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[Slaughta69]

Anyone selling their i5.

[Aaron 2NR]

May send mine by the end of the mth

[Slaughta69]

May send mine by the end of the mth

Cool but need one this week

[Cid]

Congratulations guyz... For apple being the worlds top brand and beating coke for the first time since the list was created.....

[bolo23]

Jm3

I spoke to apple csr and they told me that the tmobile version is sim unlocked but the phone is locked to tmobile for 24 months and it can't be used until the period is up

[SRASC]

See that there is confusion about whether or not the T-Mobile sold iPhone 5s from Apple.com.

As far as I know Apple (in the US) only starts selling the iPhone unlocked in November, but Apple Canada, UK among other places start selling them in that configuration from day 1 (in this case September 20th).

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Apple csrs say one thing but the evidence is quite contrary. There is nothing called sim unlocked yet locked to one carrier. Nothing. Look thru the link I posted above and you will see that Apple does not lock full priced phones bought thru the apple store.

In fact you can buy a full priced AT&T iPhone 5s thru apple and it will be unlocked. People have bought full prices tmobile 5s and immediately used AT&T sims this proving what that csr said as wrong. The csrs in America don't consistently know what they are talking about on this matter.

[bolo23]

U guys know anyone who bought the tmobile version? Just want to be sure before I spend that kind of money

[SRASC]

Honestly I am still not entirely convinced, though the majority opinion is that they are indeed unlocked. The various CSRs between Apple & T-Mobile making conflicting conclusions doesn't help matters. Though the T-Mobile price is the same as the unlocked iPhones have eventually sold for when they are released at $649 USD.

As I know it iPhones are sold in 4 configurations (re: 16GB model)
$099 - 2 year deal (T-Mobile)
$199 - 2 year contract (AT&T, Verizon, Sprint)
$599 - no contract, but locked (AT&T, Verizon, Sprint)
$649 - no contract, unlocked (& apparently now T-Mobile)

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Well I ordered the Tmobile full price one but it's by a friend in the US. When I get it here will activate and post pics but that ain't gonna be for another couple weeks at least.

Tmobile CSRs have a mandate to sell contracts plain and simple. It's how the company makes money. I suspect in the US Apple just doesn't mention the words factory unlocked for the initial phase just to pacify carriers trying to lock in as many customers as possible to a contract.

It should be noted that iPhones don't come locked per se from Apple. They lock at activation. This explains why both AT&T and Tmobile 5s iphones (which are exactly the same model) work with either sim when the phone is purchased at full price. Verizon 5s also comes GSM unlocked by law so that is also another safe bet for an unlocked iphone if you do not need to use the CDMA part.

[Invisible]

Well I ordered the Tmobile full price one but it's by a friend in the US. When I get it here will activate and post pics but that ain't gonna be for another couple weeks at least.

Tmobile CSRs have a mandate to sell contracts plain and simple. It's how the company makes money. I suspect in the US Apple just doesn't mention the words factory unlocked for the initial phase just to pacify carriers trying to lock in as many customers as possible to a contract.

It should be noted that iPhones don't come locked per se from Apple. They lock at activation. This explains why both AT&T and Tmobile 5s iphones (which are exactly the same model) work with either sim when the phone is purchased at full price. Verizon 5s also comes GSM unlocked by law so that is also another safe bet for an unlocked iphone if you do not need to use the CDMA part.

That's right. The 5 I bought last year was from Verizon.

[bolo23]

So I can go ahead and purchase the tmobile full price version with no problems?

[SRASC]

That's the apparent case from what I've been told.

[Swisha]

"If you buy iPhone for T-Mobile, it will arrive with a nano-SIM card already installed that you can activate by visiting an Apple Retail Store or a T-Mobile store or by calling T-Mobile. When you travel internationally, you can use a nano-SIM card for iPhone 5s from a local GSM carrier."

[bolo23]

Thanks for the info guys, will order it now

[pioneer]

iMessages not sending...have to end up rebooting phone

Seems to be happening too often...happening to other people too

[Aaron 2NR]

yep mine as well

[knorgriff]

Anyone have a problem with Skype while using it? Anytime i switch to a next app my Skype call gets disconnected

[mojosodope]

iMessages not sending...have to end up rebooting phone

Seems to be happening too often...happening to other people too

Happening to me too, along with a couple restarts today, 4S 7.0.2

http://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/30/res ... -in-ios-7/

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

not experiencing this on iPhone 5 with iOS 7.
iMessage sending normally

[ryan99tt]

Yea, no problem for me to an i on i5 as well...wat i read is that alot of ppl experiencing this problem an they releasing an update soon...

[Aaron 2NR]

Apple is gonna release a patch soon as per redmonpie article

[PapaC]

iMessage on my iPhone 4 woks normally.

[pioneer]

Andddd it crashed/froze again

Despite a network reset

[besaccent]

Good day any one knows were I could get a otter armor case for iPhone 5 thanks

[air wick]

you can chk iworld at West Mall if all fails locally buy on amazon

[besaccent]

you can chk iworld at West Mall if all fails locally buy on amazon

Thanks

[Bigfoot1040]

Try the lifeproof in iworld it's really a good protection for your phone !!!

[eitech]

How much iworld has d lifeproof for?

[pioneer]

So many better options than lifeproof if only people would use the internet


4sigh