CORPORAL PUNISHMENT IN SCHOOLS

[TURBO PEOPLE]

I think we all have heard an know what goes on in our Public Schools in Trinidad & Tobago today..Do you think that Corporal Punishment should be reintroduce back also Morning & Evening Prays in our Public Schools... Just reflect on how it was in Public Schools before an after abolished...


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if thread has already be made feel free to remove.cause i couldn't find any thing on this topic..

[TURBO PEOPLE]

I think if the school is a "LEARNING" institute, correction of misbehavior an discipline should be part of that learning experience....just my view

[fouljuice]

Too late for that now.
See what go happen to yourself, your vehicle or your family if you hit somebody chile.
They need a mobile police post in each school.

[janfar]

Turbo people. Did they also remove Grammar from your school???

[pluggie]

Do you think that Corporal Punishment should be reintroduce back also Morning & Evening Prays in our Public Schools...

Turbo people. Did they also remove Grammar from your school???

He probably just need to be reintroduce back to it ... If that impossible then we can do some Morning & Evening Prays for him...

[nervewrecker]

I'd love to spank some of those underage girls.....

[RIPEBREDFRUIT]

Yes it should be reintroduced!- it worked in our days. kept us in check and it can do the same still.

[saxman642]

Too late for that now.
See what go happen to yourself, your vehicle or your family if you hit somebody chile.
They need a mobile police post in each school.

THIS

In some schools this is already a reality.

I heard of a teacher who lost her job at a school in Diego martin for defending herself against a student who physically attacked her.

Student get off scot free on that 'technicality' and was boasting all over the school after.

[pete]

Too late for that now.
See what go happen to yourself, your vehicle or your family if you hit somebody chile.
They need a mobile police post in each school.

THIS

In some schools this is already a reality.

I heard of a teacher who lost her job at a school in Diego martin for defending herself against a student who physically attacked her.

Student get off scot free on that 'technicality' and was boasting all over the school after.

Why doesn't the union do something about these things? All they're there for is salary negotiations?

[RIPEBREDFRUIT]

Too late for that now.
See what go happen to yourself, your vehicle or your family if you hit somebody chile.
They need a mobile police post in each school.

THIS

In some schools this is already a reality.

I heard of a teacher who lost her job at a school in Diego martin for defending herself against a student who physically attacked her.

Student get off scot free on that 'technicality' and was boasting all over the school after.

Why doesn't the union do something about these things? All they're there for is salary negotiations!!!!!.

[javishm]

Yes it should be reintroduced!- it worked in our days. kept us in check and it can do the same still.

i remember the days when i use to get cut arse in school....it worked for me

[Les Bain]

Too late for that now.
See what go happen to yourself, your vehicle or your family if you hit somebody chile.
They need a mobile police post in each school.

THIS

In some schools this is already a reality.

I heard of a teacher who lost her job at a school in Diego martin for defending herself against a student who physically attacked her.

Student get off scot free on that 'technicality' and was boasting all over the school after.

Why doesn't the union do something about these things? All they're there for is salary negotiations!!!!!.

I'll have you know that they also stand up for lazy employees with stink cnut attitudes, mister. Know what you talking about.

[~*Pãñdorą*~]

Yes it should be reintroduced!- it worked in our days. kept us in check and it can do the same still.

I think it should be brought back too..
Then I get shudders when I remember the one or two teachers in my school who went a little too far with their "discipline" at times.

But there is no doubt a direct link between the generations who had no Corporal Punishment to deal with and Criminal Behaviour.

[Invisible]

Corporal punishment is just 'band-aid' for a symptom. The problem actually stems from the system. You see when it was introduced, 'Education for All' and 'No Child Left Behind' it was all a big hype showing the 'caring' government of the day. When, in actuality, it was one of the worst things you could have done for the education system.

Why put a child through the rigors of Secondary school academics when they couldn't even perform at a primary level. This frustrates the child and he in turn becomes a distraction for the ones who can actually learn. Eventually some of act out resulting it the upsurge in violence in schools. This coupled with the Ministry's policy of NO EXPULSIONS has the situation as it is today.

Don't get me wrong I am an avid believer that 'Every Child can Learn', but learn what? Everyone can't be doctors, lawyers, managers, engineers, etc. Gone are the days when kids learn a 'trade' cus they can't cut it in school.

Just my comments....carry on.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

the primary responsibility for discipline rests with parents...don't expect others to do it for you.

this

teachers are only there to correct children during the day.Morals and values should/must be passed on from parents

[Average]

They should have never stopped it in the first place. Was it not Kamla who at the time was Min of Education who stopped licks in schools?
The waywardness starts from there and perpetuates to the type of crime we have at present.

Jack pretty much said it all in this piece from 2012 :

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/_I_ ... 85705.html

"I rue the day that they stop beating in schools.... I rue the day that you go to school and there's no accountability whether there is work or not," said Warner.

He noted that with the exception of denominational schools, prayers were no longer being said.
He said that children today did not know the basics, such as the lyrics of the National Anthem or National Birds.

"Where have we gone wrong? Because what we are reaping today is what we have sown years ago," said Warner.
He said his childhood days were different to what exists now as he recollected that back then, he went to church every Sunday and was in bed very early at nights.

"We never understood then what it meant to wear our pants on the buttocks; in fact, our buttocks was only for licks, it wasn't to carry any pants, and coming very soon, I shall be attacking those guys who carry their pants on the buttocks... because those are the kinds of patterns that cause indiscipline," said Warner.

He noted that today, teenagers were going home at late hours and parents make no intervention.
"I ask myself, what is a ten-, 11-year-old doing at 12.20 a.m. outside? At my age, at 10 (p.m.) , I used to be on my second dream. I ask myself, how do we explain a mother saying...I will much prefer a criminal kill him (her son) than the police," said Warner.

"The most important thing in the fight against crime is better parenting.... We have to go back to basics.... Simple things like 'thanks' and 'please', 'excuse me', 'good morning', 'good evening', 'good night'," he said.

[ADONI]

When corporal punishment was removed, the idiots didn't think to have it replaced with a substitute. They could have introduced something like after school detention.

[Average]

When corporal punishment was removed, the idiots didn't think to have it replaced with a substitute. They could have introduced something like after school detention.

Not a bad idea...but with the looseness of both teachers and students right now, that woulda have dem schoolgirls bennin real toe-tee after hours.

[RIPEBREDFRUIT]

When corporal punishment was removed, the idiots didn't think to have it replaced with a substitute. They could have introduced something like after school detention.

If youre going along that route , then maybe more like a Community service after hour mandatory where you learn and experience different "trades" and "skills" in the same process, and no I don't mean gun making...

[VexXx Dogg]

what prayers would you say at a government school?
Suppose I'm an atheist? How would prayers work?

I'm all for bringing back corporal punishment, but there should be a framework around it.

I remember getting licks with poui, belt, fanbelt, down to threats with hammer in my school days. From Teachers. That is unacceptable, even though I eh turn out too bad.

[RIPEBREDFRUIT]

if the punishment is re instituted in schools, it can be regulated in such a way that ONLY the DEAN, principal or vice principal may administer the cut-arse, that's how it was in secondary school.

and if a parent has a problem with their child getting licks in school find another school to put your child in, if you attack a school employee as a result of this, instant JAIL.

[88sins]

replacing corporal punishment with after school menial labor would be a better method.

When they offend put them to empty garbage, clean/mop toilets & sweep the yard for a hour after school in a bright orange vest & let their friends see them doin their time. They might just ask for the licks & done to get it over wit faster

[Toilet Cleaner]

This was discussed already and some people thought I was being unreasonable when I said that they should forget about corporal punishment, and instead bring Capital punishment in schools.

Times change and these uncivilised criminals will only respond to uncivilised treatment.
Start hanging dem muddass one time when they do sheit in school and you will see how quickly all schools will become 'prestige' schools.

But of course this would never happen.

[Ted_v2]

I'm all for bringing back corporal punishment, but there should be a framework around it.

this
i remember a kid in my class got a lash in his neck with a stick and he got damaged badly.

He all kinda forq up now

[zoom rader]

We have teachers that can't teach.
Teachers with mental problems that take it out on kids.
Teachers with all sorts of problems, home, horn, financial ect and on the receiving end it's kids that ends up with the abuse. Corporal punishment is wrong on all accounts and should never be brought up, just as slavery is all wrong.

Yes kids have problems, some are slow learners and should never be subjected to getting lick cause they can't keep up with the rest of the class. I saw classmates got licks because they had learning difficulties and the teachers were to dumb to understand what dyslexics is.

Then you have kids that have family problems and are disruptive in class or are bullies. This is where social workers are needed to help the family and kid.

Corporal punishment does not solve the problems between teachers and kids.

[redmanjp]

We have teachers that can't teach.
Teachers with mental problems that take it out on kids.
Teachers with all sorts of problems, home, horn, financial ect and on the receiving end it's kids that ends up with the abuse. Corporal punishment is wrong on all accounts and should never be brought up, just as slavery is all wrong.

Yes kids have problems, some are slow learners and should never be subjected to getting lick cause they can't keep up with the rest of the class. I saw classmates got licks because they had learning difficulties and the teachers were to dumb to understand what dyslexics is.

Then you have kids that have family problems and are disruptive in class or are bullies. This is where social workers are needed to help the family and kid.

Corporal punishment does not solve the problems between teachers and kids.

america solves the problem by giving them Ritalin

[bluefete]

We have teachers that can't teach.
Teachers with mental problems that take it out on kids.
Teachers with all sorts of problems, home, horn, financial ect and on the receiving end it's kids that ends up with the abuse. Corporal punishment is wrong on all accounts and should never be brought up, just as slavery is all wrong.

Yes kids have problems, some are slow learners and should never be subjected to getting lick cause they can't keep up with the rest of the class. I saw classmates got licks because they had learning difficulties and the teachers were to dumb to understand what dyslexics is.

Then you have kids that have family problems and are disruptive in class or are bullies. This is where social workers are needed to help the family and kid.

Corporal punishment does not solve the problems between teachers and kids.

Says Tantie Kamla's spokesperson!!!

Discipline starts at home. Parents with no discipline raise indisciplined children.

There are teachers in the system who do not recognise the social and emotional problems that some children have.

Generally, since Tantie Kamla's famous pronouncement goaded on by Diana Mahabir-Wyatt about removing corp[oral punishment from schools, children rule.

Imagine big hard-back male and female teachers hiding in the staff room from badly behaved little children. This is what you are for ZR????

You cannot give them a spanking. Abuse! You cannot put them in the sun. Abuse! You cannot put them to stand up in the garbage bin. Abuse! You cannot speak too hard at them. Abuse! You cannot speak too soft at them. Abuse! You cannot put them to stand up on the desk. Abuse! You cannot put them to stand up with their hands in the air. Abuse!

I am a strong believer in corporal punishment administered under firm guidelines! That will swiftly return some form of normalcy to our schools.

[nemisis]

Corporal punishment not doing a thing, in my day they still had it and I could care less going to school, getting pull into the office while you find out if they calling your parents did a lot more damage than any guava whip could

[X_Factor]

back then it wasnt the corporal punishment that did the trick really, it was the fear of getting it and the teacher/principal/parent all of them would be on your case if you did something wrong

now...the teachers cant do one thing without fear of suspension/ job loss
and MOST parents are so caught up in their own lives they use technology as the parent and most of the time again, its not monitored

i know of kids who actually talk with the accent of characters on television

[nemisis]

, ^^^ better than a Jamaican accent or worst yet slang