ISIS in T&T?

[pioneer]

Wait wait Imran Hosein denounce ISIS?


What?

[pioneer]

And on second look those vids a little too perfect and well edited.

Fake?

[Ziyaad]

I don't know if it's fake, but it seemed to have depicted an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Just my opinion.

[pioneer]

^^^ISIS

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

I don't know if it's fake, but it seemed to have depicted an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Just my opinion.

so in your opinion it is justified?

[src1983]

That was the most disturbing thing I ever saw....

Thing is these a$$holes pass themselves as Islamist but then go on camera to kill a man is the worst possible way. Is this what they view Islam to be?

[src1983]

I don't know if it's fake, but it seemed to have depicted an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Just my opinion.

Is this an Islam teaching??

[sMASH]

Wait wait Imran Hosein denounce ISIS?


What?

More or less repeatedly since mid last year. while isis was now comming into the news, and people here were seeing them as the force fighting against assad, and wanting to join them, imran was seeing them as anti Islamic and commented. Many lectures he did last year denounced isis, and posted them as an American device.

But I too saw that they weren't acting islamically, and eventually we got to see what they do.

[bluesclues]

when last allyuh hear from adamb? he went and join isis awah?

[sMASH]

Isis seems to be another machination of America

I even spoke to a guy who has communications to taliban, who says that they are working on a coordinated effort against isis.

but considering this happened a few weeks ago http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2014 ... 94184.html

Two things u Hadda remember.

THe groups of fighters aren't well organized, coordinated, or even unified for that matter. They tend to be ordinary people who desires tend to be the same, but unlike trinis, they have real world problems, and still unlike trinis, they have belly to do ting.

The bigger the group, the less homogenized is their goal. Sometimes sections act on their own accord.

Just look how well structured our government is wiht written and vetted law and procedure, and still how in dissarray its goingson tend to be.

The second is that, I didn't tout those groups as saviours and any one of them as epitome of justice and freedom.
Some are better than others, some just better than isis.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Isis seems to be another machination of America

I even spoke to a guy who has communications to taliban, who says that they are working on a coordinated effort against isis.

but considering this happened a few weeks ago http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2014 ... 94184.html

Two things u Hadda remember.

THe groups of fighters aren't well organized, coordinated, or even unified for that matter. They tend to be ordinary people who desires tend to be the same, but unlike trinis, they have real world problems, and still unlike trinis, they have belly to do ting.

The bigger the group, the less homogenized is their goal. Sometimes sections act on their own accord.

Just look how well structured our government is wiht written and vetted law and procedure, and still how in dissarray its goingson tend to be.

in any democracy there is due process.

I don't think ISIS or the Taliban are democratic and debate and vote on which actions to take.

If a rogue group carries out an act and claim it for ISIS I am sure that the real ISIS leaders will deal with them in a way that will discourage anyone from carrying out personal vendettas and claiming it as ISIS.

The second is that, I didn't tout those groups as saviours and any one of them as epitome of justice and freedom.
Some are better than others, some just better than isis.

the lesser of two evils?

[sMASH]

^^ at this moment.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

I don't know if it's fake, but it seemed to have depicted an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Just my opinion.

so in your opinion it is justified?

this was posted by CNN after an interview by Christiane Amanpour

[_Kingfish_]

^^^^
Correct, Muslims are strictly forbidden from killing with fire.

While growing up i was about to burn down a huge wasp nest(thing was like 1foot long), pops caught me before i did, and explained that fire is a form of punishment reserved for Allah alone(hellfire)..... Imagine I wont burn some wasps, these crackers just burnt a human, and are claiming to be Muslim???

These ISIS people are not following Islam........ Blame ISIS condemn ISIS all you want, they have nothing to do with Islam or Muslims.

DO NOT hold over a BILLION people responsible for the actions of a few.

[pioneer]

Can't believe not many people questioning the validity of that vid.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

These ISIS people are not following Islam........ Blame ISIS condemn ISIS all you want, they have nothing to do with Islam or Muslims.

DO NOT hold over a BILLION people responsible for the actions of a few.

agreed.

but they are doing more harm to Islam than the people holding Islam responsible.

With this gross misrepresentation of Islam, why isn't there a fatwah on Al-Bhagdadi's (leader of ISIS) head?

[RBphoto]

^^^^
Correct, Muslims are strictly forbidden from killing with fire.

While growing up i was about to burn down a huge wasp nest(thing was like 1foot long), pops caught me before i did, and explained that fire is a form of punishment reserved for Allah alone(hellfire)..... Imagine I wont burn some wasps, these crackers just burnt a human, and are claiming to be Muslim???

These ISIS people are not following Islam........ Blame ISIS condemn ISIS all you want, they have nothing to do with Islam or Muslims.

DO NOT hold over a BILLION people responsible for the actions of a few.

BS. Same way Fox News and the religious right in America refused to believe the guy from Norway was a Christian. Who are you to say they are not Muslim? Last time I checked they reading the same book and following the same Allah as you.

[pugboy]

Killing a prisoner by fire is a moot point,
Does it make killing by beheading better?

[src1983]

Killing a prisoner by fire is a moot point,
Does it make killing by beheading better?

Beheading is instant death to the individual, Lighting a man on fire is torturous to the individual

[shotta 20]

Killing a prisoner by fire is a moot point,
Does it make killing by beheading better?

Beheading is instant death to the individual, Lighting a man on fire is torturous to the individual

Not the way those militants use a knife to saw human necks iff.

[shogun]

Killing a prisoner by fire is a moot point,
Does it make killing by beheading better?

Beheading is instant death to the individual, Lighting a man on fire is torturous to the individual

Not the way those militants use a knife to saw human necks iff.

Beat me to it.

ISIS does it Daniel Pearl style. Even worse, if that was at all possible.

[pugboy]

So killng ok, just use a quick method

[shogun]

So killng ok, just use a quick method

ISIS does it Daniel Pearl style. Even worse, if that was at all possible.

[src1983]

So killng ok, just use a quick method

Where did I say that??

[shotta 20]

Anyways, I applaud the king of Jordan for the stance he has now taken in the fight against Isis.
King is def showing some balls

[pugboy]

Yeah, finally somebody from the region doing something and not waiting on the west

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

BS. Same way Fox News and the religious right in America refused to believe the guy from Norway was a Christian. Who are you to say they are not Muslim? Last time I checked they reading the same book and following the same Allah as you.

the guy from Norway carried out his acts in the name of Christianity? Or he just happened to be a Christian?

[shogun]

Yeah, finally somebody from the region doing something and not waiting on the west

Damned if you do...

BTW, US fighters were giving cover to the Royal Jordanian Air Force.

Obama took the road less traveled. It took more patience but to me it was the only option. Let the people of the region realize that ISIS wasn't/isn't only a threat to the west and shift the perception that this was just another western assault on Islam.


King Badass II



Jordan's King Abdullah II.

[RBphoto]

BS. Same way Fox News and the religious right in America refused to believe the guy from Norway was a Christian. Who are you to say they are not Muslim? Last time I checked they reading the same book and following the same Allah as you.

the guy from Norway carried out his acts in the name of Christianity? Or he just happened to be a Christian?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Beh ... ristianity

He was a so-so christian, but the fact remains he had a religious agenda. That is secondary though. There are people who want say he was not christian, because a christian would not do those things. Just as muslims would distance themselves from ISIS, by claiming that ISIS fighters are not Muslim. I am not talking about fanaticism or motives in that post.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

BS. Same way Fox News and the religious right in America refused to believe the guy from Norway was a Christian. Who are you to say they are not Muslim? Last time I checked they reading the same book and following the same Allah as you.

the guy from Norway carried out his acts in the name of Christianity? Or he just happened to be a Christian?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Beh ... ristianity

He was a so-so christian, but the fact remains he had a religious agenda. That is secondary though. There are people who want say he was not christian, because a christian would not do those things. Just as muslims would distance themselves from ISIS, by claiming that ISIS fighters are not Muslim. I am not talking about fanaticism or motives in that post.

in that link it states: "His manifesto states "I'm not going to pretend I'm a very religious person, as that would be a lie", calls religion a crutch and a source for drawing mental strength, and says "I've always been very pragmatic and influenced by my secular surroundings and environment." Regarding the term cultural Christian, which he says means preserving European culture, he notes, "It is enough that you are a Christian-agnostic or a Christian-atheist (an atheist who wants to preserve at least the basics of the European Christian cultural legacy...)" Furthermore, Breivik stated that "myself and many more like me do not necessarily have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God." Nevertheless, he stated that he planned to pray to God seeking for his help during his attacks."