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Cable & Wireless buys Flow (subject to regulatory approval)

Postby Country_Bookie » November 6th, 2014, 12:17 pm

CWC agrees to buy Columbus International for USD1.85bn
6 Nov 2014
BarbadosGrenadaJamaicaSaint LuciaAntigua and BarbudaSaint Vincent and the GrenadinesTrinidad and TobagoCuracao

The board of Cable & Wireless Communications (CWC) has agreed to pay a total consideration of USD1.85 billion for 100% of the equity of Columbus International, a privately-owned, Barbados-based telecoms provider. The total will be settled through the payment of approximately USD707.5 million in cash and the distribution of 1.557 billion new ordinary CWC shares to entities ultimately controlled by John Risley (director and co-founder of Columbus), an entity ultimately controlled by John Malone (significant shareholder) and to Brendan Paddick (president, CEO and co-founder of Columbus). CWC has also announced the placing of new shares constituting approximately 9.99% of CWC’s existing share capital, which will be used in part to fund the acquisition.

As a result of the transaction, the board estimates that the enlarged group will be able to achieve recurring annualised pre-tax cost synergies of about USD85 million, which are expected to be delivered in full in the fiscal year 2017/18, and one-time capital expenditure synergies of some USD145 million in the first three years, following the closing of the acquisition, with additional revenue benefits also available.

Columbus, which generated revenue of USD505 million in the year ended 31 December 2013, has around 700,000 residential customers in the Caribbean, Central America and the Andean region. It offers services under the FLOW brand name in Trinidad & Tobago, Jamaica, Barbados, Grenada and Curacao, and also serves Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent & the Grenadines and Antigua & Barbuda under the brand name Karib Cable. Columbus also provides corporate data and cloud based services under the brand Columbus Business Solutions. Meanwhile, through its wholly owned subsidiary, Columbus Networks, the company provides capacity and IP services, corporate data solutions and data centre hosting throughout 42 countries in the greater Caribbean, Central American and Andean region. The telco presides over a fully protected, ringed submarine fibre-optic network spanning close to 42,300km and a 26,400km terrestrial fibre and coaxial network.


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Get ready to pay monopoly prices for your internet! The 2 largest ISP’s in the country are now owned by the same parent company. And yes I know technically CWC only owns 49% of bmobile/blink.
I guess this might also mean the end of Blink’s fledgling cable service? All their customers might be migrated to Flow with a special pricing plan?

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Postby STORM1234 » November 6th, 2014, 12:30 pm

no more 10mb unlimited for 200 per month.!!!



nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.......

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Postby neilsingh100 » November 6th, 2014, 12:30 pm

The 49% share in TSTT will most likely be divested to the Government.

Both Columbus & C&W applied for the third mobile license and will most likely get it.

There is sure to be layoffs as C&W and Columbus combine operations.

TSTT will most likely go bankrupt in the next couple of years if it is 100% owned by the government.

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Postby megadoc1 » November 6th, 2014, 12:47 pm

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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Postby nos_specialist » November 6th, 2014, 12:50 pm

WHAT THE HELL...


























NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, *starts downloading the whole internet*

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Postby KM_2NR » November 6th, 2014, 12:51 pm

lost to all wrote:no more 10mb unlimited for 200 per month.!!!



nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.......


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Postby redmanjp » November 6th, 2014, 1:31 pm

nos_specialist wrote:WHAT THE HELL...












NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, *starts downloading the whole internet*


put it in ah torrent and let everyone download via the IXP fast fast :shock:

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Re: Cable & Wireless buys Flow

Postby skylinechild » November 6th, 2014, 2:19 pm

neilsingh100 wrote:The 49% share in TSTT will most likely be divested to the Government.

Both Columbus & C&W applied for the third mobile license and will most likely get it.

There is sure to be layoffs as C&W and Columbus combine operations.

TSTT will most likely go bankrupt in the next couple of years if it is 100% owned by the government.


the pressure is on - TSTT will either step up their game....or go home.

at the end of the day its all about business. TSTT will seek to make better business decisions and work ethics - ie no longer waiting 5 days to repair phone service a week to repair busted main cables or 3 weeks to remove rotten poles...

They may seek to diversify even more - ie blink vigilance blink entertainment blink on the go

they may decide to strengthen their core service
(which was sorely neglected over the years) - phone and internet

If C&W get the mobile operator license they WILL become TSTT's main competitor and minority shareholder :lol:

pretty crappy situation to be in where your have to deal with competition and STILL have to make a profit and share with them :lol:

WIN -WIN for C&W

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Postby supremacy_007 » November 6th, 2014, 4:02 pm

skylinechild wrote:
neilsingh100 wrote:The 49% share in TSTT will most likely be divested to the Government.

Both Columbus & C&W applied for the third mobile license and will most likely get it.

There is sure to be layoffs as C&W and Columbus combine operations.

TSTT will most likely go bankrupt in the next couple of years if it is 100% owned by the government.


the pressure is on - TSTT will either step up their game....or go home.

at the end of the day its all about business. TSTT will seek to make better business decisions and work ethics - ie no longer waiting 5 days to repair phone service a week to repair busted main cables or 3 weeks to remove rotten poles...

They may seek to diversify even more - ie blink vigilance blink entertainment blink on the go

they may decide to strengthen their core service
(which was sorely neglected over the years) - phone and internet

If C&W get the mobile operator license they WILL become TSTT's main competitor and minority shareholder :lol:

pretty crappy situation to be in where your have to deal with competition and STILL have to make a profit and share with them :lol:

WIN -WIN for C&W


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Postby moses_boss12 » November 6th, 2014, 7:53 pm

Dark Days are ahead...especially when i now start enjoy my 20 mb boyyyyy

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Postby Gladiator » November 6th, 2014, 9:22 pm

skylinechild wrote:
neilsingh100 wrote:The 49% share in TSTT will most likely be divested to the Government.

Both Columbus & C&W applied for the third mobile license and will most likely get it.

There is sure to be layoffs as C&W and Columbus combine operations.

TSTT will most likely go bankrupt in the next couple of years if it is 100% owned by the government.


the pressure is on - TSTT will either step up their game....or go home.

at the end of the day its all about business. TSTT will seek to make better business decisions and work ethics - ie no longer waiting 5 days to repair phone service a week to repair busted main cables or 3 weeks to remove rotten poles...

They may seek to diversify even more - ie blink vigilance blink entertainment blink on the go

they may decide to strengthen their core service
(which was sorely neglected over the years) - phone and internet

If C&W get the mobile operator license they WILL become TSTT's main competitor and minority shareholder :lol:

pretty crappy situation to be in where your have to deal with competition and STILL have to make a profit and share with them :lol:

WIN -WIN for C&W


TSTT can never improve in their Unionised environment... close it down, sell it out and start up fresh.

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Re: Cable & Wireless buys Flow

Postby stev » November 6th, 2014, 9:31 pm

The country has reached a point where people will still pay for ridiculous bandwidth at a ridiculous price....

i dont see changes in price anytime soon though, there is no need for over reacting.

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Postby skylinechild » November 6th, 2014, 11:16 pm

Gladiator wrote:TSTT can never improve in their Unionised environment... close it down, sell it out and start up fresh.


what will this accomplish.?? are you saying the union is where the problem lies.??
awaits your intelligent response.

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Re: Cable & Wireless buys Flow

Postby The_Honourable » November 6th, 2014, 11:50 pm

Gladiator wrote: TSTT can never improve in their Unionised environment... close it down, sell it out and start up fresh.


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Re: Cable & Wireless buys Flow

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » November 6th, 2014, 11:52 pm

Just when things was looking nice eh?

Bad time for this to happen, games and HD movie streaming is getting bigger and bigger look at Titanfall its 50GB worth of download. Imagine going back to Dial up now. LOL

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Postby Mark! » November 6th, 2014, 11:56 pm

Lucky thing i still using RAVE

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » November 7th, 2014, 12:38 am

That cah help you dan. Lets just say for a moment we was back to a monopoly, one company controlling the underwater internet fiber line. It eh matter who you still using, one company will dictate the price and you would pay $1000 for dial up if they want to.

Good thing this won't happen, I not sure how the business works but Cable and Wireless would most likely become a separate company from TSTT and we might end up having more competition.

TSTT would most likely fail in the end if it were 100% government control.

This might turn out to be a good thing, I trying to look at it on the positive side here as right now flow taking real long to digitalize the whole of Trinidad so TSTT can still continue to shaft people with 256k internet. So maybe this is a good move we might so better service and prices.

That or we going back to dial up speeds. How would you guys make out with dial up speeds though?

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Re: Cable & Wireless buys Flow

Postby Lance » November 7th, 2014, 4:51 am

Quasi-Monopoly in allyuh arse.

C&W should be made to divest It's interest in TSTT.

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Postby Tucson-anil » November 7th, 2014, 6:32 am

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:That cah help you dan. Lets just say for a moment we was back to a monopoly, one company controlling the underwater internet fiber line. It eh matter who you still using, one company will dictate the price and you would pay $1000 for dial up if they want to.

Good thing this won't happen, I not sure how the business works but Cable and Wireless would most likely become a separate company from TSTT and we might end up having more competition.

TSTT would most likely fail in the end if it were 100% government control.

This might turn out to be a good thing, I trying to look at it on the positive side here as right now flow taking real long to digitalize the whole of Trinidad so TSTT can still continue to shaft people with 256k internet. So maybe this is a good move we might so better service and prices.

That or we going back to dial up speeds. How would you guys make out with dial up speeds though?


Actually, this is very possible. I've been in a presentation with Columbus Business Solution where the subsea fiber was discussed. Columbus is the carrier of carriers. This means that all the ISPs purchase bandwidth from them for Internet. Digicel recently purchased a subsea fiber ( Global Crossing...but could be wrong) and also uses Columbus as a backup.

C&W is now in the process of acquiring all Columbus including the subsea fiber. While there may be different ISPs in TT, the outbound route is most likely the same. C&W will soon be in control of this and everyone will be at their mercy.

Consider this....the price for a 20Mbps dedicated Internet circuit in Suriname is close to 25k USD monthly.

The reason ??

A closed telecoms market that's monopolistic.

Could we get there?

Probably

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Postby megadoc1 » November 7th, 2014, 6:37 am

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2014-11-06/cwc-mega-deal-worries-tatt-unfair-edge
Concerns have been expressed that Cable & Wireless Communication’s (CWC) proposed US$3 billion acquisition of regional cable provider Columbus International (also know as FLOW) could lead to a decline in telecommunications competition across the region and anti-competitive behaviour in T&T. The atmosphere was created after CWC announced in London yesterday that its board had agreed on terms to purchase 100 per cent of Columbus International Inc, the fibre-based telecommunications and technology services provider for US$1.85 billion. CWC will also assume Columbus’ US$1.17 billion in net debt.

CWC said it would finance the US$1.85 billion acquisition cost through the payment of US$707.5 million in cash and the issue of 1.55 billion new ordinary CWC shares to Columbus’ three major shareholders — John Risely, John Malone and Brendan Paddick — worth US$1.14 billion. If the transaction is approved, the three main Columbus shareholders will own about 36 per cent of CWC and collectively will be the telecommunications provider’s largest shareholders. The proposed transaction will bring together CWC, which has 5.7 million mobile, fixed line and Internet customers in Panama, the Caribbean and Seychelles, with the 700,000 residential of Columbus in the Caribbean, Central America and the Andean region. In T&T, the acquisition will mean CWC, which owns 49 per cent of majority state-owned TSTT, acquiring FLOW’s cable TV, Internet and telephone services. The CWC announcement said the completion of the transaction was conditional on it receiving regulatory approval in Barbados, Jamaica and T&T.

Speaking yesterday, Telecommunications Authority of T&T (TATT) CEO Cris Seecharan, said the local regulator was required to approve any change of ownership in licensed entities.
Seecharan said from a regional perspective, the acquisition of FLOW by CWC would reduce the number of players from three — FLOW, Digicel and the CWC-owned LIME — to two, Digicel and LIME. Seecharan said: “The region would be going from a position of vibrant competition among three players to the creation of an effective duopoly, which sometimes leads to a stagnation in competition that could impact on the affordability of service. “In T&T, the issue is more about the potential for anti-competitive behaviour as a result of cross-owner that CWC could own 49 per cent of TSTT and 100 per cent of FLOW.” He said the local regulator has embarked on an analysis of how the transaction will impact competition and how the market will be affected. He said the authority was expected to conclude that exercise by February 28, the deadline set by the parties.

Digicel concerned too
In a statement, CWC’s major competitor in the Caribbean, Digicel, said it was “naturally concerned about the clear and obvious challenges and potential issues posed by such a proposed move from a regulatory and competition perspective.” Questioned on the Digicel statement, CWC’s chief executive, Phil Bentley, said the comments were very interesting because Digicel had themselves made a bid to acquire Columbus. Bentley said: “That's a response of, if you like, a scorned lover because they didn't buy the assets. “So I think it's a bit rich of them to complain about us buying it because they wanted to buy it themselves. I would be very happy for you to make that point. It feels like sour grapes to us.” Asked whether CWC outbid Digicel for Columbus, Bentley said with a laugh: “Well, they didn't get the business. You can draw your own conclusion from that.” Asked to respond to Bentley’s allegation that Digicel had bid for Columbus, the Digicel spokesperson Antonia Graham said: “We would not comment on that.”

Customers getting choice
Told that the local telecom authority had expressed some concerns about the transaction, Bentley said CWC would be writing to the regulators on the issues of concern to them. “What I would say is that Digicel has been acquiring companies and rolling out fibre,” Bentley said. “I think we are confident that we will make the case that this is good for giving choice to customers. We think it is good for rolling out investment faster. It’s not often that people invest US$3 billion in the Caribbean and hopefully, people will see the positive side to that.”

Digicel said the proposed transaction raised a number of issues that would need to be addressed, including such matters as fairness in spectrum allocations, local loop unbundling and price bundling generally. The Jamaican-based company said: “A myriad of other likely issues will only become apparent once Digicel and other agencies and bodies have been fully appraised of the details of the proposed transaction and the likely resultant impact on the telecoms market in the region.”

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » November 7th, 2014, 6:48 am

cable bills and internet bills gona be ah beytoch

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Postby Lance » November 7th, 2014, 7:02 am

It's quite funny that a monopoly is forming before people's eyes and the whole of Facebook preoccupied with the fact that whatsapp introduce the blue ticks.

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Postby neilsingh100 » November 7th, 2014, 7:13 am

Lance wrote:It's quite funny that a monopoly is forming before people's eyes and the whole of Facebook preoccupied with the fact that whatsapp introduce the blue ticks.

In the context of Trinidad, once C&W sells their 49% share in TSTT there is no monopoly and is a good development since we would have strong competition among C&W, TSTT & Digicel.

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Postby Lance » November 7th, 2014, 7:24 am

neilsingh100 wrote:
Lance wrote:It's quite funny that a monopoly is forming before people's eyes and the whole of Facebook preoccupied with the fact that whatsapp introduce the blue ticks.

In the context of Trinidad, once C&W sells their 49% share in TSTT there is no monopoly and is a good development since we would have strong competition among C&W, TSTT & Digicel.


See comment #18.

Let's see if TATT steps up and makes sure that adequate consideration is given.

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Postby neilsingh100 » November 7th, 2014, 7:35 am

Lance wrote:
neilsingh100 wrote:
Lance wrote:It's quite funny that a monopoly is forming before people's eyes and the whole of Facebook preoccupied with the fact that whatsapp introduce the blue ticks.

In the context of Trinidad, once C&W sells their 49% share in TSTT there is no monopoly and is a good development since we would have strong competition among C&W, TSTT & Digicel.


See comment #18.

Let's see if TATT steps up and makes sure that adequate consideration is given.

There are three main submarine cables coming into Trinidad, one owned by Columbus, the other by Digicel and third by a consortium so don't see an issue here.

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Postby Demonoid » November 7th, 2014, 9:09 am

Digicel fiber is the answer available right now for corporate in certain areas :)

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Postby Country_Bookie » November 7th, 2014, 10:42 am

I agree that we shouldn’t overreact, as it is possible TATT could block the deal in TnT, though I wouldn’t hold my breath since we don’t have any antitrust legislation on the books here. I don’t know if there is a legal basis in the TATT Act for stopping anti competitive corporate actions.
If the deal goes thru, the gov’t would still have final say on a potential merger locally of flow and TSTT/bmobile, since Gov’t owns 51% of bmobile. Seems like they made the right call in not giving up more to C&W.

Bundled cell phone and internet package anyone?
I didn’t think so.

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Postby Dizzy28 » November 7th, 2014, 10:58 am

neilsingh100 wrote:
Lance wrote:
neilsingh100 wrote:
Lance wrote:It's quite funny that a monopoly is forming before people's eyes and the whole of Facebook preoccupied with the fact that whatsapp introduce the blue ticks.

In the context of Trinidad, once C&W sells their 49% share in TSTT there is no monopoly and is a good development since we would have strong competition among C&W, TSTT & Digicel.


See comment #18.

Let's see if TATT steps up and makes sure that adequate consideration is given.

There are three main submarine cables coming into Trinidad, one owned by Columbus, the other by Digicel and third by a consortium so don't see an issue here.


Is it three or Five?
ECFS
GCN
EC link
Americas 2
SG-SCS

I was not aware Digicel owned any. Which is Digicel's?

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Re: Cable & Wireless buys Flow (subject to regulatory approv

Postby Lance » November 7th, 2014, 11:26 am

neilsingh100 wrote:
Lance wrote:
neilsingh100 wrote:
Lance wrote:It's quite funny that a monopoly is forming before people's eyes and the whole of Facebook preoccupied with the fact that whatsapp introduce the blue ticks.

In the context of Trinidad, once C&W sells their 49% share in TSTT there is no monopoly and is a good development since we would have strong competition among C&W, TSTT & Digicel.


See comment #18.

Let's see if TATT steps up and makes sure that adequate consideration is given.

There are three main submarine cables coming into Trinidad, one owned by Columbus, the other by Digicel and third by a consortium so don't see an issue here.


I must have missed your point.

There could be 1 million cables coming in, the issue at hand is who delivers the end market services.

Unless they are forced to divest some interest then there will be no doubt a quasi-monopoly type situation regarding consumer offerings.

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » November 7th, 2014, 12:12 pm

I expect the TATT to step in and do something about this. If this is allowed to happen and no one including the government does anything about it then we have failed as a country and a people.

This is not the time to have a monopoly we are supposed to be the technological hub of this region. If we are at the mercy of what is happening then this will set us back to the stone age of the 1990's and dialup speeds. We will reach nowhere as a country thats supposed to be diversifying away from our depleting oil and gas exports into technological innovation and services.

I would so much prefer if Digicel had won the bid for Flow. The wrong set of people won that bid if this happens we have to now depend on Digicel to roll out land line internet in this country? And they still need to get a TATT license ontop of that? division that refuses to grant another license for how many years now companies abroad have been applying?

Too little too late now, if a new company was to come down here within the next few years how long they would take to cover this country? flow spend how much years and how far did they even reach?

Boy am I gonna miss $199 a month 10MB broadband now, I smell an end to the good days of cloud based computing and online gaming for dial up speeds and 4th world service of down times will make this impossible. Our only real hope right now is for C&W to give up their share of TSTT.

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