SC Dana Seetahal murder - 11 men charged Pg.34

[bluefete]

Remember, if the AG falls, so falls the gov't.

[dougla_boy]

meem know why bluefete nookie footin......tork nuh dan..........

[16 cycles]

Dead men tell no tales.....only a matter of time the hitmen end up missing or dead in seemingly unrelated events...

[matthewmazda]

Anyone remember the robbery of the security vehicle?

The one with the ranger loaded with the cement bags....

no?

no arrest as yest

[MG Man]

no concrete evidence

[PariaMan]

The question is regardless what was the motive . If you were called to be a Special Prosecutor today (and you already make big money defending criminals) would what happened yesterday be a factor in your decision to accept the call?

I think it is crystal clear that the motive ( a magistrate has already said that she is scared) is " To intimidate Prosecutors, Judges, Magistrates, and present and future jury members!

[greggle71]

@khamal: AG postpones meeting to discuss Prison Litigation matter because of murder of SC Dana Seetahal & meeting of Nat Security council @CNC3TV

[bluefete]

This went over everyone's heads!!! It truly belongs in this thread.

Do you all understand the significance of a NATIONAL flag falling? On a battlefield? Or anywhere else? (Forget the breeze for a moment!)

Collective gasp as flag falls twice
By Joel Julien joel.julien@trinidadexpress.com

Story Created: May 3, 2014 at 9:07 PM ECT

Story Updated: May 3, 2014 at 9:39 PM ECT

THE national flag which draped the casket of Arthur NR Robinson fell twice at the State Ecumenical Service for the former president and prime minister at Dwight Yorke Stadium in Bacolet, Tobago, yesterday.

This caused a collective gasp among the hundreds in the stands, with some claiming it was a bad omen.

Others blamed the heavy winds said to be a regular feature of the area for the occurrence.

Robinson died on April 9 at age 87.

Yesterday marked the end of a five-day State funeral to honour Robinson’s life.

Following an ecumenical service at the National Academy for the Performing Arts (NAPA) in Port of Spain on Tuesday, Robinson’s body was flown to Tobago.

Members of the public were allowed to pay their final respects, as Robinson’s body was allowed to lie in state at the Legislative Chamber of the Tobago House of Assembly (THA), Scarborough.

Robinson, a former THA chairman, was born in Castara.

For yesterday’s service, the body arrived at Dwight Yorke Stadium around 9.20 a.m. It was placed in the centre of the stage set up for the proceedings by Defence Force pallbearers.

Moments after being placed centre stage, the flag which draped the casket fell to the ground.

There were gasps from the crowd.

A Defence Force official fixed the flag and walked away.

Moments later, it fell again. The crowd gasped again. “That is a sign,” a woman said.

Others countered it was nothing super­natural, but simply the heavy winds the area is known for.

Allen Granville, who delivered the first tribute for Robinson, brought the crowd to their feet with a soca song performed in Robin­son’s honour.

Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley and Chief Secretary Orville London also offered tributes.

The funeral service featured prayers, rea­dings and spiritual songs, including the Roxborough Community Chorale singing “The Lord’s Prayer”.

Robinson’s body was removed to the song “Because of Who You Are”, sung by Signal Hill Alumni Choir.

Robinson’s family followed the procession.

The funeral ended around noon.

As the body was being removed, the black hat worn by Robinson’s daughter, Ann Margaret, flew off in the direction of the casket.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Col ... 20631.html

[bluefete]

A little more than 24 hours later - BOOM!!!

[bluefete]

Anyone remember the robbery of the security vehicle?

The one with the ranger loaded with the cement bags....

no?

no arrest as yest

No arrests EVER in our lifetime. Too many high up people involved in that one.

[dougla_boy]

bluefete.....srsly????????


time to close dat 2nr account yes

[bluefete]

bluefete.....srsly????????


time to close dat 2nr account yes

Dougla_Boy: There are things in the spiritual realm you do not understand.

Anyways, things in the spiritual sometimes manifest in the physical.

[ek4ever]

somehow I don't think any of this will affect the price of bodi

[antlind]

Or Doubles

[VJTEK]

RIP Ms. Dana Seetahal, one of the few who truly believed in doing the right thing and making a contribution.

May your family and friends have the strength to make it through these difficult times.

[kjaglal76v2]

A little more than 24 hours later - BOOM!!!

yunno u issa bogus christian inno, it cleary have scriptures against looking to omens, dreams etc buh yet u always playing high & religious

youza damn apostate

[bluefete]

A little more than 24 hours later - BOOM!!!

yunno u issa bogus christian inno, it cleary have scriptures against looking to omens, dreams etc buh yet u always playing high & religious

youza damn apostate

Really? K. That is your opinion. But when you want to support an argument please use the relevant quotations.

BTW - Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Confucianism, Buddhism, Shintoism, Sai Babaism and so on have nothing to do with this.

Maybe you might want to migrate this discussion to the Religion thread.

[kjaglal76v2]

A little more than 24 hours later - BOOM!!!

yunno u issa bogus christian inno, it cleary have scriptures against looking to omens, dreams etc buh yet u always playing high & religious

youza damn apostate

Really? K. That is your opinion. But when you want to support an argument please use the relevant quotations.

BTW - Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Confucianism, Buddhism, Shintoism, Sai Babaism and so on have nothing to do with this.

Maybe you might want to migrate this discussion to the Religion thread.

well u a known christian on d forums who always preaching now u tlkin crap bout flag omens to try & drive home yur WOFT political point.

Deuteronomy 18:10

SHAME ON YOU

[Hyperion]

True Silk
Posted on May 5, 2014 by The Pantomime
Dana Seetahal (SC)
Dana Seetahal (SC)
If the assassination of Senior Counsel Dana Seetahal is a wake up call to you…..then something wrong with you.
If a little boy being raped to death in a swimming pool at a birthday party wasn’t a wake up call then, Dana’s assassination can’t wake you up to nothing. You in denial long time and using your moral panic over this latest killing to soothe your general inertia.
Or, you could be a member of the cocooned and protected upper classes here who only get hysterical when they realize crime doesn’t just exist Behind D Bridge or along the distant edges of the East/West corridors in the Malabars and La Horquettas of their imaginations. And then, if you’re a member of that just awakened group….it must suck to be you: having all those resources and still can’t ward off death.

Seetahal’s gruesome and shocking death is a marker. The act, along with Hamilton Holder/O’Connor Street, will become a part of a macabre and grisly list of checkpoints that heralded our descent while we sat shell shocked and panicked waiting for someone else….not us….to take back our power in this country. It will join markers like the Scott Drug Report; the 1990 Coup and the subsequent court ruling in favor of the Muslimeen; it will join the rise of the Muslimeen as a group that was consistently awarded Government contracts as part of every sitting government’s secret crime initiative, whether PNM, UNC or PP; it will join the Crowne Plaza agreement; the illegal SoE; Section 34; EmailGate; Ish and Steve and a very long list of markers that all point to us descending in narco state fourth world hell.
You hear it on the lips of citizens all the time, “Here getting like Mexico”, “Here getting like Colombia”. We not getting folks, we reach. That is what Dana’s death means. Final destination point. When a State Prosecutor is murdered in cold blood like that, in a country that is already awash in drugs, arms and human trafficking and has a corrupt and compromised police force and government…know that we reach. We not heading to hell anymore. It is here. It takes only one high profile murder like that to happen and go unsolved and you know we have arrived. Trinidad now has two: Selwyn Richardson in the 90s and Dana Seetahal in the early decades of the 21st century.
This is not to minimize or negate the murders, assassinations and senseless killings of so many thousands of citizens in the last decades. But, let’s face it. As a member of the legal profession and the wealthier upper classes, a society assumes Ms Seetahal will be safer and more protected, for all manner of reasons. Her assassination in an upscale residential/commercial neighborhood at midnight is meant to send a message. And I’d vouchsafe from the social media reactions yesterday: message received.
We woke up Sunday morning knowing in a very concrete way, maybe more so than before, that a message was being sent to the legal profession, journalists, columnists, activists, anyone bold enough to question the criminal and corruption status quo. Toe the blasted line…or this will be you.
In assassinating Dana, we are very aware that persons with strong Independent voices are under attack. Dana, to my knowledge, never verbally lashed out at any entity , political or otherwise. But, she was a rare thing, a lawyer, who took elitist, legal jargon and made it accessible to the layperson. I didn’t know Dana personally, I knew her through her columns and media commentary. Dana helped me to understand this country’s legal system, without me ever having to meet her or pay her a red cent. You can’t downplay her contribution to this country just for the value of her column. Few lawyers or intellectuals here have been as lucid, accessible and relevant as she has been. That’s what made Dana true silk. She had a fearsome legal mind, and instead of keeping it to herself and her clients for handsome fees, she made it available to all of us for the price of a newspaper…less if you read her articles online.
This Hit will be a success not just because Dana Seetahal has been silenced, but because the wider public will silence itself, retreat further indoors, put more useless security systems in place…not understanding that in growing quiet and retreating indoors, that’s how we gave criminals control of this place. They have fed on and continue to feed on our fear and insecurities. Our very predictable response to violence, from enslavement to now has never been overt; it has been passive aggression. So we will lead trapped lives and break more laws in an unconscious lashing out at all that is wrong around us: more child abuse, more road rage, more petty crimes and more silences and looking the other way when corruption happens because suppose we end up like Dana?
I have no faith that the police going to really solve this crime. I aint mama guying myself. The first official response to Ms Seetahal’s murder was the AG…at 2 am he had a lucid statement prepared of how friendly he and Dana were, and how in the latest scandal involving him, she was actually in his corner, and, “I sorry Dana dead, but lemme take a selfie…” It was an extreme pappyshow on his part. A clear attempt at image management in the midst of what was clearly a national crisis. Then sometime after 2pm the PM roused herself fully to issue a bland cut and paste response from the government. Nothing to offer the victim’s family, or the shell shocked country consolation or hope. And then, by Sunday night, they were back in Media and PR mode. Whole television stations commandeered. Panels convened. Police press conferences, all over a background of National Security ads saying “Serious Crime is Down” despite the fact that we have 29 more murder in 2014 than we had in the corresponding period for 2013.
I expect that three or four bodies of victims of a murder will be discovered soon. Just like with the Selwyn Richardson murder. And whether we know it or not, those bodies would have belonged to Dana’s killers. It’s part of how here, a narco state, works. And the sooner we start noticing the patterns, the sooner we can either grow accustomed or fight back.
I’ve made the very conscious choice to keep fighting back. Dana’s assassination had me contemplative and sober yesterday, because I recognized immediately the threat to free speech and independent thinking this is for journalists, columnists, activists and bloggers like myself. But I’m not going to stop questioning this place and writing about the things that upset me. Dana’s Assassination is real….in fact, too real. We are in dangerous times. But silence and withdrawal has never been nor will ever be the cure for it.
This is it. This is it. This is it. She’s been hit….and Trinidad spread out on a wall bawling for the country it didn’t realize it sat by and watched go.
#TrueSilk
#RIP

THIS WAS POSTED BY "THE ETERNAL PANTOMIME", I couldn't have said it better myself.

[rfari]

Jagmammo u forget me orwha?

Snipers on the old fire station rooftop during the procession of robbie's body on friday. Is this normal practice?

[shogun]

bluefete.....srsly????????


time to close dat 2nr account yes

Dougla_Boy: There are things in the spiritual realm you do not understand.

Anyways, things in the spiritual sometimes manifest in the physical.

Steups.

[kjaglal76v2]

Jagmammo u forget me orwha?

uploadfromtaptalk1399317782026.jpg

Snipers on the old fire station rooftop during the procession of robbie's body on friday. Is this normal practice?

wid wah dawg

[rfari]

Ting about seetahal in anand corner. Wha dais about?

[kjaglal76v2]

Ting about seetahal in anand corner. Wha dais about?

i kno u looking for tlk as usual but i would answer for d benefit of others

i was referring to dana seetahal's last column “Investigate What, Exactly?”

[rfari]

Ting about seetahal in anand corner. Wha dais about?

i kno u looking for tlk as usual but i would answer for d benefit of others

i was referring to dana seetahal's last column “Investigate What, Exactly?”

thank you kind sir.
what do you glean from the commentary? that she is in support of the ag?

Investigate what exactly?
By Dana Seetahal
Story Created: May 2, 2014 at 8:32 PM ECT
Story Updated: May 2, 2014 at 8:32 PM ECT
There have been several calls for an investigation into the concerns expressed in an August 30, 2013 letter by the then Solicitor General. It has (repeatedly) been stated that the then SG asked for an investigation because she was concerned there had been “in existence for some time an unethical business venture engaged in by attorneys-at-law” acting for prisoners alleged to have been assaulted by prison officers. She is quoted as stating that at issue was whether there was a conflict of interest by “certain key office holders” taking action to support the unethical business for financial gain.
All well and good it may seem: the then SG had these serious concerns and there should be an investigation. However, a review of the letter may lead one to wonder what exactly is the root of her concerns.
I have not seen clearly reported in the media the contents of the August 2013 letter. In that regard I have sight of a letter dated August 30, 2013 signed by Eleanor Donaldson-Honeywell, as Solicitor General, addressed to the Prime Minister and headed “Report proposing the need for an investigation into litigation against the State arising from incidents in the Prison Service”. This, then, appears to be the letter that is the source of the controversy.
In that letter the then SG begins by stating that her purpose is to bring to the attention of the authorities the need for an investigation into circumstances that may “amount to breaches of professional ethics by the attorneys involved” that may have the effect of perverting the course of justice in litigation against the State. In the next paragraph she speaks to the concerns she has, as reported in the media, and refers to the implications for national security and the civil law function of defending the State. She says these may manifest in de-motivating State attorneys and prison officers and diminishing their reputation.
Thereafter Ms Donaldson-Honeywell states, “There are three main circumstances that can be highlighted” that point to the need for the investigation into the alleged unethical business venture. She proceeds to list them.

The first circumstance
She cites “the retainer of attorneys-at-law previously engaged on a large scale basis in prison litigation against the State to instead represent the State in defending certain civil law claims while continuing to act against the State in prison matters”. She says “in at least one such matter” where such an attorney acted against the State, lawyers from the Civil Law Department brought to her attention evidence of “cut and paste” practices in using the same set of alleged injuries for different alleged victims. When this was brought to the attention of the court by the State attorney the lawyer concerned wrote a letter to the AG threatening to report the State lawyer to the Law Association (LATT).
The matter referred to here might very well be the case of Jamal Sambury v the AG where in February 2014 Master of the Court Patricia Sobion-Awai, said in respect of statements filed in February 2013 by the claimant: “In this case I found that the claimant was guilty of abuse of the process of the court insofar as he had copied extensively from the witness statement of another litigant”. As far as the former SG’s complaint is concerned, however, it is important to note that while an external attorney retained to appear for the State in one matter should not have a conflict of interest in that matter, he is free to represent persons in other matters against the State. This is a normal occurrence in legal practice. What is mystifying, however, is why the more pressing issue of the abuse of process in copying witness statements in a litigated matter was reported to the PM and not to the disciplinary committee of the LATT which regulates ethical matters.

The Second and
Third circumstances
The next matter cited by Ms Donaldson-Honeywell followed from the fact that the AG had recommended that a legal officer in the Prison Service, who apparently worked with State lawyers in prison matters, should do his in-service internship with the ministry. Thereafter the legal officer instead took up an internship with a lawyer who engaged in litigation against the State in prison matters. The former SG says she wrote to the Prison Commissioner about this but the individual wrote threatening to report her to the LATT for aspersions to his ethics.
The final circumstance cited by the then SG is the lengthiest but has more to do with what she terms “blatant advertisement” on the part of attorneys involved in prison litigation which she saw as intending to prop up their business.

She refers to newspaper articles extolling the success of such actions against the State from 2002 and the failure to report the fact that the State had in the past year been successful in defending most of actions in prison litigation. Ms Donaldson-Honeywell rues the fact of “this lop-sided PR” and complains that the AG did not support attempts to put out press releases and “PR” on behalf of the State in cases in which the Prison Service were shown not to have been liable in tort.
Those are the three “main circumstances” that the then SG highlights as pointing to the need for an investigation. That might well be but an investigation by whom and into what? In all three cases it appears she is referring to ethical breaches of the Code of Conduct: abuse of process; conflict of interest and advertising, which ought to be considered by the disciplinary committee of the Law Association.
If there is evidence of “an unethical business venture engaged in by attorneys-at-law” acting for prisoners or of “key office holders” taking action to support the unethical business for financial gain, why has she not referred to it?

• Dana S Seetahal is a former independent senator

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/commenta ... 51001.html

[Daran]

rfari,

Based on Dana's last article, I infer that Eleanor Donaldson-Honeywell may have orchestrated this hit.

[rfari]

rfari,

Based on Dana's last article, I infer that Eleanor Donaldson-Honeywell may have orchestrated this hit.

interesting. go on...build your point...

[killercow]

rfari,

Based on Dana's last article, I infer that Eleanor Donaldson-Honeywell may have orchestrated this hit.

interesting. go on...build your point...

X2
Would really like to hear this one..

[supercharged turbo]

Awaiting point

[skylinechild]

Dougla_Boy: There are things in the spiritual realm you do not understand.

Anyways, things in the spiritual sometimes manifest in the physical.