TECH Thread - MITSUBISHI L200, Sportero, Triton.

[zaria]

question: anyone knows if the glow plugs in the k74[t] are wired in series or parallel?

SERIES-PARALLEL

I only seeing parallel there??

[venum]

looking at that pic from L to R

the current wire is connected on plug #2

all the plugs get current the same time because the conductor is connected to each plug at the same time - hence parallel

but not redundantly

so if the conductor was to be broken between plug #2 and #3 then plug #3 and #4 will NOT get current - hence series

someone with some knowledge in electrical circuits can verify

[vincentcostales]

Hi Guys,

Firstly, let me introduce myself. Im vincent from Macau. I not really a fan of trucks or 4x4 but I suddendly starting to like this L200 sportero. So I have ordered one. The only thing I dont like about this truck is it's stock wheels. I think they are to small for it's body size. The tires are pretty tucked in the fender which i really don't like. I have been reading the earlier threads as I search for topics about tires upgrade. I have read some suggesting 265/70/16 and 265/70/17. I wonder if this tires will fit the stock rims. Do I have to increase the height with this set? I hope you guys can help. Just to mention, I'm not car newbie. I do fix my own car but I am totally new to pick-up trucks so I am getting as many information as I possible. If someone can give me information about the bolt pattern as I am planning to use wheel spacers just incase i dont feel satisfied with the stance. I really the look ofr the wheel leveled with the edge of a fender (Wide look). I am not going to do off-road stuff so I am worried about installing wheel spacer on my pick-up truck. Sorry for the ignorance.

Thank you so much in advance.

Regards,

Vincent

[MadCrix]

Firstly, those two tires sizes you posted are different Tim sizes so unless you buy new rims, at least one or even both of those tires will not fit

[vincentcostales]

Just a quick question. As I have mentioned to my earlier post that I am getting an L200 Sportero. Since I dislike the wheel stance of the factory wheels, I will go for spacers while a wait for the new rims. My trusted wheel spacers are H&R and Eibach. I have used them on my Camaro with no problems. However, as per my research, the only bolt pattern of L200 is 6x139. The H&R and Eibach wheel spacers only comes with 6x139.7 . I wonder if this will fit the L200. Hope someone can share some light here. Thanks.

Vincent

[zaria]

looking at that pic from L to R

the current wire is connected on plug #2

all the plugs get current the same time because the conductor is connected to each plug at the same time - hence parallel

but not redundantly

so if the conductor was to be broken between plug #2 and #3 then plug #3 and #4 will NOT get current - hence series

someone with some knowledge in electrical circuits can verify

I see ur point,but series would mean if one component fails then all component in circuit will be off.
This is not the case here,if one glow plug burns out the rest will function fine,Yes if the conductor burns some will not work,but the conductor was not designed to act as fusible link,besides glow plugs require as high voltage as possible(within range) to function properly,putting them in series will be bad.

[venum]

zaria I understand you and agree mostly

I said series-parallel, because part of the circuit is series and part parallel:

check this out for a better explanation:

This circuit is neither simple series nor simple parallel. Rather, it contains elements of both. The current exits the bottom of the battery, splits up to travel through R3 and R4, rejoins, then splits up again to travel through R1 and R2, then rejoins again to return to the top of the battery. There exists more than one path for current to travel (not series), yet there are more than two sets of electrically common points in the circuit (not parallel).

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_7/1.html

the last circuit diagram (a series-parallel combination circuit)kinda like the glow plugs wiring

R1 and R2 are like plugs #1 and #2 (L-R in my pic)

and R3 and R4 are like plugs #3 and #4

I am not electrically qualified though, so subject to correction

[DVSTT]

Guys, would these fit behind the tweeter grill on the front doors on the triton?
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-TS-T110-8 ... neer+ts110

[venum]

looks kinda big

[VexXx Dogg]

Curious:

What are the largest tyres that an fit on the stock sportero 2.5 16" alloys?
A/T's

Checking a 4x4 sportero, and it needs new tyres; looking at options before I make my decision.

[venum]

^^^

stock is 265/70/16

275/70/16 fits without any issue, but steering gets stiffer

guys are running 265/75/18 without issues

I have even seen 285's with 20" rims, but that is just powersteering and suspension issues waiting to happen

[VexXx Dogg]

dont mind a stiff steering, once I wont damage anything or rub.
275/70 R16 sounds good then, is there an option to run the 31x10.5x16 as well?

I dont care to run bigger rims, want more meat though, sticking with stock wheels for the while.

[VexXx Dogg]

* assuming I buy this one, let me not get ahead of myself, lol

[simpleandtrue]

Hey, anyone every changed the glow plugs on thier Sportero? Any links or idea on how difficult a job this is?

[sweeks]

Ques: the new Sportero being advertise for $217000... Is that a 4x2 or 4x4?

I was wondering what's the catch.

[VexXx Dogg]

I got on to a DM sales rep
219 is the 4x4 manual.
255 is the 4x4 auto

They claim that is 'discounted' price, so I expect it to go up again soon.

BUT the new toyota auto 4x4 is 255, and if I had that amount of cash, that is what I'd buy - hands down.

[venum]

dont mind a stiff steering, once I wont damage anything or rub.
275/70 R16 sounds good then, is there an option to run the 31x10.5x16 as well?

I dont care to run bigger rims, want more meat though, sticking with stock wheels for the while.

31x10.5x16 is LT equivalent to 245/75/16 metric

so the stock rims should take it with no issues for touching etc

compare here:

http://ramchargercentral.com/suspension ... ize-chart/

stiff steering = more strain on powersteering pump and rack

plenty buddies on teh L200 Owners Club running 275 without issues

the added load of 285's however . . . well I expect issues over long term usage

[FilterProz]

hey guys don't know if you saw the news with the two guys who got killed in guanapo last night one of them Jerome was a member of our community I met him on this forum sold him parts for his Triton. Up to Wednesday Afternoon I spoke and dropped off parts for him.. Have to watch your back out here now..

Keep safe guys this country getting real dangerous ...

[sweeks]

I got on to a DM sales rep
219 is the 4x4 manual.
255 is the 4x4 auto

They claim that is 'discounted' price, so I expect it to go up again soon.

BUT the new toyota auto 4x4 is 255, and if I had that amount of cash, that is what I'd buy - hands down.

Newspaper ad said tip tropic for $217000.... False advertising again?

$255000 for the auto 2.5? 3.2 still available?

Power delivery and features on the 2.5 Hilux and Sportero like day and night ?....

[sweeks]

hey guys don't know if you saw the news with the two guys who got killed in guanapo last night one of them Jerome was a member of our community I met him on this forum sold him parts for his Triton. Up to Wednesday Afternoon I spoke and dropped off parts for him.. Have to watch your back out here now..

Keep safe guys this country getting real dangerous ...

Thanks FP. I trying to figure out what causing the upsurge in crime.

[DVSTT]

^^^

stock is 265/70/16

275/70/16 fits without any issue, but steering gets stiffer

guys are running 265/75/18 without issues

I have even seen 285's with 20" rims, but that is just powersteering and suspension issues waiting to happen

What about 265 in front and 275 at the back on stock 3.2l rims? Just to give it a bit more grip

[FilterProz]

hey guys don't know if you saw the news with the two guys who got killed in guanapo last night one of them Jerome was a member of our community I met him on this forum sold him parts for his Triton. Up to Wednesday Afternoon I spoke and dropped off parts for him.. Have to watch your back out here now..

Keep safe guys this country getting real dangerous ...

Thanks FP. I trying to figure out what causing the upsurge in crime.

Yeah buddy up to wednesday morning I talking to venum and asking him where to get bolts for this guy triton and ah day after man get taken out ...

As for the tritons the 2012 models I supply parts for NGC aka badged "triton" only come 2.5cc(those are CNG and only available to that client for now, but are different from the 2.5 sportero sold by DM Diamond motors. I am not sure if the 3.2 are still available. This new model sold by DM uses the same oil filter but the fuel filter from the Older low rider sportero not the DENSO japanese fuel filter anymore. I have gotten feedback from a Few of the NGC customers that the CNG vans even on diesel are more more powerful and responsive that the older 2.5 sporteros.

will post more info as it comes to hand.

[Val]

I had switched from 275 back down to 265 and didn't regret it. Better handling, grip in mud, and softer steering.
the 275 just looked better, and both were ATs.

The new 2.5 is much more powerful than the old 2.5 and even the 3.2.

If I had to buy a replacement van now, it would still be the Sportero (with the long tray and high output 2.5). Those new wheels, are they 17 or 16?

[catalan24]

^^it comes with 17's but a lower profile tyre...245/something/17

[venum]

What about 265 in front and 275 at the back on stock 3.2l rims? Just to give it a bit more grip

all rims are teh same 2.5 or 3.2L

shitz FP, i remember we were talking about his Triton, may he RIP

Fellas, no local 3.2L anymore

high output 2.5L only

and the CNG ones are the same 2.5L with a aftermarket kit - penultimate link doing teh conversions for NGC - spoke to him today

he actually advises against teh 4x2 long bed, says it is spec'ed down

new 2.5L are really more powerful than the older ones

somehow, the new ones don't take me well, i won't buy one

sorry mitsu, i'll stick to the older 2007-2009

if i don't get a good price for my 2007, i keeping her (on some 18"s - 265/60R18)

[sweeks]

3.2 Rocks.....

There's no replacement for displacement !!!

Also heard there were issues with the CNG and diesel ...

The 2.5 is still a decent buy compared to the other model offerings.

[venum]

Also heard there were issues with the CNG and diesel ...

same here

i would run CNG as there is a fuel station my way with it, but i would only do so on a gas engine

how much is the conversion cost

[VexXx Dogg]

Read thru the whole damn thread...whew.
Lotsa info, great stuff.

Pleny dated stuff too, so at the risk of getting flamed.

Where are the <updated> places to get some decent 275/70 R16 on a budget?
Intended usage:
95% Highway/ Daily driven
Occasional trail (basic, not hardcore like you guys)


Muchas gracias.

[venum]

^^^ don't buy A/T for that

buy HT

the A/T will just wear out faster

send budget and we cud advise what u can get

but generally you should cater good tyres at ~$1200 ea

check the Recomendations for 4x4 tyres

[VexXx Dogg]

I was hoping to get some halfway decent tyres for about 4K or so.

What are the good HT's?

I'm seeing a lot of AT and MT mentioned in the thread...