PNM people why not propose this!

[PariaMan]

People direly along East west Corridor and North South is Equal to 70.22% of the population . They will benefit directly from a Rail System.

Population of Penal Debe Corporation = 89,392 or 6.73%

Ok lets build the 10 Billion highway over 70% of the population will still be in deadlock but the 8.25% in Penal/Debe and Point Fortin will cruise swiftly up until they reach San Fernando and then is bumper to bumper to town.

Very bright idea


I agreeing with you!

[Redman]

Population of Trinidad=1,328,019

Population of Point Fortin = 20,235 which is 1.52%

Bright Idea lets build a 10 Billion dollar Highway for people in Point Fortin!

Lets use cash so that no one like
IDB can tell us it is a bad idea.

Yeah
Its just Atlantic and Trinmar down there

nothing relevant.

As Habit said the Hway opens up the entire country,increasing real estate values, business opps and the high way to point supports the cocaine coming up through cedros.....which supports the financial sector...and real estate prices country wide.

[PariaMan]

Questions

1. Was a highway this size necessary
2. Did we have to use cash?
3. Considering how people along Norh South and East west Suffering was this the piority at this Time
4. Could it not have been done in stages while at the same time developing north South and East West to to ease the congestion
5. Was all of this explored before making the decision

For example we have a Couva Children's Hospital when all the other Children's hospitals or wings are under populated while Adult hospitals have not enough beds.

All very bright Ideas from scientists who are much brighter than me

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

So when they make the Airport in Beetham what will they do with the one in Piarco?

[desifemlove]

So been saying this a while now yet I cant figure out why they have not taken any proper steps to look into its feasibility.



That entire piece of Stagnant water just after sea lots, this can be filled and utilitized as a HUGE car park to serve the city of port of spain, not the government ministers and MP's ( that's what they have Hyatt for), not the politishitians, but the people, PArk and RIDE, and if you MUST go into the city then you PAY to do so.

Or bulid a More MODERN city Gate on that side and then reuse the current city gate as the new CAR PARK for port of SPAIN!

Colm did...long before UNC/Kamla's tenure...

it's called forward thinking...not paving roads, building pavements and drainage and saying dis is "development."

[EmilioA]

So the answer to your question is. Yes the PNM did propose it. But the UNC opposed it via thier candidate Lennox Smith and when they were in power they abandon it.

Manning how we wronged three.!

[The_Honourable]

The highway also serves Debe, Penal, Fyzabad, La Brea and Siparia plus many other small communities. Plus the Atlantic LNG trains, Brighton industrial estate and the majority of our onshore oil installations.

You sounding like a north man with no clue of what you are talking about.

Well said.

Paria Man we exhausted this in the Wayne Kublalsingh and the San Fernando to Point Fortin threads. This highway is needed no question there. The execution of it (financial & packaging), yes there are questions that need to be answered.

[Dizzy28]

So when they make the Airport in Beetham what will they do with the one in Piarco?

Lease it to the Russians for a forward operating airbase.............prepare yourself!!!!

[shottah_crew]

Population of Trinidad=1,328,019

Population of Point Fortin = 20,235 which is 1.52%

Bright Idea lets build a 10 Billion dollar Highway for people in Point Fortin!

Lets use cash so that no one like
IDB can tell us it is a bad idea.

Yeah
Its just Atlantic and Trinmar down there

nothing relevant.

[Sarcasm]what them thing ever add to the GDP that the 70% enjoying? [/sarcasm]

[desifemlove]

Questions

1. Was a highway this size necessary
2. Did we have to use cash?
3. Considering how people along Norh South and East west Suffering was this the piority at this Time
4. Could it not have been done in stages while at the same time developing north South and East West to to ease the congestion
5. Was all of this explored before making the decision

For example we have a Couva Children's Hospital when all the other Children's hospitals or wings are under populated while Adult hospitals have not enough beds.

All very bright Ideas from scientists who are much brighter than me

been on the agenda since Manning time....

and why not have quick access to south, north, everywhere?

[De Dragon]

Population of Trinidad=1,328,019

Population of Point Fortin = 20,235 which is 1.52%

Bright Idea lets build a 10 Billion dollar Highway for people in Point Fortin!

Lets use cash so that no one like
IDB can tell us it is a bad idea.

The highway also serves Debe, Penal, Fyzabad, La Brea and Siparia plus many other small communities. Plus the Atlantic LNG trains, Brighton industrial estate and the majority of our onshore oil installations.

You sounding like a north man with no clue of what you are talking about.

No, he sounds like a man who's arguing for arguing sake.........

[PariaMan]

No breds the idea that we spending
Billions of cash money on a highway of which the north south and east west people who make up about maybe 90 % of the travelling public does not benefit from and have to spend hours in horrible traffic just does not make sense to me

Yes we needed that highway but was it of the highest priority ?

[antlind]

No breds the idea that we spending
Billions of cash money on a highway of which the north south and east west people who make up about maybe 90 % of the travelling public does not benefit from and have to spend hours in horrible traffic just does not make sense to me

Yes we needed that highway but was it of the highest priority ?

I think your estimates are incorrect. Do you have any idea how many people from deep south actually work in the northern part of the country? It's way more than 10% of the travelling public.

[PariaMan]

Well based on the last census 70 % along east west and north south while only 6 % Debe penal point fortin cedros and surrounding areas

While this does not say the actual travelling public I think it gives a good indication.

[EmilioA]

All told the Siparia, Point Fortin and Penal/Debe Corporations contain 200,000 people. That;s about 15% of the population.

[nervewrecker]

Upgrade to sea lots waterfront > Point Fortin Highway

That should have been done first!

Much more People would have been positively affected!

can you tell us how would upgrading it benefit the population?

[PariaMan]

That's not what the last census showed I will put up thefigures

[PariaMan]

Point Fortin about 25000 penal Debe 60 000. That's no where close to 200000 even if you add the surrounding areas

[pete]

The purpose of that highway is not only to move people but large machinery to support the oil and gas companies operating there, allow easy movement of products and open up the area to encourage growth.

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[civicman]

Population of Trinidad=1,328,019

Population of Point Fortin = 20,235 which is 1.52%

Bright Idea lets build a 10 Billion dollar Highway for people in Point Fortin!

Lets use cash so that no one like
IDB can tell us it is a bad idea.

Lol at this fool
The highway is to point fortin
but it goes through a number of
Towns and used by not only people living in point.
So lets say the two highways heading in to port of Spain,these would have been justified
by the population of port of Spain

[samos]

Wow that's a good idea why did the people's partnership didn't think of dat while they were in power [UNAMUSED FACE][UNAMUSED FACE][UNAMUSED FACE]

[PariaMan]

My point is by the 2011 census even if you add up all the people on surrounding area it is less than ten per cent of the population. Since there is few industries in this area most of the people there will be moving out of that area for work . Thus the effect of the travelling public with the building of this highway is negligible

That is why most of the country still suffering everyday in incredible traffic.

[sMASH]

While the human count may be lesser, by comparison, the equipment used by the heavy industry is quite significant. This country runs on oil and gas, most of which communicategs between the east and west of the island, but in the south end. U could have called it a corridor but there isn't one.

While the northern east/west of corridor is concerned with transporting janitors and receptionists from one end of the island to the other, the road network in south has the task of accomodating that as well as industrial equipment with individual units costs rivaling the cost of the rail trains.

The value to the economy and the state of the road networks required an improvement.

As each section opened, there were noticable differences.
And as incomplete as they are, new areas have been opens up to development, reducing the strain on centralization.

[EmilioA]

That's not what the last census showed I will put up thefigures

Point Fortin about 25000 penal Debe 60 000. That's no where close to 200000 even if you add the surrounding areas

1. You are leaving out Siparia --population 87,000

2. Penal Debe is 89,400


Thats the figures from the 2011 census. Where taking yours from ?

[RASC]

Pariaman. Stop.

[antlind]

I work with a lady from point fortin. We both work in chaguanas. She would have to leave home at 4am to get to work for 630-ish. On evenings she leaves work at 4 and doesn't get home until 7pm. With the highway she is hoping to significantly cut that time down. I am happy that the PP built that highway. It's time Trinidadians from Deep South get some attention.

[cornfused]

There are three lane highways needed ( of not more )from Piarco to Sangre Grande , there are also three lanes needed(if not more ) from Grand Bazaar to at least San Fernando if not further.

Removal of traffic lights on the CRH with simple overpass systems.

Expand the PBR with a dedicated Bus only lane , Maxis and private vehicles in another lane only at designated stopping points can these lanes merge . With a view to a BRT system . I believe any train system should not only be for passengers , it should have containerized cargo and moderate to heavy flat bed transport as well.

[Habit7]

I am happy that the PP built that highway. It's time Trinidadians from Deep South get some attention.

PP didn't build that high way alone. Before the PP came, that highway was conceived, planned, surveyed and had a contractor chosen. The PP has spend $5B and the it's only 55% complete. Also South trinis enjoy the high paying jobs from Atlantic LNG, Petrotrin and all the support companies for these companies which necessitate the highway in the first place. South Trinis have been getting attention long time now.

[1UZFE]

^^ so... unc build d national library??

[York]

I am happy that the PP built that highway. It's time Trinidadians from Deep South get some attention.

PP didn't build that high way alone. Before the PP came, that highway was conceived, planned, surveyed and had a contractor chosen. The PP has spend $5B and the it's only 55% complete. Also South trinis enjoy the high paying jobs from Atlantic LNG, Petrotrin and all the support companies for these companies which necessitate the highway in the first place. South Trinis have been getting attention long time now.

PNM Public Relations? time to stop, d election done!

please enlighten us as to how much money d last PNM administration under Manning spent and what we got (or didn't get) for it?

i will start:

1. Brian lara (now Tarouba aka white elephant) stadium....$1.5B!

keep it coming...