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Who do you believe will win the THA elections?

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Re: THA Elections

Postby zoom rader » February 3rd, 2013, 7:54 pm

Habit7 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:What you may not know is that are more that one groups of Hindu associations. SDMS is the largest hindu body the other groups are far smaller. There is even a PNM hindu group call SWAHA. Any hindus that you see in PNM belong to SWAHA.

PNM history of close ties with Hindus
Story Created: Nov 22, 2012 at 12:01 AM ECT
Story Updated: Nov 22, 2012 at 7:28 AM ECT

The confusion concerning Dr Keith Rowley attending the Divali Nagar celebrations, appropriately dressed for the occasion, is a national non-issue and purely political rhetoric that we in the People's National Movement (PNM) can adequately manage.
The PNM has always acknowledged the value of each section of our national community to nation-building. Over the 56 years of the PNM, our leaders have embraced the Hindu community and developed a good working relationship with the major Hindu and Muslim organisations.
Dr Eric Williams had a very good working relationship with a tower of a man, Mr Bhadase Sagan Maraj, whom he consulted before the Divali holiday was declared in 1964.
Former prime minister Patrick Manning met with the executive of the Maha Sabha in 1991 and maintained a very close relationship with the general secretary, Mr Satnarine Maharaj, during 1991-1995.

On instructions, the then minister of education collaborated very closely with Mr Maharaj and proceeded to renovate and maintain all primary schools of the Maha Sabha. We also saw the construction of the Lakshmi Girls' Hindu College.
Manning worked very closely with the Maha Sabha and Swaha organisations and even apologised to the Hindu community for any perceived misgivings done to them by the PNM. An executive member of Swaha, Pundit Manideo Persad, was also appointed our high commissioner to India from 2002-2010.

I am certain our Hindu community is then fully satisfied that the PNM is very facilitative of each and every ethnic and religious section of our beloved nation.
Dr Rowley and I attended Divali Nagar celebrations on more than two occasions. On one occasion, he addressed the audience. Mrs Joan Yuille-Williams, as then minister of culture, also attended the Nagar.
In 2006, former minister of local government Mr Rennie Dumas approved $450,000 for the construction of a car park at the Nagar.
The PNM cabinet, of which Dr Rowley was a member, approved $500,000 on the recommendation of then minister of local government Mr Jarret Narine for the completion of the Siewdass Sadhu Temple in the Sea in Waterloo.

Dr Keith Rowley always attended Divali celebrations at the home of deceased Kumar Doon Pundit in Arima and at our home at Las Lomas. On November 10, Dr Rowley was our chief guest at Divali celebrations of our Shiva Joyti Temple in Las Lomas No 1. He was well received by the residents.
I can give the national community the assurance that over the years, the voice of my Hindu community is well received, appreciated and respected by the People's National Movement.
We the Ojah-Maharaj family are also fully conscious of our responsibilities to the peaceful and harmonious development of our nation.

Deodath Ojah-Maharaj
Former PNM executive and
member of the Maha Sabha

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/letters/ ... 58801.html

Hopefully this will end all debate...


All that is just a PNM plaster and to cover up the last 50 years of the PNM Mis-dealing with the SDMS.
Look at the all money spent on SDMS is that all they got when PNM was in power since 1956?

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Re: THA Elections

Postby rfari » February 3rd, 2013, 8:04 pm

Why sdms have to be bad begging for money is beyond me. Greed issa hell of a thing.

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Re: THA Elections

Postby zoom rader » February 3rd, 2013, 8:06 pm

rfari wrote:Why sdms have to be bad begging for money is beyond me. Greed issa hell of a thing.

Hindus work and pay taxes, its due to them.

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Re: THA Elections

Postby rfari » February 3rd, 2013, 8:16 pm

zoom rader wrote:
rfari wrote:Why sdms have to be bad begging for money is beyond me. Greed issa hell of a thing.

Hindus work and pay taxes, its due to them.

Orly? So lemme get this straight right. U're saying that the State is obliged to give money to sdms because they pay taxes?

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Re: THA Elections

Postby zoom rader » February 3rd, 2013, 8:25 pm

^^^ The state is obliged to anyone that pay taxes in this country. Once you are a citizen of TT you are share holder and must enjoy the benefits that you have invested in. Since 1956 the PNM has been short changing the SMDS.

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Re: THA Elections

Postby rfari » February 3rd, 2013, 8:32 pm

zoom rader wrote:^^^ The state is obliged to anyone that pay taxes in this country. Once you are a citizen of TT you are share holder and must enjoy the benefits that you have invested in. Since 1956 the PNM has been short changing the SMDS.

Which group has received more than sdms? Since their membership accounts for how much? 15% if so much. Lucky i not pm nah.

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Re: THA Elections

Postby zoom rader » February 3rd, 2013, 8:45 pm

Weather they are 15% of hindus ( hindus are 25% in TT) or Bobo shanti movement they are due an equal share.You gonna have to call Sat to get the list of monies spent on the other groups since 1956. He did a radio a program on this outlining who got what. I think the SDMS and Baptist got the least amont of funds from the PNM.

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Re: THA Elections

Postby rfari » February 3rd, 2013, 9:27 pm

Afaik. Sdms doesnt represent all hindus in trinidad. In any case, its bad begging and i dont agree wth my tax morney supporting bad begging

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Re: THA Elections

Postby pete » February 3rd, 2013, 9:51 pm

Catholics got more than Hindus?

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Re: THA Elections

Postby trini mk5 » February 3rd, 2013, 9:57 pm

steupsss zoom radar please shut up.....

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Re: THA Elections

Postby rfari » February 3rd, 2013, 9:59 pm

pete wrote:Catholics got more than Hindus?

Catholics doh bad beg

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Re: THA Elections

Postby toyota2nr » February 3rd, 2013, 11:11 pm

Habit7 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:What you may not know is that are more that one groups of Hindu associations. SDMS is the largest hindu body the other groups are far smaller. There is even a PNM hindu group call SWAHA. Any hindus that you see in PNM belong to SWAHA.

PNM history of close ties with Hindus
Story Created: Nov 22, 2012 at 12:01 AM ECT
Story Updated: Nov 22, 2012 at 7:28 AM ECT

The confusion concerning Dr Keith Rowley attending the Divali Nagar celebrations, appropriately dressed for the occasion, is a national non-issue and purely political rhetoric that we in the People's National Movement (PNM) can adequately manage.
The PNM has always acknowledged the value of each section of our national community to nation-building. Over the 56 years of the PNM, our leaders have embraced the Hindu community and developed a good working relationship with the major Hindu and Muslim organisations.
Dr Eric Williams had a very good working relationship with a tower of a man, Mr Bhadase Sagan Maraj, whom he consulted before the Divali holiday was declared in 1964.
Former prime minister Patrick Manning met with the executive of the Maha Sabha in 1991 and maintained a very close relationship with the general secretary, Mr Satnarine Maharaj, during 1991-1995.

On instructions, the then minister of education collaborated very closely with Mr Maharaj and proceeded to renovate and maintain all primary schools of the Maha Sabha. We also saw the construction of the Lakshmi Girls' Hindu College.
Manning worked very closely with the Maha Sabha and Swaha organisations and even apologised to the Hindu community for any perceived misgivings done to them by the PNM. An executive member of Swaha, Pundit Manideo Persad, was also appointed our high commissioner to India from 2002-2010.

I am certain our Hindu community is then fully satisfied that the PNM is very facilitative of each and every ethnic and religious section of our beloved nation.
Dr Rowley and I attended Divali Nagar celebrations on more than two occasions. On one occasion, he addressed the audience. Mrs Joan Yuille-Williams, as then minister of culture, also attended the Nagar.
In 2006, former minister of local government Mr Rennie Dumas approved $450,000 for the construction of a car park at the Nagar.
The PNM cabinet, of which Dr Rowley was a member, approved $500,000 on the recommendation of then minister of local government Mr Jarret Narine for the completion of the Siewdass Sadhu Temple in the Sea in Waterloo.

Dr Keith Rowley always attended Divali celebrations at the home of deceased Kumar Doon Pundit in Arima and at our home at Las Lomas. On November 10, Dr Rowley was our chief guest at Divali celebrations of our Shiva Joyti Temple in Las Lomas No 1. He was well received by the residents.
I can give the national community the assurance that over the years, the voice of my Hindu community is well received, appreciated and respected by the People's National Movement.
We the Ojah-Maharaj family are also fully conscious of our responsibilities to the peaceful and harmonious development of our nation.

Deodath Ojah-Maharaj
Former PNM executive and
member of the Maha Sabha

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/letters/ ... 58801.html

Hopefully this will end all debate...


As a member of the PNM you really expect her to say any different? She has to toe the line.

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Re: THA Elections

Postby rfari » February 3rd, 2013, 11:35 pm

toyota2nr wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:What you may not know is that are more that one groups of Hindu associations. SDMS is the largest hindu body the other groups are far smaller. There is even a PNM hindu group call SWAHA. Any hindus that you see in PNM belong to SWAHA.

PNM history of close ties with Hindus
Story Created: Nov 22, 2012 at 12:01 AM ECT
Story Updated: Nov 22, 2012 at 7:28 AM ECT

The confusion concerning Dr Keith Rowley attending the Divali Nagar celebrations, appropriately dressed for the occasion, is a national non-issue and purely political rhetoric that we in the People's National Movement (PNM) can adequately manage.
The PNM has always acknowledged the value of each section of our national community to nation-building. Over the 56 years of the PNM, our leaders have embraced the Hindu community and developed a good working relationship with the major Hindu and Muslim organisations.
Dr Eric Williams had a very good working relationship with a tower of a man, Mr Bhadase Sagan Maraj, whom he consulted before the Divali holiday was declared in 1964.
Former prime minister Patrick Manning met with the executive of the Maha Sabha in 1991 and maintained a very close relationship with the general secretary, Mr Satnarine Maharaj, during 1991-1995.

On instructions, the then minister of education collaborated very closely with Mr Maharaj and proceeded to renovate and maintain all primary schools of the Maha Sabha. We also saw the construction of the Lakshmi Girls' Hindu College.
Manning worked very closely with the Maha Sabha and Swaha organisations and even apologised to the Hindu community for any perceived misgivings done to them by the PNM. An executive member of Swaha, Pundit Manideo Persad, was also appointed our high commissioner to India from 2002-2010.

I am certain our Hindu community is then fully satisfied that the PNM is very facilitative of each and every ethnic and religious section of our beloved nation.
Dr Rowley and I attended Divali Nagar celebrations on more than two occasions. On one occasion, he addressed the audience. Mrs Joan Yuille-Williams, as then minister of culture, also attended the Nagar.
In 2006, former minister of local government Mr Rennie Dumas approved $450,000 for the construction of a car park at the Nagar.
The PNM cabinet, of which Dr Rowley was a member, approved $500,000 on the recommendation of then minister of local government Mr Jarret Narine for the completion of the Siewdass Sadhu Temple in the Sea in Waterloo.

Dr Keith Rowley always attended Divali celebrations at the home of deceased Kumar Doon Pundit in Arima and at our home at Las Lomas. On November 10, Dr Rowley was our chief guest at Divali celebrations of our Shiva Joyti Temple in Las Lomas No 1. He was well received by the residents.
I can give the national community the assurance that over the years, the voice of my Hindu community is well received, appreciated and respected by the People's National Movement.
We the Ojah-Maharaj family are also fully conscious of our responsibilities to the peaceful and harmonious development of our nation.

Deodath Ojah-Maharaj
Former PNM executive and
member of the Maha Sabha

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/letters/ ... 58801.html

Hopefully this will end all debate...


As a member of the PNM you really expect her to say any different? She has to toe the line.

Pnm member or not, no one can dispute the facts in the article

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Re: THA Elections

Postby toyota2nr » February 3rd, 2013, 11:36 pm

rfari wrote:
toyota2nr wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:What you may not know is that are more that one groups of Hindu associations. SDMS is the largest hindu body the other groups are far smaller. There is even a PNM hindu group call SWAHA. Any hindus that you see in PNM belong to SWAHA.

PNM history of close ties with Hindus
Story Created: Nov 22, 2012 at 12:01 AM ECT
Story Updated: Nov 22, 2012 at 7:28 AM ECT

The confusion concerning Dr Keith Rowley attending the Divali Nagar celebrations, appropriately dressed for the occasion, is a national non-issue and purely political rhetoric that we in the People's National Movement (PNM) can adequately manage.
The PNM has always acknowledged the value of each section of our national community to nation-building. Over the 56 years of the PNM, our leaders have embraced the Hindu community and developed a good working relationship with the major Hindu and Muslim organisations.
Dr Eric Williams had a very good working relationship with a tower of a man, Mr Bhadase Sagan Maraj, whom he consulted before the Divali holiday was declared in 1964.
Former prime minister Patrick Manning met with the executive of the Maha Sabha in 1991 and maintained a very close relationship with the general secretary, Mr Satnarine Maharaj, during 1991-1995.

On instructions, the then minister of education collaborated very closely with Mr Maharaj and proceeded to renovate and maintain all primary schools of the Maha Sabha. We also saw the construction of the Lakshmi Girls' Hindu College.
Manning worked very closely with the Maha Sabha and Swaha organisations and even apologised to the Hindu community for any perceived misgivings done to them by the PNM. An executive member of Swaha, Pundit Manideo Persad, was also appointed our high commissioner to India from 2002-2010.

I am certain our Hindu community is then fully satisfied that the PNM is very facilitative of each and every ethnic and religious section of our beloved nation.
Dr Rowley and I attended Divali Nagar celebrations on more than two occasions. On one occasion, he addressed the audience. Mrs Joan Yuille-Williams, as then minister of culture, also attended the Nagar.
In 2006, former minister of local government Mr Rennie Dumas approved $450,000 for the construction of a car park at the Nagar.
The PNM cabinet, of which Dr Rowley was a member, approved $500,000 on the recommendation of then minister of local government Mr Jarret Narine for the completion of the Siewdass Sadhu Temple in the Sea in Waterloo.

Dr Keith Rowley always attended Divali celebrations at the home of deceased Kumar Doon Pundit in Arima and at our home at Las Lomas. On November 10, Dr Rowley was our chief guest at Divali celebrations of our Shiva Joyti Temple in Las Lomas No 1. He was well received by the residents.
I can give the national community the assurance that over the years, the voice of my Hindu community is well received, appreciated and respected by the People's National Movement.
We the Ojah-Maharaj family are also fully conscious of our responsibilities to the peaceful and harmonious development of our nation.

Deodath Ojah-Maharaj
Former PNM executive and
member of the Maha Sabha

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/letters/ ... 58801.html

Hopefully this will end all debate...


As a member of the PNM you really expect her to say any different? She has to toe the line.

Pnm member or not, no one can dispute the facts in the article


So you have evidence to prove the article correct ?

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Re: THA Elections

Postby rfari » February 3rd, 2013, 11:50 pm

toyota2nr wrote:
rfari wrote:
toyota2nr wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:What you may not know is that are more that one groups of Hindu associations. SDMS is the largest hindu body the other groups are far smaller. There is even a PNM hindu group call SWAHA. Any hindus that you see in PNM belong to SWAHA.

PNM history of close ties with Hindus
Story Created: Nov 22, 2012 at 12:01 AM ECT
Story Updated: Nov 22, 2012 at 7:28 AM ECT

The confusion concerning Dr Keith Rowley attending the Divali Nagar celebrations, appropriately dressed for the occasion, is a national non-issue and purely political rhetoric that we in the People's National Movement (PNM) can adequately manage.
The PNM has always acknowledged the value of each section of our national community to nation-building. Over the 56 years of the PNM, our leaders have embraced the Hindu community and developed a good working relationship with the major Hindu and Muslim organisations.
Dr Eric Williams had a very good working relationship with a tower of a man, Mr Bhadase Sagan Maraj, whom he consulted before the Divali holiday was declared in 1964.
Former prime minister Patrick Manning met with the executive of the Maha Sabha in 1991 and maintained a very close relationship with the general secretary, Mr Satnarine Maharaj, during 1991-1995.

On instructions, the then minister of education collaborated very closely with Mr Maharaj and proceeded to renovate and maintain all primary schools of the Maha Sabha. We also saw the construction of the Lakshmi Girls' Hindu College.
Manning worked very closely with the Maha Sabha and Swaha organisations and even apologised to the Hindu community for any perceived misgivings done to them by the PNM. An executive member of Swaha, Pundit Manideo Persad, was also appointed our high commissioner to India from 2002-2010.

I am certain our Hindu community is then fully satisfied that the PNM is very facilitative of each and every ethnic and religious section of our beloved nation.
Dr Rowley and I attended Divali Nagar celebrations on more than two occasions. On one occasion, he addressed the audience. Mrs Joan Yuille-Williams, as then minister of culture, also attended the Nagar.
In 2006, former minister of local government Mr Rennie Dumas approved $450,000 for the construction of a car park at the Nagar.
The PNM cabinet, of which Dr Rowley was a member, approved $500,000 on the recommendation of then minister of local government Mr Jarret Narine for the completion of the Siewdass Sadhu Temple in the Sea in Waterloo.

Dr Keith Rowley always attended Divali celebrations at the home of deceased Kumar Doon Pundit in Arima and at our home at Las Lomas. On November 10, Dr Rowley was our chief guest at Divali celebrations of our Shiva Joyti Temple in Las Lomas No 1. He was well received by the residents.
I can give the national community the assurance that over the years, the voice of my Hindu community is well received, appreciated and respected by the People's National Movement.
We the Ojah-Maharaj family are also fully conscious of our responsibilities to the peaceful and harmonious development of our nation.

Deodath Ojah-Maharaj
Former PNM executive and
member of the Maha Sabha

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/letters/ ... 58801.html

Hopefully this will end all debate...


As a member of the PNM you really expect her to say any different? She has to toe the line.

Pnm member or not, no one can dispute the facts in the article


So you have evidence to prove the article correct ?

Thats weak. The article was written and the only dissenting voice seems to be yours. As it stands its up to you to prove otherwise and be sure to submit the inaccuracies to the editor.

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Re: THA Elections

Postby Habit7 » February 4th, 2013, 8:14 am

toyota2nr you are yet to back up the heavy accusations you made in viewtopic.php?f=4&t=465621&p=6843560#p6843560, yet you are calling into question an account of a former executive member of the PNM and SDMS?

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Re: THA Elections

Postby Stephon. » February 4th, 2013, 8:18 am

I surprised this thread title stayed that way for so long, Tuner slipping. Thread should be "The Elections" not "Tha Elections" what kinda ghetto slang title is that?

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Re: THA Elections

Postby nemisis » February 4th, 2013, 8:42 am

^^^ kinda slow aren't ya

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Postby kurpal_v2 » February 4th, 2013, 1:39 pm

Stephon. wrote:I surprised this thread title stayed that way for so long, Tuner slipping. Thread should be "The Elections" not "Tha Elections" what kinda ghetto slang title is that?




:rofl:


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Re: THA Elections

Postby toybago » February 4th, 2013, 11:52 pm

Stephon. wrote:I surprised this thread title stayed that way for so long, Tuner slipping. Thread should be "The Elections" not "Tha Elections" what kinda ghetto slang title is that?


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Re: THA Elections

Postby toyota2nr » February 5th, 2013, 8:13 am

Habit7 wrote:toyota2nr you are yet to back up the heavy accusations you made in viewtopic.php?f=4&t=465621&p=6843560#p6843560, yet you are calling into question an account of a former executive member of the PNM and SDMS?


Exactly what accusations have I made? Every single one of the mentioned was in the public domain.

Are you saying because she was affiliated with the PNM she should not be questioned ?

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Re: THA Elections

Postby Habit7 » February 5th, 2013, 8:39 am

In that thread I refuted a number of your accusations and I asked you for newspaper articles to confirm the rest because to me they were not "mentioned was in the public domain."

Mr. Ojar-Maharaj doesn't need to back up his truth claims because he can both speak as PNM government official formulating policy and as a recipient SDMS official benefiting from said policy.

Again you need to back your accusations with verifiable information contrary to what you are refuting.

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Re: THA Elections

Postby 16 cycles » February 5th, 2013, 8:53 am

a party member writing to the papers in defense of their leader will always be scoffed by the opposing party....

everybody have to sing for their supper.....don't matter the party....just accept it and move on

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Re: THA Elections

Postby toyota2nr » February 5th, 2013, 1:07 pm

Habit7 wrote:In that thread I refuted a number of your accusations and I asked you for newspaper articles to confirm the rest because to me they were not "mentioned was in the public domain."

Mr. Ojar-Maharaj doesn't need to back up his truth claims because he can both speak as PNM government official formulating policy and as a recipient SDMS official benefiting from said policy.

Again you need to back your accusations with verifiable information contrary to what you are refuting.


Wait you're saying he doesnt need to back up his claims? So once you're PNM you are exempt? He hasn't proven anything. But since you're of the cult I expect you would believe anything.

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Re: THA Elections

Postby Habit7 » February 5th, 2013, 2:08 pm

^^^Ok Morgan Job, you win :roll:


I heard that, despite an overwhelming loss of the THA election under his leadership and the resounding defeat at the hand of a political neophyte in a seat he held for nearly 2 decades, Ashworth Jack today announced that he would remain as leader of the TOP :D

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Re: THA Elections

Postby fraggle » February 6th, 2013, 9:50 pm

Habit7 wrote:^^^Ok Morgan Job, you win :roll:


I heard that, despite an overwhelming loss of the THA election under his leadership and the resounding defeat at the hand of a political neophyte in a seat he held for nearly 2 decades, Ashworth Jack today announced that he would remain as leader of the TOP :D


Well his resignation was denied and he was voted by the chairman and the other executive members to remain as leader of the TOP. More importantly the TOP is choosing to remain under the PP. Mr A.Jack and his team are still trying to figure out what went wrong with his 2013 campaign. :roll:

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Re: THA Elections

Postby toyota2nr » February 7th, 2013, 10:43 pm

Habit7 wrote:^^^Ok Morgan Job, you win :roll:


I heard that, despite an overwhelming loss of the THA election under his leadership and the resounding defeat at the hand of a political neophyte in a seat he held for nearly 2 decades, Ashworth Jack today announced that he would remain as leader of the TOP :D


Interesting that you would mention Morgan Job, seeing that your party has also been against him for talking the truth.

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Re: THA Elections

Postby Habit7 » February 8th, 2013, 12:11 am

Life has been against Morgan Job, Phd in Economics yet relegated to haggling his books in the airport like a nutsman.

But I must say this 12-0 loss seems to have served the PM well. She is showing signs of turning a new leaf on bad governance and is actually working well. She choose a good president (even investigated the residence issue) and she actually strongly chastised Jack Warner on his usual wild comments.

Keep it up my PM and it might turn back your dropping approval ratings.

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Re: THA Elections

Postby toyota2nr » February 8th, 2013, 12:27 am

^^ utter nonsense. Dr. Job was victimized by the PNM for years for talking the truth. The cult just doesn't like to hear that. Thank goodness the population is maturing and the PNM race politics is being seen for what it is.

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Re: THA Elections

Postby toybago » February 8th, 2013, 2:58 am

it is amazing at how selective some are as to what is "the truth".....seems as though its only the truth when it is aligned with ones personal perspective(see how some posts here are either ignored or dismissed as "propaganda"). how can this be? if you only seek to push the "good" to the front and paint lies pretty, then aren't you also guilty of the same thing that you running around screaming about????

i guess constantly spewing hate and abusive language is the truth......these individuals tend to throw hissy fits when they get a taste of their own medicine(and cry victimization......lol). i actually used to listen to that individual known as morgan job, he actually sounded like he was onto something. then he started started donning his holier than thou gown. now he trying to sell he books to the same set of people he does cuss down....i lol'd...

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