be moved to these wards? What happening to the ones in the older wards that Gladiator asked about restoring/upgrading?

They are going to explode them and blame it on RAMCO driver #12.

Expected response.

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby EmilioA » February 5th, 2016, 9:33 pm

I have the perfect solution. Bulldoze the Red House and build a next Parkade. DOMA go say thank you.

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Postby Habit7 » February 5th, 2016, 9:59 pm

Just when you are flabbergasted that he is restoring the Red House, now he want to restore the President’s House, Stollmeyer’s Castle, Whitehall and Mille Fleurs!?!

He probably just doing that so he can sell it to the Syrian mafia so that they can sell gyros and burgers there. Why doesn't he follow the prefect plan Kamla left and build a floating museum over Royal Gaol, duh!
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Published on Feb 5, 2016, 3:36 pm AST


A Restoration Committee has been established to oversee the restoration of President’s House, the Red House, Stollmeyer’s Castle, Whitehall and Mille Fleurs. The committee is chaired by Prime Minister, Dr the Honourable Keith Rowley and comprises Minister of Finance, the Honourable Colm Imbert; Minister of Planning and Development, the Honourable Camille Robinson-Regis and Attorney General the Honourable Faris Al Rawi.

The committee met on Wednesday and received a status report on the Red House restoration. At that meeting decisions were made with respect to the scope of works for that project, and a time frame for acceleration of completion of those works.

It was also decided that the original scope of works which involves construction of additional Parliamentary space will not be pursued. The restoration will be confined to the Red House for housing of the Parliament. The additional space, which would have been catered for in any new construction, would instead be accommodated at Cabildo Building, situated just west of the Red House.

It is to be noted that the current occupants of the Cabildo Building are scheduled to move shortly into the Legal Affairs Towers of the Government Campus, thereby freeing up space which can satisfy the Parliament’s needs.

In light of these decisions it was also concluded that the existing tender exercise be aborted and that the architectural designs be reviewed to take into account the effect of these decisions.

The Urban Development Corporation of Trinidad and Tobago (Udecott) , in consultation with Parliament, is to report back to the committee on these decisions by the first week of March. Thereafter, new tenders will be invited for the restoration of the Red House, with a completion date for the works to be established after full consideration of the exercise.

Today , the Prime Minister led the restoration team and other officials from the Office of the Prime Minister, (Udecott) and others on a tour of Stollmeyer’s Castle, White Hall, Mille Fleurs and President’s House.

Udecott has also been instructed, along with the restoration experts, to complete the work at Stollmeyer’s Castle and to prepare to commence work at Whitehall. The use to which Stollmeyer’s Castle is to be put will be the subject of a future decision of the Cabinet.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20160205 ... g-our-past

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby nos_specialist » February 5th, 2016, 10:34 pm

Well wah u expect..

U work hard so others can waste your money.
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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby Gladiator » February 5th, 2016, 10:38 pm

Habit7 wrote:
Gladiator wrote:Please tell this circus of a govt that if they want to restore something please look at the EWMSC. The facility is a disgrace and infrastructure there is close to failure. If we ever have a real natural disaster, epidemic or war heaven help us all.

I know this won't fit into your rant narrative but just be grateful it is happening.

Opening of Wards 18 and 20 at the EWMSC
Friday, January 15, 2016

Overcrowding and insufficient bed space at public hospitals is a problem experienced worldwide and comes as a result of a variety of factors. Nevertheless, the Ministry of Health, in its continued efforts to ensure quality healthcare, has taken steps to address this issue with the opening of two new wards at the Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex.

The Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex was a pay for service institution until 2005 when all services were made free to citizens. One of the implications of this transition was that the average number of patients seen in the Accident and Emergency Department increased from approximately 5000 annually to approximately 72,000. While this increase in patient load was also accompanied by an increased number of services, there was not a similar increase in capacity at the facility; this has been a key contributor to the overcrowding experienced at the Accident and Emergency Department.

Another major contributor to overcrowding is the use of emergency departments by scores of patients who should properly access care at local health centres. For example, visiting the accident and emergency departments to dress minor wounds or injuries when care for these is adequately provided at local health centres.

It is therefore anticipated that the opening of two new wards at the facility will reduce the recurring challenge of overcrowding at the hospital. Ward 18 is the Adult Admitting Ward, which will serve as a holding bay and filter clinic-facilitating patients who are to be warded on both the Adult Medical and Adult Surgical Wards and are waiting to be placed in beds. Ward 20 is an extension of the Adult Medical Ward 4 and would accommodate the overflow of patients who belong to that ward.

These new wards will bring the total adult bed space at the facility to 450.

http://www.health.gov.tt/news/newsitem.aspx?id=609



I am sure your PNM would be grateful for your swift and relevant excuse making. However I am not speaking of just two additional wards. The facility is running out of power, has a broken sewer plant and chillers are ready to shut down. Typical politician dumbos planning to open two new wards and hardly have power and water for what exists now.

If they would forget the vanity and political mileage for a second and focus on the people they may actually gain some credibility.... otherwise its another set of failed politicians there for a 5 years and using the country's resources to make themselves look good with the hope of being re elected.

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby Habit7 » February 5th, 2016, 11:15 pm

I guess I was right.

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby De Dragon » February 5th, 2016, 11:25 pm

Habit7 wrote:Just when you are flabbergasted that he is restoring the Red House, now he want to restore the President’s House, Stollmeyer’s Castle, Whitehall and Mille Fleurs!?!

He probably just doing that so he can sell it to the Syrian mafia so that they can sell gyros and burgers there. Why doesn't he follow the prefect plan Kamla left and build a floating museum over Royal Gaol, duh!
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Published on Feb 5, 2016, 3:36 pm AST


A Restoration Committee has been established to oversee the restoration of President’s House, the Red House, Stollmeyer’s Castle, Whitehall and Mille Fleurs. The committee is chaired by Prime Minister, Dr the Honourable Keith Rowley and comprises Minister of Finance, the Honourable Colm Imbert; Minister of Planning and Development, the Honourable Camille Robinson-Regis and Attorney General the Honourable Faris Al Rawi.

The committee met on Wednesday and received a status report on the Red House restoration. At that meeting decisions were made with respect to the scope of works for that project, and a time frame for acceleration of completion of those works.

It was also decided that the original scope of works which involves construction of additional Parliamentary space will not be pursued. The restoration will be confined to the Red House for housing of the Parliament. The additional space, which would have been catered for in any new construction, would instead be accommodated at Cabildo Building, situated just west of the Red House.

It is to be noted that the current occupants of the Cabildo Building are scheduled to move shortly into the Legal Affairs Towers of the Government Campus, thereby freeing up space which can satisfy the Parliament’s needs.

In light of these decisions it was also concluded that the existing tender exercise be aborted and that the architectural designs be reviewed to take into account the effect of these decisions.

The Urban Development Corporation of Trinidad and Tobago (Udecott) , in consultation with Parliament, is to report back to the committee on these decisions by the first week of March. Thereafter, new tenders will be invited for the restoration of the Red House, with a completion date for the works to be established after full consideration of the exercise.

Today , the Prime Minister led the restoration team and other officials from the Office of the Prime Minister, (Udecott) and others on a tour of Stollmeyer’s Castle, White Hall, Mille Fleurs and President’s House.

Udecott has also been instructed, along with the restoration experts, to complete the work at Stollmeyer’s Castle and to prepare to commence work at Whitehall. The use to which Stollmeyer’s Castle is to be put will be the subject of a future decision of the Cabinet.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20160205 ... g-our-past

While it is good PR to make statements and form committees, the proof is in the pudding. I await the outcome of this exercise.

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby Ronaldo95163 » February 6th, 2016, 11:28 pm

Dey gonna fix stollmyers castle or however you spell it
idk how much it costing now.

Add that to their tab

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby Trinispougla » February 6th, 2016, 11:48 pm

Two economists have stated that the Red House restoration is necessary as it is the symbol of our democracy. We must be the only people okay with the parliament being housed in a financial complex for the length of time it has been there. I agree with Dr Arjoon however that local contractors and a local workforce must be utilized in order to see the economic benefits, is keeping the money in the country.

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Re: $400m Red House repair starts in March

Postby racedriverpro » February 6th, 2016, 11:51 pm

Ronaldo95163 wrote:How much of ollyur back pay fixing stadium and red house?

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