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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby zoom rader » March 29th, 2015, 10:02 am

eliteauto wrote:lol again you show your stupidity anyone posting more that 2 lines of coherent cogent thought is considered to be beating up, you can't bait me to come down to your level bub, last i checked this is Trinidad and if you wanna cite those other countries I would say yes, because they are more intellectually developed where ability and competence takes precedent over gossip. Keep repeating your mantra, seems you're hoping that if you throw enough mud some will stick, I smell fear, again if the Gov't is doing it's job it would not need to descend to the gutter to win an election, UNC just lost it's 2 Tobago seats


UNC cannot lost what they have never won.

Yes this is Trinidad and it time that trinis improved on their culture and moral standings for achivement on becoming an intellectually developed nation.
Child fadder and mother syndrome have trini in mess.
Rowley is bad example to start with and its not the making of a PM.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby desifemlove » March 29th, 2015, 10:22 am

depends. Mrs. K only does need to get back Chag West (i tink she will, ILP dead) and St.Joseph and dis will hold off PNM a lot.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby RGF Asset Management » March 29th, 2015, 10:24 am

^^^
What is the bad example? That he had a relationship long before he was married that produced a child? That he has by all appearances taken good care of this child over the years? That this child is now a successful young man who has a family of his own and has a good relationship with his other siblings?

Maybe it is true that failed marriages/relationships that include children are not ideal but it is reality not only in T&T but worldwide and i think the more important example is how he (Rowley) has taken responsibility for the child that he has fathered and now has made the best of the situation by fostering a functional relationship with his current wife and children, his first son and even his son's mother.

This is more than we can say for the countless others on the PP bench who have fathered children, discarded children and continue to have children and extra-marital relationships at will. I dont hear you suggesting that they are unfit for office.

This is among the most blatant cases of double standards

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby desifemlove » March 29th, 2015, 10:34 am

rowley never have chile who plannased a doubles man, who never had affairs, and who never had allegations of outside women...

lol.....false holier than thou is kicks.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby De Dragon » March 29th, 2015, 10:53 am

Habit7 wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
Habit7 wrote:Umm many Americans agree with GOP foreign policy. They voted for them overwhelmingly in the House and Senate. Netanyahu won another term. Only silly liberals believe Iran nuclear plan won't eventually evolve to weapons. GOP's letter tells Iran that no matter what they agree on the GOP Congress won't approve.

PP still ain't learn, leader of govt biz Moonilal still going guns blazing and the entire population going to relive this again on the 8th April. This is not what you want to have on an election year. Ppl might forget what happened in 2011, not 2015.

TrinBagonians will forget this by next week, who you feel you fooling? The fact that right wing Americans agree with the GOP is exactly why they felt bold enough. To undermine your own President is Machiavellian, but all part of the cut and thrust, so don't come here and be all outraged when just last week you were advocating "moving on" from Rowley's vulgar comments.

You wish.

Nobody moved on from Kamla vulgar, phallic, deliberate pipe comments. When she tried to rise on her high horse and condemn Dr. Rowley for quoting a Tobagonian, colloquial epitaph, many were ready to reminder her of her platform utterances 15 years ago.

Tobagonians not forgetting this, neither their descendants, neither PNMmites, neither victims of sexual abuse... no one despite your best hope, will forget.

You apparently live in a dream world my friend, this will be forgotten by next week by the majority. It will only live on in the minds of toters like yourself, RASC, and eliteauto, and who I suspect will use every opportunity to remind us as if Trinbagonians vote on these things (or any issues really).
Contrast this with 2013 and emailgate which leveled accusations of attempted murder, perversion of justice, illegal wiretapping etc, against persons with nary a shred of evidence except a sheet of photocopied "email addresses" also laid under the protection of Parliamentary Privilege. Where was your outrage then? Were you so eager to believe that you overlooked the fact that not an iota of credible evidence was offered to support these equally heinous accusations?
I also note that you still cling to your " iz ah colloquialism" explanation for Rowley's vulgarity on the platform, but say what............

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby zoom rader » March 29th, 2015, 11:23 am

RGF Asset Management wrote:^^^
What is the bad example? That he had a relationship long before he was married that produced a child? That he has by all appearances taken good care of this child over the years? That this child is now a successful young man who has a family of his own and has a good relationship with his other siblings?

Maybe it is true that failed marriages/relationships that include children are not ideal but it is reality not only in T&T but worldwide and i think the more important example is how he (Rowley) has taken responsibility for the child that he has fathered and now has made the best of the situation by fostering a functional relationship with his current wife and children, his first son and even his son's mother.

This is more than we can say for the countless others on the PP bench who have fathered children, discarded children and continue to have children and extra-marital relationships at will. I dont hear you suggesting that they are unfit for office.

This is among the most blatant cases of double standards


Maybe you should name these PP minsters that are child fathers and their discarded children so we can take note of them. These ppl should not be in office they have no moral fiber.

I read Margaret Thatcher biography sometime ago where she lost her first election and this was because she was unwed at that time. It was suggested that she got married as the british public dont not trust an unwed lady MP. She did get married and wont her seat when she went up a second time for elections.
Trinis need to take note of these things when voting. Child fathers and mothers should never be put in office as it shows they are unstable and cannot be trusted. The moral fiber for Trinidad is all wrong and it is part reason why we are in a mess.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby RGF Asset Management » March 29th, 2015, 11:47 am

^^^

The fact that you have had a marriage or relationship that has failed does not automatically suggest that you are unstable and not trustworthy. This happens to persons in all echelons of society for a variety of different reasons. Anyone who denies this truth is delusional.

You are attempting to brand an individual on the basis of something that he did more than 40 years ago, that he has taken responsibility for. Perhaps the circumstances surrounding this event were less than perfect but since then, he has gone on to educate himself and elevate himself to where he is today. He has also since married an equally upstanding individual and they have together produced a family that as far as i am aware are all of good standing morally, ethically and otherwise. Even the son has now become a seemingly well adjusted young man and has himself gone on record as saying that he is happy with the relationship that exists between him, his father, his siblings and even his step mother.

Explain to me how this constitutes instability or how this should translate into us not being able to trust this person.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby rfari » March 29th, 2015, 11:58 am

ZR, u have dem fellas running circles around yuh dan.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby Morpheus » March 29th, 2015, 12:55 pm

Like RGF have a whip! LoL

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby zoom rader » March 29th, 2015, 1:40 pm

RGF Asset Management wrote:^^^

The fact that you have had a marriage or relationship that has failed does not automatically suggest that you are unstable and not trustworthy. This happens to persons in all echelons of society for a variety of different reasons. Anyone who denies this truth is delusional.

You are attempting to brand an individual on the basis of something that he did more than 40 years ago, that he has taken responsibility for. Perhaps the circumstances surrounding this event were less than perfect but since then, he has gone on to educate himself and elevate himself to where he is today. He has also since married an equally upstanding individual and they have together produced a family that as far as i am aware are all of good standing morally, ethically and otherwise. Even the son has now become a seemingly well adjusted young man and has himself gone on record as saying that he is happy with the relationship that exists between him, his father, his siblings and even his step mother.

Explain to me how this constitutes instability or how this should translate into us not being able to trust this person.


A married man wanting to aspire to be PM, wining and gyrating on a young lady is not proper and moral protocol. This adds up to a sinister motive and further cannot be trusted, it shows a state of mind.
These actions may seem trivial but it shows the character of the individual.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby The_Honourable » March 29th, 2015, 2:37 pm

What the pnm do Gladiator bai?


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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby j.o.e » March 29th, 2015, 3:02 pm

The_Honourable wrote:What the pnm do Gladiator bai?



Wrong question...how much is he getting paid by the PP?

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby rfari » March 29th, 2015, 3:07 pm

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby K74T » March 29th, 2015, 4:09 pm

2015 turning out to be an exciting year.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby rfari » March 29th, 2015, 8:20 pm

Nice mini documentary on growley on tv6 now
Edit: found on YouTube


How come we dunno from whence kamala came?

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby K74T » March 29th, 2015, 8:31 pm

Hot dayum, Sharon!

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby zoom rader » March 30th, 2015, 1:29 am

rfari wrote:Nice mini documentary on growley on tv6 now
Edit: found on YouTube


How come we dunno from whence kamala came?


Looks like a plup fiction

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby RASC » March 30th, 2015, 7:54 am

rfari wrote:Nice mini documentary on growley on tv6 now
Edit: found on YouTube


How come we dunno from whence kamala came?


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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby Crackpot » March 30th, 2015, 8:24 am

Every accusation levelled at Dr.Rowley by the Gladiator has been comprehensively refuted, what will he say now?

This is an absolute failure of a hatchet-job by the P.P

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby rfari » March 30th, 2015, 8:46 am

RASC wrote:
rfari wrote:Nice mini documentary on growley on tv6 now
Edit: found on YouTube


How come we dunno from whence kamala came?


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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby dougla_boy » March 30th, 2015, 8:55 am

But sharon tho.....yummmmm

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby RGF Asset Management » March 30th, 2015, 9:29 am

zoom rader wrote:
rfari wrote:Nice mini documentary on growley on tv6 now
Edit: found on YouTube


How come we dunno from whence kamala came?


Looks like a plup fiction


Looks legit to me. Looks like a pretty settled, stable and trustworthy guy to me.

But that is just my opinion. ZR obviously is privileged to be able to pass judgement on persons he does not know from some higher moral plane that only he and the PPG exists on.

Must be really cool to be all the way up there

Have a good day my friend.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby Habit7 » March 30th, 2015, 9:45 am

‘Lynching’ in the House
By Raffique Shah
Story Created: Mar 28, 2015 at 7:53 PM ECT
Story Updated: Mar 28, 2015 at 7:53 PM ECT

Desperation bordering on panic pushed the People’s Partnership into the abyss of indecency last Wednesday, which will be recorded as the day the Partnership lost the 2015 general election.
Driven by unbridled greed to hold on to power, hence the Treasury, by any means necessary, the Partnership members, all of them, even those who remained silent, are guilty of gang-raping Parliament, of reducing it to the biggest brothel this side of the Atlantic.
They should hang their heads in shame for allowing Vernella Alleyne-Toppin to abuse parliamentary privilege and engage in vile behaviour.
But then, you must first have shame to feel ashamed. And shame is an emotion that’s sorely lacking among this lot—and I repeat for emphasis, every one of them.

I did not tune in to the debate on a motion that made no sense, so I was unaware of what had taken place in the House. By the evening news, though, when I heard snippets of what Alleyne-Toppin said, I was dumbstruck. I could not believe that this woman was dredging up 60 years of history, and worse, fabricating events (as we would later learn), and calmly reading this putrid sewage into parliamentary records.

I watched the faces of the Prime Minister and other senior Cabinet members: surely, I thought, one of them would intervene, stopping her in her tracks. I watched Speaker Wade Mark to see if he would rescue the Chamber from indignity. He sat in rapt attention, as if he was listening to Shakespearean prose coming from the mouth of a latter-day Portia pleading with Shylock in a Venetian court on behalf of a hapless Antonio, “...The quality of mercy is not strained...”
But there was no mercy in Mark’s court. There was a parliamentary lynching in progress. They were flogging Keith Rowley to death—or so they thought.

It mattered not that Alleyne-Toppin was prefacing her poison with “this is a true story” rather than “once upon a time” as all fables should start. Every member who sat in the House that day is guilty of condoning if not participating in lynching a man for crimes he did not commit.
To suggest that Rowley the man was the product of the rape of his mother, as is now recorded in Hansard, is a crime against his deceased parents that is unforgivable. To imply that he raped a young woman, a criminal act that resulted in the birth of an unwanted son, something we now know was the figment of Alleyne-Toppin’s diseased imagination is, well, unimaginable.
But she said it all under cover of parliamentary privilege, and not one of her colleagues has disassociated himself or herself from it. In fact, a few of them apologised to victims of rape, not to the victim of Alleyne-Toppin’s lies. Hell, not even Tim Gopeesingh, who admitted to having a cutlass-wielding, planass-administering son, had the decency to commiserate with Rowley.
Based on their silence, or worse, their call for Rowley to answer questions that were never posed (Alleyne-Toppin made what she said were statements of fact), we can safely assume that none of them had affairs outside their marriages or “outside” children; that the women MPs, in biblical terms, know only their husbands; and that they are all paragons of virtue, people who never sinned in the eyes of God or man.

In which case I can proclaim myself an angel with heavenly wings and halo: yeah, right!
I don’t know if the PP-ers understand how they are blowing whatever little hope they had of being re-elected to power. Every week, almost ritually, they are shooting themselves in the foot, in the face, all over. If it’s not a minister or activist misappropriating funds, or cussing “afro trini”, it’s paying and bussing supporters to rally around the coalition because “de borse tell we to come here”. How embarrassing.

Or driven by pure hate, its campaign strategists, activists and ministers, seeking to destroy Rowley, end up saying or doing things that make the man a martyr. In fact, it seems that the PNM can halt costly campaigning in which they cannot compete with the Partnership, and prod the Partnership into making mistakes by the minute and missteps by the mile.
In one fell swoop last week, Alleyne-Toppin turned off thousands of thinking people in constituencies that matter most for the Partnership. Outrage poured from the conventional and social media, with people so disgusted by the woman’s crassness and her colleagues’ insensitivity, they are openly withdrawing support. Only the sycophants remained anchored.
Now that Rowley’s son and the man’s mother have exposed Alleyne-Toppin as being a stranger to the truth and all but endorsed the father as being a good man, the PNM leader could not ask for a better or more timely endorsement.

The Partnership’s motion of no confidence in Rowley has backfired in their faces. Let’s see what next they will do to alienate voters. They seem to be working hard to lose the election.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby zoom rader » March 30th, 2015, 9:48 am

^^i^^



<<<<< Hmm Lynching

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Postby shogun » March 31st, 2015, 7:29 pm

Raffique Shah wrote:I watched the faces of the Prime Minister and other senior Cabinet members: surely, I thought, one of them would intervene, stopping her in her tracks. I watched Speaker Wade Mark to see if he would rescue the Chamber from indignity. He sat in rapt attention, as if he was listening to Shakespearean prose coming from the mouth of a latter-day Portia pleading with Shylock in a Venetian court on behalf of a hapless Antonio, “...The quality of mercy is not strained...”
But there was no mercy in Mark’s court. There was a parliamentary lynching in progress. They were flogging Keith Rowley to death—or so they thought.


That.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby rfari » March 31st, 2015, 7:35 pm

This hereditary rape accusation toppin make starting to look like this in the cabinet

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby megadoc1 » March 31st, 2015, 9:04 pm

strange that the folks at talk 91.1 FM still thinks Rowley needs to answerToppin's questions

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Postby Habit7 » March 31st, 2015, 11:15 pm

megadoc1 wrote:strange that the folks at talk 91.1 FM still thinks Rowley needs to answerToppin's questions

It's sad to hear the sheep still calling in the radio and pleading the case that Dr. Rowley is a result of rape and that disqualifies him from being PM. Also that although he was part of a 4 man gang rape, the child is his and VAT is a champion of women' rights and the welfare of rape victims. Sigh.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby De Dragon » March 31st, 2015, 11:24 pm

Habit7 wrote:
megadoc1 wrote:strange that the folks at talk 91.1 FM still thinks Rowley needs to answerToppin's questions

It's sad to hear the sheep still calling in the radio and pleading the case that Dr. Rowley is a result of rape and that disqualifies him from being PM. Also that although he was part of a 4 man gang rape, the child is his and VAT is a champion of women' rights and the welfare of rape victims. Sigh.

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