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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby Redman » December 30th, 2014, 7:38 am

Nothing justifies their behavior....
Nothing can explain their actions..cept arrogant stupidity.

both should be fired.

but then again...Reyes is head of Professional Standards ...not so?

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby ronsin1 » December 30th, 2014, 7:48 am

http://www4.guardian.co.tt/news/2014-12 ... sabled-man

Mixed views after viral video shows officers beating disabled man

While two Special Reserve Police officers are being investigated for assaulting a wheelchair-bound man in San Fernando, those who witnessed the incident are supporting the officers’ actions.

Workers along lower High Street told the T&T Guardian that around 4 pm Saturday, the man was begging for money and hurling disrespectful and racist remarks to passers-by before he was pushed and slapped by male and female officers assigned to the Rapid Response Unit (RRU) at the Mon Repos Police Station.

Snr Supt Cecil Santana said an investigation was launched after a video of the incident was posted on Facebook. Up to yesterday, both officers remained on the job, while the man, who has an address in Gasparillo, was yet to be interviewed and has not reported the incident.

“The two officers have been identified and an investigation has been launched by the Professional Standards Bureau on instructions from the acting Commissioner of Police, Stephen Williams. We are treating it seriously and we can assure that no stone will be left unturned and the appropriate action will be taken,” Santana said.

Lennox Andrews, a shoe repairman, recalled the incident.
“Police did not advantage him. He looked for that.”


Andrews said that after noticing the man disrespecting female workers of Chicken Unlimited, a nearby restaurant, he tried to calm the man, but he too began receiving insults.

He said the same man was also slapped by a pedestrian earlier in the day for insulting someone.
"He was on his wheelchair begging for money and people were giving it to him. He started being disrespectful. Those girls at Chicken Unlimited gave him money and he was pelting it back at them. When the police came, he called them names and he spat on them.


“I even talked to him before and told him to behave himself. He was drunk. He started calling me names too. I didn't want to get myself into trouble so I walked off,” Andrews said.

Staff at Chicken Unlimited confirmed the incident, saying they were throwing out garbage when the man asked for fish broth and threw money at them.

One worker said: “He shouted, ‘Hello, hello, Miss Lady, it have fish broth?’ We told him no, it finished and he start throwing money at us and telling us all kinds of things. There were police at the bottom of High Street and they came up.”

Dave Fairley, who works at a nearby clothing store, said the man in the wheelchair was being rude to passers-by as well.

“I asked him why he was getting on so and he started to tell me all kinds of things too,” Fairley said.
Police Association: Stay professional
Whether or not the victim was wrong, the officers should have maintained their professionalism, secretary of the Police Social Welfare Association Insp Michael Seales said yesterday.

Seales said the association welcomed an investigation, but hopes that all factors would be considered.

Seales said: “The association will always be mindful that an investigation will reveal all the facts. A policeman or police woman do not have the luxury of acting unprofessionally regardless of the circumstances they are faced with.

“It may be negative or undesirable, but at the end of the day, they must maintain professionalism even though a person may be breaking the law. You are not allowed to strike out at that person. Even if you have to strike out at the person, the law provides for you to use a baton, that way you are covered, but for you to use an open hand and slap a person or use a fist to cuff someone, it is a no-no.”

Seales said the video has already shown the officers in “bad light” as the man was in a wheel chair. He said the man could have been mentally challenged as well.

He reminded officers of their sworn oath to act without malice, ill-will or favour and urged them to guard against their emotions clouding their judgment.

Seales said the man could have been arrested and charged as spitting is considered as battery and insulting language was against the law.

Mayor saddened
San Fernando mayor Kazim Hosein said this council was saddened after watching the video, but called on citizens not to let the isolated incident affect their relationship with police.

In a release yesterday, Hosein said, “The police are there to protect and to serve. It will be reasonable if that protection from violence and crime be expected from all police officers. This isolated and unfortunate incident needs to be further investigated, especially when any officer appears to treat any citizen in a manner in which they should not, as we have been seeing in other parts of the world today.

“We are grateful for the hard work of the many disciplined police officers and are urging all officers to continue engaging in best practice in carrying out their duties.”
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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » December 30th, 2014, 7:50 am

is SRPs....home time for them...

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby kjaglal76v2 » December 30th, 2014, 7:59 am

Based on that story its safe to say the officers were protecting & serving members of the afflicted public

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby simplejack » December 30th, 2014, 8:01 am

Disturbing part is they did this while someone was recording, or in public where more people could be recording the scenario. The thought of what they would or could do when someone isn't recording is another story.

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby K74T » December 30th, 2014, 8:16 am

Check how men go backpedal now

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby pioneer » December 30th, 2014, 8:20 am

If it was so "wrong" how come the persons in the area didn't start a protest?

Did the man make a report?

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby zoom rader » December 30th, 2014, 8:25 am

Seems the wheelchair guy has some sort of mental health problems. All too the Popo are just as disturbed as him and dont know to deal with ppl in this state.

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby trini mk5 » December 30th, 2014, 8:34 am

And yet still...slapping up the man is not how you deal with the situation. It has made things worse.

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby Fearless » December 30th, 2014, 8:37 am

zoom rader wrote:Seems the wheelchair guy has some sort of mental health problems. All too the Popo are just as disturbed as him and dont know to deal with ppl in this state.

Had enough sense to come back up the road though? or as the illiterate cameraman say "drive back up the road"

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby Mark! » December 30th, 2014, 8:38 am

Camera man issa chunt. Shouldnt have give these low lifes cars, cameras or phones.
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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby zoom rader » December 30th, 2014, 8:38 am

trini mk5 wrote:And yet still...slapping up the man is not how you deal with the situation. It has made things worse.


Yep thats why I said the popo is just as disturbed as the wheelchair guy. Some Trinis tote around anger and thats how some deal with their issues.

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby j.o.e » December 30th, 2014, 8:40 am

Still wanna learn the police slap... that have to be part of training. The delivery different... slap so fast the person don't even rock. Perfect connect with palm of of hand ...long back swing, slight follow thru. Rotation from the shoulder with inflection at the elbow

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby kjaglal76v2 » December 30th, 2014, 9:07 am

Its taught in the barracks

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby TRAE » December 30th, 2014, 9:15 am

i am trying to understand how the po po does manage these people- clearly that guy has issues he need to work out

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby Cantmis » December 30th, 2014, 9:39 am

Pio is that you ?
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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby 88sins » December 30th, 2014, 9:42 am

pioneer wrote:
he got off easy if you ask me.

it's a good thing nobody asked you then :lol:

pioneer wrote:A lil clout is not abuse

Quite correct, it's not abuse. It's assault.

They should have arrested him & charged him with using obscene language, obstruction of traffic, or whatever charge that could've been deemed suitable. Physically assaulting a person that shows no aggression, handicapped or otherwise, is simply a display of very poor judgment & conduct.

Occifer Doubles need to be discharged, & then charged. He has done a grave disservice to the TTPS.
P.R. between the TTPS & J. Public hasn't been the best in recent times, & that jackass sure as sheit didn't help to improve it any

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby Slartibartfast » December 30th, 2014, 10:22 am

At the end of the day one does not need qualifications to be in a wheelchair or stand behind a camera (see facebook for proof).

However, one would think that the following would be included in the qualifications/abilities/attributes required to be employed as an officer meant to promote justice and uphold the law
- Of sound mind and character (i.e. no anger issues or abusive tendencies)
- Ability to make good judgement calls in a high pressure and fast paced environment
- Ability to diffuse high tension situation to avoid altercations
- Beyond basic literacy
- A good understanding of the law (including their duties and jurisdiction as an officer)
- Ethics (they should possess some level of want to make lives better for the ones they serve)

So I will blame the officers and only the officers as they were the ones in charge of the situation. It doesn't matter how much cuss he man cuss. They could handcuff his wheel to a post on the pavement or something until he cool down.

I agree the man with the camera is a real fool but sadly being an idiot is not illegal. And you want to be real careful the precedent you set with censorship before you say that the police should be able to slap him and take his camera. However, if they ignored him or handled the situation properly there would be nothing interesting to see and he would just delete the WOFT vid off his phone anyway.

ronsin1 wrote:“I asked him why he was getting on so and he started to tell me all kinds of things too,” Fairley said.
Police Association: Stay professional
Whether or not the victim was wrong, the officers should have maintained their professionalism, secretary of the Police Social Welfare Association Insp Michael Seales said yesterday.

Seales said the association welcomed an investigation, but hopes that all factors would be considered.

Seales said: “The association will always be mindful that an investigation will reveal all the facts. A policeman or police woman do not have the luxury of acting unprofessionally regardless of the circumstances they are faced with.

“It may be negative or undesirable, but at the end of the day, they must maintain professionalism even though a person may be breaking the law. You are not allowed to strike out at that person. Even if you have to strike out at the person, the law provides for you to use a baton, that way you are covered, but for you to use an open hand and slap a person or use a fist to cuff someone, it is a no-no.”

Seales said the video has already shown the officers in “bad light” as the man was in a wheel chair. He said the man could have been mentally challenged as well.

He reminded officers of their sworn oath to act without malice, ill-will or favour and urged them to guard against their emotions clouding their judgment.

Seales said the man could have been arrested and charged as spitting is considered as battery and insulting language was against the law.
This basically sums up my views on the situation.

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby redrum » December 30th, 2014, 11:48 am

To "protect and serve," by causing further harm by pushing wheel chair victim onto traffic by female officer. Use of obscene language and alleged spitting gives an officer the right to slap someone, especially a disabled person who was released from hospital and seems to be disoriented. So, all yuh justification is if a challenged person use obscene language towards us, warrants a slap....
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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby pioneer » December 30th, 2014, 12:21 pm

lol ya'll so thin-skinned now?

This is what society has come to?...a buncha puzzies who can't handle seeing a man get ah lil clout?

Ya'll sensitive?

Our forefathers went through worse abuse. Time to man up and move on.

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby tourniquet » December 30th, 2014, 12:29 pm

I think we all learnt something from this.
















I learnt that Chicken Unlimited is still around, holy fluck :shock:

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » December 30th, 2014, 12:33 pm

This trini man get small licks compared to this one in California. TTPS actually soft compared to American cops


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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby *$kїđž!™ » December 30th, 2014, 1:47 pm

should have arrested him instead of the beat up in public.....

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby streetbeastINC. » December 30th, 2014, 1:55 pm

World becoming a police state.

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby hustla_ambition101 » December 30th, 2014, 1:57 pm

Plain clothes srp want to play ranking thing.....whatever happened to d good old arrest and licks in d station

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby pugboy » December 30th, 2014, 2:40 pm

This is where tasers are the solution, one shock and he woulda stop cussing
No slaps required

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby playerskrew » December 30th, 2014, 3:00 pm

GixxerMan wrote:to protect and slap

TO PUSH AN SLAP

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby black start » December 30th, 2014, 3:34 pm

Curtms wrote:Pio is that you ?
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Didnt kno nats on fb too :lol:

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby Spitfir3 » December 30th, 2014, 3:47 pm

for whatever sheit the senile handicapped man did its good that this story came to light because do we really want to be ruled by officers who think they can "swing their hands" as they please?

these officers need to learn when to use force and most of all learn how to control their emotions because most of them are walking time bombs and you might get slap dong for asking a man the time

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Re: Trini PoPo Abusing Disabled Man

Postby mragoobir » December 30th, 2014, 3:55 pm

D day any POPO slap me like that!! He will flag down maxi with he elbow!

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