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Fake Tomei and SARD fuel pressure regulators

Postby Dennis61 » November 5th, 2014, 1:01 pm

Look out for these pieces of trash. Might as well buy a no-name fpr than these pieces of junk. Click the links for a comparison between the genuine and counterfeit fuel pressure regulators.

http://www.tomeipowered.com/BTE/index.p ... egulators/

http://www.sard.co.jp/after_eng/product ... reted.html

Both counterfeit Sard and tomei fuel pressure regulators are offered WITH pressure guages.

The genuine products are NOT offered with guages.
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Re: Fake Tomei and SARD fuel pressure regulators

Postby Ignorant Ignis » November 6th, 2014, 10:10 am

this along with tons of fake apexi and hks turbo timers ..... and sold right here on tuner too

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Re: Fake Tomei and SARD fuel pressure regulators

Postby Dennis61 » November 6th, 2014, 2:26 pm

And they selling them as genuine too

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Re: Fake Tomei and SARD fuel pressure regulators

Postby supercharged turbo » November 7th, 2014, 12:28 pm

Don't forget the Ray's lugnuts

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Re: Fake Tomei and SARD fuel pressure regulators

Postby skylinechild » November 7th, 2014, 9:27 pm

all this talk of who selling fake and such does not help the consumer. either start calling name and have your proof to back it up or make a report to consumer affairs - and get the ball rolling.

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Re: Fake Tomei and SARD fuel pressure regulators

Postby Dennis61 » November 7th, 2014, 9:44 pm

It have no name to call or proof to show, just be aware

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Postby GT RACING » November 10th, 2014, 9:54 am

skylinechild wrote:all this talk of who selling fake and such does not help the consumer. either start calling name and have your proof to back it up or make a report to consumer affairs - and get the ball rolling.



X2

I already posted pictures of the FAKE Apexi Turbo Timers and how you can tell the difference between them. Take a look below.

A'PEXi has released a list that offers several ways to determine if the Auto Turbo Timer is a fake or the real deal. Points 1, 9 and 10 are the most effective ways to determine if the product is real or not.
1. Case Thickness - Genuine A'PEXi Auto Turbo Timer cases have a thickness of 3/8 inches at the display area. Counterfeit ones have a thickness of 7/8 inches.
2. Wiring Harness - The genuine harness has red dots along the black, white and grey wires. The counterfeit harness does not.
3. Parts List - Genuine A'PEXi Auto Timer contains all the items listed on the parts list. The counterfeit units are missing zip ties, double-sided tape, splices and electro-taps.
4. Serial Numbers - Genuine A'PEXi Auto Timers have a serial number on the black relay box. The counterfeit Turbo Timers do not.
5. Package Height - The clear plastic box on the genuine Auto Timer is three inches tall. The counterfeit Auto Timer's package is only 2.5 inches tall.
6. Package Opening - The clear plastic box of the genuine Auto Timer opens on the sides, whereas the counterfeit Auto Timer opens on the front and back.
7. Display - On the genuine A'PEXi Auto Timer the red LED display is visibly red when powered off. On the counterfeit Turbo Timer, the display is not red when off.
8. Display Film - A genuine A'PEXi Auto Timer has no film on the display. The counterfeit Turbo Timer has a clear poly-film affixed to the display.
9. A/F Monitor - On the counterfeit Turbo Timer, the A/F function does not work. It reads 14.6 all the time.
10. Parking Brake Safety - On the counterfeit Auto Timer, the Parking Brake Safety Function does not work. If you release the handbrake, the engine will continue to idle.

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Re: Fake Tomei and SARD fuel pressure regulators

Postby skylinechild » November 10th, 2014, 3:27 pm

GT RACING wrote:
skylinechild wrote:all this talk of who selling fake and such does not help the consumer. either start calling name and have your proof to back it up or make a report to consumer affairs - and get the ball rolling.



X2

I already posted pictures of the FAKE Apexi Turbo Timers and how you can tell the difference between them. Take a look below.

A'PEXi has released a list that offers several ways to determine if the Auto Turbo Timer is a fake or the real deal. Points 1, 9 and 10 are the most effective ways to determine if the product is real or not.
1. Case Thickness - Genuine A'PEXi Auto Turbo Timer cases have a thickness of 3/8 inches at the display area. Counterfeit ones have a thickness of 7/8 inches.
2. Wiring Harness - The genuine harness has red dots along the black, white and grey wires. The counterfeit harness does not.
3. Parts List - Genuine A'PEXi Auto Timer contains all the items listed on the parts list. The counterfeit units are missing zip ties, double-sided tape, splices and electro-taps.
4. Serial Numbers - Genuine A'PEXi Auto Timers have a serial number on the black relay box. The counterfeit Turbo Timers do not.
5. Package Height - The clear plastic box on the genuine Auto Timer is three inches tall. The counterfeit Auto Timer's package is only 2.5 inches tall.
6. Package Opening - The clear plastic box of the genuine Auto Timer opens on the sides, whereas the counterfeit Auto Timer opens on the front and back.
7. Display - On the genuine A'PEXi Auto Timer the red LED display is visibly red when powered off. On the counterfeit Turbo Timer, the display is not red when off.
8. Display Film - A genuine A'PEXi Auto Timer has no film on the display. The counterfeit Turbo Timer has a clear poly-film affixed to the display.
9. A/F Monitor - On the counterfeit Turbo Timer, the A/F function does not work. It reads 14.6 all the time.
10. Parking Brake Safety - On the counterfeit Auto Timer, the Parking Brake Safety Function does not work. If you release the handbrake, the engine will continue to idle.


well done..

one reason why I'm VERY cautious when doing business on tuner
ALOT of con men out there on tuner...who even have their name in red.

then Duane will say we cant make libelous or slanderous statements on tuner to warn others - cause trinituner cannot investigate claims made by parties to determine right from wrong -instead take it to consumer affairs.

how long does consumer affairs take to act .?
don't they rely on said businesses to be registered as a business by the govt of Trinidad & Tobago, in order for them to act?
how much ppl with RED names have actual registered businesses - and how much just doing a small thing bringing down stuff and selling.??

what about warranty - I see men does be selling brand new laptops with 6 months warranty - when they buy from the dealer they get a FULL 1 yr - but offer 6 months to consumer - and if u want extra - you hadda pay a lil 100-200-300 more.??
that not wrong too??

I agree that trinituner is also funded by powerseller fees - however small they may be -but fact REMAINS- trinituner is being funded.
therefore the users should be able to have some sort of guarantee that item is genuine - or as is stated in the case of used and be able to tell one another ok look out XYZ product is fake from this seller - this is my proof.

Yes- it will have persons who will rate down a seller out of pure malice, jealousy and hate.

but which is worse having good information with the select few bashing sales - or having a lot of conmen running wild.??

but as always let good sense prevail - do your research on tuner when buying from anyone - if it sounds too goo to be true - it usually is.
and avoid impulse decisions.

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Re: Fake Tomei and SARD fuel pressure regulators

Postby Aaron 2NR » November 11th, 2014, 7:57 am

^ I'm sure if you pay a membership fee then these kind of policies can be put in place. At the end of the day, the consumer has the option to go to the authorised dealer to get items who in MOST times are cheaper than what some tuners sell on tuner. Consumers should do their own checks before they purchase items....

You as a consumer can figure out an item is fake as well by the cost it is being sold at

Recently I had a power seller trying to low ball a personal item I had for sale. Bought an aem gauge for $1200 from the local distributor and didn't need it again so I tried to resell it. The power seller try offering me $800 and saying that's the value and I would never get it sold

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Re: Fake Tomei and SARD fuel pressure regulators

Postby skylinechild » November 11th, 2014, 1:14 pm

Aaron 2NR wrote:^ I'm sure if you pay a membership fee then these kind of policies can be put in place. At the end of the day, the consumer has the option to go to the authorised dealer to get items who in MOST times are cheaper than what some tuners sell on tuner. Consumers should do their own checks before they purchase items....

You as a consumer can figure out an item is fake as well by the cost it is being sold at

Recently I had a power seller trying to low ball a personal item I had for sale. Bought an aem gauge for $1200 from the local distributor and didn't need it again so I tried to resell it. The power seller try offering me $800 and saying that's the value and I would never get it sold


not everything needs a membership fee to get things done,
this reminds me of the recent digicel & whatapp impasse -
digicel wanted users to pay extra to use whatsapp - cause they were utilizing the network infrastructure without paying - and whatapp replied but you are already being paid - by your customers who pay for network service and then pay for data. :lol:

and yes trinituner or powersellers aren't holding a gun to anyones head - forcing them to buy...lol.

you are 1000% right by saying its the consumers choice - however the problem arises when power sellers advertise the same product at almost the same price - and it advertises as genuine but when bought u realize its a knockoff - whats your redress??
why cant you say "hey look out this product from this seller is fake"


not all items that are sold at lower cost than authorized sellers are fake- some legit powersellers have less overhead costs - rent - electricity - employees, phonebill etc etc
and buy in bulk (and then pass the savings onto the consumer.) so as to compete with the brick and mortar stores who have these overhead costs to cover and STILL make a profit.
so in some cases- buying on tuner is cheaper than some places.

and its funny to hear that a p.s lowballing a new unused item. who knows you may or may not get the item sold. I myself hav a B12 master control switch for sale.lots of tuners call an cry down price..in the end it here for who want it...hell even a powerseller or two asked the price.

so keep your gauge ...a buyer will come along sooner or later..

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Re: Fake Tomei and SARD fuel pressure regulators

Postby Aaron 2NR » November 11th, 2014, 1:54 pm

^ well the digicel problem was viber and not whatsapp eh :P

but to correct something you said, authorised dealers usually get 40-50% off on listed prices from the factory so thats why their cost sometimes match the prices listed online, which includes shipping,taxes and a profit.

i have seen numerous stores selling knock off hks, apexi etc but its up to the consumer to do their checks as well.....trinituner cannot be held responsible for this since they are just providing an avenue to sell your product. the same can happen on express classified section....they cannot control what is sold and whats not....

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Re: Fake Tomei and SARD fuel pressure regulators

Postby Ignorant Ignis » November 11th, 2014, 1:56 pm

skylinechild wrote:
not everything needs a membership fee to get things done,
however the problem arises when power sellers advertise the same product at almost the same price - and it advertises as genuine but when bought u realize its a knockoff - whats your redress??
why cant you say "hey look out this product from this seller is fake"


u have to realize trinituner does not have the resources to investigate every item every powerseller is peddling to prove authenticity or value for money, or the claims of it's users about being conned or ripped off by a powerseller ..... that's why the disclaimers are in place to protect both the website and it's users.

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Re: Fake Tomei and SARD fuel pressure regulators

Postby skylinechild » November 11th, 2014, 9:56 pm

Aaron 2NR wrote:^ well the digicel problem was viber and not whatsapp eh :P

but to correct something you said, authorised dealers usually get 40-50% off on listed prices from the factory so thats why their cost sometimes match the prices listed online, which includes shipping,taxes and a profit.


my apologies...i not a viber user... :oops:

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Re: Fake Tomei and SARD fuel pressure regulators

Postby trini mk5 » November 16th, 2014, 12:41 pm

if these powersellers have a registered business and they are selling from an actual store or place of sale, then you should be able to report them to consumer affairs. Bureau of standards do not deal with these issues for people who are wondering.

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