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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby DVSTT » June 29th, 2014, 9:36 pm

Aaron 2NR wrote:these are some info i got from a witness who went to the end of the track


What the Fire and Police pointed out to Nara ppl his helmet was unstrapped and no protective gears was worn. He only had on helmet gloves and riding boots. No elbow pads knee pads and chest armour.

He died at Camden. Not on the way to hospital. When they came and saw his body motionless face first. Helmet off and boots off they realized he died.


As soon as they turned him over his face from jaw was shredded teeth was missing and blood oozing from nose and mouth. His body had too much adrenaline causing him to beat up.

It had nothing they could have done. The Police Inspector said to remove the body. Because the DMO coming from San/Do and it doesn't make sense.

It was their fault (NARA). Despite what anyone says. From an HSE perspective it did not have proper safety requirements.



Everytime I go drags I always ask why are the riders allowed to run without proper gear? I guess this incident would inspire them to implement and enforce proper safety protocol.

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 29th, 2014, 9:38 pm

Proper barriers are an absolute necessity on a drag strip. TrackBite cannot be more important than concrete barriers. Maybe if there were barriers then one bike would not have collided with the other.

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby Yorkshirelass » June 29th, 2014, 9:55 pm

^^^ my sentiments exactly Duane

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby Aaron 2NR » June 29th, 2014, 10:02 pm

same here. i always wonder what HSE evaluations are done prior to an event, risk assessments etc. two last events ended with two accidents.

is it simply pick up the pieces and move on or stand down, investigate and limit the risk....

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby COROLLA KID » June 29th, 2014, 11:44 pm

RIP.....condolences to his family

Just last week the girl ran into the Christmas tree and got KO'd and now this,

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby Nissan Forever » June 29th, 2014, 11:45 pm

I think the concrete is not the correct thing I suggest the water filled barriers and nara andd ttundra need to unite for the betterment of the sport only then the government would see it being viable to invest

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 30th, 2014, 12:46 am

Nissan Forever wrote:and nara andd ttundra need to unite for the betterment of the sport only then the government would see it being viable to invest
the govt has already invested by giving the land to use.

Whose responsibility is it to ensure track safety?

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby pete » June 30th, 2014, 1:51 am

Duane, what drag tracks have lanes separated by barriers?

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 30th, 2014, 2:13 am

pete wrote:Duane, what drag tracks have lanes separated by barriers?
most have barriers at the start only, but have concrete retaining walls down the entire length of the track which we don't have

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby shocksub » June 30th, 2014, 2:15 am

pete wrote:Duane, what drag tracks have lanes separated by barriers?


I don't think any NHRA strips have barriers down the centre, they have barriers on the sides of the track.

Yorkshirelass should think a little before commenting on a form of motorsport that she has no idea about.

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 30th, 2014, 2:39 am

shocksub wrote:
pete wrote:Duane, what drag tracks have lanes separated by barriers?


I don't think any NHRA strips have barriers down the centre, they have barriers on the sides of the track.
true, the only place I've really seen barriers down the middle of the entire length of track is at 4 wide, but that is more than likely to allow the running of just two lanes at once.

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We don't have the retaining walls to the side though, leaving the lighting towers and other track side objects as potential hazards

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby Alain_2NR » June 30th, 2014, 5:21 am

Excerpt from the Trinidad Express. Monday June 29th 2014.

21-year-old killed in drag race

Story Updated: Jun 29, 2014

A 21-YEAR-OLD Freeport man became the latest road fatality after he was killed during a drag racing event in Couva early yesterday morning. Nadir Shah was killed instantly after crashing into a concrete barrier when he lost control of his motorcycle close to the finish line around 12.30 a.m., police reported. His death took the road fatality figure for the year to date to 173. Upon impact, Shah was thrown several metres and was pronounced dead by paramedics who arrived on the scene a short while later, police said. Officers of Couva Police Station also visited the scene and questioned several people who had witnessed the incident. Sgt Alexander of the Couva station is continuing investigations into Shah’s death. An autopsy will be carried out on his body this morning at the Forensic Science Centre at Federation Park, St James.

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby Alain_2NR » June 30th, 2014, 5:32 am

Biker, 21, dies in drag race

By CECILY ASSON Monday, June 30 2014

Dead is, Nabeel Shah, of Baksh Avenue, Freeport. 

According to a police report, at about 12.15 am, Shah was drag racing his motorbike along the strip when, at about 50 feet from the finish line, he sped out of control, and fell off the bike as it crashed. Shah was rushed to the Couva District Health Facility where he was pronounced dead on arrival from what the police report stated might have been a broken neck. 

An unidentified biker who was also drag racing, police said, also fell but sustained minor injuries. The Campden air strip is an official drag-racing track and the police report stated there was a car show there on Saturday night. Shah and other bikers were providing entertainment racing each other. 

Newsday was told a few of Ali’s relatives were present to see him ride and witnessed the crash. 

Vice-president of the Trinidad and Tobago Automobile Sports Association (TTASA), Jameer Ali, extended condolences to Shah’s bereaved family, but said while he knew about Saturday night’s event, it was not sanctioned by TTASA. 

Ali said TTASA is affiliated to the world governing body, the Federation of International Automobile, as well as the Ministry of Sports. It is the authorised body in the country, he added, to look after the safety aspect of motor racing in the country. 

Ali told Newsday, “We are authorised that any motorsport to take place in Trinidad and Tobago, we have to make sure that safety standards are there. The promotion company which hosted the event last night (Saturday) don’t apply for sanctioning. They run their events without sanction. For us, it is a sad day for motorsports because we lost one of our own.” 

Ali appealed to other motorsports bodies to register their organisations under the umbrella of TTASA. He said such an appeal was echoed by the Ministry of Sports during a recent meeting. Ali said, “We can only try to get every body under one umbrella.” Newsday was unable to contact the promoters of Saturday’s event. 

Ag Sgt Alexander of the Couva Police Station is continuing investigations.

xcerpt from the Trinidad Newsday. Monday June 29th 2014.

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby Team Loco » June 30th, 2014, 6:11 am

So newsday make it look like it was a carshow and two arbitrary persons racing bikes. Sheesh

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby turbosingh » June 30th, 2014, 7:13 am

Any vids off the crash?I wanna show my bike buddies while they alive!

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby TriP » June 30th, 2014, 7:38 am

R.I.P

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Postby GT RACING » June 30th, 2014, 8:46 am

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby Keyser Soze » June 30th, 2014, 8:55 am

DVSTT wrote:
Aaron 2NR wrote:these are some info i got from a witness who went to the end of the track


What the Fire and Police pointed out to Nara ppl his helmet was unstrapped and no protective gears was worn. He only had on helmet gloves and riding boots. No elbow pads knee pads and chest armour.

He died at Camden. Not on the way to hospital. When they came and saw his body motionless face first. Helmet off and boots off they realized he died.


As soon as they turned him over his face from jaw was shredded teeth was missing and blood oozing from nose and mouth. His body had too much adrenaline causing him to beat up.

It had nothing they could have done. The Police Inspector said to remove the body. Because the DMO coming from San/Do and it doesn't make sense.

It was their fault (NARA). Despite what anyone says. From an HSE perspective it did not have proper safety requirements.



Everytime I go drags I always ask why are the riders allowed to run without proper gear? I guess this incident would inspire them to implement and enforce proper safety protocol.


The impact caused the damages seen there fella.
I do not know the guy personally nor do i have any horse in this race, so i am stating my unbiased point of view and rolling it out as i saw it. The guy had on his racing jacket, can't remember if he had racing pants and boots, but for all the pics up of him at all camden events he was in full race gear always.
No amount of racing gear can save your life from a high speed impact on a motorcycle.
If you dont ride bikes it's easy to assume that someone did not strap their helmet, but once you ride at high speeds air can push your helmet off your head if not strapped so its obvious to me that a racer knowing this will strap up.
Plenty assumptions and the intentions of these assumptions continuously make themselves clear....

I agree that barriers need to be put in place to avoid lane crossing as this is what caused this unfortunate accident in the first place.

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Postby RBphoto » June 30th, 2014, 9:07 am

RIP. Time to step up the safety.

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby turbosingh » June 30th, 2014, 10:44 am

RBphoto wrote:RIP. Time to step up the safety.


Yes but why were bikers allowed to race after a drizzle?

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby vtec powwa » June 30th, 2014, 11:03 am

[/quote] I agree that barriers need to be put in place to avoid lane crossing as this is what caused this unfortunate accident in the first place.[/quote]

This did not cause the accident. Lost of control of the bike is what caused it together with not strapping of helmet an proper race gears for rider

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby SmokeyGTi » June 30th, 2014, 11:13 am

a lot of flaming goin on on the social networks about TTASA vs NARA and a lot of finger pointing going on.

nothing we say here is gonna bring the youthman back.

learn from the mistakes made, have the testicular fortitude to admit to shortcomings where relevant and put things in place to minimize the risk of this happening again.

RIP to the biker.

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby djaggs » June 30th, 2014, 11:30 am

I didnt see this thread and posted the below comment elsewhere.

It is dangerous to have a motor racing event run by a promotions outfit that does not necessarily understand all the requirements and international standards that apply to the sport.

I havent been to Camden in a while,but from what I recall it seemed to be a very dangerous place to have racing. I don't know what upgrades have been put in place but, are there concrete barriers along the sides of the track as well as down the middle to prevent cars from leaving the track or crossing it?

That is a most basic requirement i think of a drag strip.

I also seem to recall somehow that race tracks must receive certification declaring that it meets the standards necessary where safety is concerned.

All the same, my condolences to the family of the young man, this is a real tragedy. I just hope something positive may come out of it although I dont see anything positive about someone dying in a race accident especially since there is no professional racing in Trinidad, only club racing. To my memory (someone correct me if im wrong) this is the first fatality in a supposedly official racing event in Trinidad, and I have been a racing enthusiast in Trinidad since 1970.


I also want to ask, were there track stewards in place at that meeting ??

Who were they ??

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby toyolink » June 30th, 2014, 11:36 am

Wish to extend sincere condolences to all family and friends of this young member of the motor sporting fraternity.
RIP youth.

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby black start » June 30th, 2014, 11:53 am

rip...a sad way to go..

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Postby Computerman » June 30th, 2014, 11:54 am

djaggs wrote:To my memory (someone correct me if im wrong) this is the first fatality in a supposedly official racing event in Trinidad, and I have been a racing enthusiast in Trinidad since 1970.
I remember an incident in the 90's where a life was lost.

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby Dizzy28 » June 30th, 2014, 11:56 am

Computerman wrote:
djaggs wrote:To my memory (someone correct me if im wrong) this is the first fatality in a supposedly official racing event in Trinidad, and I have been a racing enthusiast in Trinidad since 1970.
I remember an incident in the 90's where a life was lost.


The time they had the monster trucks in Wallerfield......2001 thereabouts, there was a circuit racing event as well and didn't someone die in an accident in that?

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Postby djaggs » June 30th, 2014, 12:02 pm

Computerman wrote:
djaggs wrote:To my memory (someone correct me if im wrong) this is the first fatality in a supposedly official racing event in Trinidad, and I have been a racing enthusiast in Trinidad since 1970.
I remember an incident in the 90's where a life was lost.


Yes someone reminded me of it.

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby pioneer » June 30th, 2014, 1:43 pm

At least the media got it right, biker killed while drag racing.




Drag racing is dangerous.

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Re: Biker loses life at NARA DRAG

Postby cornfused » June 30th, 2014, 2:20 pm

Uncle Duane .

I have watched several NHRA drag racing events where ever I can view them . After the death of Scott Kalitta in 2008 . His engine blew , damaged the parachute control system , they could not deploy and all the transmission was locked and continued to power the car long past the finish line. It it went through the sand traps and over the end wall into a camera crane that demolished the car . among the many changes the NHRA shortened the diastance for 1320 to 1000ft that year .

However they still do not have center lane dividers on most drag strips most plausibly because this may have the effect of more crashes as the racer has a smaller area to regain control of a vehicle.

All this to say that this is not the time to be pointing fingers at any organization . The track was wet and maybe they should not have been allowed to run . Having been at many night events over a long time . The area beyond the finish line is usually very poorly lit .

. You would not believe how slippery a prepared surface may become with water . Put it this way any fwd car can spin the wheels as per a proper burnout on such a surface .

RIP and condolences to the family of of Mr. Shah .

Safety is the concern for all involved in drag racing and this should be a time for some changes going forward for drag racing

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