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[rfari]

pios the public servant banton.

[De Dragon]

It seems like the general public, the DPP, Dana Sitahal, Martin Daly, Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj, and quite possibly every special interest group is calling for an international, independent investigation. Why isn't the gov't listening?

It is not just that we believe the police is incompetent, we just do not want a reason for the outcome to be claimed by either party to be tainted with political influence.

Rowley can't make irresponsible statements like he doesn't 'trust' the Asst. COP. Then goes on to give an entirely one sided version of a conversation he allegedly had with Richardson about the PM assassination plot, in which he makes the Asst. COP not only look incompetent, but bumbling as well. A lot of people who should know better are casually besmirching people's name without a shred of evidence. I have lost much of the respect I had for Dana Seetahal, and now Martin Daly, who are now blatantly saying that the COP cannot be impartial because he was appointed by the Government.

[BrandoHD]

It seems like the general public, the DPP, Dana Sitahal, Martin Daly, Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj, and quite possibly every special interest group is calling for an international, independent investigation. Why isn't the gov't listening?

It is not just that we believe the police is incompetent, we just do not want a reason for the outcome to be claimed by either party to be tainted with political influence.

Rowley can't make irresponsible statements like he doesn't 'trust' the Asst. COP. Then goes on to give an entirely one sided version of a conversation he allegedly had with Richardson about the PM assassination plot, in which he makes the Asst. COP not only look incompetent, but bumbling as well. A lot of people who should know better are casually besmirching people's name without a shred of evidence. I have lost much of the respect I had for Dana Seetahal, and now Martin Daly, who are now blatantly saying that the COP cannot be impartial because he was appointed by the Government.

Who says they don't have a shred of evidence, a lot of people are privy to information that they can't/won't speak about in the open, more so politicians. People can behave and speak according to what they know, consciously or unconsciously, without letting everyone else know why they are behaving the way they are, he may have very good information to make what you call an irresponsible statement, that is, until you have the info he has

[De Dragon]

It seems like the general public, the DPP, Dana Sitahal, Martin Daly, Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj, and quite possibly every special interest group is calling for an international, independent investigation. Why isn't the gov't listening?

It is not just that we believe the police is incompetent, we just do not want a reason for the outcome to be claimed by either party to be tainted with political influence.

Rowley can't make irresponsible statements like he doesn't 'trust' the Asst. COP. Then goes on to give an entirely one sided version of a conversation he allegedly had with Richardson about the PM assassination plot, in which he makes the Asst. COP not only look incompetent, but bumbling as well. A lot of people who should know better are casually besmirching people's name without a shred of evidence. I have lost much of the respect I had for Dana Seetahal, and now Martin Daly, who are now blatantly saying that the COP cannot be impartial because he was appointed by the Government.

Who says they don't have a shred of evidence, a lot of people are privy to information that they can't/won't speak about in the open, more so politicians. People can behave and speak according to what they know, consciously or unconsciously, without letting everyone else know why they are behaving the way they are, he may have very good information to make what you call an irresponsible statement, that is, until you have the info he has

You're kidding right? Politicians have slandered more people under the guise of parliamentary privilege than you can count. Copy and paste email whose veracity cannot be ascertained is not evidence. Saying that you don't trust the Police to investigate is also irresponsible as they are the body entrusted with that responsibility whether Rowley likes that or not. The Police can bring in an independent body of their choosing if they lack the wherewithal to investigate this matter.

[RedTiger]

" The DPP said after a meeting with Richardson ... the Police Service may be singularly and particularly hamstrung in their attempts, though gallant, to conduct a full and through investigation.”

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2013-05- ... o-it-alone

[De Dragon]

" The DPP said after a meeting with Richardson ... the Police Service may be singularly and particularly hamstrung in their attempts, though gallant, to conduct a full and through investigation.”

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2013-05- ... o-it-alone

Again, they can bring in independent experts if there are questions about their lack of ability or expertise. We risk going down a treacherous path if we set this precedent now of selectively giving TTPS cases to investigate based on any politicians' 'trust' of them.

[rollingstock]

^ Exactly. The TTPS has a competent team assigned to the Cyber crime unit, made up of qualified police and civilian employees.
But I wouldn't be surprised if external help is sought just to appease politicians.

Slippery slope that, if they are deemed unqualified to investigate the veracity of simple e-mails, how can they then continue to operate and investigate crimes committed against citizens?

[De Dragon]

^ Exactly. The TTPS has a competent team assigned to the Cyber crime unit, made up of qualified police and civilian employees.
But I wouldn't be surprised if external help is sought just to appease politicians.

Slippery slope that, if they are deemed unqualified to investigate the veracity of simple e-mails, how can they then continue to operate and investigate crimes committed against citizens?

But careless politicians, lawyers, etc will continue to denigrate hard working honest policemen and women to score cheap political and brownie points

[eliteauto]

^ Exactly. The TTPS has a competent team assigned to the Cyber crime unit, made up of qualified police and civilian employees.
But I wouldn't be surprised if external help is sought just to appease politicians.

Slippery slope that, if they are deemed unqualified to investigate the veracity of simple e-mails, how can they then continue to operate and investigate crimes committed against citizens?

But careless politicians, lawyers, etc will continue to denigrate hard working honest policemen and women to score cheap political and brownie points

small thing because average ignorant civilians with superiority complexes do the same everyday incl right here on the forum

[De Dragon]

^ Exactly. The TTPS has a competent team assigned to the Cyber crime unit, made up of qualified police and civilian employees.
But I wouldn't be surprised if external help is sought just to appease politicians.

Slippery slope that, if they are deemed unqualified to investigate the veracity of simple e-mails, how can they then continue to operate and investigate crimes committed against citizens?

But careless politicians, lawyers, etc will continue to denigrate hard working honest policemen and women to score cheap political and brownie points

small thing because average ignorant civilians with superiority complexes do the same everyday incl right here on the forum

2NR is one thing, these are serious allegations the outcome of which could shift the balance of power drastically toward one of the main parties. This is a high stakes, winner take all battle.

[toyota2nr]

^ Exactly. The TTPS has a competent team assigned to the Cyber crime unit, made up of qualified police and civilian employees.
But I wouldn't be surprised if external help is sought just to appease politicians.

Slippery slope that, if they are deemed unqualified to investigate the veracity of simple e-mails, how can they then continue to operate and investigate crimes committed against citizens?

But careless politicians, lawyers, etc will continue to denigrate hard working honest policemen and women to score cheap political and brownie points

Indeed this can also have the effect of demoralizing the TTPS. I say let the police do their job regardless of what these glory seeking politicians say. We have enough competent people in T&T who can assist the police in their investigation.

[nemisis]

The problem isn't that the police not capable just that they can be influenced by the powers that be

[De Dragon]

The problem isn't that the police not capable just that they can be influenced by the powers that be

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, let TTPS hire the independent experts, let the experts verify the e-mails etc, and lay the report publicly together with the independent expert.

[r3iXmann]

Can't believe such a big deal is being made over this nonsense

Guess Rowleys distraction worked after all

[nemisis]

Can't believe such a big deal is being made over this nonsense

Guess Rowleys distraction worked after all

what he distracting us from?

[pioneer]

that he is ah tuntun

[r3iXmann]

that he is ah tuntun

That and all the other real issues that we should be focused on. But trinis love bachannal so I guess he just giving d ppl Wha dey want

[bluefete]

So why would the TTPS seek outside help when they were the ones who ran the "foreign" Canadians out of T&T?

The mere fact that they would seek help from outside sources to investigate politicians would put the CoP job on the line - not so? Not to mention - how it go look?

BTW - It is not unknown for the TTPS to seek Interpol help in certain cases.

[RedTiger]

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[K74T]

Nah

[pioneer]

nah boy redtiger

[RedTiger]

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[K74T]

Plsgo.

[t12]

Then Bring back GIBBS.....

[pioneer]

RedTiger,

[BrandoHD]

It seems like the general public, the DPP, Dana Sitahal, Martin Daly, Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj, and quite possibly every special interest group is calling for an international, independent investigation. Why isn't the gov't listening?

It is not just that we believe the police is incompetent, we just do not want a reason for the outcome to be claimed by either party to be tainted with political influence.

Rowley can't make irresponsible statements like he doesn't 'trust' the Asst. COP. Then goes on to give an entirely one sided version of a conversation he allegedly had with Richardson about the PM assassination plot, in which he makes the Asst. COP not only look incompetent, but bumbling as well. A lot of people who should know better are casually besmirching people's name without a shred of evidence. I have lost much of the respect I had for Dana Seetahal, and now Martin Daly, who are now blatantly saying that the COP cannot be impartial because he was appointed by the Government.

Who says they don't have a shred of evidence, a lot of people are privy to information that they can't/won't speak about in the open, more so politicians. People can behave and speak according to what they know, consciously or unconsciously, without letting everyone else know why they are behaving the way they are, he may have very good information to make what you call an irresponsible statement, that is, until you have the info he has

You're kidding right? Politicians have slandered more people under the guise of parliamentary privilege than you can count. Copy and paste email whose veracity cannot be ascertained is not evidence. Saying that you don't trust the Police to investigate is also irresponsible as they are the body entrusted with that responsibility whether Rowley likes that or not. The Police can bring in an independent body of their choosing if they lack the wherewithal to investigate this matter.

You guys living in a dream world, here in Trinidad, information is suppressed, outcomes of cases have been controlled, and there are only a few who go against the grain and try to uphold the absolute letter of the law, and they have also been put under pressure to look the other way on multiple occasions. If you don't want to accept that, no problem, but this is a fact.

And here you are claiming the emails are not evidence, what was Rowley supposed to do with it, shred it and forget it, you're the sort that we don't want as any part of the investigation, because when one sets out with their result already in mind, they would work hard to make it come through. And as I said before, these guys are privy to information that you do not have, obviously, because if you had the information, you wouldn't trust the ACP ever, of this I am sure.

Funny thing is, you guys won't even trust the police to investigate the robbery of your own home, but ready to drop this case in their hands, no caveats, lol.

[pioneer]

conspiracytheory/10

[~Vēġó~]

AWWWWWW kitty!!!!!!

[RedTiger]

" Acting Commissioner of Police Stephen Williams told the Sunday Express the interviews were purely “voluntary”, and the pace of the investigation will depend on the availability and co-operation of the office holders to be interviewed. "

" Asked why can’t the police set the agenda and schedule fixed interviews, Williams said, “Because an interview is a voluntary thing.” "

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/PRO ... 72821.html

[pioneer]

de man right