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Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby b14inb12 » February 1st, 2015, 8:57 am

do we have gate safety legislation ?
cause this is having once to often


A toddler of Bamboo Village, Valsayn, has died after a steel gate fell on him at his home on Friday night. According to a police report, around 7 pm, computer technician Ishwar Rampaul, 37, was at his John Drive, Bamboo No 3 home, attempting to fix his sliding front gate which had stuck in its tracks.

Rampaul had just sprayed it with WD40 and was pulling and pushing it in a bid to loosen the wheels. His two-year-old son, Adam Alejandro Rampaul, on realising that his father was outside the gate ran out of the house to meet him. As the child ran up to the gate it came tumbling down on him. His mother, Lisa Munglasingh, 35, did not reach in time to get him out of harm’s way and she was struck by the gate as she attempted to protect him. She suffered a broken left leg.

Both Mungalsingh and her son were taken to the Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex, where Adam was pronounced dead on arrival. Little Adam was born with a hole in the heart and his medical condition was highlighted in the Sunday Guardian on September 28, 2014. His parents were raising funds for years to have the child flown to the United States for a cardiac catherisation procedure.

Open heart surgery was also an option, however Munglasingh said they chose for the child to undergo catherisation closure because it involved less trauma and a quicker healing time for her son. In December 2014, he was taken to Miami for medical screening and treatment at a paediatric hospital. When Sunday Guardian visted Rampaul and his wife yesterday, they were seen consoling each other in the garage area of their home. Relatives were also seen sitting around in silence.

Munglasingh said her husband came home from work about 6.30 pm and was opening the gate when it stuck. She said for about half an hour he was outside struggling with the gate. “Adam would go crazy for his daddy, so I had to keep him inside. I placed two boards blocking the doorway outside so that Adam wouldn’t run out to meet his daddy but when he (Adam) realised his dad was outside, he ran to the back of the house through the kitchen.

“He was so fast I couldn’t catch up with him, so I had to run through the front door. By this time, Adam had already reached to the front and was running towards the gate and that was when I darted out and almost grab him, but the gate had already started to fall. It was too late.” “It happened so quick. We were just in shock and still in shock.”

Rampaul, in tears, said he believed his only child, Adam, was God-sent. “Adam was a peaceful yet joyous child. He greeted everyone with a smile. He brought happiness to our lives.” An autospy is expected to be conducted at the Forensic Science Centre in St James tomorrow. Funeral arrangements are yet to be made.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-02- ... lling-gate

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby b14inb12 » February 1st, 2015, 9:02 am

In August last year seven-year-old Adita Roopchand was killed after a metal gate fell on top of her at her Freeport home and in February 2013, Zuri Singh, 3, of Railway Road, Dow Village, died after his skull was crushed by a falling gate.

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby cornfused » February 1st, 2015, 9:07 am

2 last year and 1st this year . This should not be a tragedy any family should have to face . Huge or long rolling gate call for larger wheels , more acute angle on the track where possible and guides to the gate on both sides of the gap or drive way , solid connection to a solid post.

I am not a metal fabricator but it is clear that there a many quacks doing unprofessional works that put up weak and dangerous structures . Welders that may never have passed through MIC ?

One way is to certify processional and grant them a license to operate another is to have inspections done .

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby Team Loco » February 1st, 2015, 10:22 am

we only know of two last year that made the news. i personally know of two more that didnt. over the last two years it was about 6-7 kids died. this is ridiculous. something needs to be done urgently

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby greggle71 » February 1st, 2015, 10:32 am

I am ok with regulations. What factors or criteria should form those requirements though?

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby nervewrecker » February 1st, 2015, 10:33 am

My aunt gate fell on my sister too.

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby DVSTT » February 1st, 2015, 10:45 am

greggle71 wrote:I am ok with regulations. What factors or criteria should form those requirements though?


What constitutes a "safe" gate?

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby greggle71 » February 1st, 2015, 10:46 am

DVSTT wrote:
greggle71 wrote:I am ok with regulations. What factors or criteria should form those requirements though?


What constitutes a "safe" gate?


That's my question as well

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby nervewrecker » February 1st, 2015, 11:02 am

Sister didn't die btw. Was actually kinda funny

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby pugboy » February 1st, 2015, 11:03 am

slide gates usually have a piece of angle iron which acts as a guide, with either
a roller or a piece of angle on the wall posts which keeps it upright

from what I have seen, it would appear that a child standing and pulling on the vertical
could rock the bottom off the track and the gate would slide out perpendicular to the track
whilst the angle would just slip out from the roller guide
they need to position the angle so it cant and the guide has to be strong to hold against pivoting action of human pulling gate

a safer gate would have the guide on a post on the inner side(non-road) of the gate
this way the gate is sandwiched between the wall post and guide support post.

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby b14inb12 » February 1st, 2015, 11:09 am

it have a lot of information online on gate safety but can it work here in Trinidad
why pay so much for a gate and over look the safety aspect of it.

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby hustla_ambition101 » February 1st, 2015, 11:50 am

b14inb12 wrote:it have a lot of information online on gate safety but can it work here in Trinidad
why pay so much for a gate and over look the safety aspect of it.


Safety doh matter once it pretty up

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby pioneer » February 1st, 2015, 12:09 pm

Imagine gates killed more people than pitbulls in that last year.

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby INHUMAN » February 1st, 2015, 12:27 pm

Child was suffering...gate killed him..god has a purpose!

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby shogun » February 1st, 2015, 12:49 pm

Gate safety regulation sounds a lil ridiculous. There are many things on a structure/house/home that if poorly constructed could cause injury/death. Someone should definitely look in to the use of these particular types of gates though, it's not the first complaint i've heard a bout them.

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby pioneer » February 1st, 2015, 1:07 pm

Trinis just too cheap to fork out the cash on a proper build.

That goes for any and everything.

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby desifemlove » February 1st, 2015, 1:25 pm

Legislation?

Or shitty parenting?

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby De Dragon » February 1st, 2015, 1:42 pm

shogun wrote:Gate safety regulation sounds a lil ridiculous. There are many things on a structure/house/home that if poorly constructed could cause injury/death. Someone should definitely look in to the use of these particular types of gates though, it's not the first complaint i've heard a bout them.

EH????

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby j.o.e » February 1st, 2015, 1:42 pm

Sufferers should stick to conventional swing gates..fed up see big tall gates with poor workmanship run on a single rail at the base with no guides

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby desifemlove » February 1st, 2015, 1:48 pm

How would this law be regulated?

and shouldnt parents keep dey chirren away from a big gate? What does a twoyear old know to keep away?

Typical trini attitude...govt do everyting, no self-responsibility...next iz kamla shoukd cook yuh dinners, mow yuh lawns, and wash yuh car..

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby shogun » February 1st, 2015, 2:00 pm

De Dragon wrote:
shogun wrote:Gate safety regulation sounds a lil ridiculous. There are many things on a structure/house/home that if poorly constructed could cause injury/death. Someone should definitely look in to the use of these particular types of gates though, it's not the first complaint i've heard a bout them.

EH????



qué?

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby pioneer » February 1st, 2015, 2:01 pm

Dangerous Human Bill 2015

Hope Anand get his sheep to bun in de hotsun to support his case.

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby shogun » February 1st, 2015, 2:01 pm

j.o.e wrote:Sufferers should stick to conventional swing gates..


That.

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby DVSTT » February 1st, 2015, 3:57 pm

pugboy wrote:slide gates usually have a piece of angle iron which acts as a guide, with either
a roller or a piece of angle on the wall posts which keeps it upright

from what I have seen, it would appear that a child standing and pulling on the vertical
could rock the bottom off the track and the gate would slide out perpendicular to the track
whilst the angle would just slip out from the roller guide
they need to position the angle so it cant and the guide has to be strong to hold against pivoting action of human pulling gate

a safer gate would have the guide on a post on the inner side(non-road) of the gate
this way the gate is sandwiched between the wall post and guide support post.


That's how our gate is designed and it's had 2 rottweilers rattling it daily for the past 9 years with out ever falling. I thought this design was common sense though.

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » February 1st, 2015, 5:45 pm

You do not need to have a degree in Civil Engineering to design a sliding gate that does not fall over.

You should at bare minimum have knowledge of a chimpanzee.

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby DVSTT » February 1st, 2015, 5:48 pm

At the end of the day, a young life was lost. RIP.

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » February 1st, 2015, 6:04 pm

even if there was a law that had requirements on how a sliding gate should be made, what makes you all think that anyone going to enforce this law.

Just yesterday a woman walking with her child in the stroller on the payvement, car was parked on the payvement so she had to go in the middle of the busy road to pass. A concerned citizen mentioned it to the police and absolutely nothing was done they just drive off normal normal after collecting their KFC.

So what make allyuh think they going after people who build a half assed 5th world gate?
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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby De Dragon » February 1st, 2015, 6:04 pm

shogun wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
shogun wrote:Gate safety regulation sounds a lil ridiculous. There are many things on a structure/house/home that if poorly constructed could cause injury/death. Someone should definitely look in to the use of these particular types of gates though, it's not the first complaint i've heard a bout them.

EH????



qué?

I wasn't sure whether you were pro or anti legislation...still not actually.

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby tourniquet » February 1st, 2015, 7:01 pm

saw this on the papers and just shook my head; unnecessary death was unnecessary. With falling down gates, leaving children in cars unattended, and allowing children to play musical chairs in moving vehicles, I really do feel sorry for these kids.
Enact a gate legislation and morons will manage to find new ways to involuntarily kill their kids.
In our typical 10 days memory/ dat cah happen to my chile, this incident will more than likely be forgotten before Marshall Monday, and something similar will probably happen again :/

R.I.P. little one :angel:

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Re: Gate Safety Legislation///// boy killed by falling gate

Postby Spitfir3 » February 1st, 2015, 8:54 pm

ban all dem gate dem thing doh care bout nobody

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